Ever found yourself slumped into the all-too-comfortable couch of complacency, both at work and in your personal life? Our latest episode of Million Dollar Days is the wake-up call you didn't know you needed. We're peeling back the layers of comfort zones and confronting the cozy traps that prevent us from stepping up our game, whether it's the sedentary slide towards a 'dad bod' or the office's silent quitters. With stories that navigate through the holiday-induced revelations about physical fitness and discussions that challenge the norm in workplace culture, we promise this episode will have you reevaluating the cushy corners of your life.
Unlock the secrets to a fulfilling existence with us as we explore the art of delayed gratification and its crucial role in financial and personal triumph. Forget the quick-fix mentality—this episode is all about playing the long game, from the insightful Marshmallow Experiment to strategic credit card use that doesn't end in a debt spiral. We take you through personal anecdotes and lessons learned, showing that the real rewards come from patience and the willingness to embrace challenges, like fasting or tackling the day's most daunting task head-on.
And because life is about pushing boundaries, we don't shy away from the tough stuff. Dive into candid discussions about maintaining the spark in post-marriage relationships, the unexpected psychological perks of fasting, and the pitfalls of settling for the mediocre—whether in your health, career, or life's aspirations. This episode of Million Dollar Days is more than just talk; it's a call to action, daring you to break free from the humdrum and make every day count. So buckle up and prepare to be provoked, inspired, and maybe a little uncomfortable—but in the best way possible.
Ever found yourself slumped into the all-too-comfortable couch of complacency, both at work and in your personal life? Our latest episode of Million Dollar Days is the wake-up call you didn't know you needed. We're peeling back the layers of comfort zones and confronting the cozy traps that prevent us from stepping up our game, whether it's the sedentary slide towards a 'dad bod' or the office's silent quitters. With stories that navigate through the holiday-induced revelations about physical fitness and discussions that challenge the norm in workplace culture, we promise this episode will have you reevaluating the cushy corners of your life.
Unlock the secrets to a fulfilling existence with us as we explore the art of delayed gratification and its crucial role in financial and personal triumph. Forget the quick-fix mentality—this episode is all about playing the long game, from the insightful Marshmallow Experiment to strategic credit card use that doesn't end in a debt spiral. We take you through personal anecdotes and lessons learned, showing that the real rewards come from patience and the willingness to embrace challenges, like fasting or tackling the day's most daunting task head-on.
And because life is about pushing boundaries, we don't shy away from the tough stuff. Dive into candid discussions about maintaining the spark in post-marriage relationships, the unexpected psychological perks of fasting, and the pitfalls of settling for the mediocre—whether in your health, career, or life's aspirations. This episode of Million Dollar Days is more than just talk; it's a call to action, daring you to break free from the humdrum and make every day count. So buckle up and prepare to be provoked, inspired, and maybe a little uncomfortable—but in the best way possible.
People have become comfortable, too comfortable with being comfortable. It's too easy to be comfortable for us.
Robby:You're in a comfortable job and you know that, no matter what happens, you can be a pain. You know that, no matter what happens, like nothing's going to change for you, like that's it, you're going to get your wage at the end of the month. It's all good. You know what I mean. Company goes up, company goes down doesn't make a difference to you.
George:Everything's too easy for us, and I think people have leaned into that way too much.
Robby:When was the last time you made yourself uncomfortable on purpose?
George:The uncomfortable conversations is something you're going to have to get used to.
Robby:Someone who listened to this now and they're like, fuck, that might be me and maybe I am too comfortable. Yeah, what should that person do?
George:Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Million Dollar Days podcast. I hope you are having a million dollar day and if you're not, you will straight after this by the end of this. That's the plan. That's the plan.
Robby:That's the plan. That would be one hour. One hour and we turn your day from a horrible, miserable day to a million dollar day.
George:It can change that quickly, though.
Robby:Like Melbourne weather yeah.
George:You know your, your how you're feeling is all in your head.
Robby:Hey, I heard this thing. Actually, I just put it on my Instagram, I couldn't tell you how long ago, but it's the way you look, is how you feel.
George:Yeah right, yeah Cause.
Robby:I was talking to someone about some people and I was like why are they all fat? And then he said the way you look is how you feel. And I just looked at him like that's a good point. And then you think these people don't have everything they want in life. It's all given up on it. Yeah, nice. I see what you did there.
George:We're starting to know each other. We're finishing each other's sandwiches, sandwiches.
Robby:Yeah, that's good, that's a good one. I actually still that one from you, thanks. But yeah, people get, people get, do we? We haven't even asked yet. No, people get too comfortable too quickly. I guess, is where we're going with this, yeah.
George:And that's the topic that we want to cover for today. And to jump right into this topic for today no fucking around, no fucking around. I became aware of this just recently, and as recently as, say, three weeks ago, I was on holidays in Nusa. You're going to stop giving timeframes.
Robby:What if we post this in nine months? Who?
Both:cares who cares, they'll figure it out. We go fuck. This guy goes to Nusa regularly. They'll see it. It goes on holidays all the time.
Robby:So where were you.
George:So I was in Nusa on a family holiday over the Christmas period to be specific and it's something we tend to do annually. However, this was the very first time that I picked up on this, and I think it was only because I've started to make significant changes to how I no to my health and fitness. So we're at the pool sitting around and I was people watching as the kids, as the kids are playing in the pool, and my wife was sitting there having having a couple of drinks while the pool and doing what she's doing. I started to people watch and I was really fascinated that I actually picked this up, because I'm I'm you could probably say I'm a little bit oblivious to what goes on around me as far as people, because I don't just think care enough. You've never people watched before.
George:No, no, I haven't, not really, not really, but this time I was looking and I was actually looking at the blokes that were all there. So I would say that this resort that we stayed at, our ACV resort in Nusa, and it's a nicer type of a resort. So I would say most people that are at this place would have a somewhat professional job, because it's not exactly cheap. It's not ridiculously expensive, but it's not cheap. If you're going to stay there for a week, you're going to be spending thousands, probably six figures.
George:Yeah, let's just say probably a good way to look at it.
George:So most of these people, I reckon at this resort were six figure people and, having speak spoken to a few of them because a lot were from Melbourne as well, speaking to a few of them they're all professionals in what they were doing and had some pretty good jobs. But the one thing I noticed all right, let's just say there was a hundred guys there. There was five blokes that were in really good shape, and when I say good shape, I mean probably 12 to 14% body fat. All right. So you some somewhere ripped, some had proper six packs, others you go okay, you're in shape, like you're slim, you're slim but also muscular, yeah, all right. So I'd say there's probably only five out of a hundred. Every other person there was fat, was overweight, like not to call an asus spades an asus spades they were overweight and there were a lot of people there that were unhealthy. So there were some people that were just okay, you're out of shape. Then there's other people that, okay, mate, you're pushing heart attack territory. And it was funny.
George:I was speaking to my trainer about this as well. My PT and I said this exact same thing to him. I was blown away. When I actually started to take notice of it. It was like day two. I'm like fuck, everyone's fat here, everyone is overweight. And he goes. My PT said to me goes.
George:Yeah, the next thing that you'll start to notice is you'll start to notice what people eat, because you're watching, what you're reading and you're making conscious decisions not to go out and have cake and ice cream and all that sort of stuff. And you'll start to notice what everyone else is eating. And I said to him I go 100%. I actually did that at the resort as well, because we had buffet breakfast in the morning and I remember seeing kids. They were loading up and these kids weren't they were overweight, probably I don't know nine to 13, whatever it might have been overweight kids piling their plate with donuts, cocoa pops, croissants, like things that were desserts but that were available in the buffet table, but they were putting it on their plate. Now, that obviously comes from somewhere. The parents are obviously. You look at the parents and they're probably much the same as what they're doing as well and what they're eating.
Robby:Yeah, 100%.
George:Now it got me thinking as well, and why I wanted to have this discussion with you today, which you also reminded me about. It was people have become comfortable, too comfortable with being comfortable. It's too easy to be comfortable for us. We don't have to go out and hunt for our food. We don't have to go out and walk for kilometers to pick up water or whatever it might be. We're too comfortable. Everything's too easy for us, and I think people have leaned into that way too much.
Robby:Why.
George:I reckon it's society pressures, I reckon it's laziness, I reckon it's just. It's a survival thing as well, like from let's go real caveman. They're conserving as little energy as possible because they need to survive and I think that's built into us because it's hard. This to be uncomfortable is a difficult thing. You have to physically or mentally and physically put yourself in an uncomfortable situation, but that's where growth is in all areas.
Robby:I put up a post the other day and I wrote first summer I had a coach was 2016, 17, 17, something like that and I hired my first coach and in our first session together like first session so this was a he was hadn't even hired him at this point. He was like come, we'll have a chat and if you like it, we'll continue. And I'm like, okay, cool, sorry, coach for what?
Robby:I was working real estate. So I went and I saw him and we had a chat and he said to me when was the last time you made yourself uncomfortable on purpose? And I just looked at him thinking what Like? What a weird thing to say. I swear to God. When he said that I was thinking, yeah, like I'll just see the session now. Generally, I thought what a weird guy. Why would I make myself uncomfortable on purpose? Like, life is all about doing the things you like and getting comfortable, right?
George:And things that are easy, yeah.
Robby:Why would you go do the hard thing Like you made no sense to me at the time. And yeah, and he's actually the reason why I have a cold chair every day now. Yeah, cause he's liked me. When have you ever had a cold chair?
George:And I was like why the fuck would I do that?
Robby:That is bizarre. Why would I do that? Makes no sense. My hot water is fine, yeah. And then he actually obviously got through to me and I ended up working with him for about 18 months. I think he's still in contact with him today.
George:And official Good day yeah.
Robby:He was great. He's really really good coach and he taught me a lot of stuff. I had some moments with him where he was like like blew me away.
George:I was just like well, like that's what you want from a coach. Yeah.
Robby:That's what you want. You want him to show you something, pick up on the patterns that you're doing. You know what I mean. And he, I can remember one specific moment where he stopped and he's like A and he drilled me, yeah, and I remember leaving thinking fuck this guy, man I'm painting, he's talking to me like that and yeah, he blew me away. But he was the first person to bring that whole notion of you. Know when was the last time you purposefully made yourself uncomfortable? But so why do we do it? Why does everyone do it?
Robby:What's the you're going to just a survival thing, like in the sense of they don't. Why don't people put themselves in uncomfortable positions, you know? Why do they just keep? Why do we lean into what's easy? Why is it easier to have the cake than it is to not have dessert? Why is it easier to eat the meal that you're, you feel like like the fatty meal? Why is it easier to have the burger than the salad? Why is it? You know what I mean? Cause you never sit there like burger, should I? You know, you're always like you. You dive straight in. Why? Why do we do that?
George:I think it's. It comes down to how readily available everything is for us.
Robby:But the salad is just as available.
George:Yeah Well, it doesn't taste as good, so it's not as pleasing for us. So again, not as pleasing, not as easy. I have to stomach that salad and I'm not going to get that initial satisfaction of having the burger, the chips, the cake, the coke.
Robby:But don't you think you feel better when you have the salad Initially?
George:oh sorry. Yes, yeah, in the long term, absolutely, absolutely. And you can don't look, salads don't have to taste bad Like I've had some pretty amazing salads, but I think again, people prefer that sugary, fatty taste. It tastes better for us, it tastes better to us than what it would the actual food. It's the healthier option.
Robby:It's a short term pleasure.
George:Absolutely, it is the not willing to withstand the pain of today.
Robby:Longer term gratification.
George:Yeah, yeah, and that's something even like delayed gratification is massive. That's the delay gratification. It's huge. And I was having this chat with with my wife the other day and she's like, oh, why don't you go get those shoes? I was going to buy some new shoes or something. She's like I'll just get them, I can afford it. I'm like, no, that's all right, I want to do this before I get that and I'll reward myself with that. I was saying I was going to do an event and I said, when we, when we do the event, we have a good event. I'll reward myself and go out and get it. I don't need to get it right now. Could have very easily done it. Yeah, they weren't, they weren't going to break the bank of these shoes. I said, no, I'll wait. And it's also I want to teach my children that as well.
George:Having that delayed gratification, you're not going to get everything you want today. I'm not going to go to the gym tonight and then tomorrow I'm going to have a six pack. I have to work for it. It's got to be hard. It needs to be challenging, it needs to be worth it. In order for these to have these things that you want, you need to be willing to work for it, because if it was easy, everyone would do it, and it's evident where it's. When things are easy, like we're saying with the white, it's easy to be fair.
Both:It is so easy to be fat. It's easy to be lazy.
George:It's so easy to sit home, play PlayStation all day, watch TV, eat junk food, not exercise, not communicate with people. Sit in your own cocoon, do your own thing. Now you're going to get that comfort today, but later on in life you're going to pay for it. That's what people it's in everything, and it's not until I really started to deep dive into this and not just from health perspective, but also from business, from life, from everything. Not until you invest and put in the hard yards that things become better in the future.
Robby:Have you heard the Marshmallow Test?
George:Yes, I have.
Robby:Yeah, about the. Tell the viewers for those who haven't heard it before Do you know it well.
George:I know it well enough. Yeah, so it's the concept of the. I can't remember. It was some psychologists quite a long time ago they put a marshmallow in front of a child a five-year-old, let's say and say they look, they just put it in there and say, hey, how are you? And they look, this kid's looking at the marshmallow and they're going oh, you know, oh, do you like that marshmallow? And I was like, yeah, I really do. Would you like it? She goes yes, okay, look, I just need to go inside and make a quick phone call. You can have this marshmallow now. Or if you wait for me to get back, I will bring you another marshmallow and you'll have two. What do you want to do?
George:And initially all the children, most of the children were like oh no, I'll wait, I'll have that other marshmallow. Some said, no, I'll take that one now. But most of them said we'll wait for the second marshmallow. So they go away for about five, six minutes. Now each of these kids are looking at the marshmallow, they're touching it, they're smelling it, some lick it. Whatever they're doing, they're just, they're infatuated by this marshmallow.
George:80% of those kids ate the marshmallow. Before the psychologist came back, 80% of them. There was only 20% of the children that waited that extra time to get the second marshmallow and when she came back she had a second marshmallow. She goes here you go, you can have two now. And they followed this study on as well to look at how that affected that individual child as they grew up as well, and they found that the 20% that waited for the marshmallow the second one ended up going on and having really successful lives, really successful careers, because they were able to have that delayed gratification in there. And it was on social media for a little while I think it was a couple of years ago where people were doing that to their kids to see if they would wait or not. I don't mean to do it, but I never actually got around to it out of curiosity, but I reckon my kids would do it. I reckon they would wait that late. I think so. Yeah, I think so, maybe more my daughter might be?
Robby:Would they wait because you tell them Potentially yeah?
George:it could be that, too, that might influence it as well. 100%, yeah, that might influence it too. But it's definitely interesting. But you look at it as well with adults and what you want now, like, how easy is it to go and put a brand new pair of shoes on a credit card? How much credit card debt is there in this country? It's huge. There's no delayed gratification. They're like oh no, it's not your money, as in saving up first.
George:Yeah, Like when do you ever hear about lay-by? Have you ever heard about people putting something on lay-by anymore?
Robby:Afterpay. Shut that down.
George:Afterpay yeah, that's right Afterpay.
Robby:We'll give you the product first. Sorry, we'll give you the product first.
Both:Yeah, brilliant.
Robby:Brilliant concept.
George:Yeah, great concept Again you could say, oh, the cash flow they're helping you with that. It's still. Most people are spending money they don't have. When it comes to that sort of stuff whether it's afterpay, whether it's your credit card they can't wait to save up $10,000 to go and buy that necklace. They'll go into debt now and pay 23% interest or 25% interest.
Robby:Yeah, okay, but hold on, hold on. So do you think that's a bad thing?
George:In what regard?
Robby:Just in general. Do you think that is not good that they do that?
George:Yeah, most of the time it depends on well it's in to use the credit card to buy something or to get a loan to get a car.
George:No, no, it depends it depends what your if it's detrimental to you. Like most people are getting loans for cars, or my car is the least, but that's because I've offset them against the business. But that's different, I think. When you're using your card to go and just reward yourself and buy things because you can, because the card allows you to, I think you're in trouble. Then, especially when you get to the end of that month and you don't pay the card off and the interest just accumulates. And that's what's happening with a lot of people. They've got credit card debt that just keeps piling on, piling on.
George:And when I was a kid well, not always I was in my early 20s I had a credit card and it was the worst thing I ever had. I love credit cards. Now I reckon credit cards are cheat code and this isn't financial advice for anyone listening or watching. But when I had that credit card initially I didn't understand how to manage my money and every month because I had a rental sorry, I had an apartment that I owned and I'd put all the body core fees on there I'd put all this sort of stuff on there and every month I would be getting charged $3, $4, $500 in interest and it's like I'd put some money on the card but the card was never going down because I was just paying off interest.
Robby:That was ridiculous rates. Yeah, paying the bank.
George:Yeah, it was cheaper for me just to go and get a personal loan, pay for those things at 2% 3%, as opposed to paying 25% on the card each time. So I didn't understand that concept. Yeah, but you've got to learn to.
Robby:Yeah, exactly that was the price you paid for the lesson.
George:Yeah, now I leverage my credit cards in the business all the time. We put hundreds of thousands of dollars on the credit cards every month because we use that cash flow. We get the benefits with points and rewards and all these other things with it. So, but in the same token, I won't go out now and go. Okay, perfect example. Okay, I am selling my car and when I sell it I could afford to go and buy which car? The disco, the Land Rover?
Robby:What do you call it disco? Oh, discovery. Okay, that makes sense. I was like disco, it's the lingo, it's the lingo, no man.
George:Not a land rover. We can have a discussion again Not yet.
Both:Not yet.
George:So, no worries, I'll go out there, finance it through the business tax deduction, no sweat, I'm not going to do that because you know what's cooler than driving a brand new Land Rover? Driving a fucking Ferrari, okay. So, delayed gratification, I can go out there and get that $200,000 car now. But I'm actually deciding. You know what. I'm going to restructure a few things, get a few different company use. I'm going to get a few work use for my employees. I'm going to take back one of my work use that I've got and we drive that around for a little while. And next year, when the position changes, when I decide, yeah, maybe I'll go out and buy that newer car, or I'll buy another car, or I'll do whatever I decide to do. I don't know yet I might buy another U because I'm delaying the gratification. I don't need to go out and buy that $2300,000, $400,000 car there and I could do it.
Both:Yeah.
George:I can afford it. I'm in a position where I can afford to go out and buy a $300,000, $400,000 car. Is it the right thing to do right now? I don't think so. I don't think so, especially as I can structure things differently to be advantageous to me in business.
Robby:Okay. So is that a comfort thing, though? Or is that just being smart with your money? Do you know what I mean? Because the two, yeah, is it. Are you relating it to short-term gratification?
George:No, no, I don't think. Do you think someone that would? I think it is a level of comfort, yeah.
Robby:Yeah.
George:Yeah, because I'm not ready for that car, that Ferrari.
Both:You're sick.
George:Yeah, it'd be sick. But you know what I mean. I'm not ready for that now, even though I could get it. Yeah, I'm not ready for it. Why, why?
Both:Because financially it's the best you feel like you have.
George:No, no, no, no. Not from a deserving point of view. I deserve a fuck in the world. Not from that point of view. I'm saying from the perspective of there's other things I need to do. First, because we're talking about million-dollar days, that's going to hinder a million-dollar days for me, because the money I'm using for that vehicle perhaps it means I spend less on ads now, because, oh shit, maybe I shouldn't spend 10 grand on ads this month. Yeah, because I've got to spend four grand on my car. I better knock that back a bit. Oh, robbie, just make it work, make your magic happen and do it for four grand. This month.
Robby:Did you like my post about advertising? Yes, Stopping advertising stopping your watch.
George:Yeah, that was good. That was a good one too. Well, I've commented on one of them today. Did you say that one? That's right you go. Most people are asleep.
Robby:Yeah.
George:I said don't wake them up.
Robby:Oh, did you? I haven't seen that. I just thought, don't wake them up, let them fucking sleep, but that comes exactly into what was going to happen.
Both:They're sleeping at the wheel. Eglities.
George:Thanks, man, thanks, but they're sleeping at the wheel, oh, 100% two, can I just tell you guys, if you're listening to this right now, which I know, there's so many, there's so many people listening to this, thousands of relatives. My mum's downloaded this 15,000 times and just that's how we get the views up. Biggest fan.
Robby:I was like I want that shit, but I got a great story.
Both:Don't say it because I'm going to. Oh yeah, what was I saying?
Robby:Shit, people were being asleep.
George:They're asleep at the wheel. Oh, yes, I know I was going with that. One of the things that you can do to achieve the things that you want to achieve these days is just simply being consistent. Be consistent and disciplined and you will just work a little bit harder than everyone else. It's not fucking hard. People are not working. Ah, people are not doing anything.
Robby:People are not working.
Both:It's so easy. It's so easy not to work these days.
George:But have you heard the concept? Fuck this shit's me. Have you ever heard the concept silently quitting?
Robby:Yes, like when they've quit, mentally yeah, is that what?
George:you're talking about. Well, yes, yes, so they're silently quitting, they're working to the level of their pay. I think it's something along those lines.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, so like they would have been working to this to like 100% initially when they started, and now they've already mentally resigned from this role. They might be there for another three years, but they're now working at 75%.
George:Yeah, they look at it and they go well, I'm not getting paid extra to be here five minutes extra, so I'm gonna leave first of all, like that's just one thing, or I'm not getting paid to reload the copier. Yeah, that's someone else's job.
Robby:Yeah, that's bad culture, it in my opinion.
George:Yeah, that's definitely that too. For sure, that's a horrible culture. For sure, that would definitely come there as well. But there would be people that have that level of entitlement where they're like no, I'm not doing that, why should I do more? Why should I do more when really, by doing a little bit more, by doing those extra things, it can actually benefit you more than anyone else in the business?
Robby:or in life. I don't think that's a. Do you relate that to pay?
George:I relate that to success.
Robby:I relate that to culture, massively, massively culture, cause I am not, I do stuff and I've worked in workplaces where I'm like fuck this, like no one's loading the paper, I'm not loading the paper, like you know, what I mean. You're all gonna be dickheads. That's funny.
George:That's why I've never felt like that.
Robby:That's fun screw you all Like yeah, you've never worked in a really bad Probably not Dude, trust me, like I've done it before or you'll see, like you do everything right at the start and then you'll notice that no one else does it. And then you're like and then you eventually get so fed up that you like I remember did I used to work somewhere and I remember the printer and out of paper and then one of the like the proper thing to do is go get a new binder of paper or whatever they're called, and load it up.
George:You obviously don't print much, do you?
Robby:Me yeah.
Both:No, I'm a digital guy.
Robby:Why? What's it called? Is it called a binder?
George:Why would it? I don't know.
Robby:What's it called the paper thing, a ream, ream. That's the one Good stuff. Hold on, thanks, I got a paper diary.
George:You get a new yeah.
Both:We'll touch on that later. We'll touch on that later.
Robby:We'll touch on that later. Yeah, and the proper thing is to go get a ream of paper or whatever and load it up right. And then I saw another guy and he was printing something and it said the tray's out of paper. And he just opened a different tray and took like a bunch out of there and put it in his up one. And I'm like, dude, that doesn't fix the problem, Like you know what I mean. It just passes it onto someone else. Yeah, you're just, you are making it go away. You're taking medicine, You're numbing the pain. It's a band aid. Yeah, it's a band aid.
Robby:Like, fucking, fix it, Don't be lazy. You know what I mean. But when you see that constant dude and you're around it for a long period of time, osmosis is real. Yeah, and then you start, you become the same. Why should I care If no one cares? Why should I care? Like, if no one here cares and I can care so much and nothing will happen. It won't make a difference because my care will just get dispersed among everyone else and it will just. It's almost like watering it down.
George:Yeah, 100%. I can definitely see how that's the case in the bad culture, because it would stem from the top. The boss would probably do this exact same fucking thing, potentially. Yeah, I'm just saying that's what I'm like. That makes sense to me.
Robby:Yeah, and then that's when, silently, queens.
George:What I've seen yeah, potentially, but what I've seen in my experience, though, is I've always gone above and beyond. I've just made it my business not to be fucking lazy Like do it, I can do this, why am I gonna wait for someone else to do it? This happened to me years ago. I think I've told this story about the truck driving a truck, I'm sure so. I used to work building fences when I was in uni and like timber piling fences and houses and stuff like that, and it was a family friend I was working for, and one day he got me to.
George:I was probably, I reckon, 19,. I was in second year, first year of uni, or tape, whatever it was. So I was 19 years old. I yeah, I'd been driving for a year, or whatever it was. I was a confident driver because I was young and I thought I was the best driver on the planet. But he had a truck, like a truck that's big enough to drive on your, the biggest truck you can drive on a normal license. That's what he had, and it was manual as well. I could drive manual, no worries, but he's guy that was working for him quit and he calls me up and goes hey, you need to drive the truck, it's on you.
George:I said, oh, I can't do that. I was fucking shitting myself. I was actually genuinely scared, like not scared, I was like I can't do that, I can't, I'm not gonna drive it. I was trying to make excuses. I even got my. I was saying to my dad I look, I don't want to drive. Can you call him and say he's not driving it? Or that's like I was full on.
George:I was actually real nervous to do it. Anyway, he pulls me aside and says listen, he goes jumping the car, we'll go for a drive together. He goes, it's not fucking hard, he goes. If that dumb shit who just left me the guys, that is an oxygen thief. If he can fucking drive it, you're 10 times the man, 10 times the ability. You can drive it. Don't let this barrier get in your way. You can do it. You can do anything you want, like, if he can do it, you can do it. There is no difference between the two of you.
George:Go, I got in the car, drove it. Fuck, it was fine, it was easy, it was. I made it worse in my head. You got in your own way. I did, I got in my own way. Where were we going with that, sorry? Oh so that's where I saw like a real change in myself after that moment was I'm gonna, I can do anything. I'm not gonna wait for someone else to do it for me. I'm gonna do it, regardless of what they feel, think, believe. I'm gonna do it like this. This is how I'm gonna be, and honestly, ever since that day, because building fences is a shit job, shout out to all my fences out there. Yeah, shit, it is a hard job, like your manual handling associated with that is massive.
Robby:Would it be worse?
George:than bricklay? Yeah, I reckon. But what? Yeah, I reckon.
Robby:Really, it's definitely up there, come on man, you can think about it.
George:You gotta pull down the old fence yeah, all right. So you pull it down. Then you gotta pick it up. You gotta put it on a truck. Sometimes you have to take the truck to the tip, unload all the stuff all right, drive back. So that's that. So you gotta pick up that existing fence two, three times. Then you get the new timber. You either have to load it onto the truck or you get it delivered to the job. But then you have to pick up a post. You gotta put it in the hole. You gotta dig the holes. Put the Dig the holes yeah, it's fucked. The worst thing, especially in bad soil You're not Bayside it's digging holes is the worst. Yeah, so you put the post in. Then you gotta level the post. You gotta pick it up again. Level it, get everything in. You gotta pick up a rail, pick up the plinth, pick up piling. So you're picking up every piece of timber.
Both:That's the plinth.
George:A plinth is like that bottom piece of timber that all the piling sit on.
Robby:Oh, okay.
George:So you've gotta pick up every piece of timber two, three, four times. So if you add that up at the end of the day you're picking up tons of material. So it's really, really tiring job. And especially when you get a hard job it's like it's not fun, shit access and everything's bad. But anyway, I always made it my point to always not be lazy and to do things Like just to get it done, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it. So I would always be the type, I reckon, that would load that copy machine. But back onto your topic. If the culture was that bad, I probably just would have left.
George:So if I was doing something, my growth wouldn't be there.
Robby:Yeah, if you and I did leave. But if you are doing it on your own, you'll generally have a different like. Even if the workplace is shit or the workers shit, you'll still do what you gotta do.
George:Yeah, and I think. I'd get satisfaction out of that for myself.
Robby:Yeah, and that's what I was like with real estate, because you really say you don't spend time in the office. Do you know what I mean? Like you are in the office every now and again, but you're not there most of the time.
George:So a lot of the time you're on your own. I would have thought you'd be in the office more, nah, I will say Dude, you should be. Making deals.
Robby:Yeah, you're doing appointments, you're doing opens, you're doing like you might spend the morning in the office. Come in early, get emails done, punch out calls, get out, go business meetings, like you know.
Robby:Yeah, meet up clients, Take people's rooms yeah, you know, doing vendor meetings and things like that. So there was a bit different, because you could be in a shitty culture place and you could just you could avoid it for most of the day, whereas with when you're working like a nine to five, where you have to be there for eight hours and it's a shitty workplace and everyone's like, ah, fuck this, fuck that and fuck this place, and nah, nah, nah, nah. You know what I mean? They always yeah, dude, it's horrible.
George:It is horrible. Yeah, I can't say I've ever been in that environment.
Robby:Yeah, oh man, that's quite an experience, horrible experience, but it's good to experience.
Both:Yeah, I can see it.
Robby:Because then you know like you can see when things are going sour in your own business, and then you can be like whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't, like, don't do that, because I've experienced that and that's not nice to be on the other side of.
George:There could be opportunity, though, even in that business. So say you are the, the shining light in that business.
Robby:It's usually a very big business as well. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
George:But say if you're a shining light in that space, you're generally. If they've still got, say, the culture ship. But you've got good managers or you've got good directors, a shining light's gonna shine Like they're gonna see that too.
Robby:Yes, yes, what happens in those businesses, the if you might have, like you know, a direct manager, might be okay, but the person above him who's calling the shots is a dud. Do you know what I mean? So, even though you might have a good direct manager that you can report to and they're okay and you're okay the reality is, when you look at everything, most people are there sticking around because of comfort.
George:That's right. They get there. They clock in nine, they clock out at five.
Robby:They are so used to being. I used to work at Mercedes-Benz in Doncaster, dude. I went there when I got back from Europe. Just recently, like last year, yeah, yeah, I went back just to because I was going to drop something off. Yeah, I was dropping lunch after someone there and I walked in.
George:Is that Uber, part-time, uber Eats?
Robby:Yeah, I work in Uber, if you ever see me, seller and I walked in and I walked into where I used to work and there was some of the same people sitting there doing the exact same shit.
Both:You reckon I hated it Deep down.
Robby:Yeah, 100%, 100%, dude.
Both:So that's it. I'm on a fascinating.
Robby:There was a lady that's been there. Shout out to Vicky.
George:Hey Vicky.
Robby:She like if you she tried, she would never try and convince anyone that she liked her job. Like she hated it. Yeah, like it was clear as day, clear as day.
Both:Tell her boss when he walks in.
Robby:Hey having a good day.
Both:He knows Fuck what happened the day he knows. Are you serious? Can I get? Me a coffee.
Robby:Dude. I've just seen situations but like why haven't you leave it's comfort? She'd been with the company for 35, 40 years, you know what I mean. And it's like she doesn't know anything else. It's that this is all I know, and everything, everything, everything that I don't know is scary.
George:That's right. Uncomfortable.
Robby:Yeah, yeah. You know one of my favorite things Gary Vee has ever said. He tells this story about how people are living their lives. He's talking about awareness and he says how he goes.
Robby:You know when you're driving and you're fucking around on your phone and you're not paying attention to the road, like, but you're driving and you're fucking around on your phone, you don't know how fast you're going, you don't know anything and you're doing shit. You shouldn't be doing that. If you pay attention, you'll know you shouldn't be doing it. And you do that and then, all of a sudden, blue and red lights and what happens? You shit yourself right, oh, I'm done here. And then they go around you and then you're like, oh, like that big relief. And then you fucking sit up and you're like like two hands on the wheel you know what I mean, pay attention, what's the speed limit?
Robby:And then five Ks down the road you're back to doing the same shit again, and that's how everyone's living their lives. You know, we're all fucking around, not paying attention, no one knows what's going on. And then someone gets a health scare and then you stop for a bit and then you're like oh my god, okay, what really matters? Okay, no, we should be eating like this. We need to look after this. I'm over, and yeah, and you go and you do it for six months and then you fall back into your old patterns and you go back to doing the same shit again.
George:Yeah, and I was listening to a podcast along those lines as well still currently halfway through it and they're saying okay, so you're talking about health and fitness, for example. I'm going back to that and it's like well, what's your goal? And I want to have a six pack by summer. Cool, so you work hard, you don't eat, right, you do everything, because the funny thing is, when you achieve that six pack, you don't turn around and go, oh, I'm happy now. I'm happy now, this is great, I've got a six pack.
Both:Of course, so happy yeah that's it, I'm happy.
George:And it's like what most people that really get the most out of that is, they enjoy the process of getting the six pack. They go look at this, look at my journey, look at how I've done this from here to here. And the other thing he was saying as well is it's not the goal of the six pack. That is really the meaningful part of that. It's the healthy lifestyle that you're going to live from this point on. That's what's going to maintain that. Because what happens? A lot of people get that six pack. They have it for summer. Then they go back to eating chocolate and cakes and ice cream and junk food and ice and stuff and went to their shit again and they go oh I better get back into the gym so I can have the six pack for summer, whereas if you just have a maintain a healthy lifestyle and eat properly and exercise all the time, it becomes a way of life.
George:That's it, it becomes a way of life. It's your habit, and that's what really becomes the rewarding thing about it and that's what makes you fulfilled and makes you happy. And yeah, it's. Have you read that book? Eat the Frog? Yeah, I haven't. And Brian Tracy? Yeah, I haven't read it yet, but I'll tell you on my list. Yeah, he's good.
Robby:Yeah, so it's a small book. It's just about procrastination. Yeah, do the do the ugly thing or the big thing first. That's it, yeah. I mean eat the frog.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:Because if you had to do 50 things and one of them was eat a frog, leaving that your last is not going to make it any better.
George:Yeah, I heard something cool about that as well. It's like when you say you're getting into a ice bath.
Both:Yeah, just looking at it doesn't get. The longer you look at it doesn't get warmer. Doesn't get any warmer, it's still cold.
Robby:Yeah, it's just like just to, and that's one thing, dude, even ice baths like I don't wait now, like just jump, jump straight in, just get it, like you know the worst ones.
George:You don't let your mind. You don't let your mind. When you say go, it means go.
Robby:Yeah, when I say yes, you can't say no. Shout out to Andy Robbins yeah, the big dog, it's getting on. Yeah, dude's like two meters tall when people through that door.
Both:Oh my God.
Robby:But yeah, man, I, when I was working at Mercedes Benz in South Melbourne, I went out for lunch with my cousin and his boss. They were both in real estate. His boss was a director of a real estate agency. And we're sitting on Ligon street, yeah, and we're having lunch and he turns to me and he's like come work for us. And I'm like no chance, like dude, I was comfortable. I was so comfortable, yeah, company car, good money, been working at this place for five plus years at the time Nearly a long service leave coming around the corner.
Robby:I do Like I just I was. I was at the point where I was kind of convincing myself that this is probably the next 30 years, like this is why would I leave Mercedes Benz? I was working at the biggest what was the biggest Mercedes Benz in the Southern Hemisphere. At the time I was like why would I leave here? Like I'll just end up running this place, yeah.
George:Like. You know what I mean. Have an AMG one day, like you know.
Robby:So no brainer, like meeting high end clients. Yeah, I've got a really good job and I'll just stick to it. And then he said, yeah, comforts a killer. And I said what do you mean? And he's like comforts a killer. And I said, well, what do you mean? I didn't get it.
Robby:And he's like you're in a comfortable job and you know that, no matter what happens, you're going to have hate. You know that, no matter what happens, like nothing's going to change for you, like that's it, you're going to get your wage at the end of the month. It's all good. You know what I mean. Company goes up, company goes down, it doesn't make a difference to you. And he goes, whereas at any point in my cousin he's like he doesn't sell any properties this month. He's not eating, he goes, he's got there's a level of hunger there. And at the time I didn't, I didn't know how much of an impact that statement was going to make on my life. But now I walk around telling people comforts a killer, comforts a killer. If I'm too comfortable with something, I stop it Anything. Dude, I quit coffee twice a year, every year. Yeah, it's like, cause I'm getting too comfortable with it. What do you mean?
George:It's an addiction, yeah, but it's really, I mean you know, I mean I have a coffee every day.
Robby:You're not a big coffee drinker, no, I am you. I am. How many coffees do you have a day? I feel like you could you go days without having coffee, never, never.
George:I'd have. I'd have coffee in the morning when I get to work.
Robby:Every single morning. Do you have a coffee on a Sunday?
George:Every single morning every single day, and I'd have when I'm at work okay, I'll have.
George:I cheat a little bit so I have the. I have the what's that you know? Blend 43, the Nescafe. Nescafe, I know it tastes like shit. Live a large I used to have. What happened was I was drinking lattes every day and just all the milk killed it. I used to put on. I put on weight because I was just having so much milk throughout the day and then I cut out the milk and I actually dropped a few. I dropped a couple kilos as a result of that, but it's horrible.
George:Yeah, yeah, so I I substituted my lattes for just the blend 43 with a bit of milk. So I have that most mornings, pretty much every morning, yeah, and then in the afternoon I'll always have a great coffee. Okay, during the day, like during work, I am. But I feel I feel like I could stop right now and be fine.
Robby:Yeah, but have you ever?
George:But I also feel like I could have a coffee and then go straight to bed. Oh yeah, you definitely tripping.
Robby:Oh, we've had this conversation.
George:I don't. I just don't feel like I could have a fish, get a whoop Get a whoop.
Robby:I've got three.
George:So no, no, do you like I could stop coffee, fine.
Robby:Yeah, I don't feel like. I never felt like a need. No, oh try. Holiday, so for example yeah, don't have a coffee for three days.
George:Oh man, I reckon headaches. I reckon I'll be fine, I drink a lot of water.
Robby:No, it's not a hydration thing. Most people get headaches. I, even now, like when I stop, I get headaches. I'm going to try it, but I stop to. It's kind of like a mind thing to like you know, like to challenge yourself.
George:It's like I'll do. I just enjoy it more. I just enjoy the taste. Yeah, that's what it is. More, I don't. I've never felt the need for a coffee ever.
Robby:Oh, so you know, you don't feel tired, and so do you give me a coffee?
George:Oh never.
Robby:What Never I've never gone.
George:I don't get tired of getting a coffee, you know what that says.
Robby:You're ridiculously addicted.
George:To coffee. Yeah, man, I guarantee I'm going to stop. I'm going to have a coffee. I'm going to have a coffee for the next three days All right and I message you on what's the day Today Tuesday, tuesday. I'm going to message you Thursday, tuesday, saturday. I'll message you on Friday, saturday, saturday.
Robby:So you can go Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
George:No coffee. You heard it here first no coffee.
Robby:All right. You're going to get a headache. You're going to get a headache. I mean, I do All the time.
Both:I'm not going to get a headache.
Robby:I hope you don't.
George:I hope I don't too, because I get migraines yeah.
Robby:It's an addiction thing, man, and it's like okay, cool. How do I now get myself out of that comfort zone? Like, what do I have to do? Do you know what I mean, dude? I fast Like, and I've just really recently started doing it properly again, like one. I haven't eaten today. Well, my first meal will be dinner, but even with that, I'll do like multiple days of no food, just because it's like pushes health any comfort zone. Do something that stretches you. Yeah, you know what I mean. I hate running. I hate it with a pat. There is nothing not. I cannot understand people to go for runs. Mad makes no sense to me.
George:How about riding a bike?
Robby:A little bit more fun A little bit more fun there.
George:You dress up in lycra, say you get dressed up in lycra.
Robby:I will like I mean yeah.
George:That's my job on the bike. Thank you, just don't have. She's not advice, just got like the lycra first.
Robby:Yeah, you don't do. Um, yeah, I don't know about the lycra, but I would. I would ride a bike. I just feel like that would be a little. You just get around quicker, Because when you're running there's nothing the like. It takes ages to get to it and you're just going.
George:I hate it, but I do it, not because I do you, yeah, you do you do it yeah.
Robby:But not because I want to do it, not because I like. Actually, you remember how we were talking about ice bars on first and second episode or whatever they actually released. This study was on a podcast. Did you see that podcast with David Goggins? I've seen it.
George:And it was recent.
Robby:No, I can't remember the guy's name who interviews him. He's like a neurologist kind of dude and he talks about how there's a certain part of your brain that grows when you put yourself through some level of suffering. I think I have heard of this before.
George:It's gone viral at the moment.
Robby:It's gone viral at the moment, and when you do something that is the thing, though you have to not want to do it. If you sit there culture I know it's going to be refreshing you don't get the game. Even if you do the physical thing, you don't get the game. The game comes from you doing what you don't want to do, like you're going for a run and your legs are killing and you go shin splints and you hate it and doing it anyway. But if you go for a run and you like it, you won't get the game. If you like the culture, I want you to do it. You won't get the game If you hate it and you're terrified and you do it, you get the game.
Robby:You know, same thing with the ice or whatever it is. It's about putting yourself through that some level of suffering and you get a level of gain Like there's actually there's your brain scans and they can see the difference in your brain from pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. So I think, like with the cutting the coffee out, cutting that out, it's for me, I find, just brings you back. Man, it's kind of like sent to you you don't eat for three days, but I need to eat. No, you don't. You don't do, you're just used to doing that Actually do it.
George:Yeah, do it fast, like, but like, not just like you're doing it for the per every day. I'm saying to him like a three, four day fast, something like that. Yeah, yeah, do it.
Robby:It's um.
George:I've just been seen a lot on of it because after what's his name? Dana White did it and then everyone's fucking doing it. It's day one of my seven day fast, or my six day fast, like everyone's fucking doing it. But in the same token, I'm also hearing a lot of the health benefits from experts as well, not just people going, oh, I've lost five kilos, I've done this, I look better, I do this. It's not about that. The other benefits is what really interests me, like even something saying like reduces your risk of a heart attack by 50% and just gets rid of some particular cancer by like 80% by doing it.
Robby:I think it's just your um. Your body resets dude. Do you know what I mean? Like you got to think your body needs time to process all this. You got to think your body needs time to process all this shit.
George:Yeah, you never give it a break.
Robby:You never give it a break. You constantly eating new stuff.
George:It's like hold your shit together. Think about it as a caveman, like they're not eating every day. After they'll eat for one day They'll probably eat really good and they're going to go out and hunt. They're going to go fish, they're going to go catch an animal, they're going to go get food or grow it or whatever it is. I only do it, because it's the only way I can control my calories.
George:Yeah, that's right and that's the only way I can say, oh, fasting is, I've lose all this weight. Fasting is doing is putting you in a calorie deficit.
Robby:Yeah, that's the only way I can eat under what I had. If I have lunch and dinner, I'll eat too much.
George:Well, the lunch, breakfast, lunch and dinner is a very westernized concept.
Robby:Yeah.
George:So I was saying that the Greeks actually did this, because Greeks fucking invented every.
Robby:Greeks invented everything.
George:It was very much that European diet where they would just they would work all day. They'd come home and eat at like two, have a really big meal, and that was it. Then they'd go have a siesta, they'd.
Robby:whatever they're going to do, I used to do that when I used to get home from school. I used to have my main meal as soon as you get home from school.
George:Yeah, I used to eat when I got home from school and have lunch and have breakfast. Yeah, yeah breakfast.
Robby:I could never eat breakfast. I used to have a morning tea or whatever Recess playtime.
George:But it's a very Westernized thing. And think about it. It was the what was it? What's it called the revolution age or some shit, where everyone was working in a factory?
Both:Oh, the industrial revolution. Yeah, that's right the industrial revolution.
George:They brought it in then because it's like okay, wake up in the morning, have breakfast so you have energy for the day, Then we'll have a lunch break so you can eat and have energy for the rest of the day. Then come home and your wife's gonna cook you dinner so you have a nice hearty meal before you go to sleep, and then wake up the next morning and go again. So the three meals a day is a Westernized thing and then everyone's been drilled into that and now we're all used to that. That's why we're hungry at breakfast, hungry at lunch, hungry at dinner. Do you eat breakfast At this time? No, no, I don't actually. I don't. Actually, just recently I've started because I want to. I'm not consuming enough protein, so I just started to eat three boiled eggs.
Robby:In the morning first meal.
George:Yeah, like it'll be 10 o'clock, yeah, something like that. But otherwise I would skip breakfast all together and not eat till lunch and then like one o'clock or something like that, yeah, and then have dinner. But now that I'm training I'm seeing the importance of having more protein, so that's why I'm trying to eat more protein, not so much because I want breakfast.
Robby:Do you use shakes?
George:Yeah.
Robby:Yeah, good.
George:But I'm trying to get it from whole foods more than shakes and shit like that. So, but yeah, very Westernized thing and if you think about it, our bodies were never really made to eat like that. Like, how many overweight people do you see in? So what was?
Robby:overweight dude.
George:No, no, I'm going deeper, port Malibu. So, like in the Amazon, like in the Amazons, those tribes, do you know what I mean? Yeah, none of them are overweight.
Robby:Yeah, but is that a good reference?
George:Probably from an extreme reference point. Like I'm saying, it's because of how they're lifestyle and how they are, they don't go to coals and just go. Hey, grab some kaka pops, grab some meats, grab some bananas.
Robby:If I was to play devil's advocate here, I think the insulin response would be because they don't have food there. Do you know what I?
George:mean Because they don't? No, they do. How do they not have food?
Robby:No, like as in the Amazon river, it's limited.
George:Yeah, maybe they just got to go to more effort for it. Yeah, I don't think it's limited. I reckon they'd be, eating every day. Yeah, they've got to go, they've got to hunt, they've got to hunt together. That's what they are effectively. We're not hunter-gatherers anymore.
Robby:There's still tribes like that, huh.
George:Yeah, a fucking oath man. That's insane, it's massive, like there's people that haven't even seen a white person before.
Robby:He'd freak Mm.
Both:They would, they'd freak, they'd be like touching them and what the hell is going on.
Robby:What's wrong with these guys? What's?
Both:wrong with these guys? Yeah, why do they just can't look like that?
George:Yeah, and I also was reading something as well. I can't remember where I saw it, but it's saying most of the highly successful people as well have come from a background of adversity too, so they've had to work hard to get out of that situation to then become the success that they are today. I've heard of a lot of and yeah, you look at a lot of the super wealthy or those types of people. They generally have to work. They're not a fucking yeah, not saying all of them. There could be some that are not like that, but still.
Robby:So do you see that, as you're creating your own suffering, Like pushing yourself? That is the adversity. Sorry, what I was trying to say is the people who went through adversity we're putting an uncomfortable position.
George:Absolutely they were. Yeah, because if they were comfortable and that's what you look at again still pick kids with silver or people that we've fed with a silver spoon Life's so easy They'd get everything at their feet Like the Lamborghini means nothing for them. It's a day, it's one of their 17 cars. And then they tend to lose a lot of purpose too, because they've got nothing to.
Robby:That drives them Do they Do, they Do they all. All. Does the media do such a great job of showing us that one person who did Did what, lose their purpose and they had everything? Does that? Do they do such a great job of glorifying that so much that people then turn around and say, see, money doesn't make you happy?
George:Yeah, absolutely there would be that.
Robby:Because how many people do you know that are in that position?
George:Me personally yeah.
Robby:Like really, or even not personally, but people that you know of, you know what I mean. Do you think about? Like people say oh, look at actors, they're off the rails. Most of them have a decent life. Some of them go off the rails, but some of everyone.
Both:Yeah, exactly.
Robby:You look in your straight. Yeah, look in your straight. There's probably you've only got a couple of people that are off the rails. Yeah, absolutely, and it's just the way they position it.
Both:Yeah, absolutely they would.
Robby:But people don't think about that next step.
George:Yeah but I mean Gary V says that too. He goes, he gets a lot of people like trust fund babies and all that sort of stuff messaging him saying I don't know what to do, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this, you know, I'm sick of this, I'm sick of that. And he just responds back like well, fucking change, like leave. He's saying, oh, my parents buy me everything. I've got no purpose. Fuck and move out, go live in Australia and go buy an apartment and get your job and make your life of yourself. You don't have to sit there and accept their money, accept their this, accept that. So it does ultimately come down to the individual. No matter your situation, whether it's a silver spoon, whether it's a difficult scenario, whether it's man, the other thing that could be a big killer is just you might be just middle of the range, medium, middle class, middle class trap.
Robby:Yeah, like it could be. That too, gc says, is it? Yeah, middle class trap is like, how good was it going to be when we get GC? On. Can't wait. Got my GC journal you love it. It's following along George delivered.
Both:I delivered this time.
George:Put it on camera, take a photo.
Robby:George delivered brand new In the packet, In the packet signed by Ben. Looking forward to this, that's it All right. So someone who listened to this now and they're like, fuck, that might be me. Man, Maybe I am too comfortable. Yeah, what should that?
George:person do. This is what I would do. A well, you got to identify. Am I that person? Awareness, yeah, have self-awareness. That's the very first thing. The second thing is you don't have to go out tomorrow and run 15Ks, read 43 books and do 2,000 sit-ups Before breakfast. That's it.
Both:You don't have to do that, but read a chapter. Start with that. Just read a chapter today, so just start.
George:Just start, man, just start. What is it that you're lacking in your life? Is it knowledge? Is it health? Is it fitness? What is it? Get up off your ass, go for a walk.
Robby:What if you are so comfortable in, like people get comfortable in different areas of their life? Yeah, that's the great point that you mean so people get comfortable in different areas, like people can get comfortable in a relationship.
George:Yeah, absolutely.
Robby:You know what I mean. And they don't do what they used to.
George:Huge trap. It's like saying you know the big trap for people to get married? They stop dating each other.
Robby:Yeah.
George:They stop dating each other. So well, why? It's like you go to all that effort to win that person's love and affection and show, hey, I'm a good partner. Then you get married and you're like, oh cool, we're fucking done.
Robby:That's it, yeah.
George:That's it. You court goal make money or whatever it's going to be, whatever the relationship dynamic is, it's comfort. You just assume that that person's going to be happy and you're going to be happy and everything's going to work together.
George:But no you've got to work on it Every single fucking moment of every day. It's not easy. That's probably one of the hardest things to be active on, and you know, it's like I've said this to my Mrs a while ago it's like you look at other people's relationship and like, do you want an extraordinary relationship? I'll ask you, what type of relationship do you want? Do you want one that's like it's an amazing relationship, or do you want it just to be? You know, like I love it.
Robby:No, no you, of course you want to me personally, I would want an amazing relationship.
George:I would say everyone, especially everyone that gets married, wants that. But why is it so many people buy into the shit and just go? Ah, that's like dad bod.
Both:That's it, I've got a dad bod now. Why do you buy into all the shit? Why do you?
Robby:make 100 grand and stop.
Both:Yeah, six figures, is that magic? That's 100 K. Yeah, like, why do you make 100 grand and stop?
Robby:And then they make 100 grand for the next 30 years and they think they won and you're like you didn't build on that year on year on year. Like why did you not stop Like? Why did you stop Like okay, get there, that's good, but keep going Like don't get comfortable, that's it. You know what I mean Be grateful, don't be complacent.
George:Yep, man, it can be with just anything, with any vice of yours, just for someone to take drugs, smoke marijuana every day. You put shit up your nose every day. Whatever, it is like you're getting comfortable with it. Is that really the best thing for you in serving your life?
Both:You got kids and you're still doing that. What the fuck's wrong with you? It's coffee every day. It's coffee every day.
Robby:I can't wait for you to Smokes I used to smoke.
George:I think you told me that. I think, yeah, that's full on.
Robby:It's just so I can stop. I've stopped everything that has ever I've felt like I'm too. I don't have an addictive personality.
George:Yeah, that's. Do you think that's a good?
Robby:thing, americans are good thing, yeah, yeah, I think it's a really good thing Because I can stop anything. I can like it's, I'm in control, hmm, you know. But so if you don't because here's the thing it's easier to say like, yeah, get up, go lose weight, change the way you eat. That's easy, like it's easy to say it, right, but what if you don't want to do the uncomfortable thing?
George:Then accept your situation, accept that you're going to be where you are.
Both:Fuckin' oath.
George:I'll put it on the gym. That's it. Don't bitch and moan and pull other people down.
Robby:Because they're not where you are, where you want to be.
George:Because that's what a lot of tall people, honestly, that's what tall poppy syndrome is. It's this person's achieving the shit that I've given up on. Yeah, fuck, you, come back down to us, where we're normal. Oh, you've changed, robbie.
Both:You've changed man? I hope so. Fuckin' oath, I hope so.
Robby:So if I want to change something and I now have the awareness that this is somewhere where I've sort of been complacent I fucking hate the word complacent. Somewhere I've been complacent in my life, I hate it. Yeah, so much I hate talking about it. Somewhere I've been complacent in my life and I now know I need to change and I know I need to do something, but doing something isn't really Big step you know for some people it's their health about support. For some people said relationship get support.
George:Support, like I started training.
Robby:What's the?
George:poor. I started, I wanted to try. I used to go to the gym all the time when I was early twenties and I was really good shape and I did it all by myself. Never got PT, never got anything. But now I realize I could have gone to the gym, done the same sort of shit, but realistically I probably wouldn't have kept at it. So I made that decision I go. You know what I'm going to get a PT. When I found the biggest guy in the gym, all right, the guy that was in the best shape didn't fuck around. I'm big on this too. I would never would you ever hire a fat PT.
Both:Why would you hire exactly?
George:exactly, or a PT that's not in great shape, no well, maybe just in okay shape. Let's just look at it and go. Man, how could I listen to you?
Robby:But that's the thing this is. Goes back to the whole thing about. I've seen PTs that are not in shape at the gym before I've seen personal training that are not in great shape like fat, no, no, just skinny fat.
George:Yes, skinny fat. Let's say that.
Both:But still again, I've like hang on like it like how bad.
Robby:Like I was I don't know how you describe this. Like me, Are you not skinny fat?
Both:Whatever I would. Yeah, I guess skinny.
Robby:That's like a person who hides it really well, but they're kind of flogged.
George:I reckon I'm skinny fat. I just got the spare tile around my waist, so that's. But that's always the hardest part to lose. See, this is the thing. I was in the pool. When we're talking about that 5% of people, 5% of guys I didn't put myself in that 5%, I put myself in the 95.
Robby:Awareness.
George:Yeah, that's right. I can't sit here and say, yeah, I'm fucking part of the five, as much as I wanted to be. I feel that I was at that moment, you know now, standing in the pool.
Both:if the water was above belly button space, it was like, yeah, this guy's a good shot, this guy's in the five. As soon as you get out, you go. Oh, a bit of a spare time there.
George:So I didn't put myself in that 5%, but anyway. So we're talking about the PT, so I needed that help. I could have gone to the gym by myself. I really wanted to. I really want to get into shape. Is it daunting?
George:Yeah, I think this guy has taught me. I think he's the best guy I've come across, as far as Shadda to Jordan, if you're watching and listening but I reckon he's in the best shape that he can be in and I recognize that. But he's the most knowledgeable guy when it came to techniques to lift and to push yourself and training and nutrition and all that sort of stuff. And I've learned a lot from him during that period and as a result of that, I now have that confidence to go to the gym on my own to motivate and do that sort of stuff too. So I felt that you're saying that you want to take that step, finding people that can help you take that step and surrounding yourself by that. It's like that you become the average of the five people you're around. Well, change that average. Get that people around you.
Robby:How good is it when you find someone that is very good at what they do? Yeah, so good, like it is, but why? So you know why it's so good? Because not many people are that good at what they do. Yeah, that's why it's so good. If it was everywhere, you wouldn't like it as much, but people are that no good at what they do that when you find someone, dude, I went in. What today?
Both:was saying that's what it's. It could be such an like it's not that hard to win, but you guys are fucking asleep. You're sleeping at the wheel the truck. Wake the fuck up, dude, wake up.
Robby:Hey, I went today. This morning I went to buy. I walked into buy a gaff. Do you know what a gaff is? So I'm going to Eden in going fishing.
George:Yeah.
Robby:Okay, so I'm going to buy a gaff is like a big hook to catch, like if you get a really big fish, you can't pull it up with the line. You need this massive hook to pull it up. I went to buy a gas.
George:I'm like in something. I know what you did last summer. You're not a movie buff, fuck, keep going, anyway. So I went to buy a gaff and I called them yesterday.
Robby:I ordered it in 130 bucks. I walked into get today. The guy was that enthusiastic about a big about just everything we off to. And then we started talking anyway, went into, spend 130, walked out spending 1500. Just bought a new rod, do you feel that new line? But all these lawyers, like he just did, he was so passionate and at the end man, I was like hey, thank you Good. Sat down with me like after I paid, come sitting. I want to show you some spots like so passionate about what he did. Yeah.
George:And give that man a raise, by the way.
Robby:Well, here's the best part. I was like either owner and he's like no, I was like what? You don't own this place? And he's like no, and I'm like you just work here. And he's like, yeah, dude. And he's like, hey, if you're there and they're not biting, call it. Called the shop. Ask me my name, steve. And I'm like dude, I'm not going to call the shop. I might, but how? Like you know what I mean. So talk about over the delivering.
Robby:That's it so passionate and so knowledgeable, so taught me so much. Man, I was there for like an hour. Went went to walk in, grab it and walk out. I swear, went to walking, grab it and walk out Parked fucked Cause I was like I'm going to be two minutes and yeah, he caught me. He shared his knowledge. He knew exactly what he was talking about.
George:Above and going above and beyond.
Robby:And look at that Extra service yeah.
George:And I go back there in five, 10 years time probably, he's going to run the shop. If that's what he wants when I say run that shop, it'll be well, obviously he's pretty old.
Robby:I was convinced he was the owner. I was like this guy must be the owner. I called, I spoke to you, I walk in. You're the first guy I see. You knew everything about everything. And you're not even the, you're just a worker, Good on him Passion Good on him. It's not that hard to be that good.
George:So, yeah, you want. You want to take the step, surround yourself with the right people. Anything else you would say with that or add to that. No, I think maybe plan it out. So go cool, I'm going to. I want to just use fitness again. I'm going to work out once week.
Robby:Yeah. Or like tie some emotion in, like why are you doing this? Why do you want to lose the weight?
Both:Yeah, not just the six pack.
Robby:The six pack can't the?
George:destination can't be the end result Like you've got to be, you know.
Robby:Is it that you want to meet your grandkids? Is it that? Do you know what I mean? Like, tie the? Do you want to walk your daughter down the aisle? Like, what is it, at the end of the day, that's really going to push you to get what you want? I genuinely believe that if you connect the dots with and I'll use cigarettes here as an example I genuinely believe that if you connect the dots with someone smoking and them not seeing their kids grow up, I genuinely believe you can make anyone quit. Most people are too scared to connect the dots.
Robby:Do you want to be like genuinely connected dots? Cause if they found out the next day that, holy, I've got 12 months left and I'm not going to see my six year old grow up into an adult. That would fucking destroy you and would do anything in that moment, anything to take it all back. And if you can connect the dots before it happens, I think you're giving someone the greatest gift ever you know. So you've got to tie it into. Why do you really want this?
George:And you know what? We touched on this the other day. It's like you said to me, when we were in Sydney and you grabbed a doughnut for dinner, I fucking lost my mind. I couldn't believe it. Breakfast, sorry, not for breakfast. I couldn't fucking believe it. I was blown away. I was so surprised. I didn't think you, of all people, would eat a doughnut for fucking breakfast. It was a good doughnut, though. See my biceps. Well, I saw your fucking your waistline as well. It's worth it, well worth it. But you said to me you go, look if I'm getting fat. You're like it's. You got to tell me.
Robby:I said you would tell me.
George:I expect you. I expect you to do that For someone that cares and loves you.
Robby:Yeah.
George:You should be telling that. Yeah, you're looking at, you're being a shit mate, yeah, but even a partner. Like, think about it, you're being complacent if your partner smokes. Right now you have an obligation to try and stop them. You have that obligation to do it to get them on the right path and say, like, what the fuck are you doing?
George:You really genuinely care, that's right, You've got to move heaven and earth to make sure that they understand that. Now some people might not react to that. Well, whatever it is, but ultimately when you connect those dots, I can date someone that smokes.
Robby:I could not do it.
George:Yeah, there you go.
Robby:It'd be a rule. Like it'd be a rule.
George:Yeah, like, stop, yeah, I'm leaving, I'm going to go to the parking lot, and then I'm going to go to the parking lot. Yeah, that's it. Well, there's some of your values, isn't it? So that's the type of people that you're going to attract. So where were we with that?
Robby:I've got lost the track, but yeah, you've got to move heaven and earth.
George:Yeah, oh, sorry that you care for someone you know you've got to.
Robby:If you really genuinely care about them, you're going to do what you need to do to get them on the right path too.
George:Oh, 100%, and that in itself is an uncomfortable conversation.
Robby:Uncomfortable conversations Most people won't talk about. I read this a couple of times. It's where we're so going to find people. Most people won't talk about the little things that they need to talk about, yeah, In their relationship, in their life, in that sometimes the conversation is with yourself, Like hey yeah.
Robby:I am getting fat. Yeah, you know, and I need to do something about this. Or you know, hey, when you do, in relationships especially, all the little shit ends up festering. Yeah, you know the little things. Oh, she did this and annoyed me. No, I won't say anything. Oh, he did that, it annoyed me, I won't say anything. And it builds, and it builds, and it builds, and it builds, and it builds, and it blows up Over what you weren't. You didn't have the courage, I guess is the word. You didn't have the courage to have that conversation that you both would have been uncomfortable having.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:You know what I mean and for what you get. You know what it is with being uncomfortable as well. You get comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah, Like you get comfortable doing the things that you don't like doing, Absolutely you don't. Some things you'll end up liking more, some things you won't. But let me tell you, you get better at doing them. I don't ever sit there and think cold shower, I can't wait. I swear I don't, man, but it doesn't stop me from doing it. You know, same thing with the ice bar, same thing with the runs. Like I don't ever sit there, I can't wait to go for a run tonight. Yeah, I never want to go for a run ever, Ever. Can't think of one time. Can't think of one time. So they're like can't wait to do this?
George:Yeah, but uncomfortable conversations is so important, so important. Jordan Peterson said this conflict delayed is conflict intensified.
Robby:Love JP yeah.
George:And I remember reading that I go fuck, that's so true. The more you delay that difficult conversation, it actually becomes worse. And I think that, even from a work perspective, how many conversations are you guys avoiding right now? With an employee, with a client, with a supplier, subcontractor, whoever it is? You're avoiding that conversation because you're like, fuck, I cannot be bothered listening to their shit. This is going to cost someone money Me, them, us. We're going to argue, so you just avoid, I'll call them tomorrow, I'll call them on Friday, and then Friday comes. I fuck, it's the week.
Robby:Yeah, it's like yeah, fuck, it's one o'clock, I'll do it yeah.
George:And I really call them when you became aware of the issues.
George:They say oh yeah yeah, yeah, just this just came up. I just want to call you and let you know and they don't answer. Eat the frog. I actually called the client the other day, yesterday. Now they're avoiding my conversation. Oh yeah, and I'm like like fucking gutless. But anyway, because I don't actually think they're even going to respond, they owe me money.
George:And I called them up. I said hey, how can you? Yeah, I hope you're doing well, just letting you know I'm still here. Give me a call, just want to have a quick chat with you. And they even called me back. I messaged them as well. That didn't answer. So it's, it's very disappointing, but they're avoiding that difficult conversation, because if they answered the call honestly, it wouldn't be that bad. I'm not going to yell at them and say, hey, look, I can see the misunderstanding here. How about we do this, this, this and this? Right, I won't charge you the full amount, I'll just charge you what it costs me, just so, because, with the jobs finished, I'm like let's just do that and then we just walk away, as in Do you think they're doing it?
Robby:I think they're doing that more so to not try and get away.
George:Um, yeah, like that, obviously they don't want to pay the extra money. Yeah, yeah, but still it's regardless. Like, have some integrity, have some integrity about yourself. Like you've asked for something to get done and now you're not paying for it. Like what's wrong with you? That's stealing your crook and guys. You're going to come across people like that all the time. You can't get upset over shit like that. That's what I've learned over the years. Um, and do you know what else I've learned over the years? Off topic? Hey, we haven't gone sideways yet.
Robby:We're really pretty good.
George:We're really good on time today's topic. I'm like fuck on last last episode. But the more successful you get, the more you're going to need a solicitor. That's what I've realized. The bigger you get, the more you're going to want people around you Like real good consultants, solicitors, accountants, uh, people like that to have your back when you need them. Just call them up. So hey, sort this out, your deal, your problem.
Robby:Yeah, thanks, I'm going to leave it to me yeah, it's about building your um advisory board.
George:That's it. So, yeah, the uncomfortable conversations is is something you're going to have to get used to, especially with yourself or with someone else that you care about, and doing that early on man makes such a big difference.
Robby:So we'll close with this, and it's probably, if you've listened to this whole episode, in one hit there was probably a person. You've thought about a thing, you've thought about a conversation that you know, a call or a text that you haven't responded to or you know you need to make, and I'm going to say go and start by doing that thing. Now. I go, do that thing, eat the frog, bite the bullet. You know the band aid hurts less when you rip it off faster to it now, right now, to a hole.
George:Finish that.
Robby:Yeah, pause and come back and we'll celebrate.
George:Yeah, do it right now, because You've got that some level of motivation or that one thing has come into your head that you know. You know what it is. You have to do.
Robby:Yeah, and you're not, something would have popped up.
Both:Yeah, absolutely it would have, something would have popped up. Absolutely yeah, did for me 100% did it.
George:Yeah, yeah, you're gonna do it after this. Yeah, sick, I give you some time.
Robby:It's good. No, it's good. Get a little out of this man. It's awesome.
George:Yeah, it's like I said. I think it was last episode. I listened back to an episode and I got something out of it that helped me in that, in that day, in that moment, which was really cool.
Robby:Really cool, so go eat that frog.
George:Yeah, eat the frog, get shit happening, get it done or just be one of the 95%. Be one of the 95% and you know you, the comfort of today, yeah, comfort today is an uncomfort tomorrow.
Robby:You know, have you had the frog in the boiling water thing?
Both:I pretty sure I have.
Robby:Yeah, so when you put a frog. So if you put a frog, if you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, the frog would jump straight out.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:And it would sense that the water's hot. But if you put it into a pot with normal water and then you slowly turn up the heat, the frog would never pick up on it. And then, next thing, you know, the frogs boiled and dead. And I tell, people are living their lives, man. You know, the changes are happening so incrementally that we don't notice and we're so comfortable that we're not paying any attention to it. And the next thing, you know, you are 10 kilos heavier. You have not spoken to that person for five years. You know what I mean. It's just dragged on and on and on and on because you've avoided it. And you hear now, listening to this, guys, we're telling you to do something about it.
George:Think back to five years ago from right now. Think back to five years ago. What's that Not 2019.?
Robby:2019.
George:Think back to 2019. All right, and see just how quick that's fucking gone. Just blink, then it's over. And chances are because, statistically speaking, the majority of you maybe not of our listeners, but the majority of people are doing the same shit they were doing five years ago the same problems, the same issues.
Robby:Wake up.
Both:Five years has gone by, five years 60 months gone.
George:But now is your opportunity, and you can't change the past. Okay, you can't change the past, you can't predict the future. All you can do is action right now and today. That's all you can do. That's all you can control your thoughts, your actions right now. After that, before that, who knows?
Robby:It's true, man. It's true, it's going to go like that. Anything else you'd like to add?
George:No, I'm content.
Robby:Go do something.
George:Wake up.
Robby:Wake up.
George:Or don't, and come back here in five years. Come listen to this episode, to this podcast again in five years, if you're that way inclined to the same episode. No, no, come back to this episode, absolutely. But come back in five years. Do you know why? Because this fucking podcast will still be around. The difference will be is we probably will have GC sitting here, probably will have Jordan Peterson sitting here, or we won't, and they'll invite us to this, or it'll be in a different office.
George:Yeah, but man okay we're talking about doing extraordinary things. How easy is it bringing it back again? We're trying to finish, but we're bringing it back. How easy is it not to create content?
Both:Yeah, it's doing nothing.
Robby:Doing nothing is the easiest.
George:We're doing this podcast. Now, this is effort, yeah, right, this is doing that. Recording it's one thing, but we're also filming it, yeah, and then you film it, okay, cool. So now we're going to film it and we're going to put it on the audio. So it goes on Apple spot, spotify, is that it? So it goes audio Everywhere. But then it goes YouTube, we go Instagram, linkedin, like all that takes huge effort.
George:Yeah, that is so far out of our comfort zone. So much easier to be going and doing your digital marketing. So much easier for me to go running the construction company. But we're taking time out of our day to do this because we see that this can lead to extraordinary things.
Robby:But it's delayed, delayed gratification. We've done it.
George:Honestly, man, how many people we listen to. We have a few regular listeners, this, and we love you. Thank you. We appreciate the messages beyond. Compare yeah and drop us a line. We'll always respond. Always respond to your messages. Hashtag top George, top George.
Both:Has that episode come out?
George:I think it's coming out soon. Yeah, very excited. Top George, holy shit Anyway.
Robby:That made you lose Couple of times today. Yeah, yeah, the stress to the top, george. Now you were saying but we've got our listeners who are coming in. We're doing this with delayed gratification.
George:Delayed gratification because we're not seeing the millions rolling in, we're not getting the accolades, we're not on a current affair yet. Yeah, maybe, after last episode, probably get a fuck.
Robby:After the last one yeah.
George:It's anything, but go out there, guys, do extraordinary things because you deserve it.
Robby:And I think it's a game easier to win as well. Don't overkill it. Like you know, start, do something. Don't read 43 books.
George:Read a page. Just read a chapter A chapter Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. Loved it. Love having you here, love having the conversations. If you're not subscribed already, please do. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us reach more people and I'm sure it'll help someone in business or in life as well.
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Both:Positive, very important Hunting you down.
George:Finding out where you live.
Robby:Yeah, and hunting you down, that's it.
George:Thanks guys, see you next week. Awesome Thanks guys.