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Has our fast-paced world made us too quick to pop a pill at the first hint of mental strife? This episode shatters the silence on the medication of our minds as we embark on a crucial exploration of mental health's tangled web. We scrutinise the readiness to prescribe antidepressants, dissect the potential for misuse, and shine light on the delicate dance between acknowledging mental health struggles and succumbing to a culture of victimhood. Grapple with us as we analyse the increased identification with the LGBTQ community among students, and how this shift interweaves with education's role in shaping identity and mental health.
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Are we aiming high enough for our health and happiness, or merely avoiding discomfort? In our concluding thoughts, we challenge the status quo, urging listeners to strive for exceptional health. We discuss the importance of proactive health management, critical thinking in the age of information overload, and the power of second opinions in crafting a life of excellence. Join us on this journey of reflection and discovery, where we dare to push the boundaries of what it means to be truly healthy and content.
So the topic we wanted to talk about today was mental health, and it's something that's relevant in really any life or industry. I don't think it's specific.
Robby:Mental health is real. You need to look after yourself. Make sure you're mentally okay. It all matters.
George:But your thoughts are the most powerful thing. If people knew how powerful your thoughts were like you'd never think about thought again for the rest of your life.
Robby:That's how powerful they are, the most powerful thing.
George:No, you need to be resilient sometimes because it builds character. If you've got the calluses and you've trained and you've gone through those difficult things, when they do come up again in the future, it's not going to be as bad, it's real.
Robby:Yeah, it's a real thing, yeah, yeah, but do we not overvalue it? But do we? Are we giving people an easy way out?
George:What's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of Million Dollar Days. I hope you're having a million dollar day. I am Top George and I'm joined with a friend colleague, an esteemed gentleman and scholar, mr Robert.
Robby:Chacar, what a fantastic introduction. It's good, isn't it? I love it. Getting better at him. I feel like he's getting very comfortable. I am. I like it.
George:I am. I'm in my happy place.
Robby:This is you. Honestly, I look forward to this part of the show. I look forward to this part of the week. So much, yeah, it's good. It's almost too much.
George:I don't know, you guys are too.
Robby:Yeah, I was saying that. To plant the seed.
George:Nice, what's cracking man?
Robby:Oh, you know a bit of this, a bit of that.
George:What's cracking crackers? Another day, another episode. Thanks for joining us, pump, to be here, as always. Today we're going to cover a topic which is talked about a lot, you reckon, I think more so now yes 100%.
Robby:It's definitely talked about a lot, but I think also is it talked about in the right fashion.
George:I don't know. I think there's. I don't know if it's. Let's actually tell everyone what the topic is.
Robby:Let's just keep it hanging. You want to keep it hanging?
George:Well, I don't think it's approached the right way, that's for sure. I think people are too quick to go down a certain path to help them with this problem.
Robby:Yes, I agree.
George:Good. So the topic we wanted to talk about today was mental health, and it's something that's relevant in really any life or industry. I don't think it's specific. Yes, there's more stressful roles in business and in life than others, and scenarios for sure, but ultimately it comes down to the individual and how it reacts on them, doesn't it?
Robby:Yeah, I look, I'm going to preface what I'm going to say by saying this it's real.
George:Yeah.
Robby:It's a real thing, yeah, yeah, but do we not overvalue it? But do we? Is it? Are we giving people a an easy way out? Potentially?
George:Yeah, potentially so, if you haven't guessed already. Oh, we've already told the topic.
Both:Yeah.
George:Yeah, potentially.
Both:What were you doing? You told it.
George:Yeah, exactly, potentially, potentially. So yeah, as you said, it's definitely a real thing. It's more. I was, I was speaking to someone a while ago, late last year, and we're talking about mental health and I think very a lot of people when they say, when they see, say mental health, it's like okay, well, let's get on anti-depressants. Yes, all right, it's like the very first thing. And you know what? You'd probably be surprised how many people are on it and you wouldn't even know Anti-depressants yeah.
Robby:Yeah.
George:I reckon there's a lot of people that are on it that that you wouldn't even have any idea about, and I am one that I don't think. Okay again, I don't know where I am in my life, but I don't think I would ever be in a position where I'd want to take anti-depressants and that's not judging anyone that does. I'm just saying from my own perspective. As hard as life has been or may get in the future, I don't think I would ever jump on that aspect. And the conversation I was having with someone is like anti-depressants are just a bandaid and you're just masking the real underlying issue instead of really working on getting rid of it and living either with it or moving on from it.
Robby:I 100% agree. You're not actually fixing the problem at hand, You're just no, I liked it. Your bandaid's a great analogy. I like to say you're numbing it. Yeah, do you know what I mean. It's like if you get headaches every day and you just keep taking. You're like I'm going to buy a neurophone and bulk. It's like that doesn't fix the problem. Dude, like you know what I mean. If you're getting headaches every day, you need to work out what's causing the headache, and anti-depressants don't allow you to do that.
George:And it's something that you can get addicted to as well.
Robby:Oh, dude, have you seen the thing? The American stats. I think it's like one in every five women is under an anti-depressant. That's massive.
George:Trillion dollar industry. You know what I mean. Just from that drug alone. Big pharma, yeah, that's it.
Robby:So we're doing it from industry.
George:So, yeah, I think it's, and it's become the norm too. It's like I just have some anti-depressants, just have that, you'll be fine. And then people get hooked on it. It was actually on a TV show a couple nights back where they were saying people are getting hooked on anti-depressants and now can't get off it, or having severe withdrawals from trying to stop getting off these things because they're full on it. It fucks with your head.
Robby:Oh yeah, it's full on.
George:It's a physical addiction, yeah, yeah. So the thing is, I think it's an easier solution. It's an easier fix than facing the problem head on, then trying to deal with it, and it's probably a quicker fix too, at least in the short term where you can take it and go crawl up to your numb or feel better yeah. Yeah, Whereas opposed to sitting down and going through heaps of therapy or whatever it might be, dealing it with yourself in your own way. That's a lot of a that's a longer process and it's harder to do.
Robby:Yeah, I agree. I here's my, here's my. I don't want to call it a dispute, but here's where I what I don't like about how we speak about mental health. I feel like we give people an out too easily. I feel like I'll give you an example, just for context. Mental health is real. You need to look after yourself, make sure you're mentally okay. It all matters.
George:But your thoughts are the most powerful thing. If people knew how powerful your thoughts were like, you'd never think a bad thought again.
Robby:For the rest of your life. Yeah, that's how powerful they are the most powerful thing. But here's my issue with it in the way we handle it as a society, not in its, it's a thing. It's not not saying it's not a thing, it's a thing, but the way we handle it as a society. Here's my issue. I feel like we bring it up so much, so much that people I used to work with a guy and he was he was a shit worker dude, like you know people with a shit worker. I think he was like that. He didn't have a good work ethic. He was very victim guy. You know, being in the same role for ages, had not progressed at all and he used to every now and again be like I'm going to take a day off tomorrow. I'm like what?
Both:are you?
Robby:doing Like mental health day and I'm like that's such a, you're paying the mental health card and I don't like that. I feel like it is a big.
George:And that's you as a fellow employee. You weren't even the business owner.
Robby:Yeah, I was like this guy's a dud. Yeah, no, no, dude. Look, if he was genuinely trying, every this guy would drink every night. This guy would do you know what I mean? He was not, didn't eat clean, didn't work hard. He'd be gone by three, four o'clock every day and it was like you don't try and make your life better in any way at all, like you could dude. He could have did so well. Like he was a. This was in real estate and he was a fairly well-known person in the area, but he was just so done and so victim-like and I don't like the way we give people an out too easily, you know, and is it a? Are we bringing it to awareness more or is it a? We're making people think about it and therefore they think they have?
George:I think it's definitely. A level of awareness is greater now than what it ever has been in the past. Yeah, without a doubt. You know, if my parents walked into work and said, hey, I need to mental health day, yeah, they would have got bashed. They would have. They would have been shown the door and say, yeah, cool, just check your mental health at door and don't come back. Yeah, that's what it would have been. But so then it definitely has come full circle. As far as now, anything that's it's like almost as soon as something is hard or difficult or stress, as you said, it gives you that excuse to go. Well, you know, this isn't good for me. I'm just going to check out.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, and I need to get my mental and like and there's a level of you need to understand that that life's hard, life's not easy.
George:Yeah, yeah, it's not easy. Lifeing, lifeing. I'm going to, I'm going to trademark that Lifeing, lifeing, it's not easy, it's hard. There are difficult things in your life. There's, there's. You need delayed gratification on things You've got to work for it. It has to be hard, ache.
George:There has to be blood, sweat and tears to achieve certain things in your life, and I think too many people, as you have said, will just go down the path oh well, that's not good for me and my mental space, so I'm not going to do that.
George:No, it's going to be resilient sometimes because it builds character and when more difficult things come up in the future which they will it doesn't stop. It's not like, oh, I experienced that difficult time in my life. Thank God that's over and I never have to go through anything like that ever again because something's going to come up. Yeah, and if you're, if you've got the calluses and you've trained and you've gone through those difficult things, when they do come up again in the future, it's not going to be as bad. You're going to be so much better and resilient and a better person and be better for the people around you for having gone through a difficult thing. So I believe every person, particularly men, need to have difficulties in their life, because it builds character, it builds resilience, it builds that unwavering belief that, no matter what happens, not even this can stop me.
Robby:Yeah, also, when you do. I heard this sick, really cool saying, where it was something along the lines of when you do hard things on purpose, everything else becomes easy. Do you know what I mean. And then the things that come up that would have other work, because it's like kind of like you're setting the bar or you're setting a standard. Do you know what I mean? And if you can get up and you can go for a run when you don't want to, or go to the gym, or have a cold shower, ice bath or whatever it is.
Robby:you know what I mean. Whatever works for you and you can do that to kick off your day, it allows everything else to sort of. Everything else becomes like. It's like everything else compared to that start is like down here, now, you know, and it just becomes easier from there. It just becomes the flow on effect and I feel like we give people, I feel like we overcorrect it. I feel like we overcorrect as a society and I feel like we give people to a way out, because when people have the easy way out, they'll take it yeah, path of least resistance.
Robby:And I feel like that's what's happening with that at the moment. Yeah, generally the, because it's never dude, it's never the person who's grinding, it's never the person who is, you know, has a high work ethic, or like that person never their shape of their life has.
Robby:You know he's doing everything right or she is doing everything right. It's never that person. It's always the one who is having macros for lunch and does no exercise at all and their sleeping pattern is a mess, and you know what I mean. They're not looking after their basic and then they'll take it.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:And it's like you're not doing the foundational things right and then you go and you take this drug. Yeah, I'm trying to work out how do I say it without sounding like a dick.
George:Okay, let's let's put this into content Sound like a dick and just everyone understand that he's not a dick. Do you know what I mean? So say it, but just understand that we're we're just having the discussion about everything that's going to be that this whole topic, because it is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.
Robby:It is yeah.
George:You either experience it or know someone that is someone close to you that is Still thinking of the of another word.
Robby:Yeah, I'm just trying to get the the sourcecom. Put it into words. That's sourcecom. Can I use your account? Yeah, it's giving you my login details. It's top George, it's top George Hotmail.
Robby:Um, it's like cause there's a line, yeah, there's a line between mental health and then mental illness. But my, my I think the sputes the right word here or my issue, my issue with it. My issue with it is this it's a fact that when we raise and I'm not saying we should never raise awareness around this, but I'm saying that when you put something at the forefront consistently, when you, what you focus on, expands, yeah. So if you constantly believe that something is going to happen to you, there's a good chance it will, yeah. And if you consistently focus on these things that aren't great and consistently put them in front of you know. I'll give you another example. This is a great.
Robby:It's, uh, something else that society's done that's shown you and you can see the I saw this the other day LGBTQ, yeah, previous generation. So what's, what's the current Gen Z? Whatever it is, it's the one that's like in the workforce now, like they've come into the workforce from the last sort of five years Prior to that. Millennials, one out of every 20, I think it's either one out of every 20 or 1%. I think it's 1% of millennials uh, were LGBTQ, whether it was the lesbian, gay, bi or trans, whatever. So now, gen Z. So the current generation that's come into the workforce, where, where they grew up in a time where it has been so put in front of them, this was this was a study done in the US, by the way uh, where it was put so much in front of them. You know, they experienced it more in school.
Robby:Like, I didn't get. Did you get taught in school? No, never. Yeah me, though. Um, but now they it's full on in schools. Yeah, and they got taught in schools, and now one out of every five identifies as either LGBT or queer. So, like, from 1% or one in 20, whatever it was, it was much smaller number to one in five, 20%. That's what it was. Sorry, it was 1% to 20%. So it went from 1% identified as a to 20% to now identify as either lesbian, gay, bisexual or trans, and it's like what's changed, apart from us raising the level of awareness? What's changed? Do have we? Have we? Have we changed as humans? Like, have we biologically changed? Not really.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:In 20 years. We won't change that much. Biology happens, uh uh. Evolution happens over thousands and millions of years. So what's changed? Nothing. They just started putting it more at the forefront of your mind and people started to relate to it. That's right.
George:And they were like well, I'm different, oh well, then I must be the plus or the Q or whatever it is, because and that's exactly my issue with um, with that as well it's like when they start using pronouns like I think I've said this in a previous episode like I will never, ever disclose my pronouns. If someone asked me to disclose my pronouns, I'm going to leave the room, like it's not a place I want to be in.
Robby:If you can't figure it out. Yeah, you told me yeah, and I left and I was like this is fucked.
George:It's just silly, I don't. I see it's such. What a just ridiculous concept. But the fact that if you're teaching that at schools, like then, you are putting an idea into someone.
Robby:Yeah, yeah.
George:The time now I feel a bit different. Oh well then, I must be a them or whatever. I must be a cat. I must be a hose, like whatever you're going to be?
Robby:You probably just need to eat. Yeah, you probably just hungry.
George:Yeah. So yes, I, I definitely think there is that element of it and people I reckon the vast majority of people don't think like that, believe it or not.
Robby:I think the very the higher majority of people. There is a lot 20%, 21 in five.
George:Yeah, but still one in four don't but the other. What I hate about that aspect.
George:Yeah, yeah, but the other aspect of it as well. It's like if you don't feel that way, like even us having this conversation like this right now, if we had that in front of someone that's far left, they would fucking lose their mind. Lose their mind, all right, lose their absolute mind and say we're bigots, we're, you know, we're homophobes, whatever you want to call us, but it's not, it's just fact. I'm a logical person. You can't turn around and just change because you feel a certain way that makes it makes it so. It's not true, it's not a real thing. Now, when coming back to what you're saying, because I think the whole point of what you're saying is you know, if the government or the school started putting out stuff about networks are inferior to Australians, like that's a thing, now do you know what I mean? Then eventually it would become a belief.
George:That's a thing I'm just saying no, no, I'm just saying, if that was something ridiculous, but say they brought out an idea and then just planted that and then started teaching the curriculum. It's ideal to you, right, yeah, and are they?
Both:planting in your head.
Robby:Everything, everything is planted in your head dude, how much of what you got taught do you question? Most people don't question anything. When I was in school, they're like, oh yeah, the sky's blue because it's because of gases.
Both:One plus one is two. Is this?
Robby:Yeah, one plus one must be two. Yeah, you didn't question it. They're teaching us this. You didn't question it.
George:And if you did, you were like what's wrong with you?
Both:Yeah, why? Why are you normal?
George:Why could you? This is no stopping difficult and learning the curriculum.
Robby:Okay, so here's my, here's my issue with it. It's just come to my mind now that you've said that the way we've handled this is the way we've handled the LGBTQ thing, and all we've done, all we do at the moment is we raise awareness around it, and I feel like and I don't know the stats, so if I'm wrong here, deal with it we haven't made it better. Do you feel like we made it better? No, I wouldn't say so it's a suicide rate. I'm pretty sure suicide rates are not down.
George:No, Like things you know what I mean.
Robby:They're probably up if anything we haven't raised, just raising awareness around. This hasn't fixed the problem at hand.
George:It's not exactly right. People are not being proactive, in sense. That's not giving the solution, it's just highlighting the problem.
Robby:Dude, that's what I'm saying. And it's like I saw this Ted talk. I saw a snippet of it and it was an Asian guy. He was just like in an old. I don't know what that Asian thing is, but do you know what I'm talking about, like that old sort of uniform thing. I don't know what it's called. Anyway, if I find it I'll link it. I'm not going to link it and he talks about how back in the day he says his people they live in like a very cultural lifestyle. I think.
Robby:I've seen this and he talks about how he is. Yes, my people don't have time to be depressed.
George:Yes, I've seen this.
Robby:You know, we don't have time to sit there and consider this ideology or whatever you want to call it. We don't have time to even think about that. We need to go and our focus is on getting through. You know what I mean.
George:And it's like Is he like a monk or something Maybe yes, I don't know.
Robby:I don't know if he was. I don't know if he was.
George:Something like that I saw this clip.
Robby:Something old school, yeah, some sort of something, I'm not sure, yeah, but you've probably seen it?
George:I definitely have. Yeah, I love the concept of what he was saying and what he was saying.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, we don't have time for that like then I have time to sit there and say, dude, so much it's gone up. Like I, when I was in real estate and covered here they I was probably six months into covered, I reckon around June I was pretty flat. Yeah, I was flat. And the place I've worked at had a you know, there's employee assistance programs, yeah, so I said I call, let me call. It was like a psych or something. So I was like I'll call them and I'm just have a chat. And then I call and they put me on to this lady and I was like, hey, and she was like and I was just unmotivated, yeah, compared to how I normally am, I wasn't like wouldn't get out of bed or anything, I just was not like I wasn't pumped, yeah, and I called this lady and I have a chat with her and then she Start telling me that I'm depressed.
Both:Depressed Hmm.
Robby:And I'm like thinking to myself what? And she's like, yeah, it's okay, it's okay to feel like this, like it's okay, you know what I mean. And trying to get me to acknowledge that I'm depressed. And I never called her back because I thought you're tripping, you're depressed and you're trying to make like if I had a bad mindset of I wasn't mentally strong in that moment, she may have been able to influence me and convince me that I was depressed and I could have went home and sat there, wow, and bought into. I'm depressed.
Both:Yeah, I must be depressed, I'm going through depression.
Robby:What do I do Get?
George:some sannics. Yeah, it's a, they'll say. You know, it's a chemical imbalance in your brain, isn't that disgusting, dude? Like I think a lot of that's happening. And this is another thing. It's like a lot of GPs and this was on the program that I watched the other night saying a lot of GPs are referring Antisapresence to patients. So yeah, but you're not a psychologist, like you're not sitting down with that person and you know, trying to go through that root cause of what's causing it.
Robby:Keep these have no idea dude.
George:I know they're they're general practitioners Like they're going over everything and go, okay, yeah, he'll give you this prescription, go have it half a day, once a day, whatever it is. And then you know people are getting on it and feeling good for the short term and not fixing anything in the long term.
George:That's the biggest problem with it. And yeah, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're. There you go. You've just hit that nail in the head. I think there's going to be a lot of scenarios that are like that.
George:Now, not to say that there are genuinely people out there that haven't had traumatic experiences, where they're mentally affected by that and suffer from their past experiences to leading to where they are today. And then potentially they you know all their actions and everything they do that follow thereafter just lead into a spiral downwards, like your mate at the that used to work with at the real estate. He would drink and then drinking would lead into not rocking up at work or having a mental health day, or leading to drugs, drugs, or then, you know, just drowning his sorrows in everything and then him coming to work and then seeing all this stuff, like you're saying it's everywhere and and you know beyond blue and and calling all these people to help you to get you through this difficult thing, and like I'm not saying any of these platforms are bad, but he'll get bored into that and go cool. Oh yeah, I'm depressed, I'm suffering, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this, but then where's? Where's the?
George:The end point, like, if I have a headache, yeah, I'm going to take some panadol, but I'm not taking it for the next six days. I'll take it once and then I'll move on and my headache will go away. Or I'll realize I'm not drinking enough water or I didn't get enough sleep last night or I'm overworked. Like I listened to your body. What's the plan to not be on that? On the antidepressants, and I think that's what people are lacking.
George:Maybe it is a combination of doing the speaking to someone and getting that, that assistance, from there, but what's the plan to then eventually go to them? Okay, on this day we're done Like no more. After that you're going to have the skills, the tools, the means to not be on assisted medication for your mental health.
Robby:Yeah, A good, a good psychologist will do that yeah.
George:And do you think there are ones that are not good?
Robby:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do Sadly.
George:Because it's also a business forum too. The longer you're there getting treatment, the more money they're making. Yeah, because it's like consistent, repotient.
Robby:Hmm, it's a flawed model, isn't it?
George:Well, it's also something I've heard in the past as well. If you don't, depression isn't real yeah, if you don't believe in it, how could you believe it to be real? If you don't believe that being depressed is possible, then how could you be depressed?
Robby:See, that's the thing. Had I imagined. I believed that lady like imagine I actually bought it into what she was saying and I was like you must be right, like you must be, I must be.
George:I must be depressed. You're a professional, hey, you're a professional.
Robby:Yeah, you know what you're doing, you're qualified, you must be right. I must be depressed. And then I went and bought into all that, like that could have taken me down a whole different path, all because someone put a label on you or identify. That's what I'm saying. This is, this is my issue with it. It's with everything, though it's the easy way out.
George:Imagine if this is what, like. Your words are so powerful too and and can mean a lot as well. If I kept telling you that you're a failure and you bought into that like it's what you're going to grow up to be as a kid. If I kept saying you're a failure, you're a dud, you're no good, what are you going to grow up to be the?
George:chances are, you probably will grow up to be a failure because you won't believe that you can do anything great. Or if you're hearing that from your spouse, your parents, your brother, your sister, your friends you're a dud, you're a loser, you're this, you're this, you're this.
Robby:Well, I can't take the word dud. I know I use it a lot.
George:But that's what you'll end up becoming part of your belief system and you need to break that. You need to break that belief system. People don't think people genuinely will believe they will never make a million dollars in a day. They will never make a million dollars one day, they just don't believe it in a year.
Both:They don't think that's in the realm of their possibility of being able to achieve that's right.
George:And because they have that mindset, guess what? They're never going to achieve those things. There are people out there that make a million dollars a minute and you're concerned about not being able to make it in a year, in 10 years. But if your belief system doesn't change around that, well then, yes, that's what's going to be your reality, and I try to look at it from that perspective as well. There's nothing. Just because you're sad or upset doesn't make you depressed. Yeah, you can have that's a feeling Like you can have that. That's an emotion you are not.
Robby:That, that's right. You're not sad, you're feeling sad.
George:Have you been depressed in the past?
Robby:I have felt depressed yeah.
George:When you say depressed, so would you think it was more a sadness or an intense emotion, or would you actually say now I was in a bad place? When I say bad place, like not in a regular place, doesn't have to be suicidal or anything like that.
Robby:See I, it's hard to what's. What is depression? I don't know that's.
George:That's a thing yeah, I don't even know how to describe it because it's going to be very different for very, very bad.
Robby:That's what I'm saying. Like. Have I felt flat in the past? Yeah. Have I felt a little bit lost? Yeah, have I felt unhappy with particular things or parts in my life?
George:Yeah, I know that everyone's going to go through that. Yeah, that's what I mean. Life is hard. It's not going to be easy. You're always going to come across something like that, even when you hit the pinnacle. Dude one of my, one of a family friend of mine, like has everything you could ever think about in his life, like hundreds of millions of dollars, everything, world at their feet, like nothing was a no to them, nothing. And then they had the passing of a child.
Robby:Yeah.
George:And it's like do you know what I mean? Everything can go away in that instant. Now how do they deal with that? You know? And that's that's something that if that was to ever happen to me again touch wood I just don't even know what would happen and how I would be. I couldn't give you that answer. I couldn't give you that answer right now. I would like to think that, like, obviously you'd be destroyed and at the worst thing, I just I don't know, would I be able to get up out of bed? Don't know, but I want to keep going. Yeah, time will pass everything. Like time, as I say, heals all wounds. But and I would try and find purpose in other things, because I still have a life, I still have family, yeah, I still have people I love and care for. It's not fair that I give up on myself for that of others, and I think that's what drives me too. You know, ultimately, that's what drives me. Is other people that rely on time to me Something outside of yourself, oh yeah.
George:And maybe that's another thing too. Maybe these people don't have purpose. They feel that they've lost their purpose and their identity in that regard, and that's where they buy into okay, well, I'm useless, I'm this, I don't have this, I've got these problems, I'm no good.
Robby:So is it Okay? I agree, but is it that people are actually? Why is it higher now than ever? Like, do you think people are losing purpose now more than ever? No, then why is it higher now than ever? Why is?
George:it higher now than ever. Well, it comes back to what the monk was saying.
Robby:All right, they didn't have time, like they had to go and hunt for food or they had to build a house, and that's right, but I'm talking about higher than ever, than it was, like 40 years ago, yeah.
George:But let's go back 40 years ago.
Robby:Yeah, like you're still 70s yeah 70s, 80s, like you still have to. He believed the 70s was 50 years ago, dude.
George:Bro, I was born in 84. Yeah, I'm 40 this year. What was I saying? Yeah, so go back that time. That's not that long ago. But there was definitely more requirement on the individual to live, in the sense that they had to go and do difficult things to get through the day and they wouldn't necessarily be buying into. I'm depressed on this.
Robby:You still have to do difficult things. Yeah, I know, it's just that people are being given, that's right.
George:That's the message that's being sent, yeah, whereas that was never there before.
Robby:I feel a bit shit. I mustn't, maybe I don't, maybe I need to have a day off and have a mental health day, and I me personally I don't agree with that. I don't agree. I think if you buy into the easy route out when things get hard, you will always take that route. You know what I mean. You know what I do, dude. When I feel shit, I go for a run Like I'll go and do something. And don't get me wrong, I don't sit there, I feel shit, can't wait to get a run. I have to force myself to go and get up and I'll hate it. But go break a sweat and go have a cold shower, go do something physical. That's going to disrupt the way you feel and see how you feel in an hour.
Robby:Hmm you know, and it's easy, said and done Absolutely this one. But just get up and don't negotiate with yourself and Honestly, I can and I actually told us this, had this conversation on some on the other day I can almost always now pick myself up when I'm in a wrap.
Both:Hmm.
George:That's, that's. That is a massive Advantage and skillset.
Robby:I've done it heaps. That's why not? Because I just just one day.
Robby:Yeah, because I've done it and I've done it and do it just being days where I've tried it and I've gone for a run and I'm still feel flat. I'm just like unmotivated or cannot, like to have to do something and don't want to do it. And you know I mean all you're avoiding that, putting off that task that you know that you need to do, that call that you need to make, and you just in a shitty down mood the whole time. Yeah, but I would never Give myself the out of my mental health. Hmm, I would say I can't call. How am I gonna fix this? Yeah, and I was more solution focused. Yeah, do you know me? Yeah, what am I gonna do? Do I need to do like Last year I would do.
Robby:There was so much shit happening. I was like, dude, I'm just gonna disappear into the bush for three days. Yeah, and I did. I'm gonna buy myself and went and camp for three days on my own in the bush, no signal, and just spent three days. No, I came back felt as fresh as anything. No, in bucks, yeah, I mean, but it's not to say every time you feel a little bit flat, go do that. But like Take, do something, man. Like take, you know I mean don't, don't be a victim to your circumstances.
George:Hmm and you can even say that from extreme scenarios too. That's how it's, because it's not gonna be easy in an extreme scenario when you've experienced something really traumatic yeah, no, it's not what death of a loved one, or, or, or Something really bad happening to you, all right through external forces, whatever that is. It's not gonna be easy again, but imagine what an inspiration you'll be to yourself and then to others if you get through that. And I've got like one of the one of the core values that I think anyone can ever have man or woman is Having a value of just being unstoppable.
George:And I've got that on a wristband here that I've, one of my events, I've got it as I literally have unstoppable. It's the only one I actually wear and it's almost like a daily reminder that nothing is going to stop me from achieving what I want to achieve, from getting through the day, from getting through the week. In any scenario, whatever it is, I will always be unstoppable. To have that unwavering belief and feeling that Not, not, not even this will stop me, not even this, not even this, not even this, and and if you can have a mindset of of that and trying to be the best version, the most unstoppable version of yourself. It's gonna be very difficult to stop a person like that. It's gonna be very difficult to bring a person like that down.
Robby:Do you have down days?
George:Absolutely. What do I do on those days? Well, again, I always remind myself, always if I'm having a down day and like for me similar to you, I was, covid was a difficult time for me, but every morning, when I'd wake up of, like, okay, got up every single day. I didn't never stayed in bed, I went up every day and yeah, see like yeah, I've never, I've never stayed.
George:No, I've never sat there and rolled up in a ball in a corner. I got up and did what I had to do and I just kept saying next week will be better, next month will be better, keep going. You just got to do this for two months. You just got to do this for three months, for two weeks, for another day, and then at the end of each day you get to wake up again and do it again. But the idea is that you can walk through that whole day, face the shit, face the challenges, go home, rest. Okay, let's go up and do it again.
Robby:We're gonna do it again those days when you, when making it to bed is like, yeah, let's go days done.
George:Yeah even then you might still have those thoughts in your mind, but trying to practice your gratitude that's definitely something that helps me in difficult times. Practice gratitude Okay, cool, I can breathe, I can walk, kids are, family is good, kids are good, I've got the roof over my head, I'm eating, and so on, and so just focus on the, the controllables, the real basic stuff that you can genuinely do, and go cool. Tomorrow can do this again. You might be facing bankruptcy, you might be facing whatever being sued or suing like, whatever it is. Ultimately, if you get to wake up the next day, it means the game isn't over, just a hard level. The game's not over. You can keep going.
George:I would also, during that time as well, I was listening to a lot of podcasts, but ones that were specific with mindset and helping like just positive things and things or Tools and strategies to use during difficult things that I could do. So me listening to that helped a lot. I found back then as well, just being and even reading yeah, reading books. That would help give me strategies to go Okay, look, it is okay to feel like this because it happens, it's, it's a difficult time in your life. That's what I harp on about with anyone.
George:Even if I was coaching someone, they say look, I'm really struggling, so it's good, struggle is good. You need struggles in your life. You need to have challenges because that's going to make you a better person in the future and that better person Could be for someone you haven't even met yet. Imagine now you meet the love of your life in At this moment of time when you're going through a really difficult time. Maybe you're not ready for them, but in five years time you're going to be the best version of yourself because you've gone through these difficult periods, because you've experienced all those things. So sometimes your hardships should really be celebrated.
Robby:Yeah, I, I think when you look back at anything that was a one-point difficult in your life yeah, like if you actually take time and you reflect and you look back at all the times when you felt like this was shit or that wasn't going your way or something felt like it was gonna end your world you know and you actually reflect and you understand or Make connected dots between what you have now that you wouldn't have had, that not happened, and you actually make the connection as well so you can see some of the positive that actually comes out of it. And then, when it happens in the future, you can you go with a different mindset because you start to understand that Some good will come out of this, even though I don't know what it is right now. Something good is gonna come from this event. That seems like it's the be all end of right now, but it's. I'll look back at this one day in maybe, you know, maybe three months, maybe three years, maybe 30 years, and I'll be able to know what the good that came out of this was.
Robby:Yeah, that's awesome. You know what I mean. Yeah, how do we, how do we fix it?
George:Imagine you could put out the opposite of what's going out now. What say? It's fake Mate? Not, maybe not to that degree. So you're saying part of the problem now is that it's being highlighted and taught.
Robby:I, I feel like look Awareness.
George:Maybe if you could put awareness out there of the complete opposite of that. So you know it, yeah, but so you know what I mean. I'm just saying, I'm just talking out loud. But let's just say you said Depression is fake, it's not real. Just don't believe it to be real. Here are some strategies and tools that you can use to Not use it, to make sure it doesn't affect you, because it's not a real thing. It's a might, it's a thought in your head that's making you think XYZ. Yeah, I'm just saying like, again, a Imagine you could get taught that in the school curriculum, but I that on TV or everything if you were to guess and this is we're both gonna guess here, because we don't know for sure.
Robby:But, adam, I don't know much about depression? Yeah, supposedly depression. At its core thing is a chemical imbalance in your brain that's causing you to feel in a particular way curious to see how many people have gotten a chemical test. That's what I'm, yeah you, just, you just went exactly this one thing like if there is a thousand people diagnosed tomorrow, hmm, a thousand people get diagnosed with depression. Of that thousand, how many of them actually have a chemical imbalance?
George:yeah, and it's so true with what you said before about people buying into it. When you go and see an expert, a Psychologist, a doctor, a GP and they tell you, oh, oh dude, placebo is a real thing, man. Yeah, like, based off what you're telling me, it sounds like you have a level one depression, or level three.
Robby:I don't know, and then if the person doesn't know any better, and I think the stuff, the nose, that's exactly what's wrong with me.
George:This whole time I've just been depressed. Oh, okay.
Robby:They gave them an answer to a question I haven't been able to answer to answer, and now it's like, okay, that must be the answer.
George:That's what it is.
Both:So, I will take these meds.
Robby:Okay, yeah, you're the doctor, you're so very smart, you went to uni for how long that's it?
George:seven years, and seven years. You're smart, you know what to do.
Robby:I think conventional medicine at this public Medical like I got it.
George:One of my best mates is a doctor, a GP as well, but Is he very by the book. I think so.
Robby:I think so, like Madsen, I Think so he's very smart guy, might ask him my intellectually smart or yeah, both, he's good.
George:Yeah, get him on the phone. Knowing what I know about him, I'm surprised.
Robby:Get him Joking.
George:Can you give him on? Yeah, maybe I reckon I could.
Robby:Doctor.
George:I'll see and then we'll have this. There's a doctor in the house, is there a? Yeah, so Was the same. Yeah, maybe that could be a solution. You know, if what you're what you're actually putting out there putting out their strategies that actually not get people on medication, it's not the first point of call. Don't do that first up, because there's too many people that will go on it and stay on it for the rest of their lives.
George:I Know someone who's telling me that they were on it and then, as soon as they went on it, they found it like oh yeah, I'm on that. Oh yeah, I'm on that. I've been on it for 10 years. What? You've been having this medication for 10 years. 10 years you've been altering your body like that, like what sort of long-term health effects is that gonna happen? Yeah, what's to say? That doesn't give you fucking cancer. And then you don't. You're done in 15. Okay, here's this medication. All right, and he's a person. If you take it more, if you take it for more than Two years, you're going to quadruple your risk of cancer. He's still taking it Me. No, I'm just like, but you know what I mean. Who knows what these with the side effects are of this. What's the consequence of you numbing the pain, as you said, or putting a band-aid on the pain, and then someone that's taking it For 10, 15, 20 years? Surely that can't be good. Surely that can't be good to be putting something like that into your body. I don't think taking.
Robby:Ideally, if you can not take, I'm a big believer in, if you can not take, anything Other than like, maybe natural supplements.
Robby:Yeah, yes, and vitamins and whatnot but, ideally, do you really want to be taking something that's countering something in your body daily, like that's my? I'm not. I'm far from an expert, but I Read this book. I'm pretty sure it was called Don't know, I think it was called. I think it was emotional intelligence, but I can't remember if it was that book and what they did in it was they did a study.
Robby:Yeah, you know placebo, right? So the whole concept of placebo is making someone believe something and then they're turning out to be true and and they explain the concept Might be an attorney Robinsburg, actually they explained the concept of placebo and how it came to fruition, how they actually found out about it, and there was an early time where might have been polio or this was like early 1900s. I'm pretty sure that a doctor actually ran out of medicine. He was giving these particular medicines for this thing and he ran out and, not wanting to tell his patients that he didn't have any money at the wait-offs for some, he was giving them fake pills, like a large percentage.
Robby:Yeah, like sugar pills, yeah, and a large percentage got cured Because they thought that what he was giving them was the real thing. And Then that opened up the study for them to then go dude, you know, have you seen even surgery? They did a study on surgery where they said, like someone, come in with a quick knee and they would just Slice them open and stitch them up and not do anything, and then the person's knee would heal because the person believed they had surgery. The person's like what do you mean? Yeah, of course I'm gonna. We did the surgery. Of course it's gonna be better now. And just from the power of thinking it, so much yeah they could do it.
George:Well, there's the power of your thoughts, isn't it? Yeah, if your thoughts can make you I have, this is great. Your thoughts can make you depressed, can't they do the opposite 100%. So there's the answer, isn't it? If your thoughts can put you in that state of mind, can't your thoughts take you out of it?
Robby:This is what I'm saying. This is why the way we're tackling this as a society is not right. Yes, I don't agree with it. We're just raising awareness, which is not correct, because it's inhuman nature to Notice something that has a chance of hurting them. Yeah, it's a survival instinct.
George:Yeah, it's a sort of protect ourselves.
Robby:So if we just like, it's like telling everyone, imagine they just told you every day, 47,000 people diagnosed with cancer today, 36,000 people diagnosed today that you know what I mean.
Both:And then every single day.
Robby:That's all you hear and you think, holy fuck, man, like I'm gonna be one of these people one day.
George:That's like covert during the stats where they're like 50, 5,000 people have got it today, 2,000 people, 100 people have got it today. Do you remember the stats? They used to do that every single fucking day, and how much did that affect people's mind? Oh, should have been. I'll go outside. We've had. We've had 20,000 cases today.
Robby:Yeah, it was insane.
George:There is. When was the last time you were concerned about, like ever heard about covert, do not? I mean Since? When's the last time you walked out in the sense that it affected your, you walking out of the door since then?
Robby:yeah, like it's, it's like it's disappeared like it never happened. I saw someone the other day and I saw her and she's like, oh, hey, and I'm hey in, jamie hug. And I was like, how's your trip? She's like, yeah, it's good, she just got back. She's like I Got covert when I came back and I just looked at her like he just fucking hugged me Like yeah, I mean, like I was like, yeah, whatever didn't get sick.
Robby:So it's cuz you're immune a beast and it's pretend and the seba Sugar feel. That's it. Um, but yeah, man, like I think the way we're handling it is not correct. I think the way that we do it as a society is not allowing people to get what they need out of it and instead of giving people actual strategies or ways that they can, uh, regulate or, you know, push through their mental health or how to actually feel better, man, you know what I mean, cuz your thoughts impact your feelings and it's all about how you feel.
George:Imagine they could put out a whole bunch of content about things that or media releases, anything, or even just curriculum and schools, that, how to feel good about, how to, how to be creating positive change in yourself.
Robby:Yeah, why does someone, why does someone like David Goggins go viral?
George:Because he's. So. I think a lot of those guys are so extreme in their thoughts. Right, you thought the tape, he's the same thing, yeah, but so he went so extreme on a certain aspect of Whatever it is. People hated him for it.
Robby:People loved him for so, jordan Peterson.
George:Jordan Peterson as well.
Robby:He's like a genius of his of the modern era. Why, if there was no need For that, why would it get to the point? That does why these people go viral. Why did they dude David Goggins? There's no one. He's no one. Who is he? He's a Navy seal. Yeah, that's all he is like, in the sense of dude. I know well big fan, but who is he like? What's he done? He just does these big runs.
George:Yeah, he puts himself through adversity, that's all, and people are impressed by that, and then his mindset behind it is like you know, you can't stop me, you can't stop me. He's gonna carry the boats like that's what his mindset is.
Robby:Isn't that a weird thing when you think about it?
George:probably yeah yeah, I'm gonna carry the boats like really it is, but this is what I mean. It's an extreme to something like because who runs 53 marathons in a row? Or Runs a marathon and says, cool, let's go do 4,000 push-ups? Now, no one does that, so he's that next extreme. So I'm finding that a lot of these people have those really far out ideas and beliefs, and then people actually see the logic and resonate with it too. It may not mean you need to go and run the 53 marathons, but it does mean that you need a heart in the fuck up.
Robby:Yeah, because it is kind of a A bit of a correction.
George:Yeah, and that's exactly right too. It's like we've gone so far left at the moment with a lot of beliefs and values as far as what's put out there that it is. It could be that correction that people are just sick of hearing that stuff, People sick of hearing of all these things that just really don't affect them in their life but they just it's just forced down their throat because they have to yeah, you know, and then you buy into it.
George:I know it's like welcome to country. I reckon that's on. I'm sorry if this offend you, but I reckon it's the dumbest fucking thing on the planet. What is it? Welcome to countries? You know, when you go to a country, somewhere or people comes. Australia would like to thank the Traditional custodians of the lands.
Both:Oh yeah welcome to country, yeah all right.
George:If you just show strongly believe about that, give it back.
Robby:Oh, why not yeah?
George:do you give it back to him. If you genuinely believe don't respect them, do the right thing. If you stolen it, give it back.
Robby:Yeah, you genuinely respect that like you genuinely respect them, give it back, give it back.
George:All right, let them run that, kick us out, whatever it is. Whatever you want to do, give it back, but don't fucking welcome me to my own country, do you know what I mean.
Both:It's all. I don't want to hear it is political bullshit.
George:But this is what I'm saying. It's it's an agenda. It's not agenda, it's something that's put forward on to us. Have you seen that? I promise you guys, we do events. I will never do a welcome to country. I will never do a welcome to country, and that's not a sign of disrespect. I'm not doing it or saying this to be disrespectful. I'm saying it because I am an Australian and I feel that I don't need to be welcomed into my own home.
Robby:But not just that. Why are you differentiating? That's right.
George:We're all the one person. Yeah, why are you differentiating race? That's what you're doing. You're saying we need to respect this race because they were here first and we.
Robby:Again overcorrection, like in the AFL. Now they have two indigenous rounds. I'll do that One, now that I'm sure they increase it now.
George:So they double. Yeah, and it's like some more t-shirts. It's.
Robby:It's An overcorrection? Hmm, I feel yeah, I mean and it's not handling the issues we have at hand in the correct manner. Hmm, and it's. It's almost a little bit silly.
George:Yeah, I would, it is. It's becoming. It's good that it gets to that point when it's ridiculous. Yeah, do you know what I mean? It just becomes ridiculous, and people I think the majority of people are sick of it. Yeah, that's why they're that's why they're relating to All these types of people that are out there in the world going no, I believe what you're saying. I feel I resonate with what you're saying, because I'm sick of hearing all that shit. That's what's actually true.
Robby:We we had to build a web. So we built a website for three or four months ago for a client, mm-hmm and on the bottom of the website we had to put LGBT. We acknowledge the LGBTQ community bubble, like all this stuff at the bottom of the website. It was a 17 pages long and I'm like Look okay, it's your website, we'll put whatever you want. But I couldn't help a question like why? Like, why I Don't conform.
Both:Hmm, yeah, that's what you say. No, not at all.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, I don't conform like it. Just because everyone's doing a particular thing and I think I've shared this with you before like I've never, all my mates used to go to music festivals. I've never been to a music festival my whole life. Like I just don't conform. It's just never been in my nature and I feel like that's not gonna be everyone. No, it's gonna be. It's a large percentage will, and we need to give that large percentage the right guidance, not make them aware of something that's gonna hurt them and then leave them to To make their own assumptions of whether they do or don't yeah.
Robby:You know, because the reality is the results haven't Got him better.
Both:Hmm.
Robby:The results haven't shown us that we are now a mental. If anything, we're probably worse mentally.
George:Hmm.
Robby:We're weaker yeah, we're mentally weaker than we've ever been.
Both:Yeah and.
George:And something I want to say like we're not, we're not doing, we're not having this combo now as experts. We're just having a conversation. That's what this is about now. It's just having an open conversation and we're not claiming to be an expert or claiming that Mental health doesn't exist and what you're feeling isn't real or your past experiences Haven't been traumatic, that you do or are affected and look, some people may genuinely need medication. I'm just saying I think we're too fast to go to it and don't actually tackle the yeah, we've made it too easy to do that.
Robby:That's. That's exactly what we're saying. Yeah, not that it's not. I know that doesn't. We're not saying that it's not real.
George:We're just gonna climb up because there's gonna be. You're gonna get people now that will say, oh, you guys are this, you guys are this. And it's not about that. We're just having discussions. But even our discussions we can get ridiculed just for having these points of use. Why? Because we're people will again. We're not conforming.
Robby:You know, I um my younger cousin. She's like six. Look, she's a little. She's a little. Come on, I think she's in prep or grade one and I was at my uncle's house and she came and said something. She said something along the lines of being traumatized by something.
Robby:I think a butterfly had come near her and she was oh, that butterfly traumatized me and I just looked at her and I thought I reckon I learned the word traumatized when I was like Like 24. Yeah, like 30, 31. Um, yeah, I was so taken back by, like you know that word already, like I understand, creating awareness around it. But Can she give me the definition of gratitude?
George:Yeah, there you go you know what I mean.
Robby:Like, if you're going to teach one side, teach both.
Both:Yeah.
Robby:Don't just show people the bad stuff and then wonder why they wonder off to that side.
George:Bad selves, doesn't it? Bad selves? Yeah, bad gets more views.
Robby:It's not okay, and that's why the? Media has been trashed lately. Like you know people lots of. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like lots of people don't watch reduced amount.
George:I turned on the project the other day. Do you want to be able to watch that? It's what a rubbish show that is.
Robby:Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's on channel 10. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George:It's just rubbish. Just the stuff they're talking about is just absolute garbage.
Robby:Yeah, someone told me I had someone in the car the other day and they're like put the radio on and I'm like, no, yeah. And they're like I don't like your music and I was like we'll sit in silence.
Both:Like I think, like I, you know what I mean.
Robby:I'll put an audio book on, Like I'm not going to listen to absolute trash.
George:Like I refuse to let myself. There's a lot of that that. They're just talking absolute rubbish as well.
Robby:It's just nonsense, dude Nonsense, yeah, yeah, and they make it feel like they're changing someone's life by giving them a thousand dollars.
George:Yeah, call up and act like I'm giving you a best monkey impersonation, we'll give you 50 bucks.
Robby:Yeah, and it's like this is dumb, like this is the blind leading the blind, but there's someone who's not blind leading everything. That's right.
George:That's right. That's what I was saying. Is it, is it the evil part of people and humanity that are pushing these? Because it's profitable, because it gets eyes, it gets ears, it does all that sort of stuff?
Robby:There's a whole conspiracy around it.
George:Yeah, Absolutely there is. I heard a lot of that during COVID as well. You know that it was all the richest families in the world developed this and let it unleash on the world. So next time that there is something that can control everyone better and see what happens and who, said, someone said the other day that COVID was.
Robby:The theory behind COVID was that there was too many old people and they didn't know how to get rid of them. And I'm like dude, like that is brutal.
Both:Too many like too many old people.
Robby:I didn't know how to get rid of them Too many.
Both:And I'm like really.
Robby:Like why was I only killing old people? Probably because they're fragile and they're in systems a week.
George:Speaking about that, I was like when you're older, there's no reason why you get fragile and weak. It's a choice you make, I reckon, as you get older, because ultimately it comes down to you stop building health and muscle. If you keep maintaining and training and working like you'll be strong until the day you die. But here's the thing you have a level of strength.
Robby:We're not taught how to build health. No, no. You know, what we're taught. You know, when you say to someone like, why don't you do this, why don't you do that? And they're like I'm not sick, and you're like the absence of sickness is not health, You're a fucking idiot. Exactly you know what I mean. It's you need to be healthy. Like go get your blood checked. Do I get my blood checked twice a year?
George:Yeah, yeah. So I got it done last year for the first time and do you know what happened? Everything came back to normal. Do you know what? About what I didn't like about that? Like, oh yeah, your blood, this is normal. This is normal, this is normal. So is there anything exceptional? I love that. I asked that.
Both:Is there anything above average.
George:Yeah, is there anything that you've got Anywhere?
Robby:where I am crushing. Yeah, Is it like man, your white?
George:blood cells are fucking killing it at the moment. You got like you're gonna. I don't even know if that's a good thing, it's not.
Robby:It's not a good thing. White blood cells I don't know Inemic, okay cool, like when your white and red is doing sick job at the moment. Like just tell me something.
George:Your iron levels are through the roof. Yeah, like you are.
Robby:We're gonna call your iron jaw to an end Next time you come in. We're gonna call your iron jaw because your iron levels are out of this world. But why would?
George:people then go. Oh great, nothing wrong with me. Okay, what's?
Robby:good, yeah, fuck, that's a really good. That's sick, isn't it? I'm gonna go yell on my doctor. Yeah, me too, me too.
George:It's like well, what do I need to do? Like, I don't want these normal levels, I want exceptional levels. What do I need to do? What do I have to look at these areas? I want everyone a full report. Say everything's in the middle Cool, how do I get the? If I got all of those items to be a not eight out of 10, what does that mean for me? Oh man, your hearts will be amazing, your hair will be amazing, your skin will be amazing.
Robby:You're healthy. They're not taught to do that. They're just taught to make sure there's nothing wrong with you.
George:Just make sure there's nothing wrong. You are not bad, yeah, okay, oh, so I'm not good, yeah, but you're not bad.
Robby:I take my blood test results, I get them to send them to me every time and then I compare them to like last time. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, and I look at it and I'm like, why did this drop? Like what have I done? Yeah, and then I'll look up whatever that thing is. I'm like, okay, that's a bit odd, and I'll actually look in, like I'll study it. Yeah, like not, I don't spend 40 days, but like I'll just briefly look over and compare it to the last one and just notice, like what have I changed in my life recently? What's my last six months been like? Yeah, have I been eating good? Have I been eating bad? Have I been, you know, have I been hydrated? I've been training. And just break it down, because your mental health's impacted by your physical health.
George:Well, I think that's a great way to sort of wrap this up as well. It's. Ultimately, it does come down to the things that you do for yourself. Look and ask yourself and being better than average in those areas, don't accept a not bad blood test Do you know what I mean as a metaphor? So good, but don't accept it Like okay, what do I need to do? Even if you're not feeling depressed right now, all right. Well, what can you do to be exceptionally happy, exceptionally feeling good about your body, your mental, physical, spiritual health? Why do you have to settle for not being bad, settle for more or don't settle? You know what I mean. Don't settle for having just the average life, the average mindset, the average body. Like, go out there and get more, and then you know what that will do. As a result, you probably see depression go away pretty quickly.
Robby:Oh, without a doubt.
George:If you're crushing it in mental, physical and spiritual health, if you're doing exceptional well in all those areas, don't you reckon that'll get rid of this whole pandemic for better word, yeah, of having mental health issues everywhere?
Robby:And, like you know, when you do feel that level of sadness, depression, whatever you want to call it, it's your body's trying to like, you're trying to, you're trying to be told something. It's it. It's telling you, guys, it's like you need to change something. You either there's something missing in your life or you know you're doing something that's not allowing you to feel great and you just got to work out what it is. It's always telling you something.
George:It's always speaking to you. Don't numb it. Yeah, and even just a small thing like this, I my back would kill every time I'd wake up in the morning before I started training with weights. I've been training now for the last year year and a half or so more consistently over the last six months, but my back would always hurt, and it wasn't until I started training with weights. I wake up in the morning, my back doesn't hurt anymore.
George:But my body was telling me oh, you're not. You don't. Your muscles around your legs and your back are no good. You're getting, you're going to get sore Like you're nearly 40. Do something about it. So ever since I've been training and now building muscle in those areas like my back doesn't hurt at all, and that's not a magical thing.
Both:No, you did the work. It's listening to the body.
George:Exactly. I was doing more than what I needed to do because I could have quite easily. My back didn't hurt during the day, it was just in the morning when I woke up and then, once I got moving and warmed up, I was fine. But why settle for that? Why accept that? That's my nature. From this point on, it's a downward, downhill spiral, or downward spiral. From this point on, I'm going to get to 50,. I'm going to get to 60. I'm not going to. I'm going to need a walking stick. If I get a walking stick, I want one of those ones with, like a redback spider. That's purely just for looks. You know what I mean. I want a walking stick. Yeah, just hit some old punk. What is it going to be Gen FYQ or whatever it is by that time? Yeah, hit someone on the head as a walk past them. Yeah, these kids that's it Damn kids.
George:That's the only reason I want a walking stick. Yeah, when was your end? That's it Just yelling that to everyone, it's an interesting topic, isn't it?
George:It is, and you could probably talk about it for hours upon hours. So, look, if anyone is experiencing that sort of stuff difficult times and difficult experiences definitely reach out to someone that can help you, but genuinely help you. Look after your best interests and understand that you know you more than anyone else will ever will. You don't have to accept what someone's telling you and I'm just going to finish with this too. I remember I was listening to Grant Cardone's story and he was telling me when he was in his 20s or mid 20s, early 20s, whatever it was he was a drug addict and he would take drugs every day marijuana, the works, he would drink, he would do everything and he got checked into rehab and as he left, he goes we'll see you next. He goes see you soon and he turns around. He goes like what do you mean?
Robby:He goes, you'll be back.
Both:You'll be back.
George:All right. And Grant took that with the biggest chip on his shoulder and he's like he goes, I'll fucking show you he goes. I'm never coming back here, man, you got no idea. And they'll try. And even when they were there, like feeding him drugs, and he stopped, he goes. No, I guess I've come in here to get off drugs. Why are you giving me drugs? Yeah, the whole system. But that's him having that awareness and thinking. And, mind you, he was a druggy back then, like he was addicted. He was going into somewhere to get off drugs and they were giving him drugs and I was like what are you guys doing? And when he finally checked out, two, three, four months later, six months later, it's like oh, we'll see you soon. And he's like you will never see me again, mate, you'll never see me again. Okay, the only time you're going to see me now is when I'm a billionaire. All right, and you can be coming to me.
Robby:I'm your Facebook feed.
George:You'll be seeing me on your Facebook feed. That's the only place. So if you are experiencing difficulties, definitely find help, find resources and do what you need to do to get yourself right.
Robby:And always seek a second opinion. Yeah, you know, always don't just take the first thing someone tells you, because if I did that that day, man, I probably would have thought I was depressed and I would always look to seek a second opinion and take the results in and have a good think about it myself. You know, and yeah, I just think, if we all start to raise awareness about how we can make this better, we will, that will be, that will be the improvement we need Great man.
George:It was a good episode, powerful, I think, and I hope I hope everyone listening in, no matter what state you're in, good or bad. I hope you got something out of this and that it helps you on your journey to be the best version of yourself, not just the average version of yourself, because life's too small, life's too short to be small. Stop playing small. Stop playing so small. Thanks, guys, appreciate you. Guys tuning in, as always. Hit that subscribe button top right hand corner. Top right hand corner. Share it with someone.
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Robby:Let us know as well. I will pop the. There'll be notes left somewhere, you'll find them and there'll be a place where you can ask us questions, where you can leave some topics, things you want to hear us discuss. I'll leave a couple of links in there for you as well, and if there's anyone who, I guess, specializes in any of these topics that we've covered, that wants to pop on the podcast.
Robby:There's now a be a guest on our podcast listed on our website, milliondollardayscomau. You can go on there. You can opt in to be a guest. We'll get it. If we think you're a good fit, We'll get in touch and organize the time to get you in.
George:Yeah, I think it's great because it opens up that conversation.
Both:Yeah, because we're not the expert in these fields.
George:We're just having an open conversation to mates, talking here about our past experiences, what we've seen, what we've felt, and having that discussion with everyone. But if someone came in here now and said, no, george, you're actually completely wrong, we'd be more than happy to have that conversation.
Robby:Zanex is good for you.
George:Yeah, that's it. I'm the CEO. Where's the CEO?
Robby:I'm the CEO of Pfizer.
George:Pfizer, that's it, pfizer, you'd be dying to get onto this show, wouldn't you?
Robby:Yeah, he's probably the person, one of our main listeners.
George:Thank you very much, guys. I appreciate you listening and tuning next week, because we're not stopping. Hey, is this episode 20 yet?
Robby:Oh, yes, this is 21.
George:We missed it last one. There you go.
Both:Episode 21. Guys we're in the top 1%.
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Robby:I'm pretty sure we might have zero listeners we still might, but one day yeah, we'll get one. One day We'll catch someone. Thanks a lot, guys. Awesome Thanks, guys. Don't forget to subscribe to the channel and thanks for watching.