Million Dollar Days

Expectations and How It Affects You

March 06, 2024 Robby Choucair and George Passas Season 1 Episode 19
Expectations and How It Affects You
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Million Dollar Days
Expectations and How It Affects You
Mar 06, 2024 Season 1 Episode 19
Robby Choucair and George Passas

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Ever found yourself caught off-guard by how your personal interests can unexpectedly steer your life's journey? That's exactly where our conversation starts, diving into personal branding and the surprising delights of content creation. We wax poetic about the joys of voiceover work, the adrenaline rush of jet skiing, and how such passions can pivot the course of our future. Join us as we laugh, reflect, and share how hobbies can not only add joy but also inspire major life decisions, all while acknowledging the pivotal role our community plays in shaping this very show.

Have you ever been frustrated by a dead car battery or the letdown of an overhyped event? Yep, we've all been there, and this episode is no exception. We get real about the tangled web of expectations and standards, sharing stories from the annoyance of everyday mishaps to the complexities of managing expectations in relationships. It's a candid look at how our mindsets can craft or crumble our happiness, underscored by personal anecdotes that reveal the subtle dance between hope and expectation.


The final notes of our episode bring us to a heartfelt thank-you to you, our listeners. It's your engagement that helps us build a community keen on change and filled with shared stories. We've pondered the eccentricities of musicians, navigated the emotional rollercoaster of gift-giving, and even dipped our toes into the anxiety of aging and politics. So, whether you're looking for inspiration, a dose of reality, or simply a good chuckle, we're here peeling back the layers of life's expectations, one story at a time.

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Send us a Text Message.

Ever found yourself caught off-guard by how your personal interests can unexpectedly steer your life's journey? That's exactly where our conversation starts, diving into personal branding and the surprising delights of content creation. We wax poetic about the joys of voiceover work, the adrenaline rush of jet skiing, and how such passions can pivot the course of our future. Join us as we laugh, reflect, and share how hobbies can not only add joy but also inspire major life decisions, all while acknowledging the pivotal role our community plays in shaping this very show.

Have you ever been frustrated by a dead car battery or the letdown of an overhyped event? Yep, we've all been there, and this episode is no exception. We get real about the tangled web of expectations and standards, sharing stories from the annoyance of everyday mishaps to the complexities of managing expectations in relationships. It's a candid look at how our mindsets can craft or crumble our happiness, underscored by personal anecdotes that reveal the subtle dance between hope and expectation.


The final notes of our episode bring us to a heartfelt thank-you to you, our listeners. It's your engagement that helps us build a community keen on change and filled with shared stories. We've pondered the eccentricities of musicians, navigated the emotional rollercoaster of gift-giving, and even dipped our toes into the anxiety of aging and politics. So, whether you're looking for inspiration, a dose of reality, or simply a good chuckle, we're here peeling back the layers of life's expectations, one story at a time.

Robby:

So how do you draw the line between, like, expectations and standards? When is it a good thing to have expectations, when is it not okay?

George:

so if you've got high, expectations for the quality of people that you want in your life. So that means you're not gonna tolerate when people are shit, when people do the wrong thing by you. But is that?

Robby:

is that an expectation or a standard it could be. If you cannot get upset, did you really have the expectation? Yeah, was it more hope than belief? You genuinely believe something should be a certain way. That doesn't go that way, that's upsetting. But if you hope or would like it to, it's a little bit different. How do you separate? Cuz I'm like well, fuck, expectations bad. But then I'm like but are they?

George:

Welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, lovely to have you here. Howdy doody, howdy doody.

Robby:

I hope you're having a million dollar day and if you're not by the end of this, you will be always yeah you will be when you listen to it day night.

George:

Running, swimming, yeah, both boating. Where are you listen to your podcasts, boating?

Robby:

thanks for joining us guys you like boats, fucking love boats do you know you don't strike me as a bow guy.

George:

I love the water, so I'm gonna make sense, however. I'm on the water. Yeah, it's happy we should. I'm gonna jet ski, yeah.

Robby:

I'm gonna. You're gonna ride a cold yeah, and then I got told off. That was the first time I've heard just yeah, and it inspired you to go fuck.

George:

I gotta get me to change my whole life, change your life, just like a million bucks, and then you can go get one, just one, each, each, for every day, for each day. I'm pumped, really happy to be here again. This is, this is a good thing, this is a good thing we got a good thing going.

Robby:

The podcast, podcast it's. It's my holiday week.

George:

I thought it was so much every single week we get at least a comment through social media.

Robby:

Boys yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so I'm amazing, amazing work, amazing comment, amazing everything.

George:

So it's cool that we're reaching some of you and that you're enjoying it, and we want to continue to bring heaps of value and some laughs along the way.

Robby:

I've also added a page, that where people can actually put in the topics. Yeah, I'm gonna put into what's called the show notes. Show notes, I get put somewhere. You'll see it on the screen. You'll do. It'll be somewhere. I don't know, maybe it'll be in the thing, maybe it won't.

George:

And whether you do it don't, it's still gonna be a great listen. Yeah, some sick topics. We don't stop. There's so many things you could always talk about, and how much do you ever? How many times have you heard it? Probably more so you than me, because you're in the space of branding and marketing. Every single day is like I don't know what to talk about. I don't know what to do. What am I gonna do? I just I'm just a florist. I'm just what could I build a talk about? What could I teach you talk about? I was watching a video the other day and I can't even remember what it's called. It's called the lawn mower guy or some shit like that. I know if you've ever seen that. You've seen the time lapse videos of a guy cutting lawn.

Robby:

No, but it sounds pretty satisfying yeah, well, it's probably it by.

George:

Imagine it is because the guys got like close to a million followers and all he does is he knocks on people's doors and goes and this is an Australian guy, but I don't think he started the trend. There was some bloke in America that did it and he goes on walks with people so say I picked someone once a week to make their lawn for free. He picks a lawn that's really overgrown and and what not. He goes. I just do it out of the goodness of my heart. We just share it across our social media pages and then that's how I get business and referrals and all that sort of shit. Anyway, this guy, just from simply filming himself in a time lapse video cutting people's lawns, has made millions and millions of followers on social media. And this guy in Melbourne sorry, australia somewhere and he does that exact same thing and he's got 900 and something thousand followers from cutting lawn. So if you're sitting there and you're saying I don't know what the fuck to do in my brand, you're just making bullshit excuses yeah, you haven't.

Robby:

You haven't sat down and found a good way to think.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah yeah, well, dude, like use I read this thing, actually share this with some of my clients. It's a great template you can use to punch into like AI. Now for it to, because this is the biggest mistake people are making when they make content. They're getting AI to do everything, and I put up a tweet about it today and you can't get it to do everything, but you can get it to do the thinking. Get it to give you the topics and then talk about what you like. Get it to give you 50 different ideas and then pick six that you like and then go and talk about it if you're an expert on it. If you're not, maybe you should make content about something else, true?

George:

yeah, without a doubt, and sometimes you don't even need to be an expert, you just need to love it. That's true, yeah, but you know what, when you love it, you end up being an expert by default yeah, imagine you love peanut butter so much I do, and then you create a channel and dedicate a channel to it.

Robby:

I will.

Other:

Now that I have to take it out.

George:

But silly as that sounds, there's people there that'll be like man. I love peanut butter so much as my favorite thing. I bet you there's fucking pages out there, right now if you go on to Facebook or Instagram someone take me, tag me in a Instagram in a post about peanut butter.

George:

Right, and there's a someone out there that loves it so much he dedicates. He's tried all the different peanut butters across the world. He travels to factories that actually make the stuff. He speaks to the sea. He would have hundreds of thousands of millions of followers just because he loves peanut butter and he himself is probably a million hours a result of that but you know why people don't look?

Robby:

I think, yeah, it's because they expected to happen like this.

George:

Yeah, I mean I had this conversation with a whole group of people yesterday about building brand and I was talking about it. As far as this year, I have had more inquiries into my business. In the first two weeks, then I reckon I did all of 23.

Robby:

And that is I love to hear that and that is coming yeah. I love that but that has come from branding and and not just that, like even doing the events and then people seeing you do that and then they you know you get position, even like me just speaking at your events. People like Are you a keynote speaker? I'm not, but yeah, like it just at all A fucking half hour session. It's all, it's all perception. Right, like people see what you about them to see.

George:

Yeah, yeah, so cool, it is so cool and it's and these are top notched projects to like their jobs that I would definitely do Now, not to say I'm going to win all of them, but how good is it that I've got a flow of work coming through the door? Honestly, it's more than I can probably take on right now. That's how much work I have and you know what I'm going to do and take it all on, because I'm not here to fuck spiders. Yeah, exactly, I love that. I don't understand it.

George:

I don't get it Me. That's why I like it so much. I do not understand the concept, but I get it. How good is he slang.

Other:

Yeah, I don't get it, but I get it.

George:

Yeah, there's so many things that you could be like. What did you just say? Like people from overseas, have you like? What are you the hell are you talking about?

Robby:

You know, people don't do what they need to do because of expectation like they want. They get let down when they don't get the result they want in the time they want.

George:

Yeah, and they think are you talking in general or with brand?

Robby:

Well, regarding brand, but in general, everything, yeah, but with brand particularly. But people don't do it because they think Anyone thinks they can put an event on yeah, and it's going to happen overnight. You know and we spoke about this on episode one that there was pre-work. It wasn't an overnight sensation, it wasn't a wow. We ran good ads and got good engagement and we found a gap in the market and all of a sudden, the sink blew up. It was the content you had posted regularly for the five years leading up to yeah, exactly. Hey, come to the summit.

Robby:

Exactly right but people don't see that, because for a long time you wouldn't have had, you know, the level of engagement you get now. You wouldn't have had that at the start. No chance if you did. You do something wrong, like, or you did something very, very right back then, but like, I feel like it's expectation, dude, and I feel like expectation takes away our happiness from everything that is enjoyable.

George:

Yeah, yeah, you're right, I agree with that comment and I'll tell you why, please.

Robby:

The other night I called you, yeah, and I was stuck on the side of the road and I had something happen to me that hasn't happened for a long time I had a flat battery. I haven't had a flat battery in. I couldn't even tell you. The last time I had a flat battery I didn't even know how much jumper cables are going to be. How much do you think jumper cable?

George:

Honestly, if I had to go buy some from the server I do, I was like server server server server server server. Well, now that you've said it like that but if you just as me I am not sure I can jump I'd say 40 bucks.

Robby:

Oh man, I had such a higher expectation. Are you saying they're cheap, dude? They're 30 bucks.

George:

Oh, there you go there you go.

Robby:

I remember buying jumper cables back in the East Sea mechanic. Yeah, I bought lots of jumper cables. I remember paying 55 bucks for a good set of jumper cables from like a replica.

Robby:

Probably still good, yeah. But then I thought this was years ago, yeah. So I was thinking, dude, I'm going to get stung like 150 bucks now. And then I walk in and they're 30 bucks and I'm like, 30 bucks, give me two. Yeah, I'm like by two, just in case it doesn't work, anyway. So I called you. That night I was stuck on a Baytreading Port Melbourne.

George:

I told you fuck off. Yeah, he did it. Yeah, I got to pick you up now, then I kick back.

Robby:

Anyway, I got picked up jumper cables and I jumped out of my car and I drove home, started straight away. Drove home this is you talk about expectation, right? So the next morning I went home. That night went to sleep. I thought I was sort of out in the morning, I'll call mechanic, get the battery replaced, whatever. And I wake up the next morning and I knew I can't go to the gym, I can't do anything. I need to drive these things straight to the mechanic. There's a chance it'll start and it won't start again. So I said, let me see if it starts. So the first thing I did, I got up to about it was about seven and I ran downstairs and I thought, let me see if it starts. And I started it. It started.

Robby:

I was like all right, cool, go, get ready, have a shower, packed, all my shit, ready to go. Found a mechanic, waited till 8, 30 called him. Yet you're good, can I bring it in now? Blah, blah, blah. All right done. Went, put on my shindig car, jump in dead, nothing.

Robby:

And I'm like and dude, I'm pretty good at, I'm pretty good at Flipping the script, like seeing the positive or controlling. I'm pretty. I'm a pretty well emotionally regulated person and I reckon, probably after sitting there for like 45 minutes trying to work out what I'm going to do, dude the cars in a basement I live in a small building I went and knocked on every single door of every person's car that was there. Not one person answered and I'm sitting there and did a spatter dummy, cracked the shits. I was like I was at the point. I called a guy and I was like can you think is jumpstart? You come jumpstart, you can't. I was like how much to jump something? Guys like whatever you mean. I was like you, he's like 90 bucks and I'm like 90 bucks to come jumpstart, are you serious? And then I thought you know what? Fuck this guy. I hung up on him and I was like this guy, yeah, and I was like trying to help you.

Robby:

Yeah, fuck him did 90 bucks and I was like I might just go and run out into the street and wave a 50 and I'll say, hey, who wants to make a quick 50 bucks to drive your car down here?

George:

I'll hook it up or fire it up and I'll go and see standing on a corner of a street waving 50 bucks. Listen, listen, I ran out, yeah.

Robby:

I know I get worse. I ran out to the street, couldn't find anyone, came back and I'm sitting there thinking what am I going to do? Man?

George:

I actually don't know what my name is. I saw it's waiting for me.

Robby:

I'm sitting there waiting on my car bonnet, thinking someone's going to have to come down. You know what?

George:

before I can, I just interject. All right, serves you fucking right. Why? Because I bet you, all those fuckers in your building are all working from home and you are the biggest advocate for it a few fucking episodes ago.

Robby:

Answer the door if you're working. Yeah, that's like most of them aren't even awake.

George:

Yeah, you know why? Because I know they can sleep into fucking 8 30. It was like I did.

Robby:

At this point it's like 9, 30, 9, 30. I know they can sleep in because they've been working from home and I'm like, yeah, I'd say spattered dummy, this point cracked the shits. Shitty with all my neighbors, shitty with everything. Like you know, we just and I rarely do it- but I've got to go to this point.

Robby:

Yeah, and then I'm sitting there and I'm stumped and I don't know what to do and a guy at the door opens the garage door, starts opening slowly and I'm like someone's pulling in, this is fucking sick. And then a guy pulls in that's never been to the building before and goes and parks and then visit a spot. I ran to his car like Run to him, hassle him. He doesn't speak English.

Robby:

So I go and I go through this whole hand movement thing. Anyway, I get him to come over and I jumpstart the car. Dude, I'm leaving my basement and I am over the fucking moon, pumped, yeah, like pumped, and like clapping my hands, like so pumped. And then I thought what am I so happy about now? Like, what is it in this moment, right now, that I'm so happy about? I'm like, well, the car started and I put the car starts every day.

George:

Yeah, why?

Robby:

Yeah, yeah so then why aren't I so pumped in? And then I thought, well, I kind of expect the car to start on the other days. And then I thought to myself, holy shit, dude, I always think there's a lesson. Every time something shit happens to you, there's a lesson in that moment. I was so pissed off, I couldn't work out how this was going to be good. And then, as soon as it started, I got the lesson and I was like where else in my life do I have these expectations of things to be a certain way, in which it's not like that moment, just then, because you expect your car to start, or because you expect it, it's not allowing you to be happy about it.

Robby:

I do. I've never. I'd practice gratitude almost every day. Not once have I ever been grateful for my car starting. Not once, not once. Guess what I was going for? This morning my car started. But yeah, it's like where else in my life do I have this expectation for things to be a certain way? And they are that way and it's allowing me to not be happy about it or not be grateful, or appreciate it or be grateful for it.

Robby:

You know what I mean, and where else is expectation taking away that level of happiness? Yeah, do you know what I mean?

George:

Absolutely, it's so good Bit of background music.

Robby:

Does that make sense. Yeah, man so true.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

I mean, I was startled.

George:

But you can look at that. You can look at that in so many areas. Yeah, how grateful is one of the one of your grateful things that you could walk or get up out of bed without pain, free out of bed.

Other:

No.

George:

Simply walk to the fridge or to the toilet. Do you know what? I mean, and it's on until you break your leg.

Robby:

I do, I do know, I do limbs and stuff all the time so grateful. Two arms, two arms, yeah, and it's like where else? Seven fingers? Where else in your life is it showing up? Where else in your life? I do have this level of expectation. That's either making you feel shitty about something because you think it should be a certain way, or is it the way it's meant to be, but because you expect it, it's not an angry to feel, a level of happiness you could, or a level of appreciation or gratitude Fuck.

George:

You have to start a deep this podcast and we're not even into the topic yet. Tell me we're not into the topic. That's not the topic.

Robby:

Honestly, honestly, I was just a really smooth transition.

George:

The topic was expectations, is it?

Robby:

I didn't tell you I don't know. I was just a smooth transition. Did you like that? I knew. You did not even know I had no idea, no idea.

George:

That was why you didn't tell me.

Robby:

I wanted to talk about expectations. Cool, and how do you define Dude? This is me talking to myself, not now, but I'll share with you my thought process. How do you separate? Because then I'm like, well, fuck, expectations are bad. But then I'm like, but are they? They've had no expectations. I would probably tolerate anything and I'd have a bunch of shitty things in my life. So how do you draw the line between expectations and standards? When is it a good thing to have expectations, when is it not? And just sort of delve deep into this is good.

George:

You weren't ready for this. I'm ready to turn my mic off. That's it. Episode's over.

Robby:

And how do we separate them? Yeah, because they can work both ways, they can work both ways, can't they?

George:

Expectations, yeah, as in, it can be a positive thing and a negative thing, in the sense that.

Robby:

So how can it be a positive thing?

George:

Okay. So if you've got high expectations for the quality of people that you want in your life, so that means you're not going to tolerate when people are shit, when people do the wrong thing by you. But is that an expectation or a standard? It could be, yeah, it could be a standard, but no, I expect you to walk in here. Oh, it could be a standard as well. Yeah, maybe they're one and the same.

Robby:

This is what I'm saying.

George:

Yeah, so you've got expectations that, okay, new Year's Eve Right. Everyone expects New Year's Eve to be like it's meant to be. Some it's always piped up to be the best night ever and it's going to be an amazing experience and new year, new me, new experiences, new this, new that. And then you have New Year's Eve and it's like, yeah, it's just another fucking day, or it was another night out. There was nothing really truly magical about it. But you hype it up in your head oh, we're going here, we're doing this, we're doing this, and then perhaps it doesn't work out to be that way, like I hear so many people now these days saying oh, new Year's is just overrated, and do you think that could be an expectation of that too, that they expect it to be shit? I mean, it probably could be. Oh yeah, because you could have bad expectations, yeah, so but even now, well, hold on.

Robby:

So if you expect, okay, so if you expect something to be bad, and then it's standard, you're probably like, hey, it's just not bad. Not bad, do you know what I mean? But you can have the exact same thing.

George:

You expect it to be super amazing and it's standard. You'd be like oh, what a disappointment. Yeah.

Robby:

And you're like this sucks and the thing didn't change.

George:

Because I've heard people say stuff like don't lower your expectations, and then when it's better, then at least you'll be. You know, you'll have a level of happiness, or yeah, but that person's always a brokeie.

Robby:

Yeah, it's always some bum. Yeah, if you've said that before, I'm sorry. Yeah, but bad luck.

George:

Sorry about that. Yeah, you can tune out now. Yeah, that's cool, I would say. Generally speaking, I would have high expectations across the board.

Robby:

I feel like I would too.

George:

So you know, we're going on a holiday, we're going on a trip, got a new business venture coming up, I've got a new project on pricing. I would generally have a positive expectation with that. Now, I'm not going to go in and price a job going fuck, there's no chance I'm winning this job. Because then, okay, do you believe in manifestation? Yeah, and manifesting things too? Yes, isn't that a level of expectation? Is it Potentially? I'm manifesting that. Hey, I want to have this, or I'm going to have this experience, or I'm going to be this type of person.

Robby:

So okay. So what are the positive benefits to having high expectations?

George:

You will maybe subconsciously put things into motion to have that thing come to fruition. Yeah, that's not fair Conscious level, but also on an action level too, like if I'm okay, I'm going to go to Las Vegas.

Robby:

But see, isn't that standard more than expectations? Like, isn't that a I won't tolerate, like I, this is the level we work at, not I expect this of myself. Like, is there a difference between the two?

George:

What that doesn't. When you say it like that, not really Going down to the definition of the words, isn't it?

Robby:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is there a difference between the two? Like a standard is the same thing as expectations, Because having good standard, having high standards, I don't see that as a bad thing at all. But post this experience I'm like, well, this was all an expectation thing. I was super pumped about something that happens to me most days just because I thought it wasn't going to happen, and every other day I've never been happy about it, not even once.

George:

Yeah, I mean. So. You're expecting to be able to stand up up your chair. You expect to be able to stand up after this? Yes, Cast and walk to the bathroom, to the sink or wherever.

Robby:

Okay, so you know what that's a good point. Imagine I was like you had your expectations of that low. You were like wow, like every or every time you cast started you were pumped. Is that that's not a great thing as well? That kind of would be weird.

George:

Reminds me of that movie, Elf with Will Farrell. Have you seen it? Of course you haven't fucking seen it. Never seen a movie in your life. What the fuck's wrong with you? I told you to watch.

Robby:

Super Pumped. Have you watched Super Pumped? Of course I haven't watched it. What are you talking about? Everyone watch John Stan. Subscribe to Stan for 48 hours.

George:

Yeah, Robbie gets his kick back after that.

Robby:

Super pumped.

George:

This podcast brought to you by Stan yeah.

Robby:

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George:

Pull your finger out, guys. We need some sponsors. Yeah, who wants to sponsor us?

Robby:

Already asked him Little plug.

George:

Yeah, fuck it. 17,. 18 episodes deep. A big 2-0 soon. We're going to be part of the 1% Club. Episode 17, I think no, this one's 18.

Robby:

18, 19 might be 19. Is it? This might be 19. Exciting One more and we're at the 1% Club.

George:

We're in the 1% Club and then we get a hat.

Robby:

Do you expect to get a sponsor?

George:

Oh no, I don't care.

Robby:

So if you go on, you'll be wrapped.

George:

Oh, if I got one, yeah, exactly, it would Great question. Yeah, if someone calls us up right now say, hey, we want to sponsor the show, this is sick, fuck, I know that. Yeah, we started at $53,000 for the opening credit, sending the expectations high. Yeah, it was that expectation. Is that a standard Like? What are you trying? That's what I mean. I'm finding some difficulty in the definition of the words Differentiating the two. Yeah, because you can always bring them back to each other.

Robby:

Do you think there's a relation between? Are they the same thing? Can you use the word expectation everywhere? You could use the word standards. Why would there be two words? What?

George:

Yeah, sorry, I didn't write the English language.

Robby:

What's the difference between?

George:

expectations For context we are googling right now and standards.

Robby:

Yeah, I'm not talking like that. A standard is a level of quality, something that is accepted as a norm and generally used as a basis for judgment. An expectation is a strong belief that something is going to happen. There, you go, or a feeling that someone or something is going to achieve something. So expectations One is fact, the other is fiction. Yeah, there we go, there you go, shit.

George:

So your feeling or belief of a future event is pretty much an expectation. I'm going to the Grand Prix. I'm expecting it to be sick. I'm expecting to have a really good time. I'm taking clients. I'm expecting to have an expectation that they will be grateful to me to spend $2,000 on taking them into a corporate box. I'm expecting that they're going to give me more work as a result of this. So the standard would then be hey, I'm taking you here, I've got that job in the bag. Yeah, Like yep, you do, so I've got that expectation. Now what happens when I go to the Grand Prix and they're like, fuck, this is the most boring thing I've ever done in my life. And you're like bro, I've just fucking spent $3,000 on a ticket. We've got all you can eat or you can drink. And he turns around and says I hate cars, I'm all about electric.

Robby:

And I can't believe you brought me here, I'm fasting.

George:

I've been fasting for six days and it's my daughter's birthday and it's my daughter's birthday, and I don't drink alcohol, so like fuck you. But I had the expectation that this is going to be such a great event, so much fun, and I was just brought it all the way down. Now it's a drain up.

Robby:

So expectations can have some good and have some bad.

George:

Yeah, and then that probably comes down to your training a little bit too. Okay. So if it is a bad, you've got the expectation. Now I've got the expectation that I'm going to go to the Grand Prix. It's going to be an amazing experience for everyone and everything that we do there, yeah, and I'm going to have so much fun. It's going to be a great two, three days, three days that we've got tickets for it. And then when I get there and it's not because of something else happening do I let myself be upset by that, like you were cracking the shits this morning with your car or the other morning with your car, yeah, or do I go? You know what? I'm still having fun. I'm still going to enjoy this.

George:

Didn't go the way I wanted to go, but this is not. I don't regret it. I don't regret coming here. I don't regret spending the money. I don't regret inviting that person who's a trainer, because the other two people that are also here are having a fun time, so he can bring his own mood down. Doesn't need to bring mine down. So maybe it does come down to a level of your training when it comes to how you react to the result of that expectation.

Robby:

Bad or good? Yeah, that's a fair call. I agree with that. Okay, if you cannot get upset, did you really have the expectation?

Other:

Yeah.

Robby:

Because it wasn't more hope than belief. Because if you genuinely believe something should be a certain way and it doesn't go that way, that's upsetting, but if you hope or would like it to, it's a little bit different. Does that make sense? I hope is more like I wish this or this, whereas a belief is something you think is the way it should be. Does that make sense? Yeah, so if you are easily like, yeah, okay, look, I would have liked it if this had happened or if this was a better day, or whatever it is, but it didn't, but I'm not going to let it get me down Well then, did you really believe? Did you really have that high level of expectation from it? Because when you expect, when you and like put the car example aside, let's just say, for example, you know when you mates, you know when you get told, like, about a particular food or a particular restaurant or a movie, and then like, hey, this is sick, sick movie you go, let's see it.

Robby:

I'm telling you now I have not oversold, super pumped. Just on the side note, trust me, raise your expectations. Yeah, it's sick. I'm going to watch it and I'm going to be the best doc over ever seen in my life.

George:

I'm going to come. I'm thinking about the best doc I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah, better. I'm thinking about it right now, trust me, and I'm like, oh, it's got to be better than that. I'm so excited, so excited to watch this thing. And then I watch it and I'm like what the fuck is Robbie on about?

Robby:

Yeah, okay. So on that side note, how much have I raised the expectations for it? Yeah, now watch it and then report back on this podcast and let people know how damn good it was. But yeah, you know how, when, when, like someone tells you about a movie or restaurant or anything like that, and then you go and it could be a fairly decent, it could be a fairly decent movie, and then you go and you watch it because your expectations are here yeah.

Robby:

And then the movies here, which is still good. You're let down, hmm.

George:

How funny. Last night I went to a restaurant and it was voted Melbourne's best restaurant of 2023.

Robby:

I was cool.

George:

I can't remember. Honestly, I can't remember. How do you do? I don't know. Where was it the city? Um, how can?

Robby:

I, how can I Melbourne's best restaurant of 2023? That's massive.

George:

Um, I'm going to try and message someone and find out this guy.

Robby:

Yeah, we see they didn't make the booking. No, I didn't. How will tell us how was it?

George:

I didn't Like there's. I've been to Glenda Po cafe, which serve Vietnamese food down the road which I rated better.

Robby:

Mrs Wong's.

George:

Yeah, down there, mrs Wong's. Um, I'm just finding out this restaurant. Last night, there we go. So I look at that and go well, that was sold to me. We're going to the best restaurant. Um, before before we were going there, I actually had no idea we were going there. And we're going to go into the number one voted restaurant in Melbourne. I'm thinking Jesus cannot wait to love food.

Other:

How good is this going to be?

George:

I'm going to eat like an animal and people are going to look at me funny. And then, like the food was nice, like I'm not going to say it was bad.

Robby:

What's the?

George:

service, I don't even know. They had some. They had some seafood there, they had some meat, they had pasta, like it was a bit of a mix of a mix of cuisines but and everything was nice that I ate, like I ate it all, it was all good, but I didn't leave there going. I'm not ration, I'm not rushing back. Hmm, why? But then how? Because I didn't think the food was that nice, like I didn't think the food was at that level, that expectation. I was expecting, like my taste buds to explode that this was going to be the best meal I've ever had. And like, where do we sign up? Where do we come back next week? And apparently can't even get a table at this joint, like that's how full on it is at the moment.

Robby:

It's obviously a very good restaurant.

George:

Yeah, like it was a nice restaurant great service, good location, nice vibe in the restaurant. So if you take into consideration everything, maybe that's part of the rating and and how it got to where it is, but overall the food like. To me, the biggest part of going to a restaurant is the food.

Robby:

I'm not going for the lights.

George:

Exactly. So yes, that can contribute to the ambiance and the service and all that sort of jokes. Here we go. That's how it's called. Let's see what it's called Gimlet.

Robby:

Oh yeah, have you been there? Oh, you should. I just jerryed that where you were. Yeah, yeah, no, I've never been there. I've heard of it. Yeah, that is nice.

George:

As I said, not bad. But the expectation that was put on me going to this restaurant oh, number one restaurant in Victoria I'm thinking, holy shit, yeah. And then someone it was funny I was speaking to my driver on the way home and he goes he's, where'd you go? He's here, he goes. Oh, what was I? Yeah, I was all right, I probably would have preferred a nice steak. Then we started talking. He goes I love the railway hotel. I said, yeah, you know what? I would have much preferred the railway hotel than this place as far as the food was concerned.

Robby:

And I'm like, well, it's like that's the biggest plug for the railway.

George:

Oh, that's proudly brought to you by. But you know what I mean In that regard, they make a good steak. I like the food, good wine, and I can. I enjoy that. So I looked at that place and I thought that to me was a better meal than what this one was. How did that get voted? Number one so, the expectation was here, but I was like, yeah.

Robby:

So having, so having the high expectations from the rating didn't tell how you enjoy it as much.

George:

But the food, no, my taste buds didn't allow me to enjoy it as much. Maybe someone else there thought it was amazing.

Robby:

Oh, so you genuinely believe so? Had you had no stay, I didn't have a bad time there.

George:

I didn't think I didn't like pick up the table and throw it across a room. Yeah, I go order the fucking salmon.

Robby:

No, so what did you eat salmon? No, there wasn't any, there wasn't any salmon. So my question to you was this had I said a this place, let's just pop in here, and we just popped in an eight?

George:

Yeah, and then it was six. What? How am I not known about this place my whole life?

Robby:

But do you think that that could have been the experience you had with different expectations?

George:

I didn't really. I wouldn't really if you just said, let's go for a bite. I wouldn't really have any expectations, that's what I'm saying yeah.

Robby:

So all I've done by saying hey, let's go for a bite, let's change your expectations before we need.

George:

Yeah, but then someone pre-framed that and said this is going to be an amazing experience or we're going to the number. Yeah, they didn't even say it was great. They just said to me I had the Onyx. Actually, I'll put the expectation on the place because I said we're going to the number one restaurant in.

Robby:

Victoria. Yeah, so that rating made you set your expectation bar up here.

George:

Yeah, that's, it Number one. It's got to be better than any steak I've ever had.

Robby:

This is going to be the best food I've ever had. Yeah, has to be. It's pretty, it's number one.

George:

How could you be, how could you be a six for food and be number one in the eyes of six? I'm just saying, like, how could you be the number one restaurant and not have the best fucking food on the planet? Give me what. Do you know what?

Other:

I mean.

Robby:

Six, wow, 4.6,000 Google. There you go, I'm sorry, yeah it's nice.

George:

I said I didn't have a bad experience there. I'm just saying was it a 10 out of 10?

Robby:

No, yeah, but that's based on your expectations. Yes, that's what I'm saying, so it's going to be. You probably won't be able to answer this, but I'm trying to get an idea of what was everyone else's experience like.

George:

I didn't ask.

Robby:

But everyone had to go over that upset at the end. Yeah, I'm not talking.

George:

I just stopped talking, not talking to anyone.

Robby:

This has been the worst I can't believe. This place is a six yeah Six, that's three stars, that's a stab.

George:

So they have to say they're not sponsoring us anytime soon.

Robby:

Well, maybe they will, maybe they won't.

George:

Definitely not, definitely not, definitely not. So how could you? They're going to give us a three-star rating on our podcast.

Robby:

Okay, and look, I think it's human nature to do that, right, because you're going to make a judgment based on the rating.

Other:

Yeah.

Robby:

And how do we control that? How do we? What could you have done differently? Or?

George:

Let's go back to movies. It's probably a good one. It's like you've seen Oscar-winning movies. The Lord of the Rings won, like something ridiculous as far as Oscars are concerned. Nicole, my wife would never watch a single one of those movies ever. And if I made her watch it, saying this is the best movie ever, this is sick that's. And then she watches it, she'll fucking karate, kick me in the head. It's subjective.

Other:

Yeah.

Robby:

Because it's the same thing with food, like if you go to the best seafood restaurant and you don't like seafood yeah.

George:

That could be a bit of it too. Maybe it was the. I wouldn't necessarily say that place was fine dining, but maybe that's what. The style of food that it was didn't tickle my fancy.

Robby:

I'm curious. I'm curious I might go. I just want to know if you want to see it. I want to see how I'm going to.

George:

I want to see Now I've talked it down so much You'll be going there and going what?

Robby:

This lobster is the best thing I've ever had. And then that would be a really good example of how expectations can both make or break anything you do, yeah.

George:

But me going there, that didn't ruin my experience going to this restaurant. Do you know what I mean? And if you said to me oh, let's go to Gimlet today, tonight, okay, cool, let's go. So we go past.

Robby:

I can't take it seriously.

George:

Can we go past the Raleigh Hotel first, just for an appetizer.

Robby:

I just want to eat before I go there, before I go, sitting in the lights. What do you want? Ambience.

George:

Ambience, ambience, ambience, shit, all right. So how do we Off the cuff here.

Robby:

But how do we control the expectations? What do you do? How Do you need to? Do you need to Like what's the advantage, or disadvantage of controlling your expectations.

George:

Would you just go in medium with everything?

Other:

Do you know what I mean?

George:

So, whether it's good or whether it's bad, you've got that. What's okay. You've got a five out of ten for everything. You are monotone. Do you think you can? Have low expectations at all. What you are monotone.

Robby:

Do you?

George:

think you can have low expectations and high standards. Well, the high standards is a fact, the expectations is a belief.

Other:

Yeah.

Robby:

It conflicts in my mind massively.

George:

That's why I'm not answering, because the brain is upside down and left and right.

Robby:

Can you have high standards and low expectations?

Other:

Yeah.

George:

I think you can.

Robby:

Would that not be the best outcome for the two combined? Yeah, yeah.

George:

You can have some high standards, which you have an expectation. You can have that high standard, which is the fact, and your expectation can be relatively low. Yeah, you can. And then Because I've heard people say, if you have low, expectations, then you're not ever going to be disappointed. Then you'll never be disappointed.

Robby:

Yeah, but you also feel like, so your thing about having high expectations. Then low beliefs as well, you'll have some level of drive towards achieving more.

George:

Well saying high standards, yeah, high expectations, that's right. But the expectation, that's right, because if I've got an expectation of a future, anything that's.

Robby:

Is that right? That makes 100% sense to me.

George:

Yeah, but it's a future. Is that an expectation, is a future notion? Yeah, it's something.

Robby:

A way that you think is something, an expectation is unknown.

George:

Is that fair enough to say An expectation?

Robby:

is unknown, yeah, because then once. So it's not real. Well, once it's yeah, it's a belief. A belief is not real, that's right.

George:

Do you believe that there is such thing as fear? Do you believe in fear? Do you believe fear is a real thing?

Robby:

I believe we feel fear yeah.

George:

Okay, so I can't. I can never watch any movies. There's this movie that Will Smith played. I think it was called Eye Robot. That was Fandome Black.

Robby:

Oh, by the way, Saw that whole thing which the clock. Oh, did you so good? Now I know exactly what you're doing.

George:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, cool, sorry off topic guys, you will understand in one time too. Six weeks, six weeks, that long.

Robby:

Well, yeah, less. Yeah, I was gonna say longer.

George:

Fuck, you lost my train of thought. Will Smith I think it was called Many black Earth or something like that. Anyways, he's in space or something. I'll find the movie, but it was actually not a great movie, but it's.

Other:

It had a great saying in it.

Robby:

He slapped on the mouth.

George:

No it was definitely pre-slap, pre-slap, definitely pre-slap, and he was playing with his son. Him and his son were the two main characters and long story short. There was this quote in it that he said that fear doesn't exist. There is no such thing as fear. Fear is a preconceived notion in your mind of a future event that hasn't happened or may never happen. To believe in fear is insanity. It's not real. Danger is real, but fear is not. Fear is a made-up belief. So then on that motion, he's pretty much saying that there is no. Fear doesn't exist. You are scared of a future thing. Yeah, I am fearful of something that may or may not ever happen. That's what's not real. That is what it is, yeah. So then the same could almost be said about an expectation.

Robby:

But hold on, hold on. So let me stop you on the fear thing, because, yes, it isn't real, but it's not to say that you can't feel. Dude, have you ever had anxiety about something that was all in your own head? Yeah, and it never happened. Yeah, and you're like holy f, and after it you're like, oh my God, think about a difficult phone call.

George:

Like people avoid making a phone call or having that conversation a confrontational conversation because of what they make up in their head going, and then when they actually have that conversation, it wasn't that bad.

Robby:

Yeah, but you know, what that's like.

George:

That's a level of anxiety, isn't it? Yes, you're being anxious about that phone call and making it up in your head, but that's a. And okay, anxiety is not real, that's the reality, don't you?

Robby:

Yeah, that's right, I know what you're saying.

George:

They're not real, none of them.

Other:

Everything's fake, fake news, that's actually called avian psychology, Some guy named Adlerin who created the psychology of the thing. I would say, because you have Freudian psychology, which is the traditional one. So, like, probably your parents gave you anxiety, PTSD or trauma or something. Adlerin psychology is the other way around. You do not wish to call it. That's why you create in your mind the anxiety that you don't want to call it Like it's like reverse psychology. It's called Adlerin psychology.

Robby:

Yeah, I was referring to more. So, like manufacturing a situation so bad in your own mind of like this means that. And then, if that, here's a great question what are some of your flaws? And you'll understand why I'm asking in a moment. Well, what are some of your flaws? I care too much. Shut up. What are some of your flaws? Because most people like it gives you a really good indication of someone's level of awareness, and I'll let you think about it for a moment while I share this.

Robby:

I asked that because I believe one of my flaws is I overthink, and that's completely related to what I was talking about. So I've had situations in my life where I have thought about something and no new information has come to light regarding that particular circumstance, and I have gone in my own head and turned it into something so far in one direction, and then felt anxious about it and thought, oh my God, I've got to do something here, when, like initially, I didn't have to do anything. Nothing changed other than the things I've thought about. So there's been no external factors that have changed. I've received no more information. There's nothing has changed from the outside. Everything was internal and just from my own thinking, I've gone and created this whole massive situation, felt anxious as shit about it and then realized that I'm creating all this in my own head. And then, once I have the realization, everything goes away.

Other:

Do you know?

Robby:

what I mean and it's like well, is that real? No, I wasn't. You made it up, yeah, but like the feeling was real to me at the time.

George:

Is depression real?

Robby:

Is depression a real thing? Yeah?

George:

like I mean, what makes you depressed? Expectations, yeah, and your thoughts. You know it's like you said it the other day like if you don't believe it to be real, how can it affect you? Tate says that all the time. Like it's like I don't believe that depression is a real thing. If you're depressed, go to the gym, get a six pack and then tell me if you're still depressed after that. He's just saying to work, it's not to have a six pack, it's just put in the work and get the accomplishment of doing something. And then you're not thinking about whatever's making you sad, you're thinking about the task at hand. But you know, on that notion, if you, if we're going down that path of you, can almost say every, almost every thought or belief, that's not real, it's almost being made up, it's something that you make up in your head. Well, what makes something real? The moment?

Robby:

What do you mean?

George:

Right now so what's real.

Robby:

How do I know if something's real?

George:

Well, yeah, so you're going to go that deep and say, like how do we know we're not plugged into the matrix right now?

Robby:

No, it's like that You're actually plugged into the matrix.

George:

It's also that theory. You could say we weren't here five minutes ago. How could you tell, how can you prove to me we weren't here five minutes ago, that this isn't just fucking made up everything? Five minutes ago we would born into existence. What?

Robby:

Because you have memories.

George:

They would put that Everything, everything you are thinking and being right now was there, was planted five minutes ago. Before that nothing existed. You didn't exist. Prove it, Prove the theory wrong. You could have recordings Never. They were all put there. Everything has been made Just, I suppose the whole like again, imagine the actual movie. Have you watched the fucking matrix?

Robby:

Yeah, I did Like a year ago, did you? Yeah, on the plane, bullshit, I was kind of Europe.

George:

The actual, the first matrix film, not the like the latest ones, the very first one, Did you like that?

Robby:

And then I panicked because I was like how's no one freaking out?

George:

Did you watch it? Yeah, like, did you like it? I didn't finish it.

Robby:

I watched most of it.

George:

That doesn't count.

Robby:

You can't sleep I fucking sleep.

George:

Okay, I'll watch. I'll watch that in the vertical Super pumped, super pumped. If you watch the matrix.

Robby:

Yeah, but you watch the matrix first.

George:

All right, all right, I will, but you're going to watch the matrix. If you don't we're not doing another podcast.

Robby:

I'll watch it live on the podcast. No, I'll watch it.

George:

So, anyway, the whole theory behind the matrix, and you should watch it.

Robby:

It's actually a really good move. I think they plugged into those.

George:

Yeah, I actually didn't understand it. The first time I watched it I was like what the fuck is I just watched?

Robby:

So again, like any everyone after I got it.

George:

I was like what? That's an amazing concept because you would not know right now. If you were plugged into the matrix, you would not know that it's real. What we are experiencing is real or it's fake. The taste of water. Why does everything taste like chicken? Yeah, everything tastes like chicken because the computer algorithm can't get the taste of chicken properly, so they just make everything taste like chicken. So how do you prove that you can't?

Other:

That's actually a very solid theory.

George:

Which one? The five minutes ago, the matrix.

Other:

Your theory, that you're saying you can't prove anything, because there's also a theory about while the universe is expanding, what happens after the universe expands too much, so like everything goes back to the big bang and what happens after that. And there's a theory about there are multiple brains that think the universe is them, but there's like everything can happen inside of that brain. It's a very strange theory but you can actually like mathematically, like pinpoint it.

George:

Yeah, something like that. You can deep dive into this shit Like you know what blows my mind the universe.

George:

And how big it is, just like I can't fathom, like have you ever seen any of those video clips or anything where it zooms out? They go this is Earth. And then it zooms out and go this is our solar system, yeah, this is our sun, all right, this is our Milky Way. And it's like keeps going. This is our galaxy, all right. Like this is the guy. This, this galaxy is made up of trillions, not billions, trillions of solar systems of other galaxies. And then it zooms out again and then that is made up of trillions of billions of the and it's just like a spec like this, yeah, and then you're like hang on hang on, where's we're in that?

George:

all the way in, and it's like we aren't a fucking spec of dust, the planet. We're not a spec of dust, exactly, they're like, and it's like, you know, like it's not even ants, yeah. But like then, you think how small as an ant when we aren't a fucking like microscopic tick in the grand scheme of things. That blows my mind, that shit, when I look at that and it's just like wow.

Robby:

Sometimes it's really good, like it's a good grounding exercise as well, to bring you back and make you realize like some of the shit you're worrying about Does it really matter. You can not. Starting one morning, hmm, dude, I completely spat the dummy. I was fucking swearing head off, swearing head off. I couldn't believe no one was answering the door. Man, don't mean I could not. I 30. It was like nine, 15, man. I was outside for ages. You're right, why?

George:

It's surely surely people aren't sleeping on a weekday?

Robby:

on a weekday A couple of days ago.

George:

Do you reckon they're making million bucks in a day? No, no, no chance.

Robby:

No, no, there's no fucking chance. Those people are like no chance.

George:

I said did you post, post the other day? People are still sleeping, people are sleeping.

Robby:

People are still sleeping.

George:

They're asleep, don't fucking wake them, let them sleep.

Robby:

Here's the thing Most people don't even think about their expectations because they're asleep. Yeah they're just rolling through life.

George:

What about like expect I can. It happens all the time. You could have expectations on people, so you buy your friend or your girlfriend or a partner a present. Now, I think I love this present. Actually, I thought my Mrs is sick present. When's this episode gonna air?

Robby:

When's this one gonna air? Yeah, okay.

George:

So there's no way to hear it before. No, no, okay, I'm going to give away before this has actually happened. If you've any of you fuckers saying the thing, I'll find out.

Robby:

It's all, yee-hee, that's it, that's it.

George:

So my, my Mrs, is a massive Kylie Minogue fan.

Robby:

I thought you're gonna say Taylor Swift. Man, I was gonna say that.

George:

No, my sister is yeah, yeah, she's a. She's a Swifty. Come on, bro, you don't know the fucking lingo. What's wrong with you? Shit, wow, swifty, are you gonna be good to a podcast on Swifty? Yeah, we'll get on. If I can change your life, that's for sure. No, but quite well, go on, go on. Why go on the left? We're going sideways again. What she's accomplished is pretty amazing. She's a billion dollar artist. She went against the norm. She took on the big record labels and she won. And she, she has fans, the phonetics.

Robby:

That are fucking next level. Yeah, it's kind of scary Next level. Yeah, okay, it's almost, it's almost cult-like Like it is very cult-like.

George:

If we went to a Swifty concert and we're not dancing, people will fucking throw chairs at us. Do you know what I mean? Like what the fuck are you guys doing here? I've heard of people doing this.

Robby:

I've heard of people getting you know how the Hotham Sheehy was scooter brawn and they recorded, re-recorded, all the songs you know that whole thing.

George:

Yeah as in, because the, and then there's Taylor's version on Spotify. Yeah, that's right, because she the record label is doing something.

Robby:

Well, I don't know.

George:

There's two sides to that story anyway. Yeah, can you elaborate Because before Home and Me.

Robby:

Yeah, of course so she. So you need to understand the way the music in the show works. Yeah, like, people sign up to record labels, record labels go do everything for you. And then, apparently, she grew up fairly wealthy as well. Like, she grew up, she had good parents. I think that their parents had done very well for themselves. And then she told them she wants to be a singer. And she was 15 and they went and sorted out a record label so they could, you know, connect her with the right people. And then they went and turned her into a. She is Supposedly I don't know the story in full detail I Not really a fan. I don't dislike her.

George:

Yeah, not buying a ticket.

Robby:

Oh, definitely, Dude my Almost would want to go.

George:

My cousin's going, he's taking his Mrs, he's a.

Robby:

He's taking his thing and laugh. He misses a diehard fan. She's a Swifty Dude. She is a Swifty.

George:

My sister called me up because Amex had special VIP access to get tickets. Oh, yeah, yeah, and she calls me up. She goes hey, do you have an Amex? I go. Do I have an Amex? Do.

Robby:

I. You're just fucking wrong with your cause of it. They call me George.

George:

Amex they call. That's it and proudly brought to you by Amex, thanks to the sponsor. Thank you.

Robby:

You're welcome.

George:

So, yeah, she calls me up, she goes. Yeah, because they get early release to VIP tickets at the MCG. I'm like, yeah, cool here, take it, buy tickets, do what you need to do. Anyway, she ended up buying VIP tickets and they were like they're in the thousands, I can't remember, it was like she's thousand In fact each she got two. She went, she's got two nights. She went. She's not just going one night, she's gone two. So she bought VIP for one of them, and then she bought.

George:

She bought the same thing twice, and then she bought tickets just in the nosebleeds as well. So to just sit there and enjoy the musical experience that is Taylor, swiftie, swiftie. Okay, I don't know how you got to that, toby, but she's Regardless what she's. Oh, you were talking about her story, but what she's created is phenomenal. How she's gone about it.

Robby:

Yeah. But to say there's another side to it, yeah. And a lot of people say, well, in particular, do you know Candace Owens? Oh yeah.

Other:

Sort of Black Lady.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

She's probably between mine and your age. She's a big American like influence, I guess, and she's actually very intelligent and she's also very I don't know what the term is, but she's like anti, not anti, but she just doesn't buy into this whole pronoun stuff. Oh yeah.

George:

Like you know what I mean.

Robby:

She's one of us. A lot of what she, yeah, one of us. A lot of what she speaks is logical, yeah.

George:

I know exactly who you're talking about Exactly.

Robby:

She's been on, joe.

George:

Rogan yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's cool, she's really cool.

Robby:

Yeah, she's very smart the way she speaks and for some other things she says I know exactly who you're talking about and I watched a video that she made about Taylor Swift. Yeah, and she talks about Taylor Swift and who she really is and apparently she's a nutbag.

George:

I could believe that.

Robby:

Yeah, apparently she's an absolute nutbag. I'm going to get my house egg down through this. Everyone listening. This is all the Swifties. Sorry, Renee, my sister is listening now. Sorry Renee, when was I going with that? Yeah, so apparently she's a nutbag and that's why she's had so many relationships. Apparently she's like a 15-year-old girl and she's like 33.

George:

But here's the thing right with some of those people, and I kind of understand it. If you are that good at that particular thing in your life be it F1, driving, music, business, whatever it is, sport if you're like the pinnacle of the food chain, you are the number one thing. You kind of have to be weird. Think about Michael Jackson.

Robby:

I didn't say weird, no, but what I said nutbag.

George:

Yeah, well, ok, crazy. Yeah, think about Michael Jackson. He's one of the best musicians to ever grace the planet. But the guy was a strange cat. Yeah, like he was. There was something not there that was normal, and he was so obsessed and so focused on what he was doing, his craft and everything, that he revolutionized the industry. His music's going to be timeless. He was like my kids will listen to Michael Jackson and go this is a six-on. And he was so much of a freak in that aspect of his life that he had pushed so far beyond the realm of what's normal that I think it affected the other aspect of his life, the normal aspect that goes no, no, you got to bring it back down to earth.

George:

This is what people do.

Other:

And he's like I love Michael Jackson.

George:

I genuinely believe he slept with kids. I genuinely believe that. I don't believe it was sexual, but I think he slept with them thinking no, they're just children, we're just hugging. Do you know what I mean? I think in his mind he thought this was an OK thing for a male adult to do Children are beautiful and innocent Whereas everyone else were like you're a freak, you're sleeping with kids, you shouldn't be doing that. So that's so. You don't think he did? I don't know, I'm just. You don't think he touched toddlers? I don't think so. I'm a bit of a fuck. Who knows, who knows? I don't think so, but that's what I reckon based off.

George:

What I'm saying is he was so strange in that aspect of his life because he was so full on on the other. And it could be the same with her. It could be the same where she is a bit like that, where she's that way inclined, and I've heard that, that theory as well. You know, let's look at all those songs. They're all about she's 34 years old, she's single or she's with a bloke now, but she's been single for the longest time. She, all her songs are about breaking up, about.

Robby:

All did I say her song over.

George:

Her songs are ridiculously sad, yeah, and they're all about all these negative things and it's like man, but you're catchy. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, exactly Right. I mean it could be completely innocent too, my Jew Right. She's not exactly the pinnacle of what a woman should be, but then she's the way she portrays herself, and her music and everything else is the reason why she is the way she is. I've heard that theory too.

Robby:

So she goes down, cams goes down, this whole thing of explaining that every time something goes wrong she's she has a heezy fit, she has a heezy fit and turned herself into the victim and she explains the whole thing with scooter brawn and how?

George:

So what happened with that? Again with the record labels? Do you know what happened?

Robby:

Yeah, the guy was going to sell them and she didn't do anything to the other guy bought him something along those lines. Scooter bought him, bought the rights to him, yeah, yeah. So scooter brawn bought him, yeah. And then she flipped out and did this whole thing and turned everyone against scooter brawn. Apparently I don't know.

George:

I've said I saw Brute scooter at the 10 X growth conference. He was a speaker there. Fantastic. Apparently he's a. He was one of the best speakers on the family.

Robby:

He's a super smart guy. Like he's not, you know what I mean. And she makes it sound like. And then everyone turned on scooter brawn.

Other:

Yeah, he was a guy, he was a stunt where.

Robby:

When I didn't know who he was and someone told me the story, I thought, fuck, that guy seems like a dick. Do you know what I mean? That's how much they place him in that thing. And then she goes and positions herself like a victim and then her whole fan base goes and attacks that person and anyone who backs that person. Yeah, I've heard of people who have been listening to a Taylor Swift song and they aren't listening to the Taylor's version and a Swifty will see him and have a dig at him. Yeah, and it's like like relax, like how much of a fan can you be who gives a fuck?

George:

Yeah, and so what did they play on the radio To play? That's a great question.

Robby:

I haven't listened to radio in a long time.

George:

I was curious what they would play. Would they play scooters version or her version?

Robby:

She is so old assume it's scooters. Yeah, but I could be wrong. She is so influential, though, that their concern is that, because she's a little bit crazy that she's never going to find a relationship, she's never going to settle down and then she's going to get into politics Because, if you notice, she's already started to play a little bit of a role in politics. I don't follow it enough to know. Yeah, she's always started to like, try and voice her opinion about particular things, and the Swifties will vote. The Swifties will vote. They said if Taylor Swift backed a political party, would you vote for them? 40% of Americans said yes, 40%.

Robby:

That's a lot man, that's a lot dude, for just because Taylor Swiftie is backing them, not her running. Just because she's backing a particular party, imagine she ran.

George:

Be fucked.

Robby:

Yeah, so I reckon she's going to go down that route and have an impact on the world. Well, yeah, swifties, swifties. Eh, they were a real thing. Crazy. It's not an expectation. Apparently, her concerts go off, next lift go off. Yeah, apparently, what's?

George:

he, good, I think I thought about it. You got a namex I do. Yeah, good, you get one together. Yeah, okay, I'll get you one. Well, I mean, what did? She sold the MCG out, bro. She sold out the MCG twice or three times or something stupid. She sold out the MCG.

Robby:

That's 100,000 feet MCG.

George:

Now I don't know if it's the whole way around. Do you know what I mean? I think it's like a third of that.

Robby:

Oh, okay, they lose. Yeah, because when she puts the thing they lose that back piece. But still, if you're doing Okay, what's your sell 50, 60, 70,000? Probably, probably, three nights in a row In one city, then go to Sydney, then go to Brisbane, then go to. She's making back.

George:

She's making back. I mean, if you're doing any event like that at the MCG, like you're cleaning up, whatever it is, you're a big deal. Anyway, off Swiftie, back to the actual topic.

Robby:

We'll talk about it.

George:

We'll talk about when this episode is going to air, because I'm going to tell you what I got my wife for oh, yes, I'll tell you.

George:

I know it went sideways. That's what I got my wife for her birthday. So she is a massive Kylie Minogue fan. She has been her whole life because when she was Her sister's nine years older than her or something like that. So her sister used to listen to Kylie Minogue growing up and then, as a result, nicole loves Kylie Minogue. So Kylie now has a residency in Vegas and it's a Whatever it's at the Venetian. She does weekly shows or a couple of shows a month, whatever it works out. And I have bought tickets and they're all sold out, mind you, but, if I can, I'm a bit of a mover and shaker and I was able to get a couple of VIP tickets Called up. Kylie sent her a text on. So in Vegas, In Vegas.

Robby:

So by the time we, so by the time this airs, you've gone to Vegas.

George:

No, no, no, I would have given her the present. Ah okay, when are you going, may?

Robby:

Oh, okay, that's not too far at all.

George:

Yeah, that's not too far, but that were the only tickets I could actually get back then, because that's what I was able to get my hands on. Anyway, it's good tickets, vip sitting on a table. So it's going to be pretty cool. And I've got We've got tickets there, obviously, we've got a fly there, got business class, like I've gone. It's going to be sick. All right, we're just gonna sit here for a while. Okay, they're going to come later. A couple more seats here Right. Cover my eyes. Now I have an expectation that when I give her that present, she's going to be like what the fuck? She's going to start crying. Champagne will fall from the ceilings, it'll be streamers and everything, fireworks. She will be like you're the best husband in the world. This is amazing. I don't deserve you.

Other:

I don't deserve you. Husband of the year.

George:

What else can we say Like let me give you a background Like I don't know. Just everything Like what do you want for dinner? I am cooking for you. I'm going to bring you lunch tomorrow at work. Do you need a foot massage? Let me iron your underwear. Oh, I don't know those are my expectations.

Robby:

They are. They are some pretty big expectations, they are high Expecting lunch.

George:

Now what happens if I give her that present? She's like oh, they don't really like flying.

Robby:

Oh, what if she's like?

George:

oh yeah, that's not. Yeah, that's cool, that's going to be exciting. Yeah, that's something cool. We can do what?

Robby:

do you want for dinner? Can you get some eggs on the way home?

George:

Can you get some eggs and milk on the way home. What are you going to do? I'm going to fly my head kit to that. I'm going to fly roundhouse kick to the face. That's what I'm going to do. No, but that's right. So that's my expectation that this is a pretty cool present. It's very thoughtful, an experience that we'll both get to have.

George:

But what happens when or if she goes? Oh no, that's all right, thanks, she's not sure, she's not, she's fucking dead, no, I mean. But I'll say I put a bit of effort and thought and everything behind that. Now I'm sure she'll be very excited, like knowing her and what I'm putting forward. Yeah, she'll have a little bit of positive reaction.

George:

But again, I'm guessing, I'm assuming, that that's going to be her reaction. She might not. She might like oh man, why'd you do that? I just wanted to wait till she came to Melbourne and I'll just go to the concert there. I'd rather you have done this, I'd rather you have done that. Why did you go down that path? So I suppose in that moment I've put in a lot of effort, like it's obviously cost a lot of money to go and do all that. I've tried to be thoughtful in that moment and everything. So I've got an expectation that I've done all these really nice things. I'm expecting her to really be happy with what I've done for her, appreciate it yeah, appreciative, and all that sort of stuff. So if it doesn't happen, then how do I feel?

Robby:

Well, you're going to feel like shit. Yeah, I probably feel pretty bummed. Yeah, you're going to be like what the fuck I?

George:

just did all this and then I'm going to call you up and say, hey, you want to go to see Kylie in Vegas. Yeah, and you're like, fuck it, I don't do it. How good is that? Are you serious? And then you go see Kylie.

Robby:

Fuck them there, because your expectations are going to be like. This guy's probably going to say no.

George:

This guy is going to say no yeah. And then you're just like over the moon and honestly, I'm kind of hoping that this is going to be the way the story goes Right, yeah, how funny, I'm going to call you up like hey hey, do you want to come to Vegas? See Kylie, he's like bro.

Robby:

I thought you'd never ask. In my hand, I'm really going to Vegas, that's it.

George:

Change the name of the ticket.

Robby:

I'm trying to work out how I can get Nicole to start Heading Car and then in the next.

George:

What do I have for weeks? Yeah, you got three weeks.

Robby:

Three weeks, three weeks, start posting propaganda everywhere.

George:

I've got another one I've got a great one actually for you and this happened to us and we were both shitty, you and I. Yeah, last year A lot of stuff happened. A lot of stuff happened. A lot of sick shit happened last year. Last year we had our final event for the year and we did a construction success conference. Okay, we had over 500 guys 500 people register for a free event and we also had paid tickets to that same event, of which 15 people bought tickets for, so about 1500 bucks worth of money coming through the door. When the event landed on the day we hired, we got so many registrations we thought we had a venue booked. We thought, fuck, we've got 500 people registering. We need to go bigger. So we went and changed the venue location based off the registrations that we were getting. Registration day sorry, the day rocks up, we're pumped, we're ready, we're set up. So 50 people rocked up and we've got a room that has the capacity to hold.

Robby:

It was set originally 150.

George:

Yeah, yeah, but we had the capacity to hold. Oh yeah 3,400 each, but we actually pegged it back and put it down to about one person.

George:

Yeah, because we thought, yeah, yeah, that's a really good example, right, and then we had 50 people outside and my life for fuck's sake. Anyway, show must go on. So I think we did a pretty good. Funny thing is we said it was our best presentation on stage. Oh dude, the content we created. I actually had a chip on my shoulder because I'm like I'm going to give these guys the best fucking show they've ever had in their life.

Robby:

Is that the whole expectation conversation? Because the reality is.

George:

Did you not expect more?

Robby:

people. Yes, we did, but were you not, on some level, disappointed as well? Yeah, and the ability. I think this is where it was our ability to do what needed to be done regardless.

George:

And that's what we did, yeah.

Robby:

And we didn't go and put on a half ass show. We didn't go and go out there and we delivered.

George:

I was wrecked at the end of the day, yeah. I was tired. It was a big day. I gave everything and we still made sales and it was still a good event. But we looked at it and go fuck, we were expecting more. We were expecting over 100 people, at least as a minimum, we were expecting 100. At the most. We thought we're going to have to get more chairs, in which we also had the contingency to do.

Other:

If we needed to bring in an extra 50 hundred chairs.

George:

We could have done that as well.

Robby:

We had that ability to do so, yeah we were definitely prepared for that.

George:

Yeah, as I said, unfortunately it didn't go that way, but you look at it and you go all right. Well, still good learnings. We still put our game face on and we delivered and it was still a successful event in that regard, because we still made sales. We're still, the event wasn't at a loss and we can also use that learning in the next one as well.

Robby:

Okay. So I think, because there are people who have had a similar situation and I'll say this I've done this, Dude, I did first time I ever did an event ever yeah. Did a marketing workshop Online or in person? No, no, in person, and I had. This was maybe two, three years ago.

George:

Before.

Robby:

I met him, I reckon before I met him, oh no, yeah, before I met him. Either that or we just met, but we didn't really speak and I did a workshop and I went and I didn't know where to hire a room. I went to the higher rooms, a library.

George:

You know library In a library dude.

Robby:

We're not hired a boardroom in a library.

George:

Do you have to explain?

Robby:

Hey, that's what it says. And I went and hired the board. The library actually closed, so they let me in. And then they closed and I had to get and I had my cousin at the front buzzing people up and I had. I think I had 15 people registered.

George:

Oh registered.

Robby:

Yeah. So I was like I had this little boardroom set up and I was like cool, I got this whole presentation. It was two hour thing, like two hour workshop, free. One person showed up and to some level I got this hard and dude, but I still sat down and I said I reframed it to her. I was like this you're going to have this is like a whole strategy session, just for you to normally charge X amount of dollars for this you know what I mean and you're going to get it for free now because we can actually dive into your business.

Robby:

But yeah, on some level I was disheartened. Do you know what I mean? Like fuck, like okay, that didn't work, like you know what I mean. And then I don't know that again. Well, I wasn't going to go down that exact same route again. No, because it cost me money to do it. It cost me X amount of like you know what I mean? I had to go hi, dude, you got to pay for a room in a library, yeah, and I was like a hundred or 150 bucks, shit room, horrible room. But yeah, on some level there was some level of this hard. And then you get better. And then, when something doesn't go your way, you learn how to use that to do it, because I would say, now for this upcoming event which, by the time this comes out, it'll be done. We're both pretty driven.

Other:

Yeah, to making sure.

Robby:

Yeah, Like okay cool. Now I kind of like this, Like we flipped the script. Yeah, it's like okay cool, you know, now there's, it's kind of a driver now.

George:

And we don't have. We don't actually don't have anywhere near as many registrations as what we did the first time. Well, no, we changed up a lot, I feel we changed up the strategy as far as what the ads were concerned, but I feel that the quality are getting a lot better now. It's more the people we actually wanted. I think we've put previously, I reckon, every dog and his, every man and his dog, every dog and his dog.

George:

Every dog and his man we're registering, yeah, and probably a lot of people who weren't in the niche or the target market that we wanted to come to the event potentially. And also there were other factors like the timing yeah, I think it was a huge contributing factor Massive and I had about 40 people genuinely email through to the team saying sorry, we can't make it. Now, people like that, you're never going to email someone to say sorry you can't make it if you had no intention of coming in the first place. So we probably still had a show rate if all of those people that emailed me, I reckon closer to 80 to 100. Yeah, so we probably, exactly we probably did have that show rate there. I just reckon the time of the year is what killed it the most and probably location. So we learned from those. But still, in that moment, we had the expectation and how cool is it going to be when we get 300 people in a room? We want to fill the room full of 3, 400 people and we would absolutely have crushed it.

Robby:

How do we do stadiums? Sorry, how do we do stadiums? How big a stadiums? Yeah, oh, we're playing so small.

George:

Go call up Swifty, say oh, you need to move your date. Yeah, because that day we're coming in. We're going to show you how it's done, let's go. Let's go. Harvey's on the stage. Yeah, I love the first two hours and then sell to all the Swifties. Get your Amex is ready, proudly bought to you by Swifty.

Robby:

Thank you. Sponsored by Taylor Swift.

George:

Yeah, so in that moment we were both a bit discouraged, both just heartened, but we still went out there and did our thing. Yeah, you know.

Robby:

Yeah, but again I'd put that down to like great. Yeah and training though.

George:

And training. We were trained. Yeah, we knew what to do. We weren't just heartened by it.

Robby:

We were fine. We had lunch there like it was normal.

George:

It was a normal day. Hey, how many motherfuckers would have stopped after that. We're doing it again.

Robby:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and even myself, and it's free, it's another free event Like these shit costs money, it isn't.

George:

It isn't. It's a free event Doesn't mean it doesn't cost me anything.

Robby:

I gave the example of myself, and I've worked with many people who have gone and tried to do what we're doing now, and they didn't get the first leg up. And you know many of them as well. And they didn't get the first leg up. And then they're like stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. And all of a sudden it's like you need to go again. Man, that's not how this works. You can fall, but get up. Yeah, you can't just stay down.

Other:

Yeah.

George:

And I think as well for us. We'd had so many previous successful events, so there was an expectation again that it was going to come up and go. Hey, we've done this. The first one was a great hit. The second, third and fourth one amazing. So this one amazing yeah.

Robby:

It was. Yeah, that was, it was. That was an expectation, do you see? I don't see that as a bad expectation. I have that same expectation now. Yeah.

George:

I have that exact same expectation. I don't think I've got a quarter of the registrations of like every single one of those people.

Robby:

Yeah, I mean do everything to get as many as we can, no, but like, okay, that's a really good, a really good point, that expectation wasn't a bad thing.

George:

Yeah, not at all. Yeah, Not at all. Imagine I'd had the expectation that this is going to be a disaster. I'm scared about my presentation. I don't want to do this. This is a waste of my time. All these free loaders are fucking coming to an event that I'm spending thousands on. What? How's that serving us in any way? So having a that's what I'm saying like having a positive expectation of something like even now, me, I've got, I bought this amazing experience for me and my wife to go on. Why would I think like that? You're laughing because you for me and Robbie.

Other:

For me and Robbie to go on.

George:

But why would I sit there thinking, kylie Thanks for the sponsor, kylie Thanks for the free tickets. But why would I sit there and think this is she's going to hate it, this is going to be shit. I'm going to put that out there in the universe. She's going to, she's going to want to not leave home. You know what I mean? And it doesn't serve me in any way to think like that, because then I'm going to give it to her and I've got that expectation, and then she's like oh, my God, you, this is amazing.

George:

Oh really, I didn't. I didn't think you'd actually want to go. I've kind of already told Robbie, we're going, you know and then that would bring her maybe that would bring her experience down, because I'm the fucking trainer. Do you know what I mean? And say we went into the the, the success conference, with that low expectation, then we would be a drain on that hundred and fifty. Two hundred five hundred people that rocked up to the event.

Robby:

Yeah, Not wanting to, maybe we we wouldn't have made the sale.

George:

So I think in every scenario, having a high expectation is is generally a good thing. Oh, I don't know.

Robby:

I think it's a balancing thing and I think it's a case by case, my opinion, case by case thing. But I think it can ruin particular aspects of life for you.

George:

Afl grand finals you go and support your team. You've got the expectation that you can win. You put everything on it, all your hopes or your dreams. Yes, you'd be shattered, yeah, you'd be shattered. So that's the consequence of it. Can you deal with the consequence? Is the question? You can deal with the consequence you should be fine If you genuinely thought like.

Robby:

So here's. I think we can sometimes think we have an expectation. It's not an expectation because if you genuinely like your team was up, hold on right, if Hawthorne in 2014, 13, whenever they were good was around him. Come on, mate.

George:

I was talking about the most successful team in the last 50 years. Relax.

Robby:

You're right. You're right, but I'm calm, strong and I haven't had a hard run. Maybe this year, this year's, your year. I'm not gonna hope so.

George:

You got low expectations.

Robby:

There's some.

George:

I'm not even talking about it.

Robby:

Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, so in their prime right, we're not 2012.

George:

Yeah, 13, 14, 15 was when they won, so all they got in there to say 13.

Robby:

And in their prime they're playing their best 40 years and then they go in verse second on the ladder and if they win they're gonna be in the top 10. You're not. You're like kind of like my expectation was they're gonna pump this thing they seem to find really poorly. We're unbelievably on fire. Then your expectations gonna win. You're not that pumped about that. But then you win the granny against the top tier team. You're pumped about that. It's almost because it's like because you wanted it to happen but you didn't expect it to happen. Does that make sense? Like there's a level of expectation where you really genuinely expect something. It removes any emotion. You can feel about it Like you. It genuinely removes all emotion If you expect, dude, how much, how much people there is people in the world in a particular country right now that had you poured them a glass of water this clear, this clean, they would be stoked. You do not even get the slightest bit of emotion when clear water comes out of your taps. I get pissed off.

George:

If it's not filtered, you get why spark no fucking bubbles with you? Yeah, what is?

Robby:

this tap water. It's wrong with you. But what is that expectation? Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's like I feel like real expectation leads to disappointment, whereas high hopes, because when you, when your hopes come true, you're wrapped.

Other:

Hmm.

Robby:

Do you mean, like you hope your team wins a granny? There's no. But if you expect your team to beat last on the ladder, you're not wrapped about it. You kind of shitty if they don't.

Other:

Hmm.

Robby:

The fuck true.

George:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Robby:

And then it's like, it's almost like real, genuine expectation removes the emotion from whatever it is that you yeah, because the reality is you don't expect Nicole to do everything you just mentioned.

Other:

Yeah, you appreciate it.

Robby:

Yeah, that's it. Like that's all you just think she's gonna be.

George:

So I'm not getting my my foot rubbed and your juxtapes.

Robby:

No, she's a bit of a racy. I'll look, you might and you'd be wrapped if you're sick, why would you be wrapped? Because?

George:

you didn't have the expectation photo in the show notes.

Robby:

Yeah, how good that. How good with that. The show notes. Just know that by the time you hear this, george has a. He's only worked out whether this is yeah.

George:

Or whether Rob is going to come with me to see color at all Decisions be made. Imagine how funny that would be.

Robby:

You and I call up.

George:

Oi, we can't, kylie, I'll get one ticket Come now. No, I'm saying because it's the dummies, is not? I don't want to go anymore, that's it. I'm a swifty now. I don't do Kylie anymore If I've got a step.

Robby:

I'm a swifty. I'm a swifty If I'm going to step up, or step up Cool If I've got to go to be. So go, imagine what a sick podcast that'll be. We'll end up at the 10 X conference. We'll be the 10 X conference.

George:

We'll be on the main. We'll be on the main stage the 10 X conference. What's your expectation for this podcast?

Robby:

That's a great question.

George:

Do you hope that it's going to be a top 10?

Robby:

podcast you expect expect people to be a top 10 podcast. You expect it to do?

George:

We expect you, we have an expectation Subscribe to the channel and then, if that doesn't happen, they disappointed?

Robby:

Yeah, and if it did, of course I expected it. What else did you think was going to?

George:

happen. Okay, but it's an okay, so you haven't your persistent with this. You know we'll be 20 episodes down. Yeah, are we 19 or 20?

Robby:

I think this is 18 or 19. Shit, 18, 19.

George:

Something like that. Who knows, biggie's not keeping track. He's watching swifty videos 16 17.

Robby:

This is 19.

George:

Yeah, so next one's 20. 1% club yeah, now that's okay so that's like, again, not a fart in the wind for what other people have done. People are up to like thousands, yeah, thousands, and we're doing 20. And I bet you, when they had 20, they're not having that expectation, because it's like you see, all these big podcasts, all of them, they all started, they all did one to 20 at some stage and I guarantee you they didn't have 200,000 followers at that moment, listening to every single word rated number one in the planet.

Robby:

No, it takes time.

George:

It takes time, absolutely, and it's persistence. So let's just say again we'll go back to an example Okay, our conferences. Okay, maybe it does take us 10 free conferences before we get 4,000 fucking people at the event.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean? Let me. Let me give you another contextual example about the podcast. Okay, sick, every now and again someone drops a message, drops a comment, hey guys loving the podcast, blah, blah, blah. And we're like hey, look at this. We always say to each other hey guys, guys.

George:

I want you to know whenever we get a comment, whenever we get a comment, a message, anything, the first one to see it, whether it's in our messages, in the podcast messages, we screenshot it and send it to each other straight away.

Robby:

It's cool, it's cool Check out this mad dog.

George:

Yeah, I'm going to give them a prize, let's give them a prize. Let's get them dinner to gimbal. It's a cool thing, right, or is it? Gimbal, or gimbal, gimlet, gimlet. Let's get them dinner to Gimlet.

Robby:

So okay, now compare, because that's why, because we don't really have an expectation of people of that level. Now, if Joe Rogan did a podcast and someone commented saying, hey, man, like you know really enjoying the pod, what do you think he would do? You think he would feel there's that level of emotion? Do you reckon he screenshots?

George:

it and sends it to his mate. No, it's a chance. Check out these guys Robbie and George.

Robby:

Because he gets thousands of comments on every episode. He would just be like he would freak if he got one comment like one not a million, yeah, not a million and just got one. He'd be like did it load properly? What's going on here?

George:

Imagine if Joe Rogan reached out to us and said oh, he loved the show Freak.

Robby:

You freak. Why? What to do? We're a poll Too much If you're sick? If you're sick, I just book flights. No, just knock out the door. What are you? Doing it's like hey, bro, you like the show. I just wanted to come and say thanks, thanks.

Other:

Let me in Put me on the chair. They'll be so funny, but do you get what I'm saying?

Robby:

That's. And what's the difference there? It's just expectations. It's just. It's not a he thinks he's better than us as a human. It's not he mighta. It's not anything else other than he has a particular expectation about the show based on where he's at. They say you should never meet your heroes.

George:

I'd be Joe Rogan. No yeah, I know, but you know what I, why I say that saying. You know why that saying exists? Because they turn out to be they're not everything you make them out to be. You meet your hero and you're like oh, is that? Is that all?

Other:

Yeah, is that what you like, oh?

George:

yeah, you're a wanker, like I thought you were this high, motivational, great, amazing person, or it's like in Swifties point of view. She's a fucking 15 year old girl little sport brat Maybe and you go there thinking she's the most amazing, mature, strong powered woman, but then she acts like a child because she doesn't get her way. I ordered a salad. Throws the fucking burgerings at the door. I'm sorry. What do you want to burger?

Robby:

Burgerings instead of a salad.

George:

You'd be sure.

Robby:

I'd be sure you've got a salad instead of a burger Wow. Hmm, it's um, it's deep shit. Get to thinking, does all?

George:

start, because how often do you ever think about like when was the last time you had a conversation like this with anybody? Just you know what I mean Myself the other day. That's how. It's further than that.

Robby:

This episode. Well, when you need an exit, I was like I can't wait to tell you this. I'm not going to call him and tell him, or just bring it up on the pod. Yeah.

George:

Um, yeah, it's not often that you have conversations like this or even listen to conversations like this, hmm, you know. So it's good that you guys are listening and getting something out of it, because it makes you think how do you need to be reacting in your life when you do have expectations on things or when things don't go your way, because they very rarely do go the way that you expect them to? Yeah, or in all avenues in business, in life, in everything, there could be something that is happening all the time that is going your way.

Robby:

It has gone your way every single time, but just because you have an expectation, you're not allowing a level of appreciation and gratitude for it. So okay, let's do some home play for everyone.

George:

Home play tonight. When you go to sleep, do something. Be grateful for something that you take for granted. Yeah, something that you expect to be able to do every single day.

Other:

Cook eat, sleep.

George:

Imagine you couldn't sleep. Imagine you're in Somniac but you go to bed every night and you go far, can't wait to get a sleep like a champ. I sleep like a champion too. I really do. My Mrs Hates me for it. She hates me for it. She goes you. It's like you come to sleep, your head hits the pillow and you're out Like a lot. Out like a lot. Yeah, just gone.

Robby:

Um sleep like a champ, yeah.

George:

And, um, you should get a whoop. Do you know how many times that word has come up today? Oh, I've had two separate people go to me today. Oh, I want to, I'm going to get a whoop. If you've heard this new thing whoop, we're going to get one.

Robby:

I'll give him my referral link, though.

George:

Okay, I go I go fucking speak to Robbie, he'll switch out. Seriously, yeah, dead set Both of them, simon and Michael, both on separate occasions.

George:

So I'm picking me up in this morning from home because my car was at the office and he goes, please, he's my driver, he's my driver, he's my fucking little driver. He was the driver that dropped me off the other night, anyway. So he was like no, I'm going to get this whoop thing. Oh, what are you going to whoop for? Man? I would get one. The only reason I don't is I don't want to wear something like it looks like you've got two watches on. Yeah, that's why I don't want to get one.

Robby:

Do you know how many people say to me what's the difference between your watches? And I'm like, well, this one doesn't tell you the time. And then they're like, oh, this one sort of watches that I'm like it's not a watch.

George:

Yeah, I need the sun. Yeah, it's a sundial, it's so funny Brought to you by whoop.

Robby:

A lot of sponsors, a lot of sponsors today. Fourteen sponsors so far today.

George:

Cool man, very cool. Anything else on expectations, or should we just go sideways? I should probably just go sideways on something.

Robby:

Yeah, what are you going to mind?

George:

What do?

Robby:

you have in mind. It's too much.

George:

It's too much. Do you reckon Trump's going to win the election? Yeah?

Robby:

I do too 100%. Who's going to win Biden?

George:

Well, they say the only way he's going to win is if they rig it or if they change. He's sitting in the. They're going to have to. Surely they fucking realize that the guys are lost cause.

Robby:

It kind of feels so, if you.

George:

Biden. Yeah, I don't know why do you?

Robby:

Just an old man, so he's always lived a good life. Yeah, I've got a fear of getting old, you know what though?

Robby:

I've got a fear of getting old, you do. Yeah, that's what drives me now, cause I want to get old and know that, knowing that my death isn't, I want to solve my. I'll do this more now than ever. Yeah, I've mentioned this before. I want to solve my grandparents. The other day I just solved my grandma and grandpa's. Now, every time I look at them, I think you guys get a bed, not knowing if you're going to wake up tomorrow. Like there's a, it's possible.

George:

Yeah, or the next day is your last.

Other:

Yeah, like you have no idea in the world, take a good go, or whatever.

Robby:

Yeah, anything could happen, like at that sort of age and I think about thinking like that, like how can I? I think now so far in advance, like I think about 10 years and 20 years and they can't do that. Imagine that. Imagine your biggest thing is like how do you start living, like if you don't know if you're going to be here?

Robby:

in six months, let alone six weeks, and I've got a fear of having unmet needs at that age in the sense of, like unfinished business, nothing's guaranteed Nothing. I could be walking back to my car after this podcast and get hit by a bus.

George:

Well, your battery doesn't start. Oh, your battery's flat no I replaced it.

Robby:

Oh, did you yeah.

George:

Flip.

Robby:

I would have flip, came back in and did a podcast about batteries and took a, so sideways. But yeah, I feel sorry for all the people. I've got a soft spot for him. That's why I feel sorry for Biden, because he looks like he's got no idea what the fuck's happening.

George:

Yeah, but then maybe he should have the foresight to go. You look, I'm no longer the Doesn't know what's going on. I'm no longer the best person to. Well, then, fucking someone should step in. And so you're no longer the best person. We've lost confidence in your ability to fucking command the most powerful nation on the planet. They're going to do that, do you know?

Robby:

what I mean. That's what the expectation is.

George:

Yeah, they have to, otherwise they'll never have a shot, because the guy's seen all. Trump's got too much of a hold on it.

Robby:

Now there's no way he can't Like, he can't lose the only way they can make him lose is if it's genuine, if it's swiftly, steps in and out.

George:

Swiftie backs Biden, backs Biden.

Robby:

That's. That's two powerful people, huh Swift and Trump.

George:

They were saying that even the rock. At one stage they were putting his name out there to run for president. The funny thing is he would win.

Robby:

The rock would win, yeah.

George:

As if the rock was going against anyone. Here he's the people's what's he? People's champ. Yeah, people's champ, but I'm just saying from a Like. His brand is so powerful and so is Trump's, but he's got. I think he'd just be able to control the masses and say what they need to say here.

Robby:

Why do you think the rock's brand so powerful?

George:

Because he's built it over the last.

Robby:

You know he is not. I'm begun.

George:

You were saying that the other day. When he's not, he doesn't polarise anyone.

Robby:

Yeah, no one hates him. Yeah, like he doesn't have people that disagree Because he doesn't stand for anything.

George:

Well, I remember, you know Logan Paul. Yeah, he did something. Yeah, what did he do to get kicked off YouTube?

Robby:

He went to the you don't Do you know?

George:

No, no, I'm asking.

Robby:

He did the Japanese suicide rainforest. You know what I'm saying? No, so in Japan there's a rainforest, I don't know what it's called. It's referred to as a suicide rainforest. Yeah, reason-wise, because a lot of time people go there to hang themselves. Yeah, and they went to look at this rainforest and there was someone there that had just hung themselves.

Other:

Yeah right.

Robby:

Like in the last hour, yeah, and then they went next to him and they were taping and then he starts laughing. I've watched the whole video, oh, I know you should. He was laughing. He hate you. You can see I'm not supporting what he did, but you can see in his thing that it was more shock than it. Like literally he's giggling right next to a dead person, dude that's freshly dead, like just hung themselves within the last hour and I didn't know.

George:

That's what it was.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, and he's sitting there laughing. And then he got absolutely slanted to do that and he had to pull the video. You can find the video, yeah, just everywhere.

George:

Internet's forever.

Robby:

Yeah, Then there's nothing Like the person's face has blurred out. You can't see the dead person's face.

George:

But they still loaded that Like you don't have to, You're fucking.

Robby:

Yeah, he uploaded it. Yeah, he obviously didn't think that one through.

George:

Yeah, but he was obviously doing it for the wrong reasons. But I remember at the time that Logan Paul, I think, was saying this on his podcast, where he did something with the rock and then the rock's people came to him and said look, we can't be affiliated with you for this reason. So you know, I hope you understand Because of what he did. Yeah, yeah, and I think that was years later too. It wasn't like he had just started to come back and he's like look, we can't be affiliated with what you and what you're doing at the moment.

Robby:

Yeah, you know what I actually recall reading something particular about that as well.

George:

So it probably does have a group of people that's Steers him clear of controversial stuff. Of course, everyone at that level would do it, yeah.

Robby:

You reckon like Christiane and all. So the rock is one of the top 10. We had this conversation on it About the rock. About the top 10.

George:

The most followed people on Instagram. We could do that next episode, yeah pretty cool episode. And talk about each person and what we think about it.

Robby:

Yeah, the rock is number one, One of the three or four males in the top 10.

George:

Yeah it doesn't surprise me. He's still like. I mean, he was cool in the wrestling days and he's made some good movies. He's made a lot of action type movies. He's entertaining he's. You like his movies? I wouldn't I'm not going to put it to you to go and watch one. I don't think he's.

Robby:

I've seen one. I've seen one. They're entertaining. I've watched a lot of them. I've seen Jumanji.

George:

No, it's actually an all right movie. Like it was entertaining. You know what I mean. He makes those types of movies. He's not winning an Oscar anytime soon, you know what I mean. So, but yeah, I reckon Trump's got it in the bag. I reckon you're right. I would vote for him if I was in America and I was a citizen.

Robby:

I don't know enough about politics too. So from what I've, seen on the outside, I probably would I just like how he hammers people.

George:

Hammers them and doesn't give a fuck. Hammers them.

Robby:

I watched this thing, the other day and he was handling the media like an absolute champ.

George:

Gave it to the sweaty gay. There's so many fucking people that don't yeah he just doesn't care, but that Look, I kind of like that, you know what I mean, which part? Of it that he has the balls to stand up there and call someone a fucking idiot when they're a fucking idiot. I mean not in that language. Could you imagine a politician doing anything like that here?

Robby:

No, they're too good. That's because they're too trying to stay yeah.

George:

They're too PC, they're too. Yeah, we live in a world.

Robby:

That's way too PC. Way too much, yeah, way too much. Can't say anything, can't do anything. Don't do this. That might upset people, but it yeah.

George:

Sick. Well, what a great episode that was. That's a good episode. We did go a little bit sideways at the end there.

Robby:

I like it. It's nice.

George:

Thanks for listening. Guys Appreciate you sticking around. Thank you to all our sponsors for today's episode. Yeah, we really appreciate it.

Robby:

We'll send you the contracts.

George:

Yeah, we'll send you the contracts, the EFT details. We also accept PayPal and checks, bank check.

Other:

Bank checks are still massive in.

Robby:

America do you know that Google Pay and?

George:

Apple Pay oh yeah, Cool Google Pay. People still write checks in America. Do you have a checkbook?

Robby:

What I've got, a checkbook I've never I wouldn't even know. I once cashed a check once, yeah, and so it was a check to cash.

George:

Yeah, I wrote a check. I think it was a couple of years back. I've got a fine from council and they said you can pay by credit card, which is that EFT, paypal or check. I'm like your mother fuckers, and this was for work. They find me for a dirty road or some shit like that. I'm like, okay, you mother fuckers, you think you're going?

Robby:

to get one up on me. They find PASCON.

George:

Yeah, they find PASCON, because the construction site, the road.

Other:

In series.

Robby:

Yeah, the road was dirty outside we supposed to do wash the road.

George:

Yeah, it was supposed to be. It was okay. There was a bit of dust there that we supposed to be had to always clean. Anyway, it was fine. Still want me to take up shit. But it was 500 bucks. So I thought, fuck, yeah, I'm going to send you a check. So I wrote them a check, posted it in the mail just to get the satisfaction of them. Some person, millennial opening that up and going what do I do with this?

Robby:

What do I do here? How do I make this? How?

George:

do I scan the QR code Like where is it I had to get? They had to pay someone to walk to the bank. Can you put this in our account please? Yeah, take that. Take that.

Robby:

You know couldn't run Check. I want to know how.

George:

I'll teach you after this podcast.

Robby:

Yeah, I can't wait.

George:

Thanks for listening, guys. As always, if you've got any value out of today, please subscribe, pass it on to a friend, tag us in your favorite moment, shoot us a message, whatever it might be, because that's how we can grow this audience, that's how we can really affect some change and how we can make a difference in this world.

Robby:

You've got to introduce yourself to top George more often.

George:

This is Well. This is top George signing out Top.

Robby:

George, Top George checking out Top George out of here. Yeah, like review, do all that stuff and See you next week. We'll see you next week, thanks, guys, Thanks guys. Don't forget to subscribe to the channel and thanks for watching.

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