Welcome to the latest edition of Million Dollar Days, where we're peeling back the layers on what it really takes to scale your business and pad your profits without grinding yourself into the ground. I'll take you through my own rollercoaster ride of managing multiple ventures, making those game-changing hires, and distinguishing between the flashy allure of revenue and the stealthy significance of profit. Buckle up as we dissect myths, unbox truths, and share a saga that's not just about the balance sheets but living a life rich with purpose and success.
This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a challenge to the boundaries of your business playbook and personal beliefs. Ever pondered if a private jet is just a luxe toy or a smart business move? We'll crunch the numbers and also tackle those mental roadblocks that might be downplaying your potential. Plus, we take a real-life case study of a business teetering on the edge of exponential growth to prod your thought process – are you playing it too safe within the cushy confines of your comfort zone?
And because growth isn't limited to the spreadsheets, we're talking about the human side of the hustle. From the metaphorical 'rolling of the dice' to the profound implications of parenting and personal growth, this episode is loaded with anecdotes and exercises that will have you reevaluating your time and priorities. Time is precious, and we're here to remind you to wield it wisely, to chase those million-dollar days with vigor, and to never stop casting the dice towards your grandest visions and dreams. Tune in and transform the way you engage with the ticking clock of life and business.
Welcome to the latest edition of Million Dollar Days, where we're peeling back the layers on what it really takes to scale your business and pad your profits without grinding yourself into the ground. I'll take you through my own rollercoaster ride of managing multiple ventures, making those game-changing hires, and distinguishing between the flashy allure of revenue and the stealthy significance of profit. Buckle up as we dissect myths, unbox truths, and share a saga that's not just about the balance sheets but living a life rich with purpose and success.
This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a challenge to the boundaries of your business playbook and personal beliefs. Ever pondered if a private jet is just a luxe toy or a smart business move? We'll crunch the numbers and also tackle those mental roadblocks that might be downplaying your potential. Plus, we take a real-life case study of a business teetering on the edge of exponential growth to prod your thought process – are you playing it too safe within the cushy confines of your comfort zone?
And because growth isn't limited to the spreadsheets, we're talking about the human side of the hustle. From the metaphorical 'rolling of the dice' to the profound implications of parenting and personal growth, this episode is loaded with anecdotes and exercises that will have you reevaluating your time and priorities. Time is precious, and we're here to remind you to wield it wisely, to chase those million-dollar days with vigor, and to never stop casting the dice towards your grandest visions and dreams. Tune in and transform the way you engage with the ticking clock of life and business.
I'll tell you what I like about high revenue. What's a low profit margin for a builder?
George:Anything under I would dare say the vast majority of builders are in that space, and that's the thing with construction and those high ticket value products. You can just sell one real quick and go. Okay, here we are. We're at this space now. All of a sudden, you've gone from having an okay year to an okay YouTube.
George:Welcome back, or welcome for the very first time to Million Dollar Days. I hope you're having a million dollar day, howdy doody, howdy doody. Welcome. We're happy to have you here and even more so we're more pumped just to be here. This is the best. It's so much fun, it's easy, isn't it? And it's not a difficult thing.
George:As far as we'll be talking during the week and we're like, hey, what are we going to talk about on our podcast this week? I don't know, we'll sort it out. Yeah, we'll sort it out. Just even in general topic and life and things that come up, we go, hey, let's talk about this. And they're like, yeah, cool topic, cool topic. And I'm pumped about our topic today, are you? Yeah, I actually am. I actually am because it resonates with me a lot and I reckon after you listen to this episode, it's going to resonate with you too, because you're going to realize that you're doing this in your day-to-day life. I guarantee it. Every single person is Every single person. Do you want to just get straight into it? No, we can talk a bit of shit. What's news in you in in the life?
Robby:of Robert. Is that weird when someone calls you Robert? No, I kind of like it, I don't like it. What's news? I've just been working, man, just been kicking some goals, getting things done, having some good learnings, lessons, good, what sort of lessons and learnings? By the time this airs, it's going to be end of Q1. It'll probably be April. Yeah, potentially, or close to, it'll be the end of March. Nice, yeah, yeah. And you know 25% of 2024 done and dusted.
George:Very, much so what have you done? What have you done? We asked that a lot this year.
Robby:Yeah, keeping, keeping accountable.
George:Yeah for sure, we don't let you get away, and that's going to tie into our topic today as well a little bit as well.
Robby:Yeah, are you living?
George:the life that you want to that on to that you desire.
Robby:Look at that. We'll finish each other's sandwiches. That's the best, so good. Yeah, are you living that life? Are you doing the stuff you said you were going to do? Yeah, for starters, how fucking fast is time going?
George:Yeah, it's ridiculous, as I walked in here today, I said to you as well, I'm like I don't ever remember being so busy Ever, Even last year, the years before. I'm like this is, I don't ever remember being so busy ever, Even last year, the years before. I've just got so much work to do and all my fault, which is great, because I've now bolted on multiple businesses onto my core business and it's like, well, okay, now I really need to start thinking about how I'm going to deliver everything. How am I going to do everything in a way that's still kicking goals for all the businesses? So it's a great challenge. Yeah, everything in a way that's still kicking goals for all the businesses. So it's a great challenge and something that I'm pumped about.
George:And as each business grows, they evolve, they change, you get more people into them. Literally before we were walking in here, I was writing an employment contract, so that's great that I'm going to put another person onto one of my businesses and grow it and keep going. And the idea is that I'm not firing people, I'm hiring people every year. You know we want to get bigger and bigger and bigger, but also keeping in mind that bigger doesn't mean less profits. Bigger doesn't mean more stress Bigger can mean better as well.
Robby:Bigger is better.
George:Yeah, a lot of people were saying I put up a post the other day saying how revenue isn't an indicator of you know how good you're doing in business, because I would much rather have a lower revenue but a higher profit. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And I think that's a trap with a lot of builders, particularly because we're such high ticket value purchasers and before you know it, you might be making a $8 million revenue turnover in your business, but you're making fuck all money, either 8%, that's it, yeah, and that's even good for some people.
Robby:So do you know what? I'll tell you what I like about high revenue. So if you look at money as a stream, if you're turning over high revenue, it means money is passing through. Yeah, yeah, money is passing through this entity that you've created in your business. Yeah, and the beauty of it is if you're doing let's just say, for example, a builder's doing very low profit margins, what's a low?
George:profit margin for a builder Anything under 10% is low, so okay. So let's say I would dare say the vast majority of builders are in that space.
Robby:So let's say they're doing 10 just for just to keep it from google's, yeah, okay, so if they're doing and they're turning over a lot, so if they're turning over, uh say 10 million dollars and they do 10, profit of 10 million, that's 100 grand.
George:Uh, yeah 100 grand of 10 million. No, it's a million, oh sorry, sorry, it's a million.
Robby:Yeah, one percent's a hundred. Yeah, no, it's a million. Oh, sorry, sorry, it's a million. Yeah, 1% is 100K. Yeah, so it's a million. So they do 10 million. They've got a 10% proper margin. They do a million. If they can turn that 10 into 12, they'll do 1.2 million. Yeah, that's 200K. That'll probably hire two people, two high quality staff for you. Do you know what I mean? And 2% is not a big tweak.
George:That's right. You can get, and that's the thing with construction and those high ticket value products you can just sell one real quick and go. Okay, here we are. We're at this space now, and that's what even happened with us this year. We won one, two, three, four projects, whatever it is, and then all of a sudden you've gone from having an okay year to a really busy year.
George:Yeah, it ramps up very, very, very much it does. But the idea I mean and this is something I teach with our builders is it's such high-risk work as far as there's so many variables to it that when you're at that, 10% it's not enough. You're better off going into another business making 10%. So I'd much rather make 10% selling $10 million worth of flowers as opposed to construction, because it's very few variables that are going to affect that business.
Robby:Imagine selling $10 million worth of flowers.
George:That's fucked out of flowers. Again, we're going to step into this topic, aren't we? That's a lot of flowers, man. A lot of flowers, a lot of flowers. Do you know what? Do you reckon? There's a company out there doing it, of course, and that's probably Probably one week's worth of flowers. So then yeah, Potentially.
Robby:But yeah, I think people do get in that trap, like they want to focus on their revenue, not their profit. But I think there is an upside to it as well, in the sense of you can get the money to flow through you and then you can tweak the business to start improving 1%, 2%, like, dude, you can make a tweak on a job. Let's just say, for example, let's say we'll use Builders, yeah, and they're doing 10 mil and they make one tweak in their business on their contracts, yeah, that can put an extra 100 grand.
George:No, you are. So bang on with that. This is the smallest tweak, yeah, little tweak. And I can give an example. Now we're doing a project in I actually won't go into it where and what but we're doing a project and Give us the direction.
Robby:It's a construction process. That way it's a good direction.
George:It's like Bayside, yeah, bayside, let's say Bayside. So we're doing a project and there's a package that we've put together that's going to see us net probably, I'd say, $50,000 in the space of two weeks, just like that, and it's such a simple thing. But we're able to broker a deal with a client and have that conversation with him and he knows, actually, funny enough, how much we're going to do out of this. Yeah, potentially much we're going to do out of this. Yeah, potentially, but it's not, and we said it. Look, it's not. It's actually mutually beneficial for us to be doing this, because then even me making that amount of money on this certain deal on this transaction helps him on the other project, because I'm like well, we're benefiting here, we will help you out there. So it works both ways in that regard. Do you know what I mean?
Robby:Yeah, it's win-win. Yeah it is.
George:I think they're the best situation, yeah, but I've had other projects where we've made that sort of money as well on a single package. The most I've ever made on a single package is probably a hundred grand, and when I say package I mean, say, a contractor where we found a better way to do something. Now that's a hundred thousand dollars you never allowed for and that you've got just like that.
Robby:What can you do with that money? Dude, you could have someone for 40 hours, and that's pretty. You have someone fairly skillful there, that's right.
George:So you can have someone in your business. Or why not invest it in yourself? Why not go and get coaching and mentoring? Yeah, 100%. Why not go and buy some brand new equipment that's going to better your business, like tools, computers. Maybe it means you upgrade from a home office to an actual office. You know why?
George:Because we play too small. Playing too small, yeah, playing too small. I love that saying. We ask ourselves that question all the time and we fuck around when we're saying it. We're joking a bit too. Yeah, but no, we're not. No, in the sense that, in the sense we like we'll do something. We know we're playing bare and we're looking. In the sense we like we'll do something. We know we're playing bear and we're looking, playing small, oh, how small. Why are you playing so small? And it happened. Was it yesterday or the day before?
George:I sent you a video. Did you watch it? The airplane one, seven minute one. I don't know how long it went for, but yeah. Did you watch it? The podcast one? No, no, the good mate Top bloke. I'm getting reminded of my wife. I send her stuff, she doesn't watch it. No comment, no comment.
George:So for context, it was a broker in the States that sells airplanes. Yeah, and I'm not talking little propeller ones, you're talking yeah, and he's on the phone. He's on the phone with a client. He had it on loudspeaker and he recorded the whole conversation and the prospective buyer. He sits there and he's like listen, he goes yeah, I've got 80 to $90 million that I want to spend on a plane. This is a private jet. Now we're talking private jets. You can get something good for that. You can get something sick for that. Yeah, yeah, ridiculous, ridiculous of planes available for you at that slowest moment. Yeah, I ended. A lot of people are spending 20, 30 mil and he's like I've got 80, 90. I think that's probably why he recorded it. But what I got out of it although the conversation was interesting and this is person on the other line, no, no, you didn't know who it was. He was just talking to someone. He goes I've got 80, 90 million dollars to buy the plane. He goes first of all, where do you want to fly? So what's your longest flight? Because then that eliminates or puts in some different planes into the mix, because he was trying to select one and he goes I'm going here. This is my longest flight. He goes okay, cool, these are the planes that are suitable for you. Also, how many people do you want to carry this many people, excellent, he goes.
George:Now let's have a chat about your running cost per year. He goes. You're going to have to employ full-time crew, so you're going to have a full-time pilot, maybe probably two pilots. You'll probably have one on standby in case one gets sick. You're going to want staff in there to serve your drinks and food and all that sort of stuff. Have hosts in there. Then you're going to need to pay airport fees, storage fees, all that sort of stuff. He goes. You're probably looking at about $1.2 million. $1.3 million just to have the plane sitting there doing nothing. He goes on top of that. If you do 400 hours of flights a year, you're probably looking at this much fuel. You're looking at this much in fees and taxes when you're going to different airports and you have to park your airplane in their hangar, all this sort of stuff. You're probably looking at another one and a half million dollars. Right, and he's there and he's talking these huge numbers, huge numbers. So he goes. You're probably looking at about three to $4 million a year just to have the airplane sitting there doing what it needs to do.
George:And the guy on the other line is like, yeah, excellent, no worries. I goes oh, that's a bit cheaper than I thought. It would get re-engineered, it has to do this. He goes yeah, excellent, that sounds good, we got particular taste. So we want to have certain things in there. And what I got out of that conversation is the guy was talking phenomenal numbers and it was like he was buying a Hyundai XL. Okay, so the same way that you got. Look, say the same way.
George:Anyone listening to this goes and buys a car and they go cool, this car's $30,000. You're like, yeah, great, I can afford that $30,000. Yeah, by the way, your repayments are this much. Yeah, excellent, by the way, you need to pay. Put fuel in it. It's going to cost you this much. Yes, yeah, I get that. Oh, you also have insurance, great, yeah, I still want to purchase a car. Yeah, it's the same conversation, but one's talking about $90 million and the other one is talking about $30,000.
George:Now people look at that and go, oh, how is that even possible? How is that guy even contemplating spending $90 million and not even blinking an eyelid when he has to spend $4, $5 million, $10 million to get the thing off the ground and it comes down to people are playing so small, yeah, probably making half a billion dollars a year. That plane is going to make him money and he realizes that. And this is the thing about having a private jet People think when you see people posting photos and shit like that on socials, them being on a private jet, they don't have a private jet, because people that have private jets don't post those photos.
George:They don't have a private jet, they're just probably a guest on a jet or they've spent a significant amount of money to charter it to go to a certain location. They don't have the jet and what it does is it leverages your time. It means you don't have to wait in airports, you don't have to move through the queues, you don't have to go through customs, you don't have to do 101 different things. You get on your plane, you go wherever you want when you want, and that allows you to broker a deal in real time, because I could be here now and say, cool, we want to do a deal in Western Australia. Cool, and it's probably a little bit different in Australia because I don't think we need to travel as much from here, compared to, like, the US yeah, compared to a US or something like that, where they'll go to a lot of the capital cities per se and even in Europe Look, I might be wrong about that.
George:Yeah, that's right, that's right. So say, I wanted to broker a deal somewhere right now and it's a big deal, I'm going to go see the guy. Yes, I could go jump on a business class flight to Perth, but it's not going to be that same thing. I want to go now, I want to get my bag, I want to jump on the plane and I want to leave now. I don't want to wait till 10 PM and then I get to 10 PM and the flight's canceled. You know what I mean. So it leverages time for them. And this conversation today is like why are you playing so small? What are you doing in your life? You probably don't even realize it too, because a lot of people, I reckon, go through the motions and it's Groundhog Day for them. They wake up in the morning, go to work, work hard, come home, have dinner, go to sleep, go to work, and it's on repeat. And even if you're having a level of success, I think you can still have.
Robby:I think that's the biggest, biggest hinder when you're winning, yeah, Because then you don't think very few people. I had this conversation with someone yesterday and I believe this the world's funny. I believe this person I was talking to has they do okay, they do really well, Like they do good, They've got a seven figure business. But when we do, we work with them and we do all their marketing. And when I saw the potential once we started because we get pretty like, we get pretty involved in people's business I see a fair few insights. And when I saw the potential in this business I won't name the business when I saw the potential in this business and I was there yesterday and I was having a conversation with him and I said, dude, I think you're getting in your own way here and you know what his response was, what. But we've grown year on year and I was like, yeah, that's got nothing to do with what I said.
Robby:I said you're getting in your own way, you could be an eight figure business Easily, especially in Australia. You're getting in your own way. You could be an eight-figure business, yeah, easily, easily, especially in australia. You know for what they do, like that particular thing, and I'm like dude, like there is so much it's I was it's few businesses have shocked me as to how much interest they have in a particular product or service. This is one of them. I was like whoa, like this is bizarre man, like it's very niche, and I think I know who you're talking about yeah, I can't believe the amount of people that are into this.
Robby:I found it odd and, yeah, I was like, man, you, uh, you know you could turn this thing into an eight-figure business, and their response was, no, we've been. We've been growing and I'm like, yeah, that's cool, but sometimes the fact that you have been growing by 10 or 12, 12% or 20% is the thing stopping you from growing to 200%, 500%, 1,000%. Why can't you grow 1,000%? Why can't you 10X your business? Why can't you be on the stock exchange? Yeah, why can't you grow public? Go public. Why can you not grow your business 10X? Why?
George:And people say I reckon people would be like, no, I don't want to.
Robby:Why I don't want to have those problems. Yeah, why Beliefs? Hey, limiting belief 100%. You know why? Because they equate the amount of work to be done to grow 10x to be too much for the reward.
George:That's right, and it would have a negative impact on their lives. Yeah, as in, I'll spend too much time at the office. I won't be around with the hire. I don't think that's true. It's not at all. It's not at all. Because you know what would be cool when you get on the stock exchange. Obviously, you're going to have a board at that stage. You don't need to run the day-to-day operations. Do you know what's really cool? Say, jet, actually I'm gonna go to american in my own jet this weekend. We'll be back in three months. Sort it out. Okay, that's cool too.
George:I mean to have that ability to just turn around and say, yeah, we're gonna, this is how we're gonna be from now on. Now, yeah, that's um. That's really interesting, and I think I've been victim to that as well. I reckon pre-covid, I was making some good money. I think it gets everyone. Yeah, I think I've done it too, dude I. I felt that, oh, look at this, the cash is rolling in. I'm doing yeah, got comfortable and I thought, yep, this is great, I'm going to go buy a house with cash. I don't need to go to the banks, I'm going to be sweet, all right. Then COVID rolled in and gave me a reality check and that was great for me because it's made me a better business owner, a better husband, father person I believe as well, and I went out and seeked additional knowledge, made more connections and now I reckon you give it a couple more years and everyone's going to know us and me and what I do and everything.
Robby:What's a benefit to comfort, apart from how it makes you feel, because comfort is a nice feeling. Apart from how it makes you feel, what's a benefit to comfort?
George:Maybe you could say security, that's not comfort. No, I was saying it the other way around.
Robby:Say a consequence Security gives you comfort. Yeah, comfort is not security. Yeah, a benefit of comfort. What's a benefit of comfort? That's a good question. Yeah, because I don't think there is any. Yeah, I don't think there is any. Dude, I posted a video the other day on TikTok saying comfort. It starts off saying comfort is a killer. And someone commented and like toxic, and I'm like how, what you're saying is toxic? Yeah, and I'm like how I commented Tell me how. And they wouldn't reply, of course not.
George:Yeah, but again, playing to limiting beliefs, there's so many people with that, so many people with those limiting beliefs, and I reckon it's almost in every I could pick it in almost every person.
Robby:Yeah, that's because you're trained. Yeah, most people can't. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like you see, do you know how many times I hear people talking and I look and I think I wonder if they realize what they just said there. Because people say, dude, language is a very powerful tool, or I don't know what you'd call it. It's not a tool, it's all kind of tool. You know what I mean? Language is very powerful, man. People speak things they're not even consciously aware of.
George:Yeah, it's like even saying, if we go public one day if Did you come up with that?
Robby:That's right On the flip.
George:That's what I'm saying. Oh, no, I was giving an example, but there's, there's that language aspect of it. Oh, if we make $10 million turnover next year, it'd be a really good year for us. If we buy, if we employ three more people, we'll we'll be killing it If we win the four more projects we permission not to get there. So now I say when and when people say, how's 23 looking? Okay, we're going to have our biggest year to date, 24. 24, whatever. So yeah, 24. We're going to have our biggest year to date. Is it our biggest year so far? No, I'm still not there, but we will have our biggest year to date. Yeah, and it's going to grow and I've even said it even with my consulting company it's going to be the biggest in the country and it's going to be a seven to eight, seven figure, I reckon, in the next couple of years at least. And then who knows where to from there.
Robby:The one of the greatest things and we've touched on this before is like the stretch goal, like aim for something. I think Elon Musk says it Try and achieve. Try and think how can I get my 10-year goals in six months and you're probably going to miss it. You're going to get a lot further along than you will had you just aimed for your six months normally that's the whole premise of Grant Cardone's 10X as well.
George:It's not necessarilyone's 10X as well. Yeah, it's not necessarily to achieve 10X in a certain aspect of your life or business, but he goes. If you aim to make another 10X but you get eight, well, it's better than doing two 100%.
Robby:Have you seen the video of him talking to the guy? The guy who spokes, lead Broke down? No. And he talks to him and he's like how much have you made? How much you make last year? He's like 180 grand. He's like how much are you trying to do this year? He's like 200. And he's like, yeah, he goes. So you want to make 200 because you need to be playing a two million dollar game. And then the guy's like I smoke weed. And then he's like. He's like do you think it's a problem? He's like of course it's a problem. He goes's like of course it's a problem. He goes. Why he goes? Because if I'm going up against you and I don't smoke weed and you smoke weed, he goes. Who do you think is going to win? Yeah. And he's like yeah, you're right. See, I'm a big fan of the way. I think he's a freak. I love him. Yeah, does go big or go. Yeah, go bigger. Yeah.
Robby:And everyone says home I don't even know, when he said it to me, I was listening to it and I was like home. He's like no, go bigger. See why you need me as your mentor.
George:Yeah, like you're right, you're right, it's so right, it's so true, um so, but he was, he played, he practiced what he preaches. Oh, you know what I mean? That's because he, he didn't have a jet, he didn't have a jet, and then he go, he was. He calls that his best investment yeah For him, absolutely.
George:And he was going to people and he was saying well, he went and spoke to a billionaire mentor of his and he goes, should I get a jet? And the guy was like fuck, no, absolutely you should. And he tells a story about how he went and got the jet and all that sort of stuff. He called up Gulfstream and said you know, I want a jet, they to his account, and I want you to wire this much money into their account right now. And he did. And they called him back and they go.
George:No one has ever done that before, because we'll have one for you in three weeks, in three months, whatever it is. And he got one. He knows how to play the game, that's it. And then he went from doing that and then he bought a couple of choppers you say that too. And then he went during COVID. During COVID, he became a billionaire because he learned in 2008 in the GFC when he was playing small. Because he was playing small and he was affected by the GFC, he goes. I promise that the next time this happens, I'm not going to cop this and he was saying it because I used to follow him but pre COVID and he was saying he goes, there's going to be something else that happens in this year that's going to bring the world to its knees, sorry, in the years to come he goes, are you going to be ready for it or are you going to be like one of those players like me, like I was in 2008, worried and scared and contracting and all this?
Robby:sort of stuff. He blew up.
George:He blew up, he became so hard and he became a billionaire during that time. And you know what else he did? He protected the ship, he went in and fired 300 people in a day.
Robby:Yeah, 300 people in a day. Yeah, he said he went and fired he had a department of 47 people, went and closed the whole department. That's it. How good is that? Fucking brutal. But business is brutal. It has to be. Business is brutal, yeah, and you know what? You know what? I guarantee you he's probably hired more people now. Yes, Now coming out of it, he's probably got a bigger team making a more positive impact on the economy now than what he would have had his hell on to everyone.
George:He got roasted when he got rid of all those people. Yeah, got absolutely annihilated and he's like no, I need to protect the core, I need to protect the ship. Yes, it's hard. I feel bad. I don't want to let these people go. They're good people and some of them are high performers. Yeah, and his family and his livelihood and his career and his reputation and everything.
George:And that's a huge mistake that I made during COVID. I kept everyone and everything. I looked after everyone and everything. My clients, my employees, everyone and the business suffered immensely as a result of that. We'd lost a huge amount of dollars and it wasn't the right move. It was a mistake. I made a nearly fatal error for the business. You learned Absolutely. I will never do that again. The next time a COVID comes around, I'm going to look at it and I'm going to go. Excellent, you, you, you. Thank you for your service. See you later, mr Client. By the way, here's your notice of delay. Here are our delay costs. I'm not paying that. Excellent, we'll put your project on hold until such time that you're ready, but, as per our contract, bang, bang, bang. So I'm prepared now, and that's not me being an asshole. That's me being protecting the business and doing what's within my moral and ethical obligation to the business, to myself, to the project, to everything you know who says the same thing?
Robby:um, kerwin ray. Shout out to kerwin cool, get him on the, get him on the category. Yes, give him a call. Oh, no, um, he says the same thing. He's like your job as the captain is to keep the ship afloat, he's. If it means you need to throw people overboard to keep most of the thing for now, that's what you need to do. It's like cause there's no point holding onto everyone and the whole ship sinks and everyone dies. That's stupid. You're better off surviving the storm and then pulling these people back up. They're most likely not going to die, that's right. They're going to be okay. Yeah, they might get. It might be a little bit rough, but they'll be okay and then you can get them back or they'll find. You know what I mean.
Robby:Like there's always a we think we think too short term. Yeah, as humans, we're thinking about. You know how lunch is going to make you feel, not how, if I eat a salad for the next 30 days, how good that's. Yeah, you know what I mean. So true, it's, we think in this small and that's that's half problem. It's the way we think we're taught to think about. Do you reckon it's got something to do with, like biology and the way we because like, yeah, right now we live in a world where, you know, path of least resistance, no, no more. So we have more chance. Survival rates now are higher than ever. Absolutely they are, but back in the day it wasn't, and it was like a.
Robby:My mom says this and I say to her like something about next month. And she says like, oh, let's live to next month first. And I'm like you're probably going to live to next month. Like, statistically speaking, nothing happens. You're going to live to next, like you know what I mean. But it's like, don't spend your money before you've earned it. Yeah, See what I mean.
Robby:Yeah, and that might be the problem too, man, the way we think Like, why do we think like that? Why do we? I feel like that's the limit, because you need to see the big picture. You've got to play the long game. Yeah, absolutely, you want to learn. We talk about hey also. Also, I get helicopter lessons. Man, you should come. You're actually doing it Me. Yeah, where I can fly a helicopter, isn't it? No shit, it's sick. How good is it? It's so much fun. Yeah, is it really it's so much? It's about 500 bucks a lesson. This is all right. I want to get my helicopter lesson. Absolutely, I'm going to land a sick um, but I'm doing it if you're not only the one. Oh okay, that's sick. Yeah, dude, trust me, we'll go together.
George:Yeah, that's cool um, last time I was in a helicopter sick though as in I got I felt the motion sickness, which was really odd. I didn't think I would get it, because I'm fine on boats, I'm fine on planes, but I remember once when I was on my honeymoon, funny enough, uh, 10 years ago, we claimed to go see something a helicopter and as soon as it took off, I'm like holy shit, what was that? And then the whole trip I was like man, this is not me, I don't know if it was just that particular helicopter or whatever it was, but yeah, I didn't love it. That might be a problem. I'll give it a crack. I've got some issues, it is. So. Did you actually on your first lesson?
Robby:you grab the stick and away you go. Yeah, you sit down first lesson. You sit down and you go through everything in person with him. Yeah, like they explain what everything is. This does this, this does that, this is this. When you do this, you need to do that. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, let's go. So about an hour you spend an hour one-on-one Teaches you everything you does.
Robby:Their injector seat now. They got like, okay, now straight up um into the chopper. But he so he's got controls as well. Yeah, so he's like he'll take off and then he'll be in the air. And then so there's three controllers and he'll be like okay, cool, I'm gonna control two. You take one. Yeah, right, so he'll be like you control this. Yeah, okay, cool, let it go. Okay, I've got it. I want you to now control this thing. Yeah, so you do all the pedals, control the pedals, only pedals, and then you'll just control pedals. And they were like okay, good, now control this. They were like okay, I'm going to give you two now and I'll take one. Yeah, and then he'll hand it over to you slowly. So you take two, he'll take one, and then he'll this guy's a pro.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, like if you stuff something up. He's going to punch in there, knock it out and take over, Like, but he also shows you how dangerous the helicopter is. Yeah, I could imagine it would be. It took me sideways, like we were sideways in the helicopter, I was going to throw up and then he made the helicopter drop fast. Yeah, he's like, if you do this, this is what happens. And we just went like and I was like, oh, like my stomach almost came out of my mouth. Man, like he's like, so don't do that. I was like, all right, and thanks if I can tell me like that he was a pilot, um, pilot flyer, uh, army pilot, definitely, um, but yeah, really really fun but so is it.
George:How lessons do you have to do to get your license? It's either 30 or 50 hours. Oh, so it just comes into hours To hours. Yeah, so was that 500 bucks a lesson? Is that for an hour? That was 47 minutes of flying, yeah, that day. Yeah, so it's a fair investment to get your license then.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, it'll be like a 25, 30k and that is just to get your private license, not commercial. So you can't fly for money. You can't fly for money? Oh okay, you can just fly for money. There's a lot of stuff you need to understand, like you need to get on the thing alpha pilot, something you know, taking off from here, and then you've got to wait for approval and they're like yep clear, and you get up and you take off and it's. There's a lot to it. Man, I want to have a helicopter good, why not? Why not, dude? Helicopters are 100 grand. People buy cars worth more than helicopters you can.
George:You can get some good ones too. Remember that one I sent you. It looks sick.
Robby:Yeah, they're like 100 150k cool chopper. Why would you not for?
George:150k. Why would you not have a look? You know if you lived in the. How fast did I go? Out of curiosity, I wonder how fast I can go some of these choppers.
Robby:I think we'll go on about 200k. Yeah, that's pretty quick. Yeah, it doesn't feel like 200k, you know it's like, but I so to give you an idea, I flew from essendon airport and he was just flying around there, and then I flew from there and I flew all the way to the west gate bridge and all the way to the MCG and then all the way back to Essendon Airport.
George:No shit, yeah, not long. Yeah, because if you had, say, a property in Mansfield, which is probably a few hours away from Melbourne, yeah, you could fly a chopper there, no worries, and I think a lot of people do, because there's such big blocks and open blocks yeah, you get there like 20 minutes. Blocks, an open block yeah, you get there like 20 minutes. Yeah, as opposed, and talking about leveraging time now, yeah, let's talk about it, you know what I mean. And then you can come here and you're like great, let's go to wherever he's going to go. So, yeah, when you come back here, though, is I imagine you can only land at airports and stuff like that. I would assume there's just, there's airspace rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So can't just be coming here, alba Park and put it in the middle of an oval and, just like, hey, just lived here, drop it on Bay Street, put the, put the steering wheel lock on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, lock the wheel. That's it. Bike chain yeah, bike chain.
Robby:Yeah, um, yeah, worked at Mercedes. Have I told you this story? You've told me a few Mercedes ones. There was a guy at around so we used to have Smoko at 11, 11?, 10?, maybe 10. It was 10. We used to have Smoko at 10 and it was a 20 minute break or a 15 minute break or something, and whenever we used to come back in, there used to be always a guy coming in or taking off on the chopper on the building next door. We're in South Melbourne and every day at the same time On top of his building. Yeah, he'd land a chopper on the top of the building. So that's cool.
Robby:Yeah, it was just a black chopper. I could never see who was in it. Could never see who was in. It could never see anything. We'd just every day, almost every day, at a similar time. I remember it was like maybe a year where it was like consistent and you'd just see at the same time it was like 10.30, the chopper was you'd see the chopper car. It was close, it was very close to the dealership. Yeah, so you'd see it or you'd hear it. It was like right there and you'd see it landing and you're like who's this guy that's choppering into work every day, man.
George:Imagine not sitting in traffic. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Hey, I'm just going to go to the office now. They could live anywhere within a 50K radius and be in work in 10 minutes.
Robby:Mercedes-Benz used to have this chopper service where, if you were like a high-end client, they would pick you up from the airport in a helicopter in a helicopter, fly you out to the dealership, yeah, and you'd be there in four minutes, as opposed to sitting in like 45 minutes of traffic, and it wasn't ridiculously.
Robby:It might have been like a thousand bucks or something yeah, how good's that yeah, dude, if you're in a rush and you need to go pick up your way back or your s-class and you're like not fucking around, yeah, hurry up like I need. I can't be wait, I can't kill a whole hour here. You know what I mean. You walk in and have the car ready to go and you boom and then within seven minutes you're in your car. You just landed at the airport.
George:In seven minutes you're in your car and that's one other thing that people have a limiting belief on. It's like how valuable your time is. They don't get it, and we teach this at our events as well, to help people understand what an hour of their time is worth and what it means to them. Like if you're trying to make $10 million this year, an hour of your time is worth a lot of money, and that's what these super wealthy people and super successful people understand. They leverage their time.
Robby:So you know the biggest objection when I get, I tell people something like that, I say, well, do you need that much money?
George:Again, limiting belief. Why wouldn't you have that much money? Yeah, 100%. So you can answer the question with the question why wouldn't you? What's the difference? Oh, money is the root of all evil. Oh, it's greedy. It's greedy to have that much money. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
George:I reckon people would do more to get money than what people with money do to get it. People without money yeah, people without money would do worse things to get it. So they say money is the root of all evil. So if you don't have money, you're probably willing to do more evil things to get the money, whereas if you've got a lot of money, you're probably not going to do evil things to get more money, or you're not going to do evil things with your money. Yeah, I agree.
George:So it's that limiting belief. Do you know what it is? It's people who have given up. It's people who have given up on ever having that in their life and justifying their shitty existence about not having the things that they want. Oh no, we don't need that, or they'll look at you as a successful person and they get upset at the person that they dreamed they would be one day. They get upset because that could have been them and it's not, yes. So they'll bring you down as a result and say oh well, he's clearly a trust fund baiter or he's a drug dealer, because he's daddy's car, daddy's 30, ferrari. He obviously never made that himself.
Robby:You know, and the biggest impact I feel like with that is what are you unknowingly teaching your kids?
George:How funny. I was at footy training the other day with I coach under 10s. Now, there it is my son's team and one of the kids rock up and he's wearing a shirt and shorts, a shirt, a button up shirt from. He's come straight from school. Now, not many public schools have button up shirts as their attire, especially in primary school, and I heard something that caught my ear straight away.
George:One of the kids like oh, charlie, do you go to a private school? As if giving this kid shit because of his success or his parents' success. Going to a private school. Because they all knew that, oh, you go to a private school, that's a lot of money From such a young age. They all knew that, oh, you go to a private school, that's a lot of money From such a young age. They all knew that. And the perception from that kid it's like he was teasing him because he goes to a private school and I found that interesting. I didn't say anything. I was going to, but I was on the other side of the drill that we were doing. I was going to say to him I was going to pull him up on it. So doing I was going to say to him I was going to pull him up on it, so what? It's excellent that his parents are in a position to put him in a great school, but that's how old are the kids? Nine.
Robby:Yeah, nine, ten, something like that. And when you're nine, they're not your thoughts, that's your parents' thoughts.
George:Yeah, but that comes on to what exactly you were saying. It's rubbing off onto the children. They're going to have those limiting beliefs. What do you think is going to happen to this kid when he's 20? I'm not sending my kid to a private school.
Robby:I'm not doing that. I don't know If we make $10 million, that's greedy people. Yeah, I don't want to be greedy, yeah.
George:I went to a public school and fine, Everything worked out for me and it was good. Two, three weeks ago had an inspection, a tour of a private school in the area.
Robby:Let's just post our conversation. Which one, jeanette Remember?
George:when we were talking public-private. Yes, it was. Yeah, it was. How was it? I wanted to go back to school. I'm not a public school.
Robby:No, or because this was such a cool school because I couldn't fucking.
George:It was like Hogwarts. You don't know what Hogwarts is. Fuck what you know. Do you know what Hogwarts is? He doesn't watch movies. The guy's off his head. I mean, it's not like it's. This is well. He reads books. He reads books. He reads books. I know everyone knows Hogwarts. Everyone knows Hogwarts.
George:It's like the most prestigious school. It's a Harry Potter thing. It's a school for wizards. But anyway, this place what I'm getting at is it was so grand and I looked at it and I was like how could I not send my kid here? Oh well, how could I not send him here? And it wasn't specific, it wasn't because of the grandeur of the school itself, it was the opportunities that it gave him. If he wanted to be a swimmer, there's an indoor pool. If he wanted to be a scientist, a pool at the school. That's the tip of the iceberg. Okay, my school barely had an oval. Yeah, that's right, and that's what, living in a bayside area where I'm at, there's. The land is scarce, so a lot of the public schools around here don't have ovals. They don't.
George:They just don't have the room to have facilities like they don't have an oval yeah, a lot of them don't they'll use a local club oval or something like that. Yeah, that's what it's like out here, anyway, back to what I was saying. So it was the opportunities that it's going to give him to excel in whatever aspect of his life that he's going to. Is he going to and use that to his full potential? Who knows? But? Or them both, my kids but is he going to? I'm not giving him the same opportunity at public school? So I look at that now and this is coming from a person that's very much not a believer in the school system either, but I was impressed because it goes okay. This is going to really help them as far as whatever they want to drive in their passion, they can be pushed in that direction.
George:The other thing I really liked is it's mandatory to do a sport. No matter how good or bad you are, you have to do a sport all the way to year 12. You have to play an instrument up until year nine, and what I liked about that was you're setting a standard. You're saying, no, this is what we do, we. We are going to achieve excellence. We are going to do this now. Playing a sport isn't just you need to be good at a sport or you need to do. It's being active. You need to be healthy and fit and move your body. You're not going to sit behind a computer screen all day, every day I think it teaches like competition as well.
George:Yes, the competition it definitely, yes, the winning aspect having all those sorts of things. So the mindset that it's going to breed in that regard, I think, is fantastic an instrument. It can help with creativity. They may hate playing the saxophone or the drums or the piano, but at least it can. They'll have a skill that they can utilize and if they want to take it further, they can it also. It also teaches you how to learn. That's right. So there's that's right. So that's what I really liked about the school. Walking through it and going okay, well, I've got to send my kid here because of the opportunities it's going to give them in the future. You sound like you're sold. Oh, I was sold a hundred percent. I was like sign me up here, take it, taking my money now. Now it was also what?
Robby:grade? Did you study? He's in four.
George:So he's got a couple Fuck. Are you already looking at high schools, or is it five? What grade is he in? Shit, I don't even know. Anyway, sort it out, surely you don't.
Robby:I'm sure I can figure it out, but it's only five. Now High school. You're looking at high schools. Where are we?
George:No schools. Where are we? No, it's four. It's four, grade four. So I was in nine. What year are we in four? 25, 24, yeah, so he's in grade four. So, and that's late to have applied.
George:People apply when they're born. If I can know, that's what it's like. People apply when their kids born to a certain school. So the earlier on the list, the closer you're, the more likely you are to get in there. And if you've been there before and you have brothers, husbands, husbands, fathers, kids, whatever, you're more likely to get in. So, aside from that, what else I liked was the flow and effect. Think about who you're around. Massive part, the connections, yeah, the connections of the people that you're sitting next to right, the caliber of the people that you're sitting next to, all right, the caliber of the, even from my perspective. Let's go real. Out there, my son's going to become, or my daughter, they're going to become friends with someone. Now that person's going to be let's have a level of assumption here that they're generally well off. If you're sending your kid or kids to school, it's often hundreds of thousands of dollars.
George:They're paying, you know, 30, 50, 80k a year. A lot of these. Some people have businesses, other people don't.
Robby:So it's kind of like your disposable income. They stand up being doctors or some sort of something. That's a you know multiple six-figure income, correct, and probably both the parents too.
George:Yeah, I like that to a degree. So look at the connection there. So me as a builder? Say they go oh, what are you doing? So I'm a builder? Oh, mate, I'm actually looking to do my new home in Turak. Can you have a look at it for me? Absolutely yeah, they pay for all their schooling for six years in one project.
Robby:Look at that connection. No shit, it's true, dude. You just need to meet one person that is super true.
George:and, and think about it from the perspective of people playing a small game. Okay, us doing this podcast, okay, what's to say that we don't have a person that said that sits on this podcast? That changes our life completely. It's. Would that a person have ever sat here? Would that person have ever sat here? Would that person have ever sat here If we never made the commitment six months ago to do this podcast? Probably not. And you know what? What if we do it for a year? Oh fuck, this is hard work. Actually, what if it was the 105th episode but we gave up at a hundred? We just wanted to hit a hundred episodes, but we, the 105th person was going to change our life. People play a small game. They're like oh, why are you doing that? So much effort? This is effort. This is effort. I just said to you before we sat down I am busier now than I have ever been in my life in business and you still take the time, and I'm still fucking taking half a day to sit here with you and have this chat.
Robby:And you prompt this. Sometimes You're like, hey, should we book in a?
George:Oh yeah, I know, if I don't, I won't book it in for three weeks. I know what I'm like and then, because my calendar gets full, you'll call me up and say, hey, you available Thursday. I said you tripping, yeah, tripping, but yes, let's do it. So this is what I mean. It's not necessarily saying you guys to go and start a podcast, but what aspect of your life do you need to make more effort and play a bigger game? You're going to get t-shirts made up like that. Play a bigger game.
Robby:Have you read 100 Million Dollar Leads? I've listened to it. Yeah, Do you remember the?
George:Green Dice story.
Robby:If you tell me again, I probably will, when he talks about you play a game and you and your friend are going to play a game, yeah, so you and I are going to play a game, right, and we both get a dice. There's two dice, and one has 20 sides on it and the other one has 200. And they both have one side that's green and the rest are red. The game works like this Every time you roll a green, you at one more one of the reds goes green and you get to roll again. If you roll a red, you nothing happens, but you get to roll again. And if you, the only way the game stops is if you stop rolling. And if you stop rolling, you lose. And you don't know how much sides on your dice. You can't see it. You can only see if you roll green or red. So so what do you do? You roll, you roll, and you roll a red and you pick it back up and you roll again and you roll a green and one more side turns green and you pick it back up and you roll again. And the only way you lose is if you stop rolling. Yeah, and then, whether you have the dice with one side or, sorry, 20 sides or 200 sides, you're going to you have to roll again. That's the next step. Yeah, and eventually you'll hit a green. And then you hit another green and then you'll get on a green streak because the odds of hitting green are more and more likely. Yeah, and then he says he gives you the content. He's like your friend rolls a dice and he looks at. He says he gives you the content. He's like your friend rolls the dice and he looks at you and he sees you get a green and he gets a red and he says, oh, you must have got the dice with less sides. And then he rolls again and he keeps rolling, rolling right, and he finally hits a green. At this point he's so frustrated that he says, oh, but look how long it took. And he's not even happy about getting the green anymore. He's so focused on oh but oh. But look at you know he's rolled three greens, comparing himself to you. And what does he do? He gets frustrated, rolls again, sees a red and he's like fuck this, you must have got the dice with less sides, I'm not going to play anymore. And he stops rolling and he quits. So he loses.
Robby:And the whole metaphor analogy is we all get a chance to roll the dice in life, yeah, and whether you have the dice with 200 sides or who had which dice, who had the 20 sides and who had the 200 sides, you don't know. The reality is it doesn't matter, because we look at other people and we see what other people have, but what we don't understand is how long they've been rolling for and we don't know if they've rolled it three times or if they rolled it 300,000 times. You know what I mean. But the reality is everyone has a chance to roll the dice in life. Most of us don't take the opportunity, but if you roll, there is a chance you'll hit green. That's such a great story, isn't it? It's a sick story, dude. I love it. He compares it with the, and I probably completely. No, I think you nailed that. That was good.
Robby:He talks about how the game of advertising is like this, because you can't win if you don't roll, and the more you roll, the better you get at it. He goes, but we all look at that one person who you know he's killing it now he goes. What we don't understand is that person could have rolled a hundred thousand times. You know, what I mean to understand is that person could have rolled a hundred thousand times, you know I mean, but we'd see their role now and we think must be easy for them, you know, must be nice, you know I mean. We don't take into the fact that how long has this person been playing this game? For how long has this person been going hard at life to give it the red hot crack? Yeah good, grand cardone outworks every motherfucker like he does. He just he's a machine of a human. He has so much drive compared to 99.9999% of people. But we look at him and think, oh yeah, billionaire must be nice.
Robby:Like 4,000 properties. Fuck yeah, you don't have to do anything. The reality is he probably does more than most now. Now, and he's still massive, yeah, and he's fucking going as hard as he can, in all aspects of his life too.
George:yeah, yeah, the guy's in better shape than most 20-year-olds I've seen these days. He's got high energy. He'll be going like that till the day he dies. You know what I mean. And the funny thing is, what is he? He's in his 60s. He'll probably go for another 30, 40 years. That 40 years, yeah, that's a whole lifetime. Imagine what he's going to do in that time as well. He's not holding back. The guy's going going all out. But we don't do that. We don't. And you know what a great story.
George:And I feel that I had this conversation with a person that I, that we both know, a builder. He called me up the other day and he's rolling reds every day. That happens, yeah, it does it. Does you get kicked in the face? That's like every day.
George:Even when you roll greens, you still roll reds. Yeah, you know, I mean, even once you've got the majority rolling greens, you're gonna have a day where reds yeah, you're gonna hit a red. That's the it's. It's going to happen. But it's the mindset that you have behind that to keep you going through until you roll another green, and that's what the that's. Again, this is pre-training. This is when I say pre me being trained in that space and this is where I've probably been had a really good mindset is during COVID. I was rolling breads every day, but I always believed the green was coming. Yeah, you just had to keep had unwavering doubt Another day, another week, another month, another year. It's going to be green, it's going to get better, we'll be right Keep going, don't stop. I never doubted it and I never gave up and, as a result, now I'm rolling more greens. He closes it out with.
Robby:I'll leave you with one thought If you don't quit, you can't lose. So true, just fucking roll again. So true, let's go again. Okay cool, that didn't work, let's roll again.
George:Yeah, so funny because I'm having people. There's people in my life now that I know who are reaching out to me. Funny enough because of I don't know, maybe because of how I've been with the podcast, with just trying to explode on socials and everything we're doing and they see the mindset and they're reaching out to me and asking me for advice during their difficult times and it's good I've been able to help and provide some advice and write and put them in a direction that again I tell them look, this is just opinions. You ultimately need to make the decision for what's good for you. But this is what has worked for me.
George:And one of them was a builder that we both know. He called me up and we had a conversation. He was going through a pretty tough time and I gave him some business advice. I said you need to do this, mate. This is where you're at. This is what you have to do. You've got to bite the bullet. I told him the uncomfortable truth.
George:We had a couple of jobs that were going really bad and I said listen, one of those jobs is salvageable. Salvage it, go there, have the conversation difficult conversation with the owner, but have it. The other one you need to make a commercial decision. You are going to lose on this, yeah, how much do we lose? It's, how much do you lose, yeah. So you either need to turn to him and say, okay, don't worry, deed of release, this is what it is, or strike a deal. You need to do something because it's not going to go away. It's not going away and then I go, but you've still got some good jobs too. So you also have to focus on those ones and make sure they don't turn into shit jobs. Because what can happen if you don't get rid of those shitty jobs as soon as possible? Your other ones will be affected by it, and then you're not going to want to do those, and then there's going to be a world of hurt for you.
Robby:You know what I love when you're in those moments you're in like you have a shit month, or like sometimes, dude, sometimes things just go through. You know you're banking on these three clients signing and they all can't for the reason not to sign, yep. Or you know you a bunch of works dropped off and you haven't been consistent and you're now you're in the hole, yeah, and it's a shit place to be. But what I say to myself I don't know where I got this from, I got this from, no idea, but it's, it's something along the lines of like this is sick, because how good is the story gonna be after this? Like, at one point I was fucking, you know, I mean couldn't even pay my rent like how good is that part of the story gonna be? Yeah as opposed to yeah. No, it all worked out. Every single, everyone just signed. Do you know what I mean? And no, no, no, no, no, no. There was hard times, dude. Yes, okay, but it's that shit that builds character. Yeah, so true.
George:Do you know what I mean?
Robby:So true. And then here's the best part about it as well the second time you're in the same hole like you do something, and then the second time you're in the same hole. First, ideally, you don't want to be in the same hole twice, but when you're in the same hole again, you're like cool, I've been here.
George:A quote I put up the other day along those lines is one of the greatest forms of motivation is thinking about the person you're going to become as the destination. If you think about that, you go fuck with all these difficulties in my life right now. Who I'm going to be at the end of it? Jeez, if you want your child to be really fit and really healthy, are you going to give him chocolates? Are you going to let him sit down on the TV all day? If you want your child to be resilient, are you going to give him an easy life? Are you going to give some challenges in life? And it's just that those examples are just relevant throughout every stage of your life, yeah, and different areas of your life. You need difficulties, you need to have challenges. You have to. You absolutely have to. If you have it easy your whole life, you won't build character.
Robby:It won't help you. Yeah, and when something does go like that, I know people like that where their parents have given them everything with the greatest intentions. They've absolutely fucked this person up. Now this person has no drive. They can't do anything. They're a flop. They don't know how to think for themselves. They don't know't know how to make decisions but it's like.
George:It's like, but that's not what life's going to be like. You are going to have difficult times, 150 times that are going to be challenging and if you don't have the ability or the mechanisms to handle that, you're going to crumble yeah, and your job as a parent is to make sure that you're you, dude, fuck.
Robby:I heard this thing the other day about parenting and he goes. I can't remember who. I fuck. I got no idea. Watch so much content I know, and it was.
Robby:Someone sat along the lines of this oh, it was russell brand. Yeah, and he goes. Parenting is one of the most amazing things in life. He goes, but he goes. You gotta understand. He goes in the best case scenario as a parent, the best case scenario is you don't see this person grow scenario is you don't see this person. Like you don't see this person at the end of their life. That's the best case scenario. You know what I mean? Worst case is is something horrible happens, but best case scenario as a parent is you don't get to see this person for their whole life, isn't that? When you check it Fuck dude.
Robby:I was like, oh my God, what the fuck? When you start, fuck dude. I was like, oh my god, what the? I was like that's true, like that is that and that's best case. That is like if I could, if I was, if I could play God here for a moment. This is how I'm going to make it and that's what everyone will do. You don't want no one wants to bury their kid. You want to be get to see the kid for the rest of their life. Dude, I know, fucking hell, man. And I was like that is so. The concept is so bizarre. Yeah, like, what a way to put it. I was taken back by it, man. I was like fuck like that, and it's true, that is the best case scenario.
George:My dad says the last gift your parent will ever give you is when they die. That's the last gift they will ever give you, because that's when you can truly become a man or a woman. You are then separated from them and now you are driving the ship. That's the last gift they will ever give you. Yeah, that's so true. I thought about that, not recently, but a long time ago. I was like I got sad once at the fact that my children are going to die one day not recently, not in the future, but one day, like even when they're old and they're 90 years old and I looked at that technically, you shouldn't be around, no, and I'm like I'm, they're going to die, and that made me sad. It's like I want them to live forever as well. Yeah, but you know, in the same token and this is where we're not playing a bigger game, even in life, you know, it doesn't always have to be about money or business or accomplishments, just life. Why are you not playing a bigger game in life? Why do you get home and I did this last night and I was actually fucking shitty at myself I got home and I was on my phone and I was doing this some, I was doing some content, but it was taking me some a while to actually put it together and post yeah, along last night.
George:It was a good post, yeah, I was thinking how do you use? Yeah, I'll tell you, just don't do it when you get home. And then I thought about myself that night. I'm like, yeah, great post, but that I sacrificed half an hour with my kids when I got home. They're on their ipads, I was on my phone and I was on that and most, most people don't that thing. That's all right, big deal. It's half an hour, yeah, but it's half an hour with their kids. I'm never going to get back ever again. I'll never get that back ever again. And I've said to myself like fuck, like sometimes, like you need that, like as in that kick in the face and just go wake up. So I've done that, like I'm gonna put my phone on silent, on, do not disturb, it's gonna go on the charger when I get home tonight yeah, let's see, no one's gonna be able to contact me.
Robby:Do not disturb, do not disturb. And you, you focus, you control your focus.
George:Yeah so, you know, playing a bigger game in your life, like where do you need to have the best relationship with your kids, with your partner? Why not have the best one, not just a mediocre one? And I'm at that age now where I've got a lot of me and my friends. We've all been married for 10 years and we had this conversation just recently and it's like well, 10 years has gone by. You obviously love your partner and all that sort of stuff, but has it been an amazing 10 years? Do you look back and go? That was the best 10 years we've ever had in our life? And the answer is generally no. It's because people are playing a small game.
George:So now I'm just trying to do everything in my power. Like I'm going to Vegas soon with my wife. She knows now. Yeah, she knows now. That's it. I'm sorry, I'm surprised the cat's out of the bag, but you know you post it on Instagram, yeah, but it's going to be fun. Like we're trying to do things to live a really fulfilled life. Yeah, and you should. Your time is limited, that's it. It's limited. You don't have all the time in the world and then one day you're going to wake up and you're going to be 50 or 60 or 70 or 80, whatever it's going to be. That scares me, man it. I'm 40 now this year in July, at 40 still. You're still, I feel young as fuck.
Robby:50s. I feel young as fuck. Yeah, I'm so fine, dude, I feel the same as when I was 21. Yeah, I'm like. People are like do you even grow up? I'm like, no, but that scares me, dude, like when you're not, as when you like, because eventually the physical is going to catch up. Physically it's going to catch up to you. Yeah, eventually. Yeah, and that's why it's so important when you realize that. My fear is when you realize, okay, cool, my peak has passed, because you can be peaking at 50.
George:I'm going to peak now at 40. Yeah, continue to peak. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And the idea is people stop looking after their body. So we're talking about playing so small. Why is it? 90% of the 50-year-olds don't have a six-pack, right? Yeah, I'm fucking that's true. It's because they're playing so small. I'm old now, I don't need to do that. I don't need to lift weights.
George:The choice that you made when you were 30 or 40 not to lift weights is the reason why you don't have a six pack of 50, or why you're not in great shape or strong or health, and part of the reason why of your physical decline in life because I've started to do a lot of research now, because I'm getting healthy and trying to get the best body in my life is people stop building muscle mass and then that allows. That's right. And then that is where disease creeps in, that's where injuries creep in, that's where your back pain and your energy levels and all that sort of stuff creep in, because you don't have muscle mass, because you haven't done anything of discomfort for 30 years, 20 years Training, physical training, like strength training, is so important, so important, so important, so important.
Robby:Yeah it's. I've got that fear of that decline.
George:Yeah, but I don't think you'll get it in the sense if you commit to it, like if you commit to not going on the decline. That's all it comes down to man and you do. You're disciplined enough in the sense that you do your ice baths, you do a lot of things that, excuse me, are healthy and benefit your life, and as long as you continue on that trajectory, I think you'll be okay. I had a sad story. A family friend of mine, really close to our family, passed away and they were in their 60s, so my parents' age, and they'd worked their whole life. And they were in their 60s, so my parents' age, and they'd worked their whole life, worked their whole life, really successful business, beautiful family, three kids, everything. Everything was going well and they retired. They retired in, you know, whenever it was, say, three, four years ago. And when they retired they started to feel a bit shit, went to the doctor for a checkup and had terminal cancer and from that point on it was a steady decline over the next three years and then late last year passed away.
George:Now I remember at the funeral that was there. Obviously everyone's really upset and crying and devastated really, because it was sad and this is we were talking about like they had worked their whole life. They dedicated their life to their business, to the, to the things, and then when they retired now we're going to live our life, we're retired, now we're going to have enjoy our things, you know. And she's left behind her husband and the kids, and now you know that they were supposed to, together, go on that journey and reward themselves for all the hard work they did. And look, whilst they may not regret what they've done they still did lots of great things and lived an amazing life but it's really sad because it's like they started to travel, they were going to go do all these amazing things and now they're never going to get that opportunity to do that.
George:And one thing I saw at the funeral which was really sad was both parents were alive, so her parents. She was in her 60s and their parents were obviously older too. They were devastated. It was a devastating thing and that's, you know, as sad as it might be, with Russell Brand, as he said, I'm never going to see them for my whole life. I'd do that. You'd pick that. Yeah, russell Brand, as he said, I'm never going to see them for my whole life.
Robby:I'd do that, you'd pick that. Yeah, that's the best case, that's the best. That was why it was bizarre. Yeah, not because, like, when you think about it, you're like it's normal, like progression of life, yeah, but then you think that is best case scenario.
George:Like, and then you stop and you think fuck like anything else is worse. Guys, if this doesn't motivate you to live your life like what will, what will? What do you need now in your life to motivate you to just live it to the absolute extreme and fullest and have so much love, so much happiness? It's so like our time is so scarce. I remember my dad when we were young going I remember when I was your age to us, even when I was 20, like 18, he goes I used to be 20. I remember that because I don't feel any different, and he was 40 when he was saying that to me.
Robby:Do you want to walk people through the week exercise Weeks?
George:Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely Okay. How can we do this? So I want you. Most people now are going to live to 90. Let's just as a rule of thumb. Technology is at the space where we are going to live to 90, probably past 100. The technology is there, the health is there, the drugs, everything's there to keep us alive. They're going to do this at the same time. They haven't done it for a while. Cool. So I want you to deduct your age, your current age, from 90. Okay, so let's do it with Robbie. Robbie, give us your number 32. So 32 off 90 is 58. So you're at 58. Now I want you to multiply 58 by 52.
Robby:I'm good at math, so 58 times 52.
George:3,016. 3,016. If you live to 90, you have 3,016 weeks left on this planet If you live to 90. Could be less? Could be more.
Robby:When you think about it properly, it's not that much, huh no?
George:3,000 weeks, dude. So I've got a Post-it note in my office and on it has a number, and every single week that I come into work on the Monday I take one Post-it note off and I throw it in the bin and then you write the new number. Yeah, and I write the new number. So see, that's another week gone, that's one week less. If I'm going to live to 90, assuming I will probably live more, probably 150, but that's cool, but assuming I get to 90, that's how many weeks I have left to do what I want to do. Now. The first time I did that exercise I was like is that all?
Robby:Is that how many weeks I've got 3,000 weekends, yeah, 3,000 weekends.
George:That's it. That's it. Another thing was and this is probably more relevant in we've said this before in previous podcasts it's like how often do you see your parents If they live in state? Imagine your parents live in state. How often do you see them? Once, twice a year. So then, if they're getting on in age two, say they're in their eighties, and you see them once, twice a year, you've got 15 to 20 more times that you're going to see them in their lifetime. That's it. That's it. That's fucked. It is fucked. Yeah, when I heard that for the first time, I was like, yeah, when I heard that, you know, you got to go see. You got to go see people like that. It's got to be like, if you care about them, like if you don't care, each their own, but that's what you've got. You've got 15 to 20 moments left for their life and you're sitting here complaining and bitching and moaning that you have to go over there for dinner or take a flight there. You should be grateful that you are able to that you get to.
Robby:That is so true, man. Yeah, that is so true. Time is scarce and we don't get it back, and the reality is most people waste it.
George:So true, most people waste it. Most people do. You're trapped in the rat race. You're trapped in your own bullshit. You're not even paying attention to what you're doing. You're not paying attention Like you have just got tunnel vision.
Robby:How much did you get done before 9 am this morning? Yeah, how much did you get done before 9 am this morning? You know most people start work at night. Did you barely do anything and you just woke up and barely got to work half asleep? Autopilot, yeah. And then you, by 10 am, you're awake. Yeah, yeah. Did you lose that whole time? Or did you get up earlier and go train or go do exercise or go for a walk or do something or read a book or spend time with kids, or you don't get breakfast with your kids. Do something. Find a way to utilize your time to the best ability. If you want to play a game, Play a bigger game.
George:It does, it does. Yeah, this podcast went. I thought it was going to be more achievement and business orientated, so it's cool that we touched on the lifestyle side of things. It went that way. Yeah, really cool. I think it's so important, so important Just to play a bigger game. Man, there's so many people out there doing the most extreme of things and we have that limiting belief that we can never achieve that, that we'll never have those things. We will never do it. You need to get out of your own way. You got to stop thinking like that. You have to. It is seriously the most detrimental thing to you in your life.
Robby:So, personally, if you haven't done that exercise, take two minutes and do it and go do it properly. And look at that number and just think like, if I'm going to plan all my weekends now, this is the amount I get to plan and depending on how old you are, mine was 3,000. I'm 32 years old. Probably some of the stuff I don't want to do when I'm 70. Yeah, exactly. So, okay, cool, okay, cool. Well then, if I halve that from 32 to 60, I've got 1500 weekends. Yeah, then it's like okay, cool. What's like? There's some stuff I'm probably not going to want to do past 60. So what do I do? I need to plan that in the next 1500. Yeah, do you know what I mean? If I want to go have a four-week trip in south america, I to do that sooner, if I want to go, you know what I mean. And that's four out of 50. I'm going to lose four weekends.
George:Yeah, that's it. You got to use it. Is it worth it?
Robby:Yeah, and then you're like, fuck, I'm going to lose four out of these 400. Four of my weekends. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Cool, what am I doing with my time, man? Like it changes. Um, our concept of reality is blurred, like our perception of reality, sorry, is blurred. Yeah, we don't see things for what they are, we just see things for what's right in front of us right now too cool, too good.
George:Do the exercise. Do the exercise and hopefully it changes your perspective on things and you just start looking at how you can play a bigger role in your life and you might even just have a nine to five job. It doesn't mean you can't do some sick shit during that time. Why not be the best at your nine to five? Why not be promoted to the highest at your nine to five? Why not plan your whole year of holidays from now? We've still got a lot of the year left. Take the most and make the most out of your time off from work.
Robby:There is a gentleman who Tony Robbins refers to a lot. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but he thought he was a janitor, yeah right, and he amassed a level of wealth never worked. Another job was a janitor the whole time, just invested and invested early, and he amassed a level of wealth never worked. Another job was a janitor the whole time, just invested and invested early, and he amassed a level of wealth of like $100 million just from stock market long-term investing, s&p 500, consistency, and built a level of wealth utilizing compound interest.
George:Yeah, driving his Lambo into clean toilets.
Robby:Yeah, I guess, but that's all he worked. That's all he worked. So don't put a limit on, regardless of what you do and if you don't like what you do do something about it, change.
George:If you hate your job, if you hate your scenario, if you hate the position in your life right now, you can change it. No one else I'm not coming to help you either. I'm not looking for you you need to go and change it. You need to do that shit yourself. You've got to take responsibility for everything in your life. You've got to take it. Don't be one of those people that make excuses. I hate excuses. I try to not make excuses in all aspects of my life and when I do, I try to pull myself up on it, because if you make an excuse, you're giving something or someone else the power. If you take extreme responsibility, then you have the power to control any scenario in your life.
Robby:Dude, I read this book I can't remember the author's name, the name is something along the lines of the Illusion of Money or something like that, and it's a great book, and he talks about how anytime we justify anything we're doing, it's not coming from our highest self. He goes anytime you have to justify why you do something, it's not coming from your highest self, cause if it's coming from your highest self, you never justify it, you just do it. Do you know what I mean? If you don't, you love your kids, right? Um, pretty sure, I think so. You never, ever, justify anything you do for your kids. Yeah, you don't have to sit there. No, I'm doing this because they're all right. You don't do that because it's coming from your highest self, yeah. So anytime you're sitting there and you justify your position or you justify something, understand that it's not coming from your higher self and there's probably something better out there for you. And unconsciously, you know it. Consciously, you need to know it.
George:Man on that note. How good is that. I don't want to say anything else after that. That's such a good way to finish off the podcast. That's it Just hanging up. You're not going to hear anything else. Silence, excellent, thanks for excellent. Thanks for the chat, mate. That was good. That was a good chat today, and I reckon I don't even need to. I'm pumped. I know people are getting a gonna get a lot out of that. Hey, do you know what I'm pumped about? You told me the other day that this podcast has had over a thousand downloads well over a thousand.
Robby:How good is that? We're gonna be a thousand a month through that. Oh, stop it, stop it sick. Thank you for everyone, seriously. No, everyone that listens, everyone that um tunes in all the time. We appreciate it. Seriously. I'm also going to be looking at. I was actually thinking about this yesterday alone. I watched a podcast yesterday and at the start he said we're surveying everyone and I was like, hey, we should do that. So we're probably going to survey everyone over the next few weeks and just just want some feedback. What do you like, what don't you like? Which topics really resonate, what do you want to hear more of? So we'll be reaching out to every single one of you.
George:We know We'll work out how we're going to find you. As soon as you download, we get all your personal details your Amex, your address, copy of your passport. We know it all. I know who you are. I know how long you've listened for. I know you are. I know how long you've listened for. Yeah, I know. If you just randomly came past it and said, oh, we'll just listen to 10 minutes, didn't like it, and then never come back, we'll find you particularly.
Robby:Yeah, we will knock on your door. We'll do it. We'll. It'll be in the description on youtube and in the show notes.
George:On the show notes on spotify and, as always, as always, in the top right hand corner. Yeah, of course, top right hand corner. That's the most important part of this show. Wherever you listen to it On every platform, it's in the top right-hand corner. I've done my research. I spent extensive hours. You spoke to the CEOs of each organization, put it in the top and they said, if it wasn't, they were going to. Yeah, so post. At the time that you're hearing this top right-hand corner, there's a subscribe button and you need to click it.
Robby:You have to Someone somewhere looking at the top right corner like what the fuck is going on?
George:What are they talking about. You got to hit it. You have to because you might be listening, but it may not mean you're subscribed, and if you're not subscribed then you can't listen to all the little gems that we give you guys, week in, week out, awesome. Thank you very much, guys. Speak to you soon, thanks guys.