Ever wondered what it takes to truly make it in the cutthroat business world? Join us as we share our personal trials and triumphs from the construction industry trenches, diving into the nitty-gritty of tender submissions and strategic decision-making. But that's not all - we're also taking you on an eye-opening tour of the Canton Fair, a hub of global trade where the art of negotiation and branding comes alive. It's a whirlwind of insights that promise to shake up your understanding of what it means to succeed in the import-export business.
Life's contrasts never cease to amaze, and in this latest chat, we're getting real about the stark disparities in living standards. From the crowded streets of China to the comfort of our developed homelands, we discuss how these differences sharpen our gratitude for life's simple pleasures. We also tackle the often-overlooked relationship between fear and self-doubt and the barriers they create in both personal and professional realms. It's a candid conversation that will remind you to take stock of the beauty in the now, while pushing boundaries and embracing the hard work that paves the way for achievement.
As we hit the halfway mark of our podcast's inaugural year, we're reflecting on the journey thus far and the lessons learned along the way. From recognizing the interconnectedness of physical and mental wellness to understanding the power of the company we keep, this episode is packed with transformative moments and hard-earned wisdom. It's about finding gratitude in the everyday, overcoming internal obstacles, and the potential within each of us to turn challenges into victories. So, take a moment to join us, and let's celebrate perspective, perseverance, and the potential for greatness that lies within us all.
Ever wondered what it takes to truly make it in the cutthroat business world? Join us as we share our personal trials and triumphs from the construction industry trenches, diving into the nitty-gritty of tender submissions and strategic decision-making. But that's not all - we're also taking you on an eye-opening tour of the Canton Fair, a hub of global trade where the art of negotiation and branding comes alive. It's a whirlwind of insights that promise to shake up your understanding of what it means to succeed in the import-export business.
Life's contrasts never cease to amaze, and in this latest chat, we're getting real about the stark disparities in living standards. From the crowded streets of China to the comfort of our developed homelands, we discuss how these differences sharpen our gratitude for life's simple pleasures. We also tackle the often-overlooked relationship between fear and self-doubt and the barriers they create in both personal and professional realms. It's a candid conversation that will remind you to take stock of the beauty in the now, while pushing boundaries and embracing the hard work that paves the way for achievement.
As we hit the halfway mark of our podcast's inaugural year, we're reflecting on the journey thus far and the lessons learned along the way. From recognizing the interconnectedness of physical and mental wellness to understanding the power of the company we keep, this episode is packed with transformative moments and hard-earned wisdom. It's about finding gratitude in the everyday, overcoming internal obstacles, and the potential within each of us to turn challenges into victories. So, take a moment to join us, and let's celebrate perspective, perseverance, and the potential for greatness that lies within us all.
Did you think it was going to be easy? Did you think, the moment you made the decision to go, I want this level of life that it was going to be easy, that it was going to be handed to you?
Robby:Well, mosey says it really well he goes we grossly underestimate what it's going to take to get what you want Like.
George:We think I just do this much, I'm going to get that particular thing he's like and most of the time we are way off, and not everything that's not to say everything you do in your life has to be difficult in order for you to reap the reward right, but you do need to take risks. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to Million Dollar Days. We are very excited and very happy to have you here. I hope you are having a million dollar day again.
Robby:I almost finished your sentence. Yeah, I was like do I don't I you could?
George:you can jump in at any time I will because, thanks, unless you're following the script which I said emailed you last night, you got that, yeah, yeah of course, yeah, good, hey man I feel like I haven't seen you in a while I actually haven't, yeah, in a while.
Robby:It's been a while, it's been a while and I wanted to say some stuff here and I'm like just let's roll and I'll talk to you live yeah, you guys get to be part of the conversation and we don't hold back.
George:We'll tell it as it is and we'll say it as we would normally have this conversation, but super pumped. We haven't actually filmed a few episodes in a while. So you guys obviously to let you in on some but. But bth is that right no bts sorry bts but did you just say super pumped? Super pumped. Hey, I want to tell you something else about that. No, no, definitely no, I've scheduled to watch it. Oh, that's a start. Yeah, so I'm gonna watch it when I'm on the plane on the way to vegas.
Robby:The whole thing. You're gonna love it. Yeah, trust me, yeah maybe you might jump back on the plane and say we've got shit to do that part.
George:That big huh yeah, that's cool. So we're talking about super pump. For those of you that are just tuning in for the first time on stan, is it? It's on stand. Yeah, I would have watched it earlier. I just don't have a stand subscription, so I've got to actually do the subscription. That's the hurdle, so I'll do that just massive hurdle well, fuck, you're just adding another roadblock. Make the game easy to win. Make it easy to win. You could have just given me your login details.
Robby:Not that we do that, not that anyone has ever done that, not that I'm using someone else's login details, of course not. No, there wouldn't be.
George:We'll never do that, would it be stan we'll never do that uh, yeah, so we haven't seen each other in a little while, so we've got a bit to catch up on and uh, six shit's been happening on both ends yeah, good. So, like I've been the last few episodes, it's like every episode I'm saying I'm so fucking busy, so fucking busy, so fucking busy. And I have been, yeah, this week well, last week was my first week back as far as in the construction business and work the whole week in the construction business didn't do anything else for anyone else, for anything else how?
Robby:how long is a week, like you realize? Oh my, I got so much time. I'm doing this one thing and one thing only. That's it, yeah so true man how many you said that?
George:heaps, yeah, I've got three tenders out last week. You would have never done that previously, probably not. Yeah, of course I would have man animal don't, don't fuck around sorry for underresting, that's all right.
George:But they got three tenders out last week and they were all good jobs. One of them, they already said no because we were over their budget, which is totally fine. I kind of knew that anyway, and I didn't spend too much time on that one because I knew where they were situated anyway. So I gave them the figure as where I believe the job was, and the good thing was I only got a good relationship with that architect and she goes yep, you're around the same figure as all the other builders too. I said, well, let's just go to the show. I know what I'm talking about. A but b, this job isn't anywhere near what they need this job to be at, so good that I didn't spend too much time on that one. But the other two were really decent sized projects, both in the same area, and both were a red hot crack at winning. So I'm really good that we got all that out and we were were supposed to go away.
George:I was supposed to go away with you last weekend on a training course that we were going to go into Queensland and I had to decline because I needed to prioritize. I needed to go. You know what? This is where I need to put my attention right now. As much as I would have liked to have gone, it wasn't the best thing for me right there. And then and I think some people get caught up in that shit too it's like, oh you know, I've got to go, I've got to go. They sacrifice something which, yes, would be good, but not for the greater good, and I made that call myself. So last week I was happy to stay in and do that and it paid off in the end.
George:Now this week again, I've actually spent the whole morning on site and literally walked into the door and got ready doing this podcast now. So it's good, I've caught up a little bit, but I just want to go even harder again and it's great that I've had that. Really, I feel like I've achieved so much in the last month. Yeah, how good. Yeah, so good. And I've worked really really hard, like night times, like last when was it On Friday? No, yeah, friday night I worked till 1 am getting this tender ready so I could submit it. Because I said to him I said you're going to get it tonight and it was the next morning technically, but he still got it. So got it to him, worked that hard and now seeing the results pay off. So today I was able to spend some time drive around to all my projects, see what's going on, chat to all the boys and then back in here and hit it again.
George:I've got some other stuff cooking and yeah, really excited cooking and yeah, really excited. That's awesome man and you, you got some big news you were recently overseas.
Robby:I was, I was. I've just gotten back from china excellent china, as uh trump said. Yeah, um, so how was it? It was interesting, man. Yeah, really, really interesting. I went for the canton fair nice.
George:I've always wanted to go and so, so cool that you went. You've got to do it.
Robby:I think it's one of those things you need to go and see to be able to actually fathom. Well, one like lots of people, lots of people.
George:People selling or people walking through. Both, yeah, combination 60,000 vendors. Wow, yeah, I was about to say I did 45ks. Shit, yeah, walking, yeah, so were you there every single day.
Robby:I'm there for three days. So for three, and on the third day we did 40 something k's. Yeah, yeah, I was man. I was. My legs were cooked. At the end I was how'd you catch a?
George:um? What's it called golf buggy? Don't they have golf buggies?
Robby:you can just cruise around yeah, you can't cruise around in them, but they do have like a kind of like. It's kind of like a little train, like a cart with a bunch of seats attached to it and if you need to get from one side to the other you can wait in line. But dude, the lines are massive, yeah.
George:So for context, we've got Jeff Shedd. You ever been there who you never heard of?
Overlap:Jeff Shedd, no, no shit, I thought it was, have you heard?
Robby:of it.
George:Yeah, no, no he wouldn't have heard of it. What the fuck's he know he was in Mongolia. He's not even listening, he's got his airpods in. Have you heard of Jeff Shedd? Have you ever heard of Jeff Shedd? See, it's not a thing. No, it is so. Jeff Kennett. He, the, was premier and he built the exhibition building and they called it Jeff Shedd.
Robby:Hawthorne.
George:Sporter, yeah, so anyway, exhibition building.
Overlap:Yeah.
George:You know, have you been there before? Yeah, inside it whenever they have like a home show or some shit like that. So that's pretty big. How big is a Canton Fair compared to that? And I've heard it's like six storeys high.
Robby:Picture this yeah, it's way bigger than that. So again, let's go one step back. Yeah, it's way bigger than that. So again let's go one step back.
George:Yeah, what is the Canton Fair? Because there's probably people that never even heard of it.
Robby:The Canton Fair is like the biggest import-export fair in the world.
George:Okay, you can go there and buy anything. These cups.
Robby:Anything, yeah, when I say anything, I mean anything Like it's bizarre when you see, dude, I went and I saw products branded, products that I see in bunnings, no, and I'm like oh my god, is that from here?
George:yeah, no shit like wow, yeah, how is that? Mention any names yeah, I won't mention any names, makita you know what?
Robby:yeah, makita, definitely like a lot of those dude you go around. There's so many drills, power drill like power tools, everything like full kits. I reckon milwaukee, makita, everything definitely comes out of there yeah without a down the world you might full kits and you get them at the biggest, the biggest. Um, I guess shock is when you see how, what the cost is, yeah, and then you're like what?
George:yeah, but that's a bulk. And then you're like what yeah, but that's a bulk too. Yeah, You're not just going in there buying one.
Robby:They have different. They have what they call an MOQ minimum order quantity.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:And different products have different MOQs. Yeah, they'll always try and get you for as much as they can, but you can negotiate. Yeah, part of the fun, of course. You can negotiate. Yeah, part of the fun. Yeah, and the higher the less, the more, the lower the more.
George:Yes, that makes sense. That makes sense Absolutely.
Robby:So the less you get, the more you're going to pay. If you order thousands, they'll cut your deal. Yeah, but when you uncover some of the costs of some of these things and then what you pay for at retail here, and then you're like a lot of people are cutting into this pie or someone's making a shit ton of money, I reckon it's the other way one person potentially yeah, but for the bigger brands for sure but they would also mass produce they have
Robby:yeah, they have those agreements in place yeah, you just see things and you're like how much is this? And then when they tell you, you're like what? But I need to buy a thousand Okay.
George:But even then yeah.
Robby:But these would sell for so much more like ridiculous amount. You buy something that can retail for like 40 bucks a year. You might buy it for 60 cents, yeah, and then you're like what 60 cents this retails for 40. I bought this for 40 bucks.
Overlap:Yeah, and happily yeah and.
George:I was thinking I've got a deal.
Robby:Yeah, you know things you might pay $150 for, you might buy for $4.
George:So you could go there, buy something and brand it yourself, could you?
Robby:Yeah, if you buy enough, they will brand it for you.
George:Yeah, so I could put PASCON on all the tools and equipment. If I really wanted to, you could go and have PASCON power drills.
Robby:Yeah, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. Yeah, you could buy all of that you could buy. I bought one thing while I was there. Usually you don't most people don't buy while they're there but I bought a sample thing while I was there. I bought a car scanner.
George:A car scanner?
Robby:Yeah, like you know, a diagnostic tool for cars.
George:Where you plug it into the ECU.
Robby:Yeah, yeah. So I bought a big one of those. Yeah, retailed for like anywhere between sort of three and they can get up to 15k something. Yeah, uh, I bought a pretty decent one from there and he said he's like, if you want, if you buy a thousand, we'll put your brand on everything. Yeah, like, give me one, let me take someone. They're going to test it and then we can see what sort of happens for me.
Robby:Yeah, and you know your shit too, because yeah, yeah so I bought one um and I brought it back and I think it was about a thousand bucks for one. And then it's like, okay, and if you buy more, they'll cut your deal and they'll brand it for you and you can go and have your own device. Super cool, really cool. Yeah, you need to. I think everyone should go. If you're into business in any way, it's arbitrage, yeah, absolutely.
George:If you're into business in any way, it's arbitrage, absolutely it is. You're buying something cheap and selling it for more.
Robby:And there's tricks to the game, like understanding MOQs, understanding what they want, understanding shipping costs, insurance, because if you buy I didn't know this until I went and the person I went with was saying that if you buy something and you don't get insurance like shipping insurance, you don't get shipping insurance and the ship, like the container apparently containers fall off ships all the time.
Robby:Yeah, if the container comes off the ship, you're done Like that could be. You could have 100K worth of stock and it's gone. That's it 100K down the drain. Go swimming if you want to find it, and no one fetches them nothing. I'm sure there probably is some no, I don't reckon there would be.
Overlap:I reckon, I just reckon they'll become?
George:yeah, I think so. I reckon they'll just become part of coral reef, or they'll just disintegrate over time. The rust will leave it.
Robby:You know, I reckon it's worth sending someone down for chain and chaining up to it and pulling it, think they'll be able to too far down.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, I've heard like stuff with people import cars and stuff like that and porsches and shit, yeah it goes straight off the edge like nothing I'm gonna do insane, yeah, insane, because then they probably account for that as well. I feel like we're gonna lose two percent of our stock yeah but yeah, very cool, um, very cool experience man, very cool first time going to china as well everyone speak english at canton fair at the yeah, Did you need translators at all.
George:I've heard some of the people there like translators. They know like seven languages fluently.
Robby:So they do have translators. Yeah, I saw some people asking for translators. Everyone we went and saw spoke English well enough to communicate.
Overlap:To communicate.
Robby:yeah, but yeah, it was a very, very cool experience First time in China. That was um culture shock. No, I wouldn't say culture shock, I would say I thought it was something different my envision.
George:When I envision china and I think of shanghai like the capital city, I think it's technologically advanced, I think it's very clean, I think people be very polite, I think that that's what I consider when I think of it, of china, but then I've heard very like, almost the opposite yes, so that was my.
Robby:I had people telling me, like china's so advanced, australia's behind yeah you know, china you can't.
Robby:Cash is not a thing anymore. Everything is paid through wechat, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, cool. And the person I was going with, josh, he's like, are you going to get any cash out? And I was like, no, dude, we're going to China. Like why would I get cash out? Like I'm just going to download WeChat, thinking this is the season. Where's your cash going to be accepted? Yeah, and it's not as advanced as it's made out to be, in the sense of people want cash, people like cash. What they don't tell you is you can't use your bank cards. Oh right, yeah, most places you can't use your bank card why so?
George:can you tap, you know, with your phone? Can you double tap with your phone? No, oh, no shit. Yeah, so how do you pay?
Robby:we chat, so actually we chat we yeah, you get a, so you've used we chat before, so we chat the the, yeah, the chatting, yeah, the texting app. Inside there there a like you connect your bank card and then there's a button you press and it shows a barcode and they have a scanner. So if you're going to dinner and there's an invoice, they'll scan your barcode.
George:Oh shit, yeah, and then it charges your bank account. That's full on. Eh yeah, it's very different.
Robby:But also you pay them cash and they'll be they much prefer it or like, if you're going to like a, like a mini mart or something, uh, they want you to transfer money to their personal bank account yeah, yeah, cool, so they don't pay tax.
Robby:Yeah and you're like dude, like come on, man like this is and my bank, my thing's in there, like this could be a scam? Yeah, it wouldn't let me, and a com bank wouldn't let me transfer people's bank accounts directly. Um, yeah, it was interesting, dude, I. So the city we went to and I'm gonna completely screw up the pronunciation of it yeah, I think it was like guangzhou or guangzhou, yeah, something along those lines um, and that's where the canton fair is held every year, about 30 million people wow, in a city, yeah shit, that's like the population of australia more than population of austral.
Robby:Consistent traffic.
George:Yeah, never stops, never ends.
Robby:There's always traffic people everywhere.
George:Excuse me, how are you getting around? Is that Ubers Diddy so similar?
Robby:Again through WeChat.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:No, you can't go down on the Diddy app. If you have the Diddy app on your phone, it doesn't work.
George:You've got to go into WeChat, like everyone's using that, so imagine the owners of WeChat. It's the government.
Robby:Yeah, fucking hell.
George:That's what I mean.
Robby:There you go. So they're controlling everything. I'm convinced the Chinese government has full access to my phone. Yeah, no shit, I'm convinced.
George:yeah, why did you say that Was shit popping up and stuff while she was using it? No, nothing's really changed.
Robby:But, but just pay it on. Yeah, you know what I mean.
George:Yeah, but yeah it was very different to what I expected. Man, what were the people like when you're there? So let's start there.
Robby:No, personality yeah. In the sense of you know how like we banter and no, no, no, like. Talk to me in the most efficient way. Use as little words as possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not, hey, how are you? No, no, just direct. Yeah, just tell me what you want and go away.
Robby:No one makes eye contact. Yeah, wow, no eye contact. They're very respectful in the way they hand stuff. Oh, yeah, they always hand stuff Like you give them a business card and they'll take it from you with two hands. Yeah, so I found that I was like, oh, that's cool, that's like nice. But yeah, a lot of people are just in their own. I heard this thing Theo Von says it and he's like China's like all NPCs NPCs yeah, like non-player characters.
Overlap:A bunch of robots.
Robby:No shit, no one makes eye contact. They didn't get it. And then I went there and I was like, oh, I get it, I kind of get it Like everyone's dude. I watched two people bump straight into each other Like full shoulder collide. Yeah, Like they both turned, Didn't even look at each other and kept walking, Kept walking and I was just like imagine that in Australia.
George:Yeah, sorry mate, yeah or Straight up, screw.
Robby:That's it, head buddy. You know what I mean? Like there would definitely be contact Like you would have. There would be a transaction between like hey man, sorry, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Yeah, this was like, let's move on. It was dirtier than I expected, like 20 million people must be a major city. Oh, dude, you got to take your hat off to their ability for them to be able to handle that capacity.
George:Yeah, I think it's very much the same too, though, in saying that, have you ever been to japan? No, but I've heard japan is clean as I've heard japan's amazing polite, real like people are really polite. You have been. Yeah, what's it like? Uh, it's clean in some areas, but it could go like to the city centre at night. It's dirty as fuck, yeah, so that's why.
Robby:And it becomes clean in the morning. That's just the consequence of a lot of people.
George:Yeah, because Japan's got 120, 130 million people. You look at Melbourne. There'd be areas of Melbourne that are shithouse as well.
Robby:Yeah, but so, which leads me to my next thing, that I wanted to say house as well. Yeah, but so which leads me to my next thing that I want to say, which is I thought china was advanced in the sense of and they might be in some areas, or whatever right, I also thought it was a communist country and everyone follows particular laws. Yeah, but they drive like crazy dude, like there is no, they'll cut red lights, they'll cut each other off, they'll squeeze into gaps. It's like insane, like motor scooters will fly past you on the footpath. Yeah, you'll be like whoa man, like this, like it's not a very, it's not as law-abiding as I thought it would be.
George:Yeah, right, yeah, did you have anything there with any? Was there any flow and effect of covid or anything like that? Were people still wearing masks? Were people you know social distancing or anything like that?
Robby:No, dude, you cannot social distance. You're constantly walking next to people Like there's people everywhere.
George:So imagine you hear the stories in the news how they were locked down for such a long time and everyone was confined to their home.
Robby:That's a massive thing to do. It's also a lot of high-rise buildings, a lot of apartments.
George:I suppose it's the only way to fit that many people in such a space like that, isn't it?
Robby:Yeah, I was also very surprised at how much jungle land, like forest, there was when we were flying in, because I was like we're looking at the map and we're over China, but it was like all bush, yeah, cool. I'm thinking, why haven't they consumed up this land Like 1.3 billion people? Yeah, I didn't like the food, yeah, but my biggest takeaway was this I think we sometimes forget how fucking could we have it, dude? Like, because you look at it and you look at what they're doing and you're like this is a and don't get me wrong, it's not horrible. Yeah, but it's definitely a lower quality of life at the bottom. I'm sure there's some people living large.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:But the what's below middle class.
Overlap:Lower class.
Robby:Lower class, is that it, yeah, yeah. So like the lower class, or you know, the bottom 10%, 20% are not living great. And then you think about how the bottom 20% live in Melbourne or Australia and, dude, we have, it's so good man, they use even like the quality of stuff, like the quality of meats and things like that. We, the stuff we get to eat, the stuff we get to see, the stuff we get to do the you know, buildings and everything like here. They don't eat pollution like you hardly.
Robby:I think I saw the sun once wow yeah, it's 32 degrees every day overcast just it's polluted the air. Is it's not clear? Yes, is that what it is? I don't know. Yeah, it's, it's not but you're talking.
George:You're talking about 1.3 billion people. It's also not. It's not clear. You can't see a head here you can seea head here.
Robby:You can't see to a degree like you can see a head here. You can't see To a degree. If you look out into the far distance, like across the city, you can see mist or fog. You know what I mean. And yeah, I think sometimes we really forget how good we have it, and this happens to me all the time and I go overseas and then I remember, fuck man, like we are living so good yeah, and it's like you take things for granted, don't you?
George:we all take it for granted. It's like we wake up in the morning, we can walk. We take that for granted. I think it's human nature for us to feel that way, and what you're saying- so we expect it.
George:I expect my car to start in the morning. I expect you know the tap to run as soon as I turn it on and for it to be clean water coming out of there. I expect the bus will arrive on time. You know all these things that you've got it, that have become a norm for you, and then when you go out and see the rest of the world and see how they're living and what they're doing and what that, what it's like it makes you go shit, you know yeah, and you're got to take your hat off to them for staying and we were actually talking about this before you came in Because for the amount of people they have, the bottom is not that low.
Robby:Like there's other countries that have a lot of people where the bottom is really low. Well, look at India.
George:Yeah, I've never been, but my brother's been and a few other people have been before in the past that have told me it's like poverty, it's below, it's yeah. So you've got lower class and you've got poverty and that's where the majority of people are and the super wealthy are. Just it's like goes poverty, super wealthy. There's nothing in between yeah and it can be full-on this, yeah, this is not that bad.
Robby:Yeah, this is like most people are. You know what I mean. It's okay. But also like we got invited to cheap food. Yeah, cheap, cheap food. Like we went and had dinner one night and it might have cost us 14 bucks yeah, for both of us. Oh shit, yeah. Yeah, like you know what I mean.
Robby:But yeah, man, I think you know we get used to this Well, like today, what a ripper day outside and it's like you just, this is normal life. Yeah, you forget how good it is, you know, and I wanted to, I guess, talk about that today and actually get you guys to focus on how good we've actually got it here, man, like because, fuck, you forget. You forget so much and I forget all the time. Dude, Every time I go overseas it reminds me.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:You know, it reminds me and I think oh man, like thank you, Like that's a sick reminder Because I forget, I forget and I get used to living here and then you get shitty about something small, yeah, and and then you're like, come on, man.
George:Well, next week I'm flying out to the States and for the last week or so, everyone I've been speaking to and I don't remember this myself, but everyone I've been speaking to saying, oh, where are you flying to? I said, yeah, we're going to Vegas, but going through LA like, oh fuck, lax, that's the worst. They make you feel like criminals. You've got to take your shoes off. You gonna take your shoes off. You're gonna do all this.
George:I'm like, yeah, I've been to la once before la airport and it was. I didn't. I don't remember it being that bad. So people will abuse you like full on. And you come here and like you would never expect that at any australian airport for people to be like that and to be that strict and to be yelling at you and abusing you and all this stuff. But apparently lax is one of the worst airports and I've multiple people have told me that over the last two weeks or so, even though I don't remember it. What? Like they're rude to you there. Yeah, like that, but also very pushy, like you can't fuck around at all because you know everything. That happened when was it? Over? Over 10 years ago, 13 years ago, um with uh with america.
Robby:But everyone's saying it's 9, 11.
George:Yeah, it was 20 22 it was, it was far out, yeah, early 23 years ago.
Robby:Yeah, shit Almost, they weren't like that in China, man.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:They did do a thorough search, though, when I was boarding the plane, like coming back, coming back to Australia. They thoroughly searched you in China.
George:Yeah, why's that? You're leaving the country as With them, with you.
Robby:No, no more like a safety. They searched everyone.
George:Who'd you fly with?
Robby:China Southern Airlines.
George:Oh, okay.
Robby:Yeah.
George:So it wasn't one of the Aussie ones or anything like that.
Robby:No, pontus Virgin. It wasn't a bad flight, but they did a thorough search. Eight hours, that's not too bad. Yeah, but they did a super thorough search, like completely pat you down, yeah, to make sure, touch all the, all the important parts, yeah, all the important parts, yeah, I was like man, this is like if I was hiding something here, like you probably would have found it.
Robby:Like like they're touching you around your ankles, touching your socks, all the way up your legs yeah, like every part of you imagine that job. Yeah, and can every single person dude? Yeah, straight through, next, straight through, next straight. Like the girl in front of me was wearing like kind of like flare jeans, yeah, and like they lifted up her jeans and looked around her ankles, I was like this is thorough. In Australia they're like go like this, yeah, and they're like okay, cool.
George:Cool, keep moving. Yeah, and they're like okay, cool, cool keep moving.
George:Yeah, well, they're taking that for granted, aren't they Like that whole, the fact that you go? 99.99% of people are just getting on this plane and going to where they need to go. Never, ever have we thought we would ever have a terrorist attack, someone putting a plane into the Sydney Harbour Bridge or the Rialto. But again, there's that level of comfort and that expectation that we we have here and we're again lucky that we live like that too dude, we've got a good, like ridiculously good.
Robby:It's um, it's a great. I was watching a podcast the other day and do you like jimmy carr? Yes, yeah, he was on the, and he said we forget that. Here's the things we take for granted Hot showers yeah, like hot showers. Yes, we forget that. 50 years ago it wasn't as accessible. 50 years ago, not that long ago, in the seventies, it was much harder, it wasn't as common. You know what I mean. Now, if the hot water runs out in 15 minutes, you're upset. Do you know what I mean? Or if the pressure's not great in the shower, you're like this is a shit shower and it's like the things we take for granted. Man, we get comfortable, we get used to what is and we fall into a shitty state.
George:Yeah, I completely agree with you, completely agree. And what I reckon to get some perspective on that and what people should be doing is practice gratitude to combat that. Because if you can wake up in the morning, you know what I'm so glad I get to have a warm shower today. I'm so glad that, you know, my kids, my wife, my dog, my goldfish are all happy and healthy, everything like that. And that's when you can start. You can start it off real simple, like thinking about things like that and going deeper and going you know what. I'm really grateful that I get to have an opportunity to, or that we won this job last week. I'm really grateful that I'm going through a difficult period in my life.
George:Then you start looking at that and I was speaking to an old client of mine and he's Muslim and they just finished Ramadan as well, and he was talking to me about it. He was actually at one of my events last week and we were having a chat and he goes yeah, sorry I couldn't come yesterday, blah, blah, I had to leave somewhere. He goes we went out at the back on during the event, had to go to a prayer room and all this stuff. He's just talking to me a little bit about the religion and everything he was what was going on about. And he goes. We look at we're talking about. On the topic of depression, he goes you look at a lot of muslim people like real um true believers, as in following the religion and the faith, because you don't see many of us depressed. Okay, it's really interesting. He goes because we have such a high belief that God is doing this to us to make us better. It could be a difficult time. It could be a death in the family, it could be, you know, a sickness for myself, whatever it might be, they're following that. They believe that everything is happening to them for a reason and to make them a better person, to make them, to test them, to give them the tools, the strength they need to carry on with the rest of their life. And it's such a powerful concept and if people could use that in their day-to-day life again, the happiness level, the gratitude that you will experience, everything will be so much better.
George:And it came up the other day for myself when we did that episode a few weeks back, months back, when you said you lost the plot when your car wouldn't start. Yeah Right, and you were so fucking shitty. Your car wouldn't start, no one was helping you. You were waving a 50 at people. They still wouldn't help you, nothing. And you finally got a start and you were over the moon had. The same thing happened to me two, three months later, just a few weeks ago. My car wouldn't start and it was stuck in gear and a whole range of shit had to go through it that whole time. If that had happened to me before we had that conversation, I reckon it would have been very similar to you. What the fuck my car's not starting, losing my mind. You know what I did instead?
Robby:I started to laugh yeah, because it was preempted it was, but it's also.
George:But it also helped me even through that moment. Yes, it was annoying. Yes, it cost me money. Yes, it cost me money. Yes, it cost me time. Oh, poor George, he has to go and his $150,000 car won't fucking start. Poor George, he has to toll it to Land Rover to get it fixed. Poor George, he has to pay $1,800 to get the car sorted. You know, poor George doesn't have a car for three days. You know, and it's so true, like mate, there'd be people in this world that would die to have their $150,000 car not working for three days.
Robby:Do you know what I mean, dude? 99% of the world would swap positions. Whoever's listening to this right now? 99% of the world would swap positions with you in a heartbeat.
George:Wherever you are in your position, in your life right now.
Robby:You could be having the worst month, the worst year. 99% of the people across the world swap positions with you in a heartbeat, just because we live.
George:Yeah, andrew Tate said this a little while ago and he was talking about I think he was talking along the lines of depression, but he was talking about even just challenges in your life and how you get through it and all that sort of stuff. And he goes listen, because if you can go into the hospital and speak to a terminally ill cancer patient and make them feel sorry for you about the shit that's going in in your life, then maybe you have a right to be upset. Other than that, shut the fuck up. He's 100% right. He's 100% right, 100% right. If you can get up and you're alive, you're healthy, you're happy and you can do things, you've got some challenges in your life. It's fine, mate.
Robby:Yeah, you get up. You get to get up. That's right. You know what's a. Who else does that as well. Like really good. Gary V used to always say if you're unmotivated, go to an old people, like a person's home, go to a retirement home. Go to an old person's home and look at someone and see the regret in their eyes. Yeah, and see the regret in their eyes. They didn't, because they didn't seize the moment. They didn't, they didn't ask the girl out.
George:Yeah, they didn't fucking start the business. Yeah, they didn't back themselves, they didn't quit the job, they didn't go on the holiday, they didn't have the kids they didn't do what they wanted. They let fear or doubt wow, that's so good dude like it's so true, that's what it comes down to, yeah man fear and doubt, and I see this in so many people, so many people.
George:I've got friends that are so fucking smart, right, and in their own right should be multi-millionaires. Just don't take that next step. Don't take that next step to go to do this, to to go out on their own. They've got the golden handcuffs. Oh, I can't do that. Yeah, dude, but you know, if you did, you could do this, you could do this, you could do this. Give it a crack what's the worst that could happen. You know, and again it comes down to that, and I think a lot of people, 95% of the population, are probably like that, don't they?
Robby:That fear controlled them. Yeah.
George:Like even the guys that take that leap of faith and go you know, I'm going to start my own business. Even then they become constricted by what they're doing. I had a chat with a couple of people the other day and he was talking to me saying I've got this, I'm working 15 hour days. He goes, I'm up, it's, I'm up at four, I don't get home till six or do this. I said I already know what your problem is, mate. I already know what your problem is. You need to employ people, because I can't do that. He thinks he has to do everything himself to get ahead because no one else is going to do it right. People are going to do wrong by him. So, mate, you're just going to burn out your family's going to suffer.
George:You're going to suffer, probably end up in divorce and then everything you're trying to work for, to achieve for other people, for yourself, it's just going to go down the toilet because you're going about it all wrong. You're thinking too small.
Robby:Thinking too small that's probably how everything looks back up. Yeah, yeah, there's this cool thing um, tony robbins says pretty sure it's tony robbins. And he says he says because you're talking about the Muslim guys and they're never depressed. And then you're talking about fear and he says what's the difference between fear and faith? They're both made up, right.
Overlap:They're both made up.
Robby:Faith is made up.
George:There's no way to prove faith. You don't know exactly and fear is made up 100%. It's a preconceived notion of something that may or may not ever happen. In both instances Exactly.
Robby:One difference Fear is your thoughts unguided yeah, sick. Whereas faith is your thoughts directed in a particular way. Yeah, that's it. That's so good. It's the only difference between them. So good, yeah, and you look at your faith in anything faith in yourself, just yourself.
George:It doesn't have to be a religious thing. Have faith in yourself, have the belief that this will work. You know, I have that unwavering belief. You know this is a sick topic. This is sick I. When was it about two weeks ago? Yeah, let's just go with. It could have been less, could have been, yeah, two weeks.
Overlap:It was two weeks two weeks to the day, to the second two weeks ago, feeling sorry for myself.
George:Feeling sorry for myself why, because I didn't have things that I thought I would by now. You know, I had to sit there. I had to sit there like I was, I was, I was not down just because I was going back. I've been so, so busy lately and doing so much and it's like fuck, all this work, all this work, all this work. I still haven't got those things yet that I thought I would have at this age, that I thought I would have by the time I was 40. You know, the house paid off the cars, the chopper, the yacht, the holidays, everything. And it brought me back to a quote that I really like, and I think it was Chris Wilkes or something like that, the guy that does a podcast, chris Williamson, I don't know, he's friends with Hormozy.
Robby:Yeah.
George:Chris Williamson. Yeah, williamson, you've already achieved goals that you said would make you happy. And it's so true, so true. I had to step back a second.
Robby:Sorry, you posted that the other day. Yeah, yeah.
George:Yeah, and it was probably around that time because I was thinking about it and it's like I feel, even though I felt sorry for myself in that moment, it was just a split moment, it wasn't for like days.
Robby:Yeah, dude, and it happens to all of us, but it was there.
George:And I right now, but I can't do that because I haven't got it yet. It's like I should have had it. There's guys out there that have got. I just want one and there's people that have 30.
George:It's like again thinking small and as much as I felt sorry for myself, I was like you know what? Fuck it. Stop being a little bitch, stop being a bitch. Did you want it to be? Did you think it was going to be easy? Did you think, the moment you made the decision to go I want this level of life that it was going to be easy, that it was going to be handed to you? You're just going to go down the road, get a lottery ticket. You're fucking losing. Because you think you're going to win. You've got to be in it to win it. No, you fucking idiot, you've got to be desperate to win it. All right, go down there and get a lottery ticket and think, all big eye, all my problems will go away. Then, no, no, and it was good to reframe myself in that moment turn around and go. You know what I can keep working. Then I pumped out that work. I felt good about it.
George:All right and not everything. That's not to say, everything you do in your life has to be difficult in order for you to reap the reward right. But you do need to take risk. Sometimes the risk pays off and it's instant gratification, Like you get that you start making a new product. You go to Canton Fair. It motivates you to buy something. You buy it, you bring it here, it sells. You make millions upon millions upon millions. Great. Other times you'll go invest in 1,000 units at $1,000 a pop, spend a million bucks and you can't sell 20. Oh shit, I made made under brand in debt. Better sort this out so. But you, as long as you don't give up, gotta keep going, gotta keep working gotta keep grinding.
Robby:um, homozy says it really well. He goes we grossly underestimate what it's going to take to get what you want. Like we think, if I just do this much like, if I do this much like, I'm going to get that particular thing he's like, and most of the time we are way off. Yeah, like we think this much work or this much time or this much effort is going to allow us to get to that thing and it's like you needed way more. Yeah, and that's why most people take so long to get success. Yeah, you know what I mean and that's why most people take so long to get success. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's why most people do.
Robby:You know what I like the most? Look, I'm a fan of Homo. I think the content he puts out is amazing. But you know what I like the most about him? It's that he is only a couple of years older than me. Yeah, he could put me in his back pocket with ease. Yeah, and he just humbles me. I'm like I and he says this in his book as well like man. I'm so shit like man. Like you know how, how do I?
Overlap:how do I?
George:not have a hundred million. I remember that. I remember when he said yeah and he says like, is that the first one, or the second one.
Robby:First one yeah, I remember that's about how he saw conor mcgregor make 600 million dollars and carly jenner's almost a billionaire and he's like, and he was like 27 and he's like man I, and it's funny. That's the moment I was having.
Overlap:That's the exact moment I was having. Yeah, because you're like man, I suck, Like there's these people who are not better than me.
Robby:Yes, that's the other thing.
George:You're looking at that and going look at this guy.
Robby:Yeah, and you're like he's not better than me, he's not smarter than me, dude, excuses, like he doesn't deserve it or he got lucky must be nice dude, how much time do you? You catch yourself out like you start justifying their position. You know, oh yeah, nah must have fucking must know, his dad must know someone, yeah, or they must have got him in or got lucky or grew up in a better area, whatever it is.
George:I used this analogy the other day at my event and I go, I go honestly, guys, and it works every time. Every time I this, and even now that you guys listen to this, I want you to think of a young kid, 25 years old. 25 years old and you're at the survey, you're putting gas and he rocks up to also to put gas. Difference is he's in his Lambo. All right, as soon as he steps out, he's in his Lambo. Clean shaven young kid, mid-25s. You look at him and what do you think? Initially? What's the first thing you're going to think about? All of them?
George:I say this to everyone in the room I'm like drug dealer, straight up Drug dealer. Daddy's boy won the lottery crypto, whatever. Trust fund kid, trust fund kid. That's what you're thinking straight up. It is so uncomprehensive to you that this kid was working his ass off and earned that car. It's so out of the realms of possibility that you think the only way he can get that car is if he was doing something illegal or it was given to him. It's the only way he was able to get it, when the true reality is perhaps. He said you know what, when my mates are 18 and they get their license, they're going out to the clubs and getting drunk and doing drugs and doing all this shit.
George:I'm going to sit home and work yeah because by the time I'm 25, they're all going to be looking at me with my lambo and all this sort of shit. And now you're 45 and you still don't have the shit that I've achieved because I've done things differently. I've done things in a way that have are outside of the norm and the realm of your possibilities, that you think the only way I've achieved it is because I'm doing something wrong?
Robby:Yeah, doing something illegal.
George:Yeah and that will happen with us too. Or got lucky, yeah, that will happen with us too. People always see that end result too. They look at that end result and go. They don't see the years of turmoil, of heartache, of blood, sweat and tears. They just go look at that as we say it must be nice. Someone said that to me the other day. They actually said to me they go, it must be nice. It was actually one of my employees, it must be nice being the boss of Pascon or whatever it was. That's right.
George:I was at the gym at like 9 o'clock or something and they text me. They go oh, can you do this? I said or something. And they text me. They go oh, can you do this? I said, no, I'm at the gym. Oh, it must be nice. Okay, you know what it is. Yeah, it is nice. Yeah, and pack your shit up. I go work hard. No, I said, work hard, keep working. That's what I just responded back to. Keep working hard, put the, put in the hours, make the company lots of money to make sure that I can continue to do this that's kicking the teeth that's it.
George:But you know what, why shouldn't I, yeah, take on all the risk? I pay everyone's wages. I do everything I've got to do, yeah, also you're fucking working till 1am.
Robby:Yeah, exactly, they'll um, they'll switch stuff by three out of the office by five that's right, and I'm not.
George:I'm not condoning that, like, at the end, it's not theirs, not their business, I don't expect that from anyone. But in the same token, it's a double-edged sword. It is, that's right, that's right. So what do you reckon? One of the like what can we give people from this conversation right now? You know what?
Robby:I was actually fucking just reminding me. This is fun. Um, I was actually thinking about this the other day and I was uh watching one of the. I was watching because I watch back the episodes. Do you watch back the episodes? Do I watch back? Do I? I was watching back the episodes and I was thinking we need a. We were talking about a book on one of the episodes.
George:Yeah, do you remember which one?
Robby:And I think it might have been the PBD Patrick B David book, and I said I've started Choose your Enemies Wisely, and you were talking about your next five moves or we'll talk something.
George:I can't remember yeah.
Robby:And I thought we need to have like, imagine we had a concept of like, something where people could engage, like it was like hey, this is now, this will air in a few weeks. This next week. Yeah, yeah, so this will air in a few weeks. This will air next week. Yeah, yeah, so this will air at the end of April, start of May. What's the date next Wednesday?
George:First.
Robby:Yeah, so it'll air on the 1st of May. This will be the 1st of May and imagine we said, okay, cool, new month, May. This is a book we're going to read and we just touch on it. Yeah, cool, just on it just because if for those who want to learn and get or something, something along those lines do you know what I mean?
Robby:it's like a, a theme that carries on throughout the thing, because I also think it's important to show people that we do the work as well, like we don't just sit here and talk about a book like that book's finished yeah and I finished another book and now you know what I mean and it's like, I think, sharing that with people and having them, having the audience, uh, participate in that as well, even though silently, but they can participate and feel more a part of something, not necessarily a book. It might be something that we touch on. It might be this is the focus of the month. It might be something that we can carry on from episode to episode. Yeah, I was thinking of doing something like that. Yeah, absolutely we should. Yeah, I think that'll be pretty cool. How?
George:did I start talking about that? We're talking about what can we give people? Oh, yes, what can we give people away, like from this topic, and what we're talking about, like, how can they start? Because it's you know, know, as I said, we live in a good country. We got a lot of really good, positive things. I mentioned before that you could definitely start with gratitude and start looking at things like that.
Overlap:What would you?
George:what else do you reckon we can help people with in this instance if they're in their life right now and maybe bouncing in the same spot, or maybe they've had a bad day today? And the other thing I heard too if you can think yourself into a bad mood, you can also think yourself into a good mood, all right. So there's, there's tools at your disposal, man, like even the internet, like fuck, you're telling me. You're telling me, 30 years ago, when our parents were working in their day-to-day jobs, they could have just picked up audible and start and just download a book and go call, I'm just going to listen to this, get in the right mood. Or listen to this podcast and get in the right mood. No, they couldn't. You've got so many tools at your disposal.
George:And if you're in a bad space too I heard this this morning because I was listening to a podcast If you're in a bad space mentally, let's say you know what the best thing you could possibly do right now? Just go for a walk. Just go for a walk, just start with a little step, start exercising, because your physical health will determine, will benefit your mental health, and it takes your mind off the problem that you're experiencing and then, eventually, you're going to build and build and build on your physical health, which will then benefit your mental health too.
Robby:Yeah, there's a good thing about if you're sad, get so. Sadness is a stuck state. Yeah, when you're sad, it's so. Sadness is a stuck state. Yeah, when you're sad, it's very hard to get out of it, because when you're sad, you're down.
Overlap:Yeah.
Robby:But then if you can get angry about being sad, then anger is actually a state you can move. You can take action with yeah, because when you're angry you'll do shit. You throw shit at the wall. You know what I mean. You will get up and take action. You throw shit at the wall. You know what I mean. You will get up and take action and then, with the like. So changing from sat to getting angry about being in that shitty place can sometimes allow you to then go take, take some action. Go work out, go for a run Like you've gone for an angry run Not for a long time or you go and you pump weights just because you're so, or you do a hundred pushups. Will you do 100 push-ups? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it completely changes your style.
George:I did 100 push-ups before this episode just because I was too pumped to do this.
Robby:That should be a thing. We'll make a run and do push-ups, all right. Well, I'm going to start the episode 20 push-ups. Let's go, come on.
George:I did that, yeah, a few months late last year I was shitty about something. I was just gonna go to gym, yeah, and you just do. You know what you're exerting it I. I lifted more weight than I had. I did personal best that night as well and like it didn't feel like it was difficult, could have kept going, yeah because there's a different source of energy.
George:Yeah, and I was like I felt so much better after it got home that morning, got home that night, had a shower, went to bed and I was all right and then got up the next morning, hit the battles again and moved on from there.
Robby:Yeah, I think sometimes you just need a reset, like sometimes you just need to. You know You're human, life's a whirlwind, dude. Like fuck, this first four months has been ridiculously like just so much stuff happening, so much. And then something, as soon as one thing isn't going the way you want, all of a sudden it's like oh fuck, this fuck that you know, and it's like you get shitty and then you stop and you just kind of realize you, you need something in your life that allows you to stop. I think that's really important and I think that's what one of the biggest benefits of gratitude as well it forces you to stop and look at now, yeah, absolutely.
George:I think sometimes like, dude, that event on the weekend, nothing groundbreaking, yeah, but the stop for two days was sick, and also the connection with the other people in the room, the fact that you can sit down with them too and have those conversations. Dude, I was speaking to scott. He called me up. Actually, well, he answered your phone when I called you.
Overlap:I dropped his birthday the other day, guys as well.
George:So make sure you send him some birthday love and subscribe to this channel.
George:Yeah, as a birthday gift, as a birthday gift. So I called him and Scottie answered and Scott, we'll get Scott on the podcast because he's got a great story. But he get scott on the um podcast because he had a great story but he was chatting. He goes. Listen man, he goes. I've been mia for a little while. We just had some, had some shit going down. He probably told you about it, but he goes. I've just had a whole bunch of shit going down. He goes.
George:But when we catch up, uh, I'll tell you all about it and we'll we'll get stuck into it. I said, yeah, sure man, I go. Cool, I'm here. I know you've been busy, I know you feel out and full, flat out. Uh, scott's a builder as well, just like me, so we've got a lot that we can relate to in that space. But uh, he's doing in a different sector. And I said, yeah, mate, no worries, like, let's catch up when you're back. But even for him he goes. I'm glad I came down because it's it's abled me to have that conversation with people. Have that reset. Let my mind go for a second and then get back into it when I go, when to it.
Robby:It is the greatest thing, I reckon, even the people in the room. I was actually on the second day we were having breakfast and they're pretty high level people in that room, right, and I was sitting down at a table with a couple of people. I'll listen to this.
Overlap:Of course they were listening to this.
Robby:Of course, they were having a conversation that was had me feeling out of my depth.
Overlap:Oh, wow, yeah, it was beyond me Really.
George:I'm quite surprised about that.
Robby:Yeah, no no, it was like a very high-level business conversation with things that I haven't had much to do with, and I'm like and they're not much older than me.
Robby:They're not like uh, josh is my age, yeah, yeah, and that's why, you know, shout out to josh. What I like about josh is he makes me feel like I'm shit. Yeah, because he's my age and he's achieved so much more. I'm like you're not going out, you know. And um, I was sitting there and I was like, and then I started to think, started to feel sorry for myself. Yeah, I swear, was like, and then I started to think, started to feel sorry for myself, I swear to God. And then caught myself pretty quickly. Good, and the reframe was you don't want to be the smartest person in this room, like. This is a benefit, like, listen to the conversation, take it in, because if you now, if there's something below you, what?
George:are you doing? Are you feeding your?
Robby:ego to say, yeah, I'm smarter than everyone here. What are you doing? Are you feeding your ego to say, yep, smarter than everyone here. No, you want to surround yourself with people who know more than you.
George:Without a doubt, yeah, without a doubt. And as you that's the best way to put it is you're feeding your own ego.
Robby:When you yeah, if you're the best in the room, you don't want to never be the smartest person.
George:I'd love to employ people that are so much smarter than me. Makes my job so much easier.
Robby:But they should be dude If they specialize in that one thing, like if they come in and they're just marketers or they're just sales managers. Are you so arrogant that you think you can put 30% of something into your life and think like I'm going to do this at 30%, you're going to do it at 100%, but I'm going to beat you yeah.
Robby:Like and think like I'm going to do this at 30%, you're going to do it at a hundred, but I'm going to beat you. Yeah, like, come on. If one person is dedicated to one thing directly, how can you be so arrogant or ignorant to think that you're going to beat that person at that thing?
George:Yeah, okay, then let's do it. Another sex, another place as well. Business versus business, yeah, so two businesses. So you're both builders, yep, and you go. You know what? I'm going to employ people who are less skilled than me and I'm going to go up against that company who have got people that are higher skilled than that director. Like. Which team do you think is going to win?
Robby:It's a no-brainer, it's a no-brainer.
George:Yet you're there hiring people who are under you Trying to have a duty cost. Yeah, because you don're going to spend 50 and just get that entry-level person. You don't have to pay too much. They can just do some paperwork in the office, whereas I'm going to go out there and spend a fair bit more, I go no, no, I'm going to get this guy. He's a gun.
Overlap:Leadership skills. He's going to take over the whole project.
George:Don't need to talk to anyone and take it from there. It's chalk and cheese, it is. And you look at that from a perspective of just team versus team. Think of it as a sport. You've got one team that's full of youngsters. You've got one team that's experienced 30-year-olds that have gone through the trenches, had the losses and are now at a premiership window. You're like no, no, I'm going to get lots of youngsters, because that's what I'm about, and youngsters, because that's what I'm about, and you're going to try to win the premiership like that.
Robby:You're not going to win. You've already lost the game because you're thinking too small. But you know what we get to go either way, yeah, like you get the opportunity to play.
George:That's right Sick.
Robby:So good Gratitude.
George:That's where I would start. That's where I would start. If you're thinking what do I need to do? How do I play a bigger game?
Robby:Start there, dude I read this thing the other day, yesterday, and it's from a Jim Rohn page and it says do you know who Jim Rohn is? Yeah, no amount of regret If you don't know who Jim Rohn is, jim Rohn's Tony Robbins' mentor. So he taught Tony Robbins a lot of stuff. And he says no amount of regret changes the past, no amount of anxiety changes the future, but any amount of gratitude changes the present. That's cool. Yeah, it's sick dude. I'm thankful for that China trip. Yeah, do you know what I mean? I'm like it just allowed me to stop and just say two things One notice how good this is and then, backed onto the weekend, allowed me to stop and just say two things. One notice how good this is and then, backed onto the weekend, allowed me to just stop and realize, like this is freaking cool.
George:Were you inspired when you were over there by certain things? Did you get some more? Because you're in marketing, digital marketing, branding, all that sort of stuff from china? Yeah, did you? When you were looking at some stuff there, did it click over and go? You know what? Maybe we should do this. Maybe we should buy a thousand thousand units of toothpicks and sell them to restaurants.
Robby:No, no, but I you know gyms Mowing, yeah, like the brand gyms.
Robby:Yeah, they're marketers. Yeah, you know that right, no one works for them. They don't have, they don't own anything. It's all franchises, it's all franchises, all franchises. But but so they turned a service into a product. Scott scott was telling me this and he's like jim's turned a service into a product. I was like what do you mean? And then he's like they turned, they made a business. That is a service. So if you mow someone's lawns, you're offering a service. They turned it into a product like hey, buy our business that allows you to mow people's. Do you know what I mean? But they actually don't do anything. It's the Uber concept, isn't it, dude? They actually do not. They're marketers. They generate leads and then offload the leads. And they even generate so many leads that I spoke to someone the other day and they said you can sign up for this other brand that is actually the rest of Jim's leads. How funny, because they can't service all their leads and they're like Jim sells the leads To other people, they sell their extra leads to other people.
Robby:That's how much leads they're generating.
George:That's so cool.
Robby:How fucking cool is that? And I was like that's a very bright and broad way of thinking Because you could do that with anything. Bright and broad way of thinking Because you could do that with anything. I could now go and open a plumbing business and generate leads and then offload them to plumbers and be like yeah, go do this job. You do it at 80%. You do this at 80%. Do you want this job? Yeah, you do it for this much and control the cash flow and just run a website.
Robby:Play it big again, and then you can do it with every level. You can go do plumbing, then you can go do sparkies, and then you can you know what I mean and you can go do every different thing and you just got to have people. Like for those you might have to have people registered because they're licensed and then you can go do it with carpenters, do it with handymen, do it with and just play that game. That's an idea that came from that week I had away.
George:Yeah, that's right, and you were going to a place that actually sold products, except you thought about it completely differently.
Robby:Yeah, yeah and dude. Even products Like there is. Dude, you can go by cable Like there is. So you can't fathom the product. It doesn't make sense. We think humans think in their little box, like we think so small in the sense of compared to what we can't. It's very hard for us to create a thought that we haven't actually, that hasn't actually happened.
Robby:Yeah, something we can't, which is why most humans can't understand what AI is going to be. Yeah Right, we can't, which is why most humans can't understand what AI is going to be. Yeah Right, we can't think outside of what we know. And this is one of those things where, when you go and you start to realize like, oh, oh, that comes from there, oh, like, and you just start to see things that you weren't aware of, or costs that you can't fathom. How cheap.
George:Yeah, pretty cool Once you start opening up the realms and that, and that's what I mean you. You're in, as I said, digital marketing, but you've gone over there something that's not even related to your field and look at what that opportunity is created for you. It's not necessarily something in the digital space, but you go. No, no, even if it was an idea, just by going over there, and sometimes you need that level of inspiration, but too many of us are stuck in the trenches. You could have very easily stayed here and just pumped out more ads.
George:Yeah, yeah, very easily yeah, you could have easily stayed here and done the work and go.
Robby:You know what, too busy to go china I also understand the power of pulling yourself out of your own hole. Yeah, and just changing your environment yeah, even if it means you go sit on the beach like just change your scenery yeah change, change the scenery, change something. We were in Monville, weird town, is it how?
George:funny.
Robby:It's okay, it's like it's nothing.
Overlap:It's okay, it's just I don't know, have you ever been to Monville Country?
Robby:town-ish, yeah, like it's like one main strip kind of town, yeah, with like 20 shops, nothing. It was okay. It was raining the whole time, though. Oh, was it Pretty much most of the time, yeah, just being out of what you're normally used to seeing, habits are great. It's also great to stop them for a bit too, because otherwise it's like you can get real rat wheel stuff as well, like you get caught on the hamster wheel. You know what I mean, and I think it's cool to pull yourself away from everything that you're doing sometimes, maybe a day, maybe an hour, maybe it's 10 minutes in the morning, and just have something that sort of takes your focus away and really powerful and really powerful.
George:Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Well, that was a cool episode.
Robby:A very cool episode.
George:And listening to this. Guys, if you think you're going through the motions a little bit, do you reckon that has a? I think that has to play with this space, like when you're not grateful for the things that you've got in your life. You're just going through the motions. You wake up each day, get up, brush your teeth, go to work.
Overlap:Yeah.
George:Come home, eat, go to sleep and that becomes, before you know it, like, as you said, five months, four months down.
Robby:Yeah, four months down.
George:We are four months down of the whole year. It's insane. That's insane, dude. Like I feel like I should still be saying Happy New Year, you know what I mean. Like it's a whole quarter down and what have you done? What's been different in your?
Robby:life. Hey, this podcast is going to hit a year old soon. No, yeah, it's not that far away. No, when is it?
George:It's only about three, four months away yeah that's what I'm saying so we'll have 52 episodes in a few months well, this is, I think, 27 or something oh, so we're yeah, so we're still no. So if we're 27, we're doing them weekly yeah so where are we halfway?
Overlap:just like halfway. Yeah, okay, so maybe five months, five and a half months, yeah, okay, it's not that close dude it's gonna go like that.
George:It'll go. So 52 how good's that one going to be and celebrations I you know what. I don't know what I expected when we started this, but I didn't think it would be this consistent, as we've been doing it like I'll do one every week. Oh fuck, every week. What's wrong with you?
George:it's gonna be hectic yeah, it's been um, it's been cool yeah, the conversations we've had have been really cool. Some of the guests we've had, I actually thought we would have a lot more guests than we do. I thought it would be. I thought, shit, we're going to run out of shit to say. We're going to get people in, because otherwise, we're going to be.
Robby:There's so much stuff.
George:But there is so much and it just reinforces like hey, we know our shit. We like, hey, like we know our shit, we know what we're talking about, we know what we're doing, and it's also a lot of fun and even if we come in like the first half of this episode, we're talking about life.
Robby:China, yeah, china also, I think it's. It's great in allowing you to process your thoughts. Yeah, yeah, some people go to therapy.
George:We do this we do this, this is our therapy, and you know it's even better when you listen back to it yeah, because then you're like oh, I didn't know that or you're gonna write that down and I do. I actually listen back to people laughing me and say well, you listen to your own podcast. Of course I do. If I want an expert opinion, I've got to listen to it.
George:I've got to listen to it, listen to the pros no, but, as I said, it's helped me even reinforce a few things that we've spoken about weeks ago, months ago, and just going in, and I love this one, and josh said this and I, I always live by it. Whenever I'm feeling down, it's like don't worry if you're sad. Are you proud? Yeah, don't be happy, but yeah, to be proud, yeah, that's it. I'm proud of myself. And I look back and it doesn't matter if I'm unhappy or whatever it is, or the goal isn't to be happy. Am I proud of myself? And the answer is always yes, for anyway it has been.
Robby:I hope it is for you guys too. Here's the best part. Here's the best part. If you're not, you do something about that. That's it your own. You being proud of yourself is something that's completely in your control. Do you know what I?
Overlap:mean Yep.
Robby:So, even if you answer that and it's like no, I'm not Okay, well, what do you need to do? Yeah, and then you can answer that really quickly and then go do it.
George:It's not a difficult like if someone says I'm not proud of myself. So what do you need to be? What would you need to be proud of yourself? Oh, you know what?
Robby:I need to do this.
George:I need to tick this box. Whatever it is, whatever it might be, go do that, go do that. It's like, oh Clarity, to do that shit. Your permission is the only permission you need. People often say they also think about you know, there's so many barriers. There's actually less barriers in your life than you genuinely think.
Robby:Oh, dude, most barriers are here, like internal. You know what I mean. You create most of the hurdles in your life. Yeah, it's true, in your own mind so get your hurdles, guys. Yeah, break the barriers. Do the things that you need to do. You deserve it. You know what I mean. If you don't, then who appreciate what's um, what's around now, like right now, this second, look at something that you wouldn't normally look at and be like what a chair, what a car, what a car keep driving, you know these are sick headphones, like there's an Apple store in China.
Robby:I was just gonna man, I'm sorry you gotta, you gotta do it go to. China. Be grateful for China or a trip what'd you do in Apple store?
George:did you buy anything?
Robby:nah, everything's the same price, same shit same shit, I was like is this gonna be Jiva? Nope, same thing. Yeah, apple's gotta unlock very cool.
George:All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in today. Appreciate you listening in. As always, many of you are listening, but not necessarily subscribed. So top right hand corner is where you're going to find that subscribe button. You're going to hit it. You're then going to go show your mum. You're going to go mum, look what I just did. She's going to be so proud of you, or your dad or your partner or your dog. You're gonna go over there and say listen, I just subscribed to the boys million dollar days on spotify. And then you're gonna go turn around speaking of apple. You're gonna jump on apple podcast as well. You're gonna go do it there too. And then you're gonna get their phone and get that. And then you're also going to turn on notification so that every time a new episode comes up, ding, you're going to know about it.
George:Leave a review. Leave a review. Obviously five stars, but if it's one, leave one, leave one. Here's something I heard the other day which we're going to finish up with this. They go oh, I don't want to make this customer upset, because what if they leave a bad review on Google or whatever it is? I said fuck their review, let them.
George:Let them fuck their review? Let them. Let them. Do you think people slow down? Do you think the big guys are worried? Do you think Apple's worried about a one-star review? Of course not. As long as you act with integrity and you're doing the right thing, you're always going to get people that hate the $1 coffee at 7-Eleven. They're always going to complain about that shit. Go out and do the right thing while you don't be afraid, just because someone may or may not do something in the future. Again, coming down to that fear thing, right, I don't care If you want to leave a one-star review, because I said the word bitch, go for it. You know what I mean. Do what makes you happy.
George:I had someone call the office the other day Last week actually. They called the office and it was a lady and she was in hysterics in the suburb of Brighton and we've got a couple of construction sites there and she goes. So we had some traffic management out on the street. Again, we're going sideways, but this is all right. She's out on the street and one of the traffic managers that was there holding a lollipop sign, I believe I don't know told her to fuck off or said something along those lines. She calls up the office, she goes. I've been so upset all day.
Overlap:All day I've been so upset because this person told me to fuck off or whatever it might be, and like the guys in the office, fuck off.
George:Yeah, exactly like you should like you should get put through to me. Yeah, but it's not that I was going to be rude or anything. I was just like really, you're complaining about someone who, yes, they were working on my site, but I can't control what that guy does in the street. He he's a subcontractor to me. If he was wearing my clothing and it was my employee and representing my company and saying those things, okay, maybe I could have a word with them. But even then, maybe you nearly hit the bloke because you're on your phone texting and then he told you to fuck off.
George:I don't know what the scenario was. You need context. But I think the fact that she was upset all day, all day, and then had the audacity to call the office and complain about it, like we were going to now go call this company up, go to their door and knock on the director and say, hey, this is unacceptable. What were you hoping to achieve in that time? But also, if something so small like that has affected your life in such a negative way, you probably need to look at your life, because not everyone is in this world perception yeah, not everyone in this world is going to turn around and say, oh, thank you, have a great day.
George:You're going to get people that tell you to fuck off. Every now and then in your life. You're going to have that happen. You can't control what happens, um, but it all comes down to your perspective and maybe if she had practiced gratitude life is all perspective. Someone. Someone told me to fuck off today. Wow, I must be doing something right, you know? Yeah, life.
Robby:I actually, um, you just reminded me of this thing. I'd, I'd, um, hey, do you get my emails? Do I? Do you get my monday morning? Yes, sick, sick.
George:I was going to read postline of them the other day.
Robby:I subscribed One a couple of weeks ago said it talks about exactly what you're talking about. Life is all perspective. And it says on one side it actually says it's funny. I just went to China. It says a Chinese farmer is so happy that his corn is growing, or whatever, so he can feed his family, so happy that his corn is growing, or whatever, so he can feed his family. And then the other side, you've got a depressed person in the US because his fortune went from 35 mil to seven. Yeah, life is all perspective. Man, like you know what I mean. One's just glad because they can eat and the other one is spewing because he's only worth seven mil. Now. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's all about how you see things. Yes, and about how you see things.
George:Yes, and I want you guys to see things in a better way, because we live in a good country, got plenty of opportunities and life is good. What a country, what a life.
Robby:All right guys, See you later.
George:Bye.