Ever wondered how mentorship could not just brighten your day but also double your bank account? Brace yourselves for a revelatory journey through the entrepreneurial landscape, where mentorship and networking are your trusty guides. We're peeling back the layers of success with the serendipitous wisdom imparted by none other than Patrick Bet-David via the 'MyNext' app. Revel in the tales of personal growth, the sheer importance of positive perception, and how a single piece of advice can pivot your entire approach to business and life.
Prepare to have your preconceptions challenged in our candid discussion on the gender pay gap and women in the workforce. With a hypothetical business scenario, we question the logic fueling the wage disparity debate, and we don't stop there. We dive into the societal and governmental pressures on women, the undervaluation of motherhood, and the intricate dance of communication styles that shape gender roles and career trajectories. It's a no-holds-barred examination of the narratives that drive our professional lives and how we can navigate them with a fresh perspective.
As we round out this episode, the focus shifts to the delicate balance of work and personal life, where gender dynamics and modern relationships take centre stage. Sharing from personal experiences, we explore the support systems that bolster us through tumultuous times and the pivotal role of mental health in maintaining productivity. Plus, we're teasing a financial surprise that's set to turn heads and reaffirm the power of taking strategic action. Tune in for an episode that promises to not only reflect on the strides we've made but also inspire action towards a future brimming with success.
Ever wondered how mentorship could not just brighten your day but also double your bank account? Brace yourselves for a revelatory journey through the entrepreneurial landscape, where mentorship and networking are your trusty guides. We're peeling back the layers of success with the serendipitous wisdom imparted by none other than Patrick Bet-David via the 'MyNext' app. Revel in the tales of personal growth, the sheer importance of positive perception, and how a single piece of advice can pivot your entire approach to business and life.
Prepare to have your preconceptions challenged in our candid discussion on the gender pay gap and women in the workforce. With a hypothetical business scenario, we question the logic fueling the wage disparity debate, and we don't stop there. We dive into the societal and governmental pressures on women, the undervaluation of motherhood, and the intricate dance of communication styles that shape gender roles and career trajectories. It's a no-holds-barred examination of the narratives that drive our professional lives and how we can navigate them with a fresh perspective.
As we round out this episode, the focus shifts to the delicate balance of work and personal life, where gender dynamics and modern relationships take centre stage. Sharing from personal experiences, we explore the support systems that bolster us through tumultuous times and the pivotal role of mental health in maintaining productivity. Plus, we're teasing a financial surprise that's set to turn heads and reaffirm the power of taking strategic action. Tune in for an episode that promises to not only reflect on the strides we've made but also inspire action towards a future brimming with success.
I'm so busy that I'm actually thinking of employing more women, because I pay them less and I can take advantage of them in the workplace as far as bully them, harass them, get them to do things I need them to do. What are your thoughts on that this?
George:concept makes women feel as though oh, that's why Jordan Peterson said this, which I found really interesting and completely true. So he goes. There are so many similarities between men and women as far as how we think, how we operate, he goes. But the biggest difference between men and women and he goes. The little differences make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, but the biggest thing. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to million dollar days. I hope you are having a million dollar day. Wait, cracking open a fresh one for the afternoon. Whether you're listening to this morning, noon or night, I like in one open, you're rolling on with it. Yeah, you're listening to this morning, noon or night, cracking one open, you're rolling on with it.
Robby:Yeah, You're rolling on with it. I love it. What's the news, man? Oh, you know. Sunny day, living life. Yeah, Melbourne's turning it on. Another day, Melbourne's bringing it on. By the time this episode comes out.
George:It's going to be horrible Probably raining Sun will come out at some stage and it'll be Howling Winds. That old chestnut How's life? Good, good Life is good. Life's always good. It's always what you make it, isn't it? Perception, what you make of it? Yeah, absolutely, man. I speak to so many people throughout my week, throughout my day, and it's amazing how many people are just stuck in the trenches and can't get out of it. It's busy. I'm there. I can't do this, I can't do that. Oh man, how are you Not bad? How are you Shithouse? Yeah, I don't want to be around that and you live in your own.
Robby:Call me later. You live in your own little bubble. I put up a post the other day and I was like there's somethingrated the power of having someone in your corner that can point out your blind spots. Yeah, and I had someone do that for me recently and they were like, hey, they said something and they're like this is what they said. They said you don't like sales. And I said what do you mean? I can sell? He said yeah, but you don't love it. And I just looked at him and I'm like, fuck, you know what? I've had this identity of no, I can tell. So I never questioned that side. He's like, yeah, but you don't love it, because when things are going okay, you don't chase sales. Yeah, true, you're right. Like you are right, you are bang on. Like that is a gap. Do you know what I mean? Sure, and then he's like we didn't get much out of this session today. Like dude, you just gave me so much. Like you just opened my eyes to a whole thing that I wasn't even aware of.
George:Yeah, I had someone like that a mentor of mine, actually, a few months back now I think it was late last year called me up on some shit too, and I was there and I was complaining about you know what? I don't give a shit if I don't grow pascon, in the sense that I'm happy to stay small for the time being. I'm you know, I've had all these shit experiences with all these clients and he calls me up and he's like he goes you're making business decisions based off a couple of bad experiences. He goes you've got an eight-figure construction company. That is really hard to do. 1% of people ever achieve that in their business career.
George:If you're getting to eight figures and you're bitching and moaning because you've had a couple of bad experiences, and he goes you're always going to get the people that complain about the $1 coffee Always at 7-Eleven. You're always going to get those people, but don't let those people dictate the good that you can do in your business and the good that you have done and will continue to do. That's exactly what I was doing. He was calling me up on my shit. I was making bad business decisions because of bad people instead of making good business decisions because of bad people. That's it, it was, and, honestly, since that time, it was just that flick of the switch and goes. Yeah, you're right, let's go and that's the benefit of having someone.
Robby:Oh, dude, have you ever thing called the neck? Yes, patrick Beck, david, you know what. I yeah, all right, listen to this. You're going to buzzer Patrick Beck, david, you know it.
George:Huh, yeah, alright, listen you're gonna buzz there, abd, doing a shout out to you now get some royalties, get some sponsorships. Tell you what? Yeah, listen ready. Yeah, I'm pumped. Listen Robbie. Lots of questions, man, love it. Australia, the one place I think I'm going to shut the fuck up. Cool. Did you get him on the cast? Are we casting what time? Let me, tomorrow. Are we going there?
Robby:let me just share some content. You know what. You know what my next is? Yeah, so Manecht is an application or a software program called OVON and basically you can connect with whoever you want. It's on it, so people go on it and they charge for their time. So that I got to send Patrick, me and David a message and had him answer a couple of my questions. It cost me a hundred bucks, yeah, a hundred US, yep, so worth it. He answered some of my questions, dude. He's like yeah, this is what I would do, this is what you need to be doing. Sounds like this blah, blah, blah, you know. And he sent me a three minute voice message.
George:Do you mind me asking what the question was, what questions I just said?
Robby:dude, this is where my life's at. This is what I want to do. What do you think I need? What do you, what do you think I should do? Yeah, do you know what I mean? And then he's like, yeah, look, you know this, this, that this is what I would do. And then he also said I'd get in touch with, check this guy out, go look up this guy on my neck and see if, um, if he can help you, and see if he can help you out as well. How good, yeah, and I was just like, yeah, did he help out? Yeah, he did. He actually put me in contact.
Robby:And then he gave me someone's number, yeah, and he's like, hey, I've just spoken to this guy. He's in a similar position. He was in a similar position. He did it. I'm gonna pass on your detail. I've spoken to him, he's happy for me to pass on his details, write this number down. And I'm like this is sick, like what a cool concept, how cool, huh, how cool. Oh, dude, I I'm a fan of him and, yeah, I'm just excited. You know what? He's just yeah, I admire what he's done. And I said that to him. I said I admire what you've been able to achieve, like for someone who's done it from the ground up. I admire that. Something like dana white or something right. But to hear him say my name yeah, talk to me about my own I was like, fuck, dude, this is worth way more than what I'm paying.
George:Yeah, and you can have anyone answer you and for him it's not a matter of money, it's not the 100 bucks for three minutes. He didn't go home to his missus and kids and go hey, guess what? I made $100 for three minutes. Keep his boy to hunt Australia $100 for three minutes. It's not about that For him, it was more about cool. Let me give some value to this guy. Have you heard his story?
Robby:about why he made the app. Yes, I do. About the solicitor the phone charge me for 30 minutes. He's like, why? And he's like that's how it works. And he's like, what would you charge by the minute? Yeah, and he's like we don't do that, we don't do that. And he's like, well, why not like? And then he came up with the whole concept of a minute to connect. Yeah, neck the neck, dude, sick I. That was the first time I tried it and I just thought sick. He replied in like minutes. Oh, no shit dude, I did it.
Robby:I did it like nine o'clock in the morning, what's that? Their time, though, I don't know, 10 PM or something. And he replied straight away, like straight away. I couldn't believe it. I was surprised because he he's sitting there on his phone.
George:Did you have to? Did he so to get a question to him? Did it have the right there, or did you just say?
Robby:I'll put a so you pick your rates, so his rates, if I go into him, patrick David. So for a message, it's a hundred bucks, or to book a 15 minute call, it's nine grand. A 15 minute call, yeah, nine grand. Yeah, right, and I jump on like a video call with you. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. So if you have something serious where you need to give him context and it's like a full on, like a, do you think?
George:you think you'd get your value out of 15 minutes with 9k?
Robby:no, that's not.
George:15 minutes is not much it's not a lot of time, is it? Yeah, especially for context, like you'd want to be like, I'm going to spend 10, 15 minutes just explaining my backstory, you know.
Robby:So it's a hundred bucks for a text or audio answer. Most of them do audio though, yeah Cause, then for them it's just easier to yeah. Yeah, man, I would never text Um video answer. 300 bucks.
George:That's it, bffs. Yeah, send him another one to say, hey, we're live on our podcast right now. Yeah, when are you coming? When are you going to jump on? Have a good? Awesome man, I am so busy. I am so incredibly busy right now.
George:I honestly, I look at my calendar and every weekend I've got things on, every single weekend, whether it's business and personal stuff, and it's like the weeks are getting shorter and shorter and shorter, and we're already we're recording this. End of what are we Last day of March March, yeah, end of March coming into the Easter break and I'm looking at all of April is chockers. And then after that, it's like never a dull moment, never a minute for anything. And I'm so busy that I'm actually thinking of employing more women because I pay them less and I can take advantage of them in the workplace as far as bully them, harass them, get them to do things I need them to do. What are your thoughts on that? No comment. Yeah, so you're in support? What? So you're in support of it then? Yeah, obviously, because women are definitely paid less than men, aren't they?
Robby:I see where you're going. Do you see where I'm going with this? I see where you're going with this.
George:So our topic for today is the gender pay gap.
Robby:What pay gap? Yeah, that's question number one.
George:Yeah, exactly right. Do you believe there is a gender pay gap?
Robby:Me.
George:No, no, dude, I have the perfect rebuttal when a chick says that to me Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, because I was even having this conversation with my sister a little while ago. She was like no 100%. Yeah, we're having this conversation. I said you're kidding yourself. I go honestly. If there was a gender pay gap, if that existed in this day and age, then why doesn't everyone hire women? Why wouldn't the big corporates?
Robby:have just women. If a woman did this exact same job as a man, same level, same competency, and I could get you for 80 cents on the dollar, I would be a horrible business person to not hire you Exactly. It would be a bad business decision.
George:Yep, yep, 100%. So why do you think people say it? Oh, actually, what's your rebuttal first? Was that the rebuttal then?
Robby:No, my rebuttal is always, because it usually comes from a female. And then I say, are you in business? And if they are, I say, okay, cool, are all your staff women? And they say no. I say, okay, cool, so you're paying more for staff than you have to. So you're either a bad business person or this is not true. Which one is it? And then it's like and they and they're completely caught out yeah, because they're either going to say, oh yeah, I'm really bad at business, or and then, if you're bad at business, well, that's why you don't get paid as much. Yeah, it's not true. Okay, cool. End of conversation. Yeah, exactly right, yeah.
George:So why do you think that exists? I think it's. Why do you think?
Robby:because I think some people like to take the, some people like to feel sorry for themselves. Don't you think Like people want to feel like, oh, it isn't. You know what I mean? Okay, we've learned different concepts. You learned about like underground influence and one of the things with underground influence, one of the ways they get you on board. So do you want to explain what underground influence is? Yeah, so it's what a lot of cults and yeah, so it's effectively what?
George:yeah, Cults, cult leaders, legends how they influence people's decision to buy into whatever they're talking about or selling.
Robby:And one of the biggest principles around it is people want to feel like it's not their fault. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm, and this concept right, the pay gap makes women feel as though, oh, that's why, like, you know what I mean, and it's like, oh, no, it's not your fault. This is the world we live in, that society, the patriarchy yeah, do you know what I mean? And they talk about it like it's this tyrannical kingdom where, if you're not a man, your life sucks. But it's like look at the world that's been built. Where's the tyranny? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, the sun's out, it's blue skies.
George:Where's the?
Robby:oppression. And look, I do think I'll tell you where I reckon it comes from. It's the oppression.
George:Yeah, and look, I do think I'll tell you where I reckon it comes from. It's they'll see men making significantly more money than what women make. So say, for example, in, just, in general, in any role they'll make, they're the breadwinner, they're the one that makes all the money. The woman doesn't. And when they step in, when the woman steps into the workplace, it's like well, we don't make as much money as you, okay, but you're for the exact same role. Yeah, you're probably right. For a different role, yeah, you're probably right.
George:So a man cleaning the sewers right, and they exist, bombers, whatever they are cleaning sewers, literally shit, human feces gets paid $200,000 an hour. But a female teacher gets paid $200,000 a year, for example. And then another woman gets 80 grand as a teacher. She says, oh, you see, there it is, there's the gender pay gap. Hang on, it's not the same job. But that's where I think a lot of it comes from. Well, because he's a man, he gets paid $200,000 an hour. Okay, would you go and sweep shit for a year? So you're going to go work on an oil rig, are you going to do? If you can do the exact same thing that a man does or a woman does, then yes, you should be getting paid that same amount yeah, I also think.
Robby:Um, if you genuinely believe that, like, say, for me I'm a man, if you genuinely believe, if you're a female, that mean you can go and apply for the exact same job and let's just say it's an entry position into a firm and that I'll get paid more than you In this day and age, you trip it. I completely agree.
George:And I've employed people that are entry positions, both men and women. Yeah, pay them the same, pay them exactly the same.
Robby:It's like they're coming in for the role. It's like they're coming in for the role. You don't sit there like, oh, you're a one sec female, female. Then you click the F box Minus 20%. Let me just minus 20% off your annual salary because I can get you cheaper.
George:Jordan Peterson said this, which I found really interesting and completely true. So he goes. There are so many similarities between men and women as far as how we think how we operate, he goes. But the biggest difference between men and women as far as how we think how we operate, he goes. But the biggest difference between men and women, and he goes. The little differences make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things. But the biggest thing is men are interested in things and women are interested in people.
George:Yep, and that's why you see a lot of men go down the path of construction, of accounting, of relationships with other people, building businesses, and then why women go more towards hospitality or nursing or teaching or things that you really have to be involved with people. That's the biggest difference between men and women. And when you look at that as well, it's like well, okay, one of those pays more than the other, traditionally speaking, not saying you can't make a lot of money in the health space, in nursing, in whatever other industry, in the teaching space, whatever it is but that is the biggest fundamental difference between the two sexes. And men tend to get paid more, yes, for sweeping the roads, for building the city that you see that you walk through every single day right? And another thing I heard I can't remember where it was. It's like guys don't go to work and think, yeah, I'm going to get it over this bitch. It's like I'm sucking it to all the women and all the feminists. No, they're going there to provide for their families and a future for themselves as well. They're doing it for women, if anything. They're going there to provide for their wife, to provide for their kids or for themselves to one day have that life that they want to build or live or whatever it might be. So they're doing it for unselfish reasons. And then they get smashed from feminists and it's predominantly coming from feminists as well.
George:Yeah, it's a small group of adults and then probably make a lot of noise and say, oh, you know, women do get paid less for the same role, and then they'll give some bullshit excuse about this. Oh, look at this guy. He's a man. The top 10 CEOs of the country are all men. Okay, who cares? But you're talking about the 1% of the 1%, because 250 other thousand men that went for that position failed. But you're talking about that one guy that got all the way through. Oh, see, he at the very top of the tree, at the top of the table, makes millions of dollars, and us women don't do that. Do you know how many men tried to apply for?
Robby:that same role and didn't get it. And and here's another thing, it's competitive Absolutely, and just like because the biggest. Another argument is always well, why should we have to compete with men? And blah, blah, blah. It's like, well, I've got to compete with them too. It's not like I can sit there, I'm going to compete with them as well it's the exact same thing 100%. I think men are more competitive 100%?
George:no, not, I think so, yes, 100%.
Robby:I reckon that if I had to compete with I'm going to say this on the podcast if I had to compete with I can say this on the podcast if I had to compete, if we had 20 activities and they said you're versing a female and we're going to compete for 20, I reckon I could win 15 easy. I don't even know what they are.
George:Yeah, but you would already have it in your mind. Like that too, there'd be that level of confidence.
Robby:Whatever it is, that's cool, like she'll probably get me something. She might be a better swimmer, who knows. Or she might play chess, who knows. Activities can be anything. I'll be in less of time. Yeah, pretty confident, pretty confident, and, and that's a complete challenge for you too.
George:Oh shit, Challenge down. The challenge is down 20 random activities. Activities, that'd be a good podcast.
Robby:Yeah. Sequel podcast yeah, a good TV show. Just challenge Robbie. Man vs Women. Yeah, let me see what. Man vs Food, man vs Wild. You know what I mean. Yeah, it'd be like a sequel.
George:It'd be pretty cool. So, yeah, it's still. People are complaining that it does exist, but I think you've summarized that really well with what your initial description of it was.
Robby:You know I feel sorry for women, why I think they're getting sucked into this thing of you. Need to be independent, blah, blah, blah.
George:Oh, with that, that narrative has been sold to them 100%. Yeah, but I like, why would you not take?
Robby:the like if I blah. Oh, without a doubt. That narrative has been sold to him 100%. Yeah, like. Why would you not take the like? If I was a chick, I would 100% take the woman role. Oh, without a doubt, I think if you go and you find the right guy, your whole life can be set up and you can. All you need to do is be his lady yeah, you know what I mean. And do Be his. You know what I mean and do be his support, be his backbone.
George:yeah, you know what I mean, and that's what makes a man actually unstoppable. Yeah, and with that I've got no doubt. If you have a wife at home that's completely supporting you in every single way and I'm not even talking from a perspective of financially like that man, no matter what their role, no matter what they do, when they know they come home and they've got that piece there, they've got that happy spot there and they'll go through. So we'll literally walk through shit. They'll do anything. They know they come home and they've got that piece there, they've got that happy spot there and they'll go through. They will literally walk through shit. They'll do anything they need to do every single day. You'll get such a powerful man out of that.
Robby:But very rarely there's a, and I don't disagree with that at all. But very rarely does a woman financially support a man, and I don't think they should. That's true. Women date up.
George:Would you have an issue dating someone that worked at mcdonald's a woman, if that's what you did or a cafe? Would you see her a girl like really attractive, not really nice person? Would you have an issue with it? Yeah, yeah, ask a woman that same question yeah, but I completely agree with them yeah I think, why would you that that guy's a dud?
Robby:yeah, not, not in the sense of he's a bad person, but you should be do you know what I mean?
George:like no competition, isn't it? You want the healthiest mate. Like let's go real biological with this. Like let's go real caveman day. Yeah, it's the survival of the fittest. Are you going to go with a guy that's weak, skinny, scrawny, small, in the corner scared? Or you're going to go with that big tough guy club? Kill animals, provide for the family, eat me, Tarzan. You Jane Me. No right, Did you say eat meat. I think probably Makes sense, doesn't it?
Robby:Well, Tarzan 100% he's going to be a tough guy.
George:So, yeah, I reckon you're right, though, yeah, and I think this is another issue, not an issue actually. So it would be driven significantly by government too. Why? Because imagine now why would the government not want women to work? Why would the government not want women to work? They would encourage women to be getting into the workforce as soon as humanly possible. Why have a baby? Go back and work. What do you think?
Robby:Why Tax? Oh, like more money in the system?
George:Absolutely there is. You're talking about 50% of the population. Yeah, how did the government haven't seen? You are so anti-government. They're fucked, they're all fucked. It's like give me the reins, just give it to me for a year and I will fuck shit up, george P. No, but think about it and, like I get it from a financial case, think of the economy as a business or the country as a business.
Robby:It's not a smart move, why? Because they only get paid 80 cents on the door. That's right.
George:But no, they'd be encouraging women to get into the workforce as much as possible. Yes, you can make as much as spend. Yes, you should be getting in there ASAP. Right, let us take your kids, put them in childcare. Let someone else raise your children, put them in school, put them in aftercare programs. You go and work, you work, you work. You work Because you're getting half of the population now contributing to the economy and the growth. They're paying tax as they work. They both work. They go get a house, the mother and the husband go get a house and pay a mortgage. They have to always stay employed, the two people so for them.
George:On that perspective, I think that narrative is 100% pushed and they'll never backflip on it planet. That men will never be able to do is hold a child in their stomach and grow them and give birth right, and that's not celebrated enough. It's like, no, no, have a baby, get back to where you need to go. We'll give you 12 months off. Then get back into the workforce Like, let's go. You go, girl, you, boss bitch, let's go.
Robby:I also think it's in the like.
George:I think women are more emotional and, I think, complain a bit more, if that makes sense um, I don't know about, I don't know if I completely agree with the complaining aspect of it.
Robby:Emotional doesn't mean complaining no, no, but that's how they commute. I feel like that's how they like they'll talk to each other and like, perhaps bitching is a term based on females. Yeah, it's not a term based on mouse. They don't call it dogging. Yeah, just what I mean. It's called bitching. Yeah, because you know what I mean. That term comes from that because women do that more than men do. Do you know what I mean? It's not a maybe complaining is not the right word.
George:Yeah, I think I know what you're saying Letting their emotions say control a scenario first. No, yeah, how they, how they react to certain things or speak about things. Well, men are more logical right, and that's not even not reactions.
Robby:I'm not talking about reactions, I'm talking about, um, it is, it's complaining, dude, it's complaining, it is a women will vent as a form of communication and as a man you'll try and sit there like, well then, just fucking borrow, she does. You heard him about all that Cut her off. And then she'll be like you don't get it. Yeah, but she doesn't want. She doesn't want the problem solved.
George:Yeah, that's what I'm trying to listen to. Yeah, yeah, did that.
Robby:Could you venting? I don't know what's the correct term, but yeah, I feel like that. Where was I going with that? No idea, no idea. I feel like that plays a part as well on that side. That's why they like if men did that, yeah, okay, that's where I was going with it. Yeah, that's where I was going with it. Sorry, If men did that, we would complain about stuff too, Like oh, I can't have a baby. We're like ah, like I don't know, it's a lie, Whatever. Like move on, Do you get what?
George:I'm saying, yeah, I do, I do. Do you think that because they're in the world, say, you got women and men going for it? For a second? I think, when, potentially, a woman is seen to do things like a man, that that's how it would be interpreted as them being bitchy or them being bossy or being difficult, because they're just trying to act like the man would to get that same role.
Robby:Yeah, but see, I think that's a mistake women make. You're trying to play a man's game when you can climb a ladder in a different way. Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense? And maybe maybe it isn't. Maybe you can't get to the top as easily, but like, if that's the game, that's the game and let's, let's.
George:This is another thing. That's where I was going with the childbirth thing as well. You are. Do you think they're at a disadvantage in that regard? Because, say, you do want to have a family, okay, you get married. You're a solicitor, right? You got your law degree and you graduate at whenever they do 23, 22, whatever age it is. I don't know how long a law degree is for. I'm assuming it's four years. They get their law degree, they graduate to their early 20s, they work for six years and they go cool, I want to have a kid. They have a kid. That's a year or two off work. In that two years that they are off work, those same people that they started their journey with, which was a male, was working two extra years ahead of them. You understand.
George:Say, a guy and a girl started at the same firm. They graduated uni together, they started, they get to 30, the man is still at the same firm as the girl. She has a kid, goes off for two years. He continues his career. His career path is going to go further than hers will. Then, when she comes back and rejoins, he's got two years on. Yeah, that's right. Or maybe three, yeah, but that's what I mean. And then that's where, potentially, this conversation comes in. Oh well, there's a gender pay gap. I graduated the same. That is a part of it. Yeah, but that can happen. So what? Yeah, exactly right, but then she'll get paid less. Because he's more advanced, he gets the opportunities and, yes, that, to a degree, is a disadvantage to you as a woman to do that. However as a woman, to do that.
Robby:However, why do you want to do that? Do what as a woman? So why you are born with a different gender. Yeah, I'm not saying you shouldn't have to, but like okay, cool, you want to do that big boss, ceo thing, compete with everyone. Don't have a kid. Yeah, you're not forced to have a kid. Yeah, correct, correct, it's your choices. Everything in life is your choice.
George:Everything, yes, See. I also think that you were talking about being nurturing and doing that as well. I think it's a huge disadvantage to you. If you want to be a mother, I think you should go all out and do it. Some people I get it they can't afford not to have two people working in a relationship. But if you can afford, if your husband makes enough money that you can stay at home and raise your children, and the most powerful thing you can do, the most powerful thing you can do here's my argument with that yeah From the to the men listening, yeah, yeah.
Robby:If you can't do that, why not Like?
George:money's a game. Yeah, what do you need to do to get that? To get to that?
Robby:money is again what do you need to be doing to make that much money? Yeah, what's the like? How, okay, cool, what am I doing wrong? Or what do I need to be doing? Or how am I going to go from? Because if life came to it, you'd end up earning that much. But because there's a separate way out, like a path of least resistance, do you like to say, yeah, they end up taking that, but it's like it's. You need to upskill, simple as that. Dude, you need to upskill, you need to work it out. Work more hours, do more, be like whatever it is, yeah, work it out. Find a way if that's what you want. If you don't, I think women should do something oh, without a doubt, yeah, without a doubt.
George:I think I don't think they should just sit. It'll get to a point. It'll get to a point where you don't like when your kids are old enough.
Robby:It's a connection with the world.
George:Yeah, yeah, your kids will be old enough and you can't, and I understand it. I can appreciate that too, because you can lose your purpose a little bit. Oh, what am I doing with my life? There's only so much coffee and catch-ups and dog walks I can go for, and it's definitely important to have something to motivate you outside of raising children. Yeah, but I think in the early years, up to the age of 10, if you can be a stay-at-home mom during those years, it makes such a big difference in the child's development.
George:It's not funny, because it's not the grandmother or the grandfather looking after the kids, it's not the childcare. So you're working to pay childcare. It's not the childcare raising your kid, it's not the schools raising your kid, it's not the schools raising your kid. You're the one that's the primary influence in that child's life the way they think, the way they behave, the way they act. You get that opportunity to do so, yet the narrative is like no, no, no, no, get back to work as fast as possible. That's what's pushed. We're not celebrating women the way we should be, we're forcing them, or it's like you said the other day about. I can't even remember what we were talking about. It was along the lines of the narrative that was pushed in the schools or whatever it was, and that's what the people would become kids, because that's what they're saying hey, it's okay to do this, it's okay to do this, it's okay to do this. Oh yeah, when I was talking about the LGBT.
Robby:Oh yeah, that's right. That's right From 1% to 20% on.
George:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George:That's right, but it's the same thing with this gender pay gap dispute is they're getting that narrative pushed on them. It's like no, no, get back to work, get back to work. And now a lot of these people are getting back to work. The women are getting back to work. They're going. Hang on, joe's getting paid more than me and we graduated the same year. You've been off for two years having kids, and now you're coming in and Joe's worked every Sunday for the last six months and that's why he's getting promoted. See, that's that's.
Robby:I don't think. I think women are playing the wrong game. With what? With like, why are you trying to compete with Joe, who can work Sundays? Yeah, who can't have kids, if you want to?
George:if that's the game you want to play, that's fine play, I think. I mean, I think that's sad too, I reckon when couples decide not to have kids, I don't know, I think that's something they'll learn. They'll live to regret. Yeah, I know some, I know. So, look, I don't know how you feel about it. Would you do you want kids one day? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think when I met someone no, I did not, I met him. You know him. Actually, I won't say who it is, but they were Stop the name, okay.
Robby:It's Peter and Anthea. It's not them. Yeah, I see it. I don't even know who they are.
George:They said yeah, no, we've decided never to have kids. And these are young couple okay, Early 30s, like wow. Okay. Early 30s, like wow, okay. Do you really think in the years to come, with all the business yeah, you know. Do you really think in the years to come, when the business is making a killing and everything's happening and and so on and so forth, you're going to sit back when you're eating, like jesus, we didn't have any kids. When you're sitting in a room with no one yeah, I get that. You won't. I got man, you'd have to be a hard ass not to have that regret?
Robby:Yeah, none, as an older person. There is a big study that around women, because the whole feminist movement it's been going for a while. Yeah, people were sucked in in the 90s and stuff. Yeah, and there's a big thing around the women who were sucked in in the 90s who are now in their 60s. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Yes, I've seen, yeah, yeah, and how much they regret not having children or devoting their whole life to work, or how lonely they are.
George:Yeah, they go on the man. Why the man's not the enemy, the man's trying to provide for his family, for his future. As you said, you're competing against the wrong thing. Yeah, it shouldn't be about that. By all means, go in there, do your thing, do whatever you want to do, whatever makes you happy. Like no judgment. If there's some woman CEO out there of a top 500 company like, go for it, man, good on you, good on you, I've got no issues. No judgment. Like, do you? But you know there's consequences with everything, good and bad. There's consequences with everything.
George:Okay, and you might dedicate your life to that profession. But then, like what do your kids turn out to be like when they grow up? Do they have that disconnect? Right, and this is something I love that Patrick Bet-David does, seeing as we mentioned him earlier. He's like I want to make so much. He goes. My goal was to make so much fucking money that I always want my kids around me. He goes. I love my kids. I would have 50 kids if I could. I love them. They are my world, they are everything to me. One day they're going to grow up. They're going to grow up and they're going to have partners, and I never wanted it to be a conversation as to where we have Christmas every year.
George:It was always at my house. And you know why? It's because I have the biggest home, the $20 million home in Beverly Hills. Why it's because I have the biggest home, the $20 million home in Beverly Hills, and I fly out all of my in-laws every year. Yes, everyone stays at his, they all stay. Have you seen his house? Yeah, I've seen, not in great detail, but yeah, there's a whole YouTube. Yeah, is there? Yeah, go check it out, watch his house. So it's like I'm going to fly the in-laws in every one of them. Right, the four pairs? They're all staying here. They all get their own room, they all get their own wing. They stay with us for three weeks, all expenses paid, everything, because my kids are going to stay with me always, and their grandkids, there's never a question. It goes on. We have 50 grandkids in here and everyone's going to be here because of me.
George:Now, if you don't have that loving connection with your kid because you're climbing the corporate ladder, where do you think they're going to be at 20? We're at 18. They hit 18. They hit the age. They're going to be like mom, dad, fuck off, I don't know. I'm going to move to America, I'm going to move into state. I want nothing to do with you guys. I'll see you on the weekend. I'll see you on the holidays. I mean, maybe it's a European background in myself that we've got really strong family ties. Some people don't give a shit, but it's lonely up the top too.
Robby:It can be lonely up the top if that's the path that you choose, if that's how you choose to walk that path. So we're just saying stay home, cook plane. It's funny. No, you're right, I agree with you I do. I think um, do you employ women? Me, yeah, but again, make sure my employees are 50, 50, 50. Last one was a guy, next one will be a girl that's the other thing.
George:Okay, so we're talking about equality in the workplace? Yeah, okay, and this shits me too, because it's like, well, I need to employ 50% women, 50% male. That is a mistake. 100%, that is a huge mistake, and I see big corporate companies or big people, people trying to push it you should employ 50% women and 50% men. That is a huge, huge mistake and I will never, ever Huge mistake and I will never, ever do that.
Robby:Would you drop your kids off? Let's just say you took your kids to a drive-by. Would you drop them off to a male child care? Yes, yeah, me either. Weird, I don't even have kids and I get upset.
George:But this comes down to what I said before. Like men are more interested in things, women are more interested in people. Yeah, they are nurturing. Yes, you would expect the childcare place to be full of women carers, absolutely, and I'd expect the man to be there, to be hanging a door and doing the maintenance on the building. You know what I mean. You're so sexist, so sexist. But see what I'm saying. That's what I would expect walking in there and you wouldn't think twice about it. Now let's go back to because I'm in construction and you've got male bricklayers. You've got bricklayers, okay, bricklayers are a good one. Yeah, 90% of them are men, okay.
Robby:One in 10 are women.
George:No, it's probably 95% are men yeah. Look whatever, 99% are men yeah.
George:A large pool A large percentage. Now what if you had a bricklaying company and you were the owner and they said right, you need an hour to employ 50% women, 50% men. A the pool for you to employ women is very small, very small. B of the women that are there, you're probably going to have men that would do it better than that. Why? Why? Because it's such a labor intensive job and it's a lot of hard work. Men are, by default, stronger, can lay more bricks, probably quicker. I'm not saying that women can't. I'm not saying that they can't be just as good. But if you're saying we have to employ 50-50. You shouldn't be saying that.
Robby:Dude, they can't.
George:It's physically impossible.
Robby:Yes, is there going to be one, but the exception is they make the rule.
George:Yeah, correct, correct, absolutely, absolutely. But let's just say this was forced upon you, regardless of you being a bricklayer any company that we're going to employ 50 women, and we're proud of that 50% women, 50% men, and we're proud of that Well, you've just reduced the quality of your workforce because, as I said, things and people. Now let's use engineering, for example. Okay, an actual engineer that designs buildings. Most of those people are men. Now you're going to have 100,000 male engineers to pick and 10,000 women engineers to pick.
Robby:Even with us?
George:Yeah, whatever it is, whatever that number is. So you're telling me that it's not that you have to now pick half of those women to fill your workforce when you have a greater pool here, statistically speaking the 100,000, say you have to employ 10 people out of these 100,000, 110,000 people, 10,000 are women, 100,000 are men, and you have to employ 10 of them. Statistically speaking, you're going to pick all men, because the top candidates out of that 110,000 people pool, they're all probably going to be men, because that's the vast majority of people who have completed that engineering or are qualified in engineering. Yeah, or you might get one over here, yeah cool, absolutely.
Robby:Also, to touch on your point, you could even add, let's say, that they had the exact same skill level, like there was this many good, this many percentage were in the top. Do you know what I mean? I'd say they were equally skilled. Yeah, so the middle tier for both, like the average, was the same same skill level. But because you were looking for quantity, your quality actually drops because now you have to pick 50 from a smaller pool. Yeah, do you know what I mean? So if you're hiring 5 000, you actually got to go to a lower quality in the smaller pool to be able to fill that about. Because some movement? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But that's the world we live in, man, it's propaganda, isn't it? Yeah, I think so.
George:I don't want people to be listening to this and going oh, you guys are just chauvinistic pigs. You're just saying women can't. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying Robbie is 100% saying that, hand on heart, he's going to put it in writing and you'll get the memo tonight and I'll tat it up. We'll send it out in the email.
Robby:No, no, we're not. You're right. We're not saying that. It's not about being.
George:It's a good thing Doing great. We're simply talking about the vast majority.
Robby:Does that? Here's a good question. Does that impress you as a man? Does that impress you? Do you sit there like, wow and you're a woman? Woman, hey, and kids, yeah.
George:And a woman, that's what.
Robby:That impresses you? Does it impress you? It doesn't impress me at all. I don't care when I say it doesn't impress me. It impresses me the same way a man impresses me. That's what I was about to say. It doesn't impress me in the sense that I don't look at her and think, wow, A woman did that.
George:Wow, I don't get that. It's the same way someone's killed it like a guy killed it or a girl killed it. That's awesome.
Robby:Yeah, that's awesome I'd say from both of them, but not in a perspective that, oh, look at this, this woman had done this or not, but that's looking at it, you're that's.
George:That's a good thing from what you're saying.
Robby:Yeah, I know right, I was like I wasn't cheating on anyone. Yeah, yeah, um, not in a. I also don't like it's. It doesn't make a woman any more attractive for you.
George:For me personally, I don't sit there like was that because you see that as a masculine?
Robby:thing To have that great level of success in business or whatever. I think most women who tend to have a great level of success in business tend to be masculine. Do you know what I mean? What, if not all?
George:Most. Yeah, does it matter? On the type of business, what if they're floral business?
Robby:Yeah, but she's probably like how the fuck I get to found out. Do you know what I mean? So, masculine doesn't mean you don't like makeup. Yeah, masculine is a scenario. Characteristic traits yeah, that's what it is. It's the way they operate in, the way they think and etc. Um, you know their level of competitiveness? Uh, and yeah, I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't. I don't dislike it, like, I don't see it, and be like, yeah, yeah, but I don't, it doesn't make. I would prefer a feminine woman every day of the week. Yeah, absolutely, every day of the week, absolutely. You know what I mean. It doesn't make a difference to me with what their gender is based on. They're cheap, yeah, and that's how it should it doesn't make a difference to me with what their gender is based on.
Robby:Yeah, and that's how it should be. Yeah, no issues with that. Yeah, it's not more impressive because you're a woman. It's the same thing. That's how I feel.
George:Who are we to judge Robbie? Robbie, yes, interesting, so it doesn't exist. Done Dusted, put it to bed. No more articles, don't want to hear about it ever again. I think the world is slowly so. What's the opposite of feminism?
Robby:What's the word Misogynist? Oh, is it? No, I don't know. So what's a?
George:group of men saying we're men-doms, meninism, masculinity, or is it toxic masculinity? Is that probably the opposite of feminism?
Robby:I don't know, I don't know, men don't seem to think that way. That's what I mean. Yeah, not just that, because we also like, if a guy comes in and he's like making all these complaints, every other guy there will be like dude, shut the fuck up. Dude, like seriously, like yeah, cool, bro, you've entered, but like enough, whereas I feel like women don't do that. So it's more happens, more in in, you know, women dominated spaces, that makes sense. Women-dominated spaces, if that makes sense.
George:Yeah.
Robby:I think why are you laughing? I'm excited for what you're about to say. Oh, now you've hyped it up, it might not be that good anymore.
George:Okay, I think together, a man and a woman, like I said, in a partnership. So husband, wife, whatever it is. That's where the true power is, though. Oh I 100% agree with you. It's not me versus you, it's not us versus them, it's me and you. And if you can nail that aspect of the relationship right, all this other feminine bullshit messages and other agendas just wash away. You know what I hate, you know what Letally. Wash away. You know what.
Robby:I hate. You know what? Letally, wash away what feminist message. You know what? Hold on, just for clarity as well, have you ever looked up what feminist means? Never Good Feminist based on the Are you asking me? No, based on the dictionary definition, I'm a feminist. Why? Because it means that women should be treated equally. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, but the problem is, when we define feminists, we're talking about the extremity. Yeah, correct, you know what I mean? Yeah, because the term is not bad, but it's been tainted. It's been tainted do you know what I mean?
George:Because of a small group of people that have voiced their opinions in a Without a doubt. And imagine you walked into a room and said, hey, I'm a feminist. They'd look at you weird, like you now saying it oh, you're a feminist, no, no, it just means that women are treated equal to men in that regard. Yeah, basically, equal opportunities, that's all. Yeah, which is fine, and I totally agree with that. I'm just saying that, and Trump was big on this. I think someone asked him that ages ago during a press conference. I think I actually sent it to you, and she's like some lady stands up. Will women get paid this? Yeah, yeah, and he goes if they perform the same task.
Robby:Yes, yes, if they perform. Yes, absolutely, and the same task at the same level, and that's rightly so. Yeah, I was going somewhere with that feminist comment. I can't remember what it was now.
George:I spoke about how, together, men and women are powerful, and then that's when you said your comments. So that's what I do believe, because if together and I had this conversation today, actually I was speaking to a mentee of mine, we were having a good chat and he goes. The other day I drove in at home. He goes. I pulled up into the driveway and it was 5.45 PM and I got a phone call from my bookkeeper or no, from a client. He goes. We're owed a million dollars. Right, a million bucks was supposed to hit the account. He goes. I didn't have money for payroll. A million bucks was supposed to be paid. He calls me up. He goes sorry, you're not getting it till next week.
George:This is a Thursday night, whatever it is. He's like fuck, this guy's got decent organization construction company and he comes in and he goes. I walked in and he goes. He was just off on edge. He was pissed off, he was frustrated, he was stressed, he was annoyed, he was under a ton of pressure. Everyone's chasing him for money, everyone's looking to him for leadership, for all this sort of stuff and he was just in a bad space like mentally Walked in the home. He's got kids. The wife know it was, it was something small in passing, and he goes, he goes. My wife said something and he goes. It was storming to take up stuff, all right, but it just like he exploded and he goes.
George:He lost it as far as uh, they got into a massive argument following that because, oh, why the fuck? You've done this and this and this and this. And I said, look, that's I understand the pressure that you under and what you've got, what you're going through and why you're going through it and all that sort of stuff. I said, but you really need to have that conversation with your partner and go look, this is where I'm at in business at the moment. This is where we're at. Okay, mortgage has doubled because he's gone from a fixed rate to a variable rate. He goes, I'm literally paying double the amount and he's got a nice home in a nice suburb and it's a significant jump up from what he's paying. And I go, I get that you're stressed and you've got all that pressure. She doesn't know that. Okay, and this is where the two parties weren't playing as a team.
George:It was that lack of communication. I said you're going on, we're going on holiday somewhere. I said, good, I go when you're in the car and you're driving into your location, have the chat with her. They look sorry, I blew up yesterday, I shouldn't have done that, so on and so forth. This is where I'm at in my life, but if she knew that about him, she would then be able to be that support for him and that peace for him when he got home and when he did that. And then do you know how much easier it will be for him to go out and take the punches at work Significantly easier, and he'd get that million bucks in. He'd go get the other million dollars in. And this is what I'm saying. Too many people are thinking of it as us versus, or me versus you, us versus them. But if together, a man and a woman will be completely unstoppable if you support each other in the right way.
Robby:Yeah, I agree, 100% agree with that.
George:You were going to say something, because I saw the light come on before I spoke.
Robby:No, no, I was thinking about that feminist comment and I remembered what I was going to say. It was about the whole that comment I made about the fact that I'm not impressed by masculine Like it could be just me. Yeah, I'll tell you if it is. Yeah, but you know what the response is With what? To that comment, like in the sense of I don't find that attractive. Yeah, yeah, it's because you're insecure To you. Yeah, always, everyone, anyone that ever says it, and it's just like I don't understand that. It's because they think you're scared of them. They're like, you're worried, you can't beat me, I told you. I beat you. I told you this challenge is 15 out of 20 games. You pick the games Mario Kart, it'll be you. Mario Kart On Nintendo 64. Yeah, and I think that's a narrative that's pushed. That's just not true as well.
George:Yeah, I mean yeah, exactly, just because you want something a certain way, doesn't make you insecure of that, or like something in a certain way.
Robby:Yeah Because you're not threatened by that. You're not threatened by it. If a man does that, what? Okay, here's a good question. Would it bother you if?
George:your missus made more money than you. Good question, I think so it would. I don't think I could be a stay-at-home dad. I think so it would. I don't think I could be a stay-at-home dad. No, no, okay, as in, we're both working and she's making it like she's scratching it. All right, let me give you. I look at it like this no, actually I don't think it would Like say my wife had an online store and was making fucking a million bucks a month, yeah, and you were like you were still doing.
Robby:Well, I'm still doing here what I'm doing.
George:I think that's fine. She's just, she's got something that's taken off. I'm fulfilled doing my thing? Yeah, absolutely, but this is where it comes down to the partnership between the man and the woman. Right, if anything, I would go. You know what? This here, what I'm doing for my time and value isn't worth it, because we're making huge margins here.
Robby:I I would then go cool, let me step into your business, yeah, and we do it together and should I call? You can do the invoicing, you're the PA, you're the bookkeeper. No, no, but like. So that's why I agree with you there, because even if let's just say, take the thing of moving into a business out, like if you were doing, let's say, you were making a million bucks a year, just to keep it simple, context with the name of the show or if you're making a million bucks a year and you and your family have a lifestyle where you live on half a million a year, so you've clearly got your family covered. And then your wife goes on this business thing or whatever it is, or has an online store, whatever it is, and becomes this huge phenomenon and she starts making 10 million.
Robby:No man is ever going to be bothered by that. Because I think, deep down, as a man, your thing is I need to know that if everything turns to shit, I can keep the ship afloat. That's the biggest, your biggest fear as a man. You need to make sure that we can keep everything we have. I can keep the, you know. I mean the family stays fed, everyone's looked after, not a holy shit, this is all dependent on her and I make 60k a year. And if everything goes downhill, that's when I think it would bother me, because then it's like I'm not doing enough, like if she went downhill here I can't rescue, like I can't save the day, and I think that would bother me. Yeah, that make sense. Absolutely it does, without a doubt, because then it's like fuck, like if this all goes downhill, I can't even. What are we going to do? Do some overtime, make an extra 5K a year?
George:But do you think, though, that some people are limited by their position and their training and their education, their mindset with that too? Because there'd be guys out there. I've got no doubt, no doubt whatsoever, that if their missus were making $10 million a year, they'd be like oh, that'd be the best, I'd stay at home. I, that'd be the best, I'd stay at home, I'd play Playstation all day, yeah, but she'd end up leaving him.
Robby:Sorry, she'd end up leaving him. Yeah good, yeah good, but she'd not. I reckon she'd be good. Yeah, potentially, but she'd end up sitting there like, nah, this is sick but then there's that other thing who I don't know.
George:That's a really interesting. Yeah. There's someone else that says like so that caliber of woman there goes out I think it's on Fresh and what's that thing? Fresh and Fit or something. Those two guys Fresh and Fit, yeah, yeah, so they'll go in there and they'll argue that that type of woman that's gone out there and made an empire kills it is looking for a higher caliber man. Okay.
Robby:I somewhat agree with that. Yeah, so she'll be looking for someone. She I'm not agreeing with that. Yeah, so she'll be looking for someone.
George:She wants a woman, I make 10 mil, I want someone who makes 100 mil. Dude Like okay, that's what I'm saying.
Robby:They date up. Yeah, as a man, as a man, you can be crushing it. Your date ticket makes 100 mil. Yeah, you can be crushing it. That's what I said before.
George:Yeah, women will say stuff like well, you're talking about that next level, the guy that's making a hundred million, 200 million, 500 million, a billion a year, is he going to necessarily be going for that woman that's making 10? You're coming back to your comment about the feminine woman because, okay, someone that's obviously has that level of success, that's doing really well, that's crushing it, that's hard-nosed, that knows how to make money and knows what she's talking about, that type of man isn't looking for that type of woman. He wants a person that's going to stay at home, look after the kids, be his support network, because he wants to come home, not talk business he wants to talk about did you win in tennis today?
George:Yeah, you know what I mean?
Robby:Yeah, it's like how was coffee with the girls? Just so, I remember we had this video I watched where the girl's like I want a man who I can keep accountable and blah, blah, blah. And it's like no man wants that. No man wants to come home and get told by his missus. I could be wrong, but most men, I'd say, wouldn't Want to come home and get told by their missus. You haven't done this.
George:You.
Robby:Yeah, just sounds like you're coming home to.
George:Yeah, you don't want to come home to more battles, that's all it comes down to. You just don't want to come home to more battles. You want to come home to peace. You want to come home to support. That's what it comes down to. You want to come home and see your kids and play with the kids. It's your place of solace and peace. That's your happy place. You take the battles during the day. You do everything you got to do during the day. You know I sometimes I complain about you know, ah, so busy at work. It's just I'll tell my wife say look, I'm just going to vent. I need someone to vent to for 30 seconds. All right, just listen to me. Shut the fuck up.
Robby:Yeah, I want to say, and she doesn't give me support. Sometimes she'll say, oh yeah, do this or speak to this person, just chill out.
George:She doesn't give you support, she doesn't give you advice. Yeah, correct, sorry, that's what I meant Advice, yeah, so you know, the other day I had an employee quit and I told her I said, oh, this person quit. She's like who. I was like, I didn't even know you employed someone like that. I said, yeah, they quit today. Okay, cool, but again, that's the support, it's not the advice that I go to. Just having someone to talk to sometimes is nice as well.
Robby:Yeah, it's a rabbit hole. That whole concept isn't it?
George:Look, I think it's blown out of proportion, way out of proportion. Do you know what I mean? No, no, it's a resurrection. Yeah, it's a storm of a teacup. I don't think it's as big, in the grand scheme of things. I don't think it's as big an issue as people make it out to be.
Robby:I also think it's people are waking up to it.
George:Yeah, now, yeah, they're going. No, no like, why would we buy?
Robby:into this bullshit. I've seen videos of women saying which women started arguing to want to work, like yeah, I've seen that too. Yeah, and it's like pretty funny, that makes sense. She's like why are we fighting to go to work? Yeah, like this makes no sense, it's nothing it's so funny.
George:It's like, oh, what is this? I'll happily say I work an 80 hour week for a legal firm. Like why, why, why, why?
Robby:why I get it. If you're, because some women would be masculine naturally, sure, whatever biologically, I don't know how it works, but if they're biologically masculine, I get that they would want that. Like I wouldn't want to stay home Yourself, as a man, I'm hanging out. Yeah, like, even if money was set, I wouldn't want to stay home. Do you ever have days where you just want to, though? Want to stay home? Yeah, as in for a week.
George:I don't know. Just close the curtains, get a packet, get a box of like twisties. I have that. I just go sit there in your cups and just play PlayStation.
Robby:I have had days where, like, it'll be like 2 pm and I'll be like Checking out. I'm just not. I'm here physically, I'm not here at all and I'll take off now. I don't waste that time. That's good. I'm like cool, let me just call it a day. Come back in tomorrow and smash it, and every time I've done it honestly, the the next day you're so refreshed because you're either lacking sleep or you had something going on, or whatever it is. As long as you're doing it every second day, yeah, that's right, yeah I think right, yes, I'm looking at it from the perspective of like.
George:Now I'm at the point where I've got so much work on that, I've got to pump it out even now, taking the time out of this podcast. I could have very easily called you up today and said hey, we, we've got to reschedule. I would have been upset at myself. But it's at that point where I'm like no, I've got to do it, I just got to find the time and I will get it done. Yeah, I'll get it done. I'm going to work hard. I know it's for the next month or so that I'm going to work like an animal, but after that, cool, have some time, reward myself, but then go again when I get back, because I know that I see the end goal and it may be even a couple of years away, this end goal too, but I see it. It's like every month, cool, tick it off. Another month, another good month, another good month. Guys, we are a quarter of the way through First quarter. No, it's first quarter now. Three months, no, no, but by the time this airs oh, correct, when this is airing we're a quarter of the way through the year. What have you done? Yeah, we keep talking about playing so small and we've spoken earlier episodes about setting your goals at the start of the year and doing some sick shit. What have you done in the first quarter of this year? The first quarter is down, done, dusted. What are you doing? How has your first quarter been? Yeah, I'm really happy with it, actually Really happy. I've done some sick shit. Yeah, we've done heaps of events, more than I thought we would. Another event coming up in a couple of weeks. We've planned a holiday going next month. Literally in a month's time I'll be probably by the time this airs, I'll be in Vegas. So that's going to be cool and got some projects that are starting projects coming out of the ground. I've had a good start to the year, but I pre-framed it from last. We had planned all our events in advance. We'd planned all these things in advance that we're going. This is going to be a sick year, massive, even the things that we're talking about with other business ventures we're doing.
George:Today I looked at the bank account. We went to the bank, me and you. I looked at the bank account and the banker goes. He goes oh, is this your account? No, that's got double the amount of money it had in their lifetime. I was looking at you You're fucking, you're working, huh, shit's happening, man, shit's happening, working, shit's happening, man, shit's happening, work and. And the account. Literally I hadn't opened the account and checked it and there was double the amount of money, making magic, making shit happen. We got some sick, sick shit planned, guys. I don't think you understand. Like we're talking now and you're like, oh yeah, you're just talking up. You don't understand what's about to happen. You give us six months to a year. I know exactly, you know exactly where I'm going with this and what I'm going to do. It's going to happen and you're going to be like how the fuck did they do that? Yeah, how the fuck did they? Those two blokes from Melbourne, right, that's going to happen.
Robby:That exactly, I know exactly. I know who you think.
George:What you think. 27? 25. 25, you reckon. I'll tell you that. All right, Robbie's going to tell you that in a second I'm going to say refer back to episode 25, when we spoke about the gender pay gap and how it doesn't exist. What episode is this? Yeah, this one that you're listening to right now. This is episode 25.
George:25. I, 25. 25. I'm going to say the first quarter of our, of a hundred percent of our podcast. Go refer back to that episode to get to the end of the episode and you're going to hear about me talking about something sick and we're going to announce it on this podcast too. I know exactly what it is. It's so cool. It's so cool and you know what it comes within the realms. Without giving anything away, I'm going to be so.
Robby:We haven't spoken, we've spoken about it briefly.
George:We've spoken about it more In this transaction just now Than what we have in person, but I know exactly.
Robby:What you're talking about.
George:We're going to announce it On this podcast. We're going to happen. You have an opportunity to be a part of it and it's going to be sick and you're going to go. How did they pull it off? How did they do that? That's what you're going to do and we're going to say this happened as a consequence of us deciding to make it happen 100%. Okay, we committed to making it happen. We didn't play small because people would think what we're going to do is like man, not making it happen. We didn't play small because people would think what we're going to do is like man, not possible. You can't do that. You can't do it. They're lucky. Yeah, they must know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone. There's no way you could have possibly done it. Isn't that sick? Yeah.
Robby:How did they do that? How did they do it? How the fuck did they do that?
George:It's like, yeah, and you go. Oh, these, these guys are just next level. Yeah, we are, we are, we are, but you don't see the fucking time that we've taken off out of our business now to do this podcast. Yeah, and how much like this is this is really. That's, it's not stressful, what's the word? Yeah, it's stretching me being here right now filming this talk in these words and so many of you are doing shit in your own day-to-day business.
George:And I spoke to again two people that were looking to join my program today and he was like George, he goes. I'm working seven days a week. I'm up at 4 am. He goes. I get to work at 6. I don't leave till 7, 7.30. You're on a two-hour fucking drive to work. No, I don't know, maybe meditating, going to the gym, I don't know. He's not eating food, whatever. I know what he's doing. Maybe it is a two-hour drive. Who knows? He goes.
George:I'm working seven days a week in his construction business and two of them, two business partners. He goes. We're doing everything. He goes. You're telling us you can help us with all these systems, with is, and he goes, and unless you're willing to change that one simple problem, I can't help you, can't help you. He goes what is it? I go. You need to employ people. You're doing everything yourself. Everything he's doing site management, office admin, ordering materials, picking up materials.
George:He's busy. He's not productive. Well, they're busy, not productive. You can't implement systems because you have no time to do it. You need to employ people, teach them how to do it and then get them to do it. Too many people listening to this right now as well. You're so focused on being busy that it's holding you back. You're thinking I have to do everything myself. I can't employ someone. I can't bring someone else to help me. I can't do this because it's going to grow my business. No, you don't think that. You're thinking everything's too small. This here right now, us doing this podcast, creating this content for you guys to help you it doesn't help us. I can have a conversation with him at lunch if I want to do this.
Robby:We caught up. We now hold our conversations. We're like I want to talk to you, but I don't want to talk to you until we get on the podcast. That's so true. You actually just said that to your lunch. I'm like I got some lunch today. I'm going to wait until we get on the pod because I don't want to drop it. Was that the Patrick Big Dave? Yeah.
George:So sweet, so sweet. I was hanging for it. How good I know it would have been the best conversation, best conversation at lunch. I'm so pumped, you at all? Yeah, are you all pumped? I was so pumped. Anyway, my point I'm getting to guys is you want something different to happen in your life. You have to be willing to do something different. If you keep going through doing all the same fucking shit, the same result is going to happen every single time. What got you here won't get you there. Yeah, a little bit sideways from our conversation, I can motivate it. So motivated, so pumped, so pumped. Well, I think that's a great topic for today. Let us know your thoughts. Do you think we're talking shit? Do you think we're misogynistic, we're sexist, we think less of women? Do you think I'm going to finish this podcast and go out and hire an army full of women because I pay them 20% less? Is that what you think?
Robby:Please let me know you can get away with it. Do what, for sure someone's tried. It Tried which To pay a woman less?
George:Sure, I'm sure I think that person that would pay the woman less would also pay the man less too. Just a tight ass, yeah. A big tight ass, no, if you want. Okay, let's talk about that a little bit before we end the day. A bad employee will cost you money. A good employee will cost you nothing. A great employee will make you three to five times their wage.
George:So don't you think it's worth paying someone above award rate, above market rate, if they're an exceptional employee to your business Every single time? If you pay someone more than what their going rate is, but they're exceptional, they will fucking make so much money for your business. It's not funny. Provided that the opportunities are there, that it's the right culture, environment, everything. That's what I was going to say. You have to have that built into the business in the first place, because that type of person won't settle for a mediocre company. They're going to want to go somewhere where they're movers and shakers, they're achieving goals, they're driven by their ambitions and they're getting results and getting remunerated for it too. But if you can find that person and pay them more, man, you'll get retained staff for a long time and they will make you a shitload of money, yet people are there going. How do I get this role fulfilled for the lowest amount possible?
Robby:That is the wrong mindset, right? We're thinking about how much is this going to cost me instead of how much can this make me Now, don't get me wrong.
George:I'm happy to pay someone a starting wage. I need to see you can put the runs on the board without a doubt, especially for juniors. If you're a grad, I know where you're at. If you're coming into my business as a graduate, I know exactly where you're at. You could be as good as you think you are, you're not. If you've got no experience in the business, in the industry, I know where you're at. So, yeah, I'm happy to go. Cool, you're an entry-level person. I'm going to teach you a lot, going to invest time in you. We're going to train you. You're worth this much. Now, if they had two, three years at a company that I know of or know how they operate, and say cool, you're worth this much. So I'm happy to have that. And then and then give them that incentive to go cool. If, in the next six months, I see you achieve this, this, this and this, you're going to be up here, man or woman and a woman. I discriminate. Man or woman, man or woman, I discriminate.
Robby:I don't know anyone that would. Anyone that would sit there like a high ratios chick, like, do you know anyone that would sit there for a bit? Unless you like? Unless it was like a like, if you were gonna hire a brickie, you might be hesitant, but like I would, I don't know. But I'm just being honest. Just like I would be hesitant to give my child to a guy, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not about favoritism. It's not about I like this gender over that. It's about I think you can do this better.
George:Yeah, for biological reasons would it deter you and I reckon this would happen for sure would it deter you, and I reckon this would happen for sure would it deter you if you had a. Okay, I'm going to paint a picture for you. Okay, a woman has just gotten married. She's late 20s and she's just been married for a year. You, to a certain degree, know that this woman is going to fall pregnant in the next couple of years and you're preempting going shit. She's going to be on maternity leave. I have to leave the position open for 12 months. Yeah, after I might have to pay her during that time. Would that deter you from hiring them then?
Robby:I don't know if it would deter me from hiring them, but it would be influenced, yeah, influencing on it. I think 100%. If you knew. This is the exact same thing. Who cares what they're going? They're going missing for a year. Think about this logically they're going missing for a year. Who cares why? If you knew you were going to hire me and it was me and another guy and then but you knew that I've already booked a 12 month trip next year to go to Europe, are you going to is that not going to influence your decision? Fuck, no, if it is, this is the exact same thing. Who cares what they're going for?
George:oh, but it's not so then is there a gender issue there? Then what Is there? Opportunity being missed because they're a woman.
Robby:In the workplace. Yeah, yeah, potentially, yeah, but it is what it is. That's right. You don't you want to compete in that space? Don't have a kid. You don't want to compete in that space? Go have a kid and live your life how you were meant to. Yeah, tell me, go be a woman. There's nothing wrong with it nothing wrong with that dude yeah, no, guys, it's there. Wow, she's a woman. No, no, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's. Yeah, I think it's brainwash. Yeah, oh, that's not fair.
George:Yeah, why yeah, well, it's not well, I want to have kids. That's not fair, as in me.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to carry the kid, I want to carry the kid, I want to carry the kid myself. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I fair, I can't, yeah, I don't, I don't care. Just to clear that up Before someone captures that 10 second thing and it goes viral. We haven't done that yet.
George:What? I wonder if someone will capture the start of this podcast, where I said I'm really busy, probably gonna do it if you make that, post them for a random account. Make that the intro of this episode. Nah, come on, imagine that. Imagine you go, joe, I'm here. Robbie man, I am so busy I'm going to employ at least three women so I can play them. 20 below market rate, just go. That's the intro to the big. It'll go viral current affair straight up patina, make that the intro.
Robby:That's it. She will do it. She watches the whole podcast and she probably gets paid 20% less for doing so.
George:She does.
Robby:But yeah, oh goodness, by the way, I love your work and thank you so much by the way, yeah, it's a very walk on eggs, eggshells kind of this shouldn't be, though shouldn't be, and this is the thing.
George:We can have it here now. Do you reckon how interesting would it be if we actually had another woman that strongly believed that there was no?
Robby:no, we got yeah, but then well you would seriously send us the thing. Click on the link. There'll be a link below. Click it, the guest one. Send us a link, send us a request. We'll get you on and we'll have a conversation.
George:Yeah and imagine if you were in a group like that. You know, I've been kicked under the table by my missus a couple of times, not over this topic, but just something else. You know, and I'll say my point of view because there's other people in the room that are going to get their back up. Don't give a fuck, all right, you don't like it? Like, leave the room. I don't care, I'm not here to be your best friend. I'm just telling you honestly how I think and what I believe and what I see logically happening in the world. And that's where I'm at.
Robby:I think there is people that would yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, rattle Everything, everything With everything we discussed. Oh, everything, anything. Yeah, back to the other episodes. You think this is bad you should talk about. Um, people choose what they get upset about. Yeah, if something bothers you, don't ask why they said it.
George:Ask why it bothers you, yeah and on that bombshell, uh, what a great episode. Thank you very much for joining us. We're happy to have you here, as always, top right hand corner. I was listening to an episode the other day and I said guys yesterday yeah, yesterday, like I said, I was going on for a few minutes, top right, you were going hard yeah, top right hand corner, that's where you're going to find the subscribe button um, we spoke to all the powers that be facebook, um, zuckerberg, zucks, elon, cause, is that grand cardone, grand cardone, all of these guys that have? Do you hear? Trump's media company went public and he set to make billions? Did you hear that?
Robby:yeah, sick got a media company. Yeah, yeah, yeah, trump's. Trump's doing sick shit for someone who's um, yeah, I'm gonna go move to the US. I'd vote for him and vote for him. I'm gonna go move to where does he live? Doesn't matter. Texas, doesn't matter. I'd vote for him. Yeah, absolutely Should do an episode on Trump.
George:Next episode. Stay tuned in. Tune in Guys. Thanks for listening. Yeah, but in all seriousness, we've been getting quite a few downloads per month of our podcast and we love it and we want to say thank you to everyone that listens on a regular basis. We really appreciate it. Share this podcast with a female friend, yeah, yeah, but only give them 20% off the podcast, and that was a joke.
Robby:You shouldn't have female friends. That was a joke. This whole podcast has gone sideways. This may never air. This may never air. This may never air.
George:It hasn't been that bad. We've been more podcasting. I'm going to air it. I'm going to do this live. That's what we're going to do a live podcast one day. That'd be pretty cool too. Thanks a lot, guys. See you next time. Catch you then. Bye.