Ever wondered how to keep the spark alive while juggling demanding careers and family life? This episode is a mixed bag of humor, revelations, and practical wisdom as we sit down with Nicole, who offers a fresh perspective on what it's like being married to a businessman. Nicole's honest and sometimes hilarious take on our 35-episode journey—including that controversial moment everyone’s been talking about—adds a new layer of depth, especially for our female listeners who are sure to find her insights relatable and entertaining.
We share the real struggles and triumphs of balancing work and family, from the chaotic early days of starting a business with young kids to understanding traditional family roles. Listen to us recount a quirky beach meeting that involved cigarettes and jet skis, and how it set the stage for our evolving relationship. Through our personal stories, we reveal the importance of communication, mutual support, and the courage to pursue personal fulfillment alongside career ambitions.
Considering a leap into the entrepreneurial world? We discuss potential business ventures, specifically in the lucrative makeup industry, and how adopting a positive mindset can be a game-changer. Hear about our decision to avoid a costly legal battle and instead focus on growth and new opportunities. The episode wraps up with a candid chat about the impact of COVID-19, the lessons in resilience, and the importance of creating memorable family moments. Don’t forget to subscribe and stay tuned for more engaging discussions and heartfelt stories.
Ever wondered how to keep the spark alive while juggling demanding careers and family life? This episode is a mixed bag of humor, revelations, and practical wisdom as we sit down with Nicole, who offers a fresh perspective on what it's like being married to a businessman. Nicole's honest and sometimes hilarious take on our 35-episode journey—including that controversial moment everyone’s been talking about—adds a new layer of depth, especially for our female listeners who are sure to find her insights relatable and entertaining.
We share the real struggles and triumphs of balancing work and family, from the chaotic early days of starting a business with young kids to understanding traditional family roles. Listen to us recount a quirky beach meeting that involved cigarettes and jet skis, and how it set the stage for our evolving relationship. Through our personal stories, we reveal the importance of communication, mutual support, and the courage to pursue personal fulfillment alongside career ambitions.
Considering a leap into the entrepreneurial world? We discuss potential business ventures, specifically in the lucrative makeup industry, and how adopting a positive mindset can be a game-changer. Hear about our decision to avoid a costly legal battle and instead focus on growth and new opportunities. The episode wraps up with a candid chat about the impact of COVID-19, the lessons in resilience, and the importance of creating memorable family moments. Don’t forget to subscribe and stay tuned for more engaging discussions and heartfelt stories.
I'm sure at times during the work days he probably struggled to get a hold of him as well. What would you say is something you'd want to share with people who may be in a similar situation, like how do you cope with?
Speaker 2:that, to be honest, in the beginning it was a bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1:Looking back, then there was no rule book, there was no someone telling you this is what you should do to make sure that you're successful and that you have a good life. We struggled.
Speaker 2:I struggled at communication. Yeah, we were just a bit more open and just.
Speaker 1:So true.
Speaker 2:You know, verbalised a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Nicole has been one of the key contributors to us being successful over the years, and some people forget that. They think, oh, the man's made all the money. The man bought the house, the man did this, the man forget that. They think, oh, the man's made all the money, the man bought the house, the man did this, the man did that. And it's not the case at all, not in my case anyway. It's a partnership. Yeah, 100%, it's a partnership. Howdy doody.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to another episode of Million Dollar Days, guys, and we have a special guest today. Indeed, oh, by the way, hope you're having a million dollar day. Yeah, very much so, can't forget that. Do you want to introduce our special guest, george? Yeah, this is the first guest I actually love. Who would have thought so sorry to everyone else that's been Take that All the other guests, that's it. So sorry to everyone else that's been on the podcast before Today.
Speaker 1:We are joined by my partner in crime, my wife Nicole, and our favorite Passus. Oh, geez, yeah, second favorite. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, so it was funny today because we actually had another guest booked in and they canceled last minute and I was just talking to Nicole on the on the phone I said, hey, by the way, do you want to come in and have a chat? And she's like no way, I couldn't think of anything worse. And then we started talking a little bit and I managed to convince her to come in and I think it was going to be cool just to have a chat from the perspective of, well, maybe, what it's like to be married to me. I suppose I'm going to use this to dig up all the dirt, All the dirt the goss Come out today. All the dirt that's it.
Speaker 2:Here I am, and thanks for having me on your show, you guys.
Speaker 1:Nicole's a long-time listener. She tells us every episode.
Speaker 2:I really should listen to at least one.
Speaker 1:At least one Don't Not. Episode one Was episode one there.
Speaker 2:Episode one. I've heard it's quite controversial.
Speaker 1:No, episode one was all right. That was. We were quite. It's funny. I'll listen back. If you listen back to it, I reckon we've improved so much more. Imagine you did the same thing 31 times. What's this? This will be episode 35. How good's that. We did the same thing 35 times in a row and you just did it in the exact same way Five weeks in a row. We've been doing this. Haven't missed a week. And has a current man knocked on your door yet? Not yet. Yeah, we're trying. We're trying, let's not. It's funny. Funny now that you mentioned that. So on, you saw this on facebook the other day.
Speaker 1:So we, one of the intros that we did to an episode was where I said I'm so busy that I'm thinking about employing more women so I can pay them less and have, you know, bad work conditions and all that sort of stuff. That was the intro. Obviously there was more context, more context. You haven't seen that clip. I'll get to say that it was so funny, but we did that on purpose so we could use that as the intro. So someone would be like, oh what? How could you say that? And no one responded to it. Like I was quite surprised until last week some lady I can't remember what her name was, otherwise I'd name and shame. Right now she's like like she, she tags me george passes. You're not serious, are you? Is this a joke? Yes, it's serious. I genuinely want to employ women so I can pay them less. I would have, I would have paid.
Speaker 1:To see your face reaction when you saw the comment. I was pumped. When I saw it, I was like I can't wait for george to see this. I was surprised you didn't respond before me. Well, I'm just gonna let's can't take that away from you. Well, I told her to listen to the episode. I wanted to get another download. So hopefully she listens and knows that I'm not a misogynist Working towards getting those numbers up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all it was about. That's it Getting another viewer. So well, before we get into it, if you haven't subscribed yet, doing it a bit early today, make sure you hit the top right-hand corner, press the subscribe button, tell all your friends, pass it on to your family and get onto it, and your mother and your mother. All right, cool, let's get into it. Kyle, give us the dirt. Jeez straight up. Give us the dirt. What would you like? What's he not telling us. I want all the dirt, I think I want to end. Thanks for joining us today, guys. It was great having you here and that's it Now you know what Our biggest aim with this is to provide value to the listeners, and we do have some female listeners.
Speaker 1:So let's start off with this. Julian is obviously a very busy man, right Like he. I struggled to get ahold of him. I'm sure at times during the work days he probably struggled to get ahold of him as well. What would you say is something you'd want to share with people who may be in a similar situation, like how do you cope with that? Because he's obviously super busy during the day? Runs several businesses, several successful businesses. How do you cope with that? Because he's obviously super busy during the day? Runs several businesses, several successful businesses. How do you deal with everything on your end?
Speaker 2:To be honest, in the beginning it was a bit of a challenge, but seeing how much he's grown over the years I've become a bit more understanding. So if I can't get a hold of him I'll just wait for him to call me back to me, whereas back in the day he did piss me off a lot. But seeing where he's come and how well he's done, I can be a little bit more understanding.
Speaker 1:You know. So she knows you're not fucking around. Yeah, she's like oh, he must be working, like this seems to be making progress. Do you know what I reckon when we? One of the most challenging things, looking back at our life, was when we just start, when we had kids. So I started my first construction well, first my construction business when we just had our first one, my, my oldest son, our oldest son, stevie all the sun, stevie. And I think that that was really difficult for me, but also for you, because I was so entwined in everything I was doing in the day-to-day operations of the business and then having a young family as well and in my world, like I'm so completely busy at everything I had to do. And then you come home, you're tired, you might be a bit drained, you got, you know. You're coming home looking forward to seeing the family. But then Nicole had her own problems with not having any sleep, looking after a crying baby all day, changing nappies, feeling like crap.
Speaker 2:And the timing probably couldn't be worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree Saying that prior to having kids, we did kind of make an agreement that I was to stay home with the kids and George had a great vision and I was supportive of him pursuing that. Although it was hard, it was hard and I just wish I had the hindsight.
Speaker 1:And for anyone that has young families now and I even do this to my mentees and I try and teach them that, like, if you do have a young family and you have got a business that you're running, you need to make sure that the time that you are home, your presence and you're also put your big boy pants on. Do you know what I mean? It's going to be hard. Support your partner at home, because it's not just you've had a hard day, she's had a hard day's. No, no, I'm going to come home. What can I do? I regret not like so.
Speaker 1:I never really did any night feeding or anything like that, and nicole was very selfless in the sense of george needs to work and get up early. I'm going to do that. You know what I mean. And then I took that role on. Well, yeah, I'm going to provide. So you know, nicole's going to do her thing, I'm going to do my thing and provide, and I think that can sometimes, whilst that might be good for the short term, I think in the long term you can't keep going like that. You have to come together and you have to have that talk and discussion of going. Look, you know, I'm so tired tonight, can you just do the feeding? But yeah, like, absolutely I'll do that. I'll go to work tired tomorrow. We haven we really struggled, I think communication.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were just a bit more open and, just, you know, verbalised a little bit more, what we wanted, what we needed. It could have been better for both of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, without a doubt, I couldn't agree more with that comment. It really does come down to communication and being open and transparent with your partner. We probably didn't do that as much in our younger years. We were late 20s when we had our. I was 30, actually, when we had our first kid. Nicole was late 20s. We say this now with a lot of experience. We've got a 10-year-old and a seven-year-old. We say this with a fair bit of experience now experience We've got a 10-year-old and a 7-year-old. We say this with a fair bit of experience now.
Speaker 1:But, looking back, then there was no rule book. There was no someone telling you this is what you should do to make sure that you're successful and that you have a good life. They say about work-life balance, which we don't agree with, but work-life blend per se. That's what I would give to young couples, young families now is making sure that you and your partner are on the exact same page. Exact same page, because it'll just help. It'll just help.
Speaker 1:You know, you don't know what your partner's going through every single day and they don't know what you're going through. And then, when you both come home and you've both had a tough day, and that's where arguments can tend to come into play. A lot of pressure on relationships, yeah, on both people, because they'll be punching on saying oh you know, you've been out having coffees I saw you had a coffee with Robbie today. I've been here doing this, I've been here doing this, and then you're like hang on Clean and diapers, yeah, and then cool, do you know, we just lost $100,000 in this and I have to deal with that. I wish I could stay home and watch TV all day, but you see where that disconnect comes in play, because obviously she's not just watching TV all day or playing tennis or doing whatever you're doing. Yeah, and we'll get on to that part of the life, we'll get there. So, yeah, does that answer your question?
Speaker 1:I've got to reword the question.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm taking over your podcast here, Robbie.
Speaker 1:Hey, I feel like I'm taking over your podcast. It's all yours. I'll be eliminated from this show. I'll just pack my stuff up. How did you do me?
Speaker 2:Oh, good one. You went through a mutual friend. Actually it was nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's shout him out. Let's shout him out, danielle, if you're listening. No doubt you're listening. Oh, you went surname as well. Shit, drop the A. No, that's all right. Yes, we met through a mutual friend. I had more of a family friend with us. I'd known her since young kids and then it was funny One day Nicole came to the.
Speaker 1:We're at a beach in Germana and Danielle was meeting, like you guys came and I was there with my friends. I remember it well, the first time. I remember the first thing that Nicole said to me. Actually she didn't say anything to me, she just nodded. So, danielle, exactly that. So for context and my kids won't listen to this for many years, or family members probably but she had a cigarette in her hand too. So literally she was lying on the beach tower, cigarette in her mouth, and Danielle's like oh hey, george, this is my friend, it was Christiana. So it was Christiana, and this is my other friend, nicole. Christiana, lovely girl, really nice, hi, george, nice to meet you. I'm like, oh hey, she goes to Nicole the psychologist. Oh hi, nicole and George. She just looks at me, gives me a nod and then another puff of the cigarette and continued working on her tan.
Speaker 1:So, oh, look, it probably didn't help that I rocked up on a jet ski as well. I was like, hey, babe, red flag for me. Hey, babe, babes, do you want to come on a ride? Yeah, so that was probably Join me on my jet ski. Join me on my jet ski. Yeah, mid-20s, full of testosterone, what's cracking Crackers At your peak, the absolute peak. Not much has changed now. We're still, you know, still got a jet ski, still got a jet ski, still full of testosterone, still full of testosterone.
Speaker 2:The jet ski's mine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just borrow it. Sometimes I got yelled at what was it? Ngambi Lakes yelled at me. What was it? Nagambi Lakes? Robbie took the ski for a drive and Nicole was like what are you doing on my jet ski? I'm in trouble. Yeah, it's good fun. At least it inspired you. It did, it did. It made me want to get one. Good, you want to tow it on the Tesla or the Ranger? I saw it. You know the Tesla Cybertrucks can tow five tons. I don't Do. They even sell them here. Yeah, oh they do. You've got to put an order in. Oh, cool, maybe we get that as a next ute.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're.
Speaker 1:No, they're expensive, Are they? Yeah, I reckon. Can I just say You've seen the Tesla truck, haven't you? Yeah, I don't know if it'd be a great look. I reckon he would have been in a room and just gone. Let's design the ugliest car on the face of the planet and let's laugh at everyone when they buy it and it's the highest selling ute in the world Because it's not a good looking car. I don't care what anyone says. That's not a good looking car. It looks different. It's just like. It looks like an 80s futuristic vehicle, like what they would dream up in the 80s as the future. Yeah, that's what it is. It's like sharp edges. Yeah, yeah, have you seen it?
Speaker 2:I have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Super weird, Super All right, cool. So what else? Communication Heated up obviously when you first met. Yeah, yeah, it took a few guys. It probably wasn't until the third time that we met that Nicole actually spoke to me. Even the second time it was very similar.
Speaker 2:It was until he sold his jet ski?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did, I sold it, that's right. And then I was like I sent you a message, you had a few jet skis, huh, over the years.
Speaker 2:Yeah a couple. Let's get the story straight.
Speaker 1:I sent you a message saying call me when you sell your jet ski. Very quickly, george is going to tell us this. I knew what I had to do and I went and did it. I knew what I wanted. It's called action, guys. Take note, that's it. So, yeah, and it's been an amazing journey the whole way through. And here we are today, but going on from what we were speaking about. So we had that conversation early days that, okay, nicole was going to be a stay-at-home mom and then I was going to be the traditional roles stay-at-home mom provider and I think that was a huge. I think that's a huge advantage If you're in a position where one person can stay home, like the wife can stay home and the husband can work and you can financially afford that. I think it's massive because your wife or your partner gets to raise the children, not the childcare, the grandparents. They're the biggest influence on them.
Speaker 2:When you're saying that there's a lot of pressure on the husband.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's both. There's one on bro. Yeah, but this is where I'm saying, if you're not trained, like we had the conversation the other day, but looking back, those early years were great, but I think, as they get a little bit older.
Speaker 2:I think it's important that the mother also focuses on her life.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Her career. Yeah, we'll get into that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll get into that for sure. Yeah, we'll get into that Because I think that served us well at the beginning. It did, and I still don't regret it. And even to now, if Nicole and I've said this before, I think in previous episodes if you said to me look, I'm done, I don't want to work for the rest of my life, I'm cool, I'll just play tennis every day, I'll just do what I'm doing, I'm having fun, I enjoy this.
Speaker 1:I actually enjoy this lifestyle. I get fulfillment from it, because that's important. I get fulfillment just from picking up the kids at three, taking them to school, going for coffees with friends, playing tennis, and to a lot of people that sounds like the dream life. But if you had fulfillment for that and you said that to me, I'd be like totally fine. And Nicole's friends used to bag oh, look at you, you got the best life. You know good life being, you know doing what you want. When you want all that sort of stuff, I'm like, yeah, fucking oath, it is Absolutely good life. We worked hard for this life. That's why she can live that. And this is another misconception too. So I make the money in the relationship. Yeah, I couldn't do what I do if nicole didn't do what she did.
Speaker 1:So, out of consequence, the only reason we make good money is because is because nicole is a key contributor to that. It's all me, really. Yeah, but if I had to, I think it's all the goal. Yeah, I had to take the kids to school every single morning, that's two hours of my day gone. If I had to pick them up every single morning, that's four. Every single afternoon, that's four hours of my day gone. If I had to come home and cook dinner and have that ready before everyone was at, it's not feasible for me to do all that and shout out to all the single parents out there working and looking after kids. But if I had to do all of that, then there was no way I could have invested the time, effort, resources into building the companies that I have over the years.
Speaker 1:So, as a direct result and consequence, nicole has been one of the key contributors to us being successful over the years and some people forget that. They think, oh, the man's made all the money, the man bought the house, the man did this, the man did that, and it's not the case at all, not in my case anyway. It's a partnership. Yeah, a hundred percent. It's a partnership and touching on what you said a little bit after that was it's good to have that purpose after as well. So once your kids say, get to a point where they're potentially both at school or don't no longer need you 24 seven to look after them, then there's so much tennis you can play, there's so much copies you can have.
Speaker 2:It does get a little bit boring at times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then that's. I suppose that's the biggest challenge for you now, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It is, and I have been so grateful over the years for being in a position where I can do that. But I think you then reach a point in your life where your kids are a little bit older. But you need to then shift that focus to yourself and focus on your purpose and what you want and what makes you happy and just being that little bit selfish, I guess. Yeah. And just you know you've got to let go of the kids a little bit more. They don't need you as much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the thing. You've been so selfless, and I think that's what we do as adults, and parents particularly. We give everything to our kids. I think that's a mistake. It is. It is a mistake, yeah, without a doubt, and you don't have kids too. I like this because it's like I can almost give you the advice before you even get into it. But yeah, I'm taking it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:There's a fine line. It is You're giving everything to it, and whilst that's a selfless and beautiful thing yeah, you want your kids to prosper but if your relationship suffers as a result of that, or if your own personal and mental health suffers because you're giving everything else to everyone, then really the kids aren't going to benefit from that.
Speaker 1:Because imagine you come home to a parent arguing every single night but oh, I'm just giving everything to the kids. That's one thing. Another thing is, if you don't continue to develop as a person, your kids will surpass you when they're 15. And then it's like who do they turn to? Then you know what I mean. And then they have no one that I can depend on. And I say that because I had I reckon I have still have the most selfless mother in the world Like she.
Speaker 1:If I called my mom now and said hey, there's a shirt on my floor, we don't live together, I live on my own. If I said there's a shirt on my floor in my room, you need to drive. It'll be at least a 40 minute drive from where she lives. You need to drive, pick it up, take it home, wash it dry. I need it tonight. She would go do it, yeah now. Yeah, like she would do anything, not just for me, for any of her kids, um, but I also saw her go through a point where, when we all grew up, she lost her identity because she had nothing. She was like she lived for her kids and then all of a sudden, her kids don't matter anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then she just didn't know what to do with herself.
Speaker 2:And that's the struggle I'm encountering at the moment.
Speaker 1:to be honest, yeah, but the good thing is you're still very young and our kids are still very young, and I think for you it's like well, so give a bit of context. What did you do? Tell everyone what you did before we had kids, when you were working had kids when you were working.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was in real estate for several years Didn't love it, I would say which made it easy, I guess, for me to be a stay-at-home mom and give George that opportunity to pursue his dreams.
Speaker 1:But I would say you hated it, I did I hated it.
Speaker 2:I suppose I've never really found my thing yeah.
Speaker 1:See, I find it's just because you haven't done enough, that's all it is yeah, yeah. That's all it is. I think it's just you've got to try things out and for yourself. I kind of get your dilemma too, because I think you would be quite entrepreneurial in the sense that you would do really well if you had your own business. Yes.
Speaker 2:But it's a matter of finding what it is. Who knows, I could even start my own podcast after this yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:There you go. We're going to get a billion dollar days. Oh, that's better. We'll lease you the studio. Who would need a sponsor? Yeah, legacy Media yeah, obviously, but yeah. So I've always seen you as having that entrepreneurial mindset, because even with other things, we never speak business at home other than me telling you what's going on like high level stuff. I'll never say what do you do here, what do we should? You know, should I buy a excavator, should I buy a new huge like? We don't have that level of conversation. But you know, sometimes it could be like enough, fuck that client, they shouldn't do this, blah, blah, blah blah. So we can have still a level of conversation. So I've seen it in you that you've got that drive and I think once you, as you said, try something and you find and you go hey, you know what I could do this, it could be anything.
Speaker 2:It could be a cafe owner.
Speaker 1:It could be selling cushions, like whatever yeah it could be an e-commerce store like a Shopify store. That's right. That's right, and once you have that, I reckon you would really do well and thrive it. I think for yourself, it's just a matter of really just got to try stuff, isn't it? Do you know?
Speaker 2:what I think you should do Makeup, makeup.
Speaker 1:I would dive into the makeup industry. Remember, we said that company to buy. Yeah, I would dive straight into it. Yeah, why do you say that? Why, because I spend way too much time watching chicks put on makeup on Instagram yeah, way too much time. And there is so many different, so many different like it's actually fascinating how much. I had no idea how in depth it was. Like you see a girl putting on makeup and you look, and then you and then she's done, but when you actually watch how many Transformation Dude, like from start to finish, yeah, but also like how many layers, how many like it is a big billion and billion and billion.
Speaker 2:There's a huge competition out there though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, but I also think that it is not going away. It is only becoming more and more and more and more problematic, probably especially with how social media is Dude. How can Kylie Jenner go and launch a brand and become a billionaire within a year? You know what I mean? Yeah, but she had a massive brand, I know. But if you can have the biggest brand in the world, if you launch something, there isn't a demand for it's not going to happen. Very few people have launched something and become a billionaire like that. Yeah, conor McGregor did it with alcohol. Yeah, the Rock did it with alcohol.
Speaker 1:All these people had a massive profile though. Yeah, but that is just reaching your audience. Yeah, the thing has to be wanted. It shouldn't become a billionaire because not that many people are keen on hot dogs, do you know what I mean? But you're tapping into a market where there's this demand and I just think there's a huge, huge, huge demand in it. But I think it is ridiculous. A big advantage, why does Rihanna do it? Because she's empty. I don't even know what she does. She's got her makeup, that's shit man that's shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know too much about this shit. You know my clutch, but I like. Sorry, I'm just finding out New shit about you. Dude, didn't know you were into makeup Billions. You're wearing makeup now, aren't you?
Speaker 2:I wear makeup every day.
Speaker 1:Took me three hours here already Watching Instagram tutorials Sick. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would 100% get into it, Without a doubt. I think it is A huge market and, yes, You're right, there is a lot of competition. But I think there is so much more demand that you can go in and still compete and you don't have to compete with Kylie Jenner straight up. No, but compared with the we were looking a little while ago to buying a skincare product, a skincare company. We're looking and look it still might come to fruition we have. It's not completely shut, but the idea was again. The great thing is now I've got resources to help, like in your ventures do you?
Speaker 1:know what I mean. If you said to me, tomorrow I want to start a clothing brand just doing t-shirts, I'm like, yeah, cool, let's do it here's. Here's a 50 grand loan, go, do what you need to do, yeah, and then the business can pay me back, hopefully one day. Well, yeah, yeah. And then there's also resources in the sense of cool, do this site, do this, get the videos done here, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean. We've got all the connections. Yeah, like you just redid all my websites, yeah, all of them, and they're sick. Like it's just gone to that next level and it's so true, our years in business. Now, like I'm a what do you do? You meet someone for the first time, say, hey, george, what do you like? The first thing is people say they identify with their profession. I am a builder, yeah, I am a marketer, I am a florist. But it's like what do you? I don't tell you that, yeah, I used to, I don't anymore. It's like what do you do Business? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I do business. So, or what do you doing with this? I just do sick shit. Yeah, just Just do sick stuff all the time. Just so I've tried to change that a little bit as well, because people identify with their profession but they are not their profession. I don't know where I was going with that, but just a little pet we, but we're trying to convince the cult to open a business. Yeah Well, you know, sometimes the funny thing is it's all all you need sometimes is that spark. You know, it's just that that one idea and it just goes. Okay, maybe tonight I'm going to start researching whatever materials from a certain country that I can import and do this and do this.
Speaker 1:And you went to Canton fair the other the other day in China, like this. And you went to canton fair the other the other day in china, like there's something somewhere sick, we should go. You get like the ideas. You get it's a place not made up, yeah, um, it's yeah. You went there and you're like, looking at all these different things, you could buy literally anything. You can buy these little knobs for this podcast arm. Do you know like you can buy anything there and that might just spark you going? Okay, maybe I can import these things, these things, maybe I can do that, maybe I can do this. You know what else is. I think it's a really good business where this is, and this is probably less, not less not as advantageous to be a chick. I think it's still an advantage, but I don't think it's as much as makeup would be. Skin like aesthetics, botox fillers yeah, yeah, skincare. You know chemical peels and all that. Yeah, dude, you know how much their margins are, how much fucking money they make. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Nicole knows someone that does it and yeah, she's in a prominent suburb and just killing it. Multi.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a great business. And the thing I don't know, mate, that's a doctor, our friend, we both know. And I told him. I said, dude, he's a GP. I said, mate, what the fuck are you doing? Specialize, yeah, niche. I said, get into that space, yeah, massive space.
Speaker 1:But I find, see, this is funny, where some people aren't entrepreneurial like that, he's like no, no, I'm, it's hard, the insurance is too high, cares, pay it. Look, you'll make 10 times more. But he had that mindset. He's got that comfort of no, I'm just gonna be a gp, like, I'll make my good, 200, 300 a year. Yeah, sit here, make good money. Why am I gonna go out? Because, dude, you could make 10 times that in a year. And he's he's good looking bloke too. So the people would probably flock to him as a result of knowing he's in that space. I said to him you've got to go out and do other stuff. It's funny how people have those block years. Huh, it is because that's what I say. I don't think you have that blockage, you're not risk adverse, I think your family is.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is very. See that influences too, I reckon. Do you think so? Do you think your family if your parents or mum or dad, or brother, sister, they're the type that never took any risk, do you reckon that would have an influence on you to go out and take risks and start a business? Yeah, so with that sort of stuff, you'll either do what they do or you'll go the opposite way. And I think you've gone the opposite way. Yeah, without a doubt, because I look at the rest of your family, they're very much like nah, this is our lane, this is what we're going to do, like work, get a good job, or go to school, work, get a good job, buy a house, die or retire, die, you know, and then that's, that's it. Like, don't do anything else, stay in your lane, stay here where it's safe with me. Yeah, whereas you haven't ever been like that. I don't think. I think you've been the black sheep in the family. Yeah, there's always one in the family. No one in my family.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure half my family don't know what I do. I asked my mum the other day. I was like do you know what I do? She's like it's ads. Yeah, you're right, good Making sure. Someone's got to like them. Yeah, someone's got to like them. Yeah, someone's got to like all the posts Shout out to my mom Likes every single one of the posts.
Speaker 2:How cute.
Speaker 1:That's so good, yeah, so make a business. That's what we're doing, that's what we're getting into. So good, space, it's funny. So you know, you have those different stages you have like this Don't get me wrong, guys there's a lot of really good moments everywhere there too.
Speaker 1:But now the conversation for us has changed again, because me and you talk a lot about the whole concept of this podcast being called Million Dollar Days, about our journey to making a significant amount of money, what that looks like, and I want to tell a story. Actually, yeah, I'm going to tell a story which I've told you a little bit of, and you too, but not our viewers, so you get to tune in for the first time. So I just sold I've mentioned this a few times on the podcast, but I sold the car the other day and it was empty, no petrol, zero, like it had this much left before I handed it over to him and I went and filled it up with petrol and I gave him a full tank of petrol when he left that day and picked up the car. He's taking the car. He's taking the car. Was he pumped, pumped, Loved it? What Did you tell him?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I told him I'm not going to let him get away with not knowing Absolutely. I told him what was his reaction he's like oh, thank you. Yeah, that I said, mate, my pleasure, my pleasure. So, thinking about your life in abundance, not in scarcity. If you want more happiness in your life, give more happiness. If you want more wealth in your life, give more wealth. If you want more love in your life, give more love.
Speaker 1:And we were having this conversation the other day and I was like I'm going to do this, not because of like, if I'm being scarce and thinking I'm not going to fill that up, it's $150. It's $150. Why am I going to give this to a stranger? He just bought my car and he's negotiated me down to a price that isn't the price I was trying to sell it for, and now I'm going to give him a full tank of petrol. So no, no, I'm going to do that, I'm going to give him that.
Speaker 1:And having that whole shift of mindset in not just that petrol thing, but in everything right we lost, I've got to be careful how I say this now. So I at some stage I've sued someone for money that they owed me, and it was funny, we were at mediation not long ago and the whole premise behind it was I either sue, we either make a deal on that day and we come to an agreed figure that someone pays someone, or we both walk away. And then the consequence of going the whole way would have been over $100,000 for both parties to just see it through to court. Just in fees, just in legal fees yeah, legal costs. It would have been at least that. And then you're putting it in the hands of a judge. So, no matter how strong your case is, you don't know what side of the bed the judge woke up in the morning and who he's going to side with on the day. So there was an element of risk there. No matter how strong your case is and mine was the stronger of the two from what I saw but I had this.
Speaker 1:I was speaking with my barrister at the time and I said you know what, over the course of the next four or five months that this case is going to go on, I'm going to have to spend 120 grand, I'm going to have to invest a lot of time giving you documents, going over all these other things, and I'm going to have to focus on something that's really a negative, bad debt. Yeah, it's an emotional investment, that's right, that's right, that's right. And plus, you know there's consequences if you lose as well. So I'm looking at that and I was like you know what, over the next four months, not only am I going to make that money, but I'm also going to triple it, because I'm going to focus on things that I can actually bring in the good projects, the good clients, the good deals. Imagine I spend 120 grand on ads in the next four months. How different that's going to be to my life, as opposed to spending 120 on a solicitor. I was speaking to my barrister about that and she's like you are one of the most practical people I've ever come across. Actually, she goes I do a lot of these cases and not many people have that mindset to you. Anyway, long story short, we ended up coming to an agreed movement where we just both walk away bearing our costs. That's it. So not my desired result, but in the grand scheme of things, I actually felt quite good about it.
Speaker 1:And do you know what happened? So this went on all all day. I was there from 9 am to 5 pm. The second I walked out of that building in the city. Do you know what happened? I had a phone call from a client who I priced a job for three months ago. A missed call because he called me whilst I was in there, looked at my phone oh, that's interesting. Gave him a call back. I said good day, mate, how are you going? He's like oh George, thanks for calling me back. He goes look, I know I've been taking a while. I've been sitting on it. I've really wanted to make this thing work and, great news, we've got the money. We want to go ahead, we want you to build it and this is a significant project. This will be one of my highest grossing projects and me just having that whole abundance mindset, I believe, was the reason that call came through. It's like you almost manifested it and it was such a fist pump moment for me. You know what I can't believe? Everything I've been practicing and talking about is coming to fruition and that was really amazing when I saw that happen. But then I take it a step further. That's just in the money aspect. When I saw that happen. But then I take it a step further. That's just in the money aspect.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of conversations lately about doing things now that in your life that are going to be amazing and going, whether it's holidays, whether it's experiences, whether it's doing things with the kids, the way we act with the kids when we're home, all these sorts of things so it can translate into a bigger, better, greater version of ourselves and I see that that's our next evolution in our life and our relationship is. We're at that point now where I think we're quite mature in the sense of like we're still. When I say mature, I think we've done the reps, as we like to say. We've done the reps in our relationship and we've gone through really good times. We've gone through really hard times, like I've openly said, like COVID was the worst time in my life from a business point of view, but then it was also really bad for us in relationship point of view, not to the sense that we were doing anything intentionally detrimental, like I wasn't coming home going.
Speaker 1:I'm going to show this bitch up. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. It wasn't coming home going. I'm going to show this bitch up. You know what I mean. You know it wasn't anything like that and it wasn't like I'm going to walk in the door and she's like when he's home he's fucked like I'm going to throw the pot at him. You know what I mean? It was never any. That was a weapon of choice. Someone's got to cook. Yeah, it's not fucking me, is it? What did you say't know? Do I look like I belong in a kitchen? I'd never said that. I would never say that. Let the record state, of course not. I never said that, please please.
Speaker 1:Karen Affair, you have our number. Yeah, so yeah, and it was never intentional that we were going to do that. But the way I get the situation, I know. I know I get what you're saying. Oh, the situation was extreme, but why the fuck wasn't I better? Why not? Why did I have to let that situation make me a worse person, a shittier husband, a shittier father, a shitty business owner?
Speaker 1:You got to look at it like this Okay, progression happens over a time span Like if you were the same person you are today, then that would mean that you haven't grown from then till now. Yeah, as opposed to the other way around. Do you know what I mean? But you're always gonna. You should look back, you know. I think I mentioned some of the last thing. You'd always look back and say, like I thought I knew shit back then and that guy was an idiot. Yeah, but at the point you did know stuff. But you've just grown, continued to grow over time, and COVID was tough for everyone except me, except you.
Speaker 1:You loved it, dude. Honestly, I had, if anyone. I lived with two mates. I lived with my cousin and my friend and we all had time off work and we all had a PlayStation. Were you working at a dealership, then Working at real estate? We all had a PlayStation.
Speaker 1:We all went and bought Call of Duty from Harvey Norman in Maribyrnong and every single night we would get on and play Warzone and everyone would sit in their rooms with the headsets on and we'd jump on Warzone's trios and we would just play for eight hours every single night, dude, and you paid for it and I was getting paid. It was sick. It was so good for me. Man, our brother-in-law, so Nicole's sister's husband similar scenario, except he just sat at home and drank and smoked and smoked cigars, not weed or anything, but he just sat at home. He goes.
Speaker 1:That was a great time for me because I was getting paid, he goes. I actually made more money because he used to, like they would often go out, have lots of drinks yeah, there's no cost, he goes. I was actually saving money and I was getting paid and I wasn't working and he had his own business too, but he was just heavily subsidized by the government, whereas for us we copped the short end of the straw, like our business went from millions to almost zero, and so I had that pressure to deal with. Then I came home and indirectly took it out on the family. And I don't say I did it purposefully, but I'd come home and I'd just be so drained, so tired, so not there emotionally, physically I'd be on the couch, be watching TV, the kids would be playing and instead of me playing with them I was like guys, be quiet. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Like a bit of a drainer yeah, but then in the same token. But then that's where you build that resentment too, because Nicole would be resentful to me going look at this dickhead, yeah, I've been stuck, yeah, yeah, I've been stuck in these walls and he got to go to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah he got to leave and go to work and he comes home Homeschooling Shit. We didn't even think I'd come home. I look at this, look at this fucking stay home all day I homeschooling. I wish I could have that. I just got reamed for $80,000 today. What did you do? Do you know what I mean? Or whatever it might be?
Speaker 1:But there was that resentment both ways, and there's the lack of communication. There's that lack of connection. There's that lack of so many things that weren't going right that accumulated and then put significant pressure on the relationship. I was in the worst shape of my life then as well. I wasn't looking after myself, I was eating shit. I was just an unhealthy person mind, spirit, body, in all aspects of my life. But you're completely right. If I was still that person today, you're a piece of shit, I know.
Speaker 1:Look, guys, make no mistake, another COVID is coming. It's going to come. It might not be in the form of a global pandemic, but it will be another GFC of some sort. Now, I'm not saying it's coming next year, it'll probably be in 10 years' time, 2030. Lock it in. You heard it here first. I've been told to play Call of Duty then. Yeah, might be. Well, you won't be getting paid by the government at that stage you'll be owning your business could be universal, basically.
Speaker 1:But the point I'm making is I I realized that I wasn't a the best version of myself during that time and then that's partly the reason why I joined um groups, that, and people where I could become better, and that's where we met and that's how we became friends. I was a business course that we were doing and that led on to one thing, led on to another, and then I was just surrounding myself by good people, which, in turn, turned me into a good person as well, or just helped me see things where I was lacking in my life, and then that was a really powerful thing for me. And then I was able to come home and be that better version of myself, which then came on to the kids, which then came on to Nicole, and now we're both growing in that direction. But yeah, what I was saying is another GFC will happen again. The difference will be next time it happens is I'm not going to be reactive, I'm going to be proactive.
Speaker 1:I'm like cool, nicole, come here. This is what we have to do now. Cool, we're locked in our house for the next six weeks. This is what we're going to do Every week. We're going to do this Every day, every night. Every this, every this I'm going to tell you every second.
Speaker 1:If you're upset about something, let's talk about it. These are my jobs, these are my clients. Cool, these clients, I'm going to tell them. We're stopping the jobs unless you pay a thousand bucks a day in damages, whatever it is, because we can't continue. Employees you, you, you, you're fired. Sorry, hope to get you back when things are better. Yeah, honestly, I promise you. I promise you, I will fire every fucking person at this company, not because I hate you, because if the ship goes down, everyone's Everyone sinks. And that's what nearly happened, because I did everything possible to look after everything and everyone at my detriment the business, my mental and physical health and spiritual health. That's just. You got to look at that. That's the price you paid for the lesson it was. It was the price I paid. Now, I will never be willing to pay that price again, never. Well, you'd be silly to pay the same thing for the same thing. Yeah, exactly, and I look at people such as I'll use Grant Cardone.
Speaker 1:We mentioned him a little bit in this podcast GC. Next time you're in Melbourne see you soon Get your special guest on the podcast. But in 2008, he was in a very similar position. He was being sued by someone for millions of dollars. He nearly lost his whole business and he goes everything. I look back at that time in my life he goes. I wasn't prepared for it.
Speaker 1:So then when the next thing happened, which was COVID after GFC, he goes. He was completely prepared. He went in and fired 200 people in his business. He went and got rid of whole sections of his organization. He grabbed his family. He bought off penthouse on the top floor of a building he goes. We live there on beach views, made sure I was away from everything and everyone Didn't do this, didn't do this, didn't do this. Then he went and bought. He became a billionaire during COVID because he bought so much property, because everyone was selling. He's like cool, I'll take that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he understood the game. He understood the game and I'd like to feel that I understand the game now. Yeah, I'm just talking about business, I'm talking from business and life. I understand it a lot better. I feel like I have a lot more clarity in that space, and so you should, and hopefully in five years time you look back at now and say, man, I wish I knew what I knew now then, because that means you keep growing right. That thing Jimmy Carr says I think I shared it last time is you shouldn't feel imposter syndrome every 18 months. That means you're growing. You should feel like you don't belong because now that means you've moved forward. Otherwise, if you get comfortable with where you are, it just means you're doing the same shit. You've moved forward. Otherwise, if you get comfortable with where you are, it just means you're doing the same shit. Yeah, absolutely. What would you want for the kids when they grow up from a sense of life and career?
Speaker 2:Life and career from the kids. All I care about is their happiness. I think and that's on us, I think, as role models, we've got to show them happiness, and what, yeah, what happiness is right.
Speaker 1:Well, they see, they learn.
Speaker 2:I think society has taught us to go to school, go to uni, get a job, make money.
Speaker 1:For me, you, just you need to be happy in whatever you're doing yeah, it sounds like that's a core value of yours absolutely being happy, but we've mentioned this a few times as well, like the kids will see one more thing I was just saying.
Speaker 2:There's so many doctors that we know, so many lawyers, so many people in these professions who are making okay money, but they're just so unhappy within themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure, and that's again precious for me. Probably they're one of someone I know is like that. It's like he said to me he goes. I wish I was a blue collar worker, you know, but I only ever knew being a doctor. Like the only option for me was to be a doctor. You know my parents weren't going to it's either you're a doctor or you're a failure. Like which one do you want to be? And that's all it ever was for him. He goes. I've never had any other option. I never known anything else path.
Speaker 1:Now, yeah, you're right, is he in that? Because he loves it? That's because he enjoys helping? Yeah, but it's also, if you think about it from a further back generation, especially being stereotypical, I don't know what's it like for you, iggy, with in mongolia, is there that pressure to be doctors, like really high accountants, lawyers? Do you have that sort of pressure in mongolia or anything like that from a society point of view, because a lot of asians, like chinese people, japanese people, have that sort of no, no, you're a doctor or you're a failure. Do you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean doctor, lawyer, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see, and kids will watch what. You do not listen to what you say. So we can't say, hey, be happy, I'm happy, can't you see that? Not listen to what you say, so we can't say, hey, be happy, I'm happy. Can't you see that? I'm fucking happy. You need to be happy. Yeah, come here all the time, that's right. But this is where we were saying, like, this is where you can't be selfless there. That's you being selfless going. You guys need to be happy. Don't listen to us if we're arguing. Look at what, look what I do for you. That's all we do for you to make sure you got this stuff. You know you're a better, and then you're like they're noticing what you're doing. That's right, whereas if you're genuinely happy at home, they see that they go fuck. Why wouldn't I listen to my parents? They know what's going on, they know what's up, you know, yeah, you know. One thing I would wish for my children as is I don't want them to have an easy life. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I don't want them to have an easy life. I want there to be difficulties in their life because I want them to build that resilience to overcome hard things. I think the biggest mistake parents make with that part is because everyone, like you, will have difficulties. It's about not solving the problem for them. Yeah, like, okay, it's hard. Yeah, yeah, that's hard. You have to give them the tools to solve their own issues. Yeah, I mean like our kids, and it happens with.
Speaker 1:Every happened with me, probably happened with you, probably I know it's happened with you. Like you go into school, you might get bullied, your friends might not like you, your teacher doesn't like you, you suck at sport or you're no good at maths, and then that kid feels really down and out about it and as a parent, you want to come in. I'll come here, sweetie, let me hug you. I'll keep you safe. Don't worry about the mean old teacher or that silly friend. Whereas I hear so, nicole puts the kids to bed most nights and I hear some of the conversations that she's having with them and it's like you know, whatever it is, sarah said this about my hair and I don't want to go to school tomorrow, and she's like well, we've said this in our trainings and also in podcasts. I don't like your blue hair, trying to give them those tools that you need to sort this out on your own. Tell Sarah or Jessica or whoever it is, or Peter, tell him like I don't care that you don't like that. And especially in this world of social media, like we were having the conversation, our son's getting to that age where he's like he wants a phone and I'm really against it at the moment and I think you were up until you were okay with that up until lately but they don't have the tools yet to be able to handle the emotional maturity. Yeah, that's exactly right To handle.
Speaker 1:Kids blocking them on a group chat or someone texting you after school saying you know you're ugly. I don't think they've got that in them yet. We never had that when we were younger and you're obviously the same too. We never had. You know you're ugly. I don't think they've got that in them yet. We never had that when we were younger and you're obviously the same too. We never had, excuse me, that level of connection outside of school. Yeah. So I think it can be a lot more brutal now and you need to have that resilience in you as a kid and that self.
Speaker 1:What's the word I'm looking for? I think there is, because so you think about it from the kids aspect right, have you been in the position where everyone's doing something and you can't do it? Yeah, not in the sense of you, you can't. It's like your parents won't, yeah, yeah, like you don't, really, like I can't go to that party, or yeah, I can't do that thing. And then that is like, uh, you feel like you're missing out as a kid as well, without a doubt. Without a doubt, but even older, like when we were dating, nicole's parents didn't want us to go overseas together. When we were dating, mind you, we were mid-20s, we were engaged. We couldn't even no, no, we weren't engaged, we weren't engaged. It was pretty extreme. Yeah, it was pretty extreme. Yeah, but look again, traditional Greek parents. No, you'd move out when you get married. You know what I mean. As long as you're under my roof, yeah, literally yes.
Speaker 1:Exactly and it's like, yeah, that's right. So you go to your kids now and you say, oi, my house, my rules, do this, do this. You want to do it? I'll piss off and I'll never speak to you, ever again. How's that good? Yeah, dude, I get there should be a level of Different generations, different generations. I would try to do it more from a respect thing. Not you have to do this, you can do whatever you want. You're a grown-ass man. Do what you want. Life has gotten a lot better in the last 80 years. Yeah, yeah, your parents, 80 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like your parents, parents grew up in a wartime. Yeah, that's right. Do you know what I mean? That's right. And how? What did they get fed? Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, well, don't leave the house, cause it's you might get killed. Yeah, yeah, it's all like, don't go out in the world. But you're not protecting them. No, you're damaging them. And we see this. Don't tell me you should put me off later, but like, we see this with other kids. Do you?
Speaker 1:know what I mean. We look at our kids and how we raise them and what we want to do with them. But you see it with other kids, how the parents are, and you're like, like if you're acting like that with a kid now, Like the kid's got full-blown anxiety.
Speaker 2:Then you see the parents and they've got the anxiety.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not the child. The child's fine, but it's the parent going oh no, no, no, don't do that, stay here, stay here, no, no, she's got anxiety. She can't do that, she's just bowling. Just let her push the ball down the thing. It's fine. But then the kid hears that and thinks oh, I must have anxiety. I must have anxiety, I do. But it's amazing how quick they pick this stuff up. You think they can't pick up a seven to a 10-year-old, can't pick up an iPad and say and type into Google do I have anxiety, dude? You know what I mean? And then they get fed oh, wow, I've got exactly that. I must have anxiety. And then believes it and your beliefs become your reality.
Speaker 1:My little cousin, she was, I reckon she was five or six, and she was like oh yeah, the butterfly traumatized me and I just looked at her like traumatized Like you know, I learned that word last year Like five-year-old saying that sort of stuff just from YouTube. And she talks in an American accent as well. Oh no, yeah, that's when you know. We had that with Peppa Pig when the kids were young. They're watching too much, like is that what it means? They should consume so much that she picks up the language. Yeah, she talks some of the things she says. Why'd you say it like that? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, traumatized at six, anxiety at seven, xanax by nine? Hopefully not, yeah, no, but uh, would you do you regret not going back to work earlier, are you back at work now?
Speaker 2:I'm not, but I'm definitely I'm at that stage now of my life the kids are a bit older. I'm. I'm focused on myself now and what, what I need to do to fulfill myself. I think yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, what about? Okay, this is a good question. Do you want to come and work with me?
Speaker 2:No, fucking way. Okay, unless you want to get divorced.
Speaker 1:But a lot of people in that role.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but I know I need to do my thing. Yeah, I get that. I have no interest in.
Speaker 1:I get that. I have no interest in I get that. But sometimes do you appreciate that maybe some partners would feel a level of obligation to come and work for their partner, like so say now, say, look, I need someone to do invoicing for me, all right. And then you come in because it's a family business. You come in, you do that role and you don't even get paid for it because you're just helping the family business. I think that's a huge mistake too.
Speaker 1:And I tell my business, my people, I mentor, I say, guys, look, you shouldn't get your wife into your construction company. And they're like, oh, in the sense of it depends what they're doing, first of all. And second of all, if they're doing it because they have to, it's not ever going to be done to the level it needs to. If they're doing it because you need someone just to fill a role or you just want to give them a job, so they're going to feel like they're doing something again, it's not going to work. Sometimes they use it as an opportunity to do something cheap instead of paying someone to do it.
Speaker 1:I think that's a mistake too. Also, if you haven't been trained in construction, educated in construction, you're not really helping. You're kind of a burden. Yeah, exactly right, you're just doing paper pushing stuff. You'd be better off to employ someone who has education in construction to run an element of that business, as opposed to coming into this one or into that one. So I think some people make that mistake over the years. Yeah, that's fickle. You do see a lot of couples, though. That's what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like a lot, yeah, where you know. And the thing is so I mean it's like when you went on the jet ski and Nicole told you hey, what are you doing on my jet ski, right? So she's not afraid to tell people how it is. You know what I mean. It's like when I said, like now I said, do you want to come work with me? I've got a job, I'll pay you, I'll give you money Plus super, and you'll probably get paid, the same as some of the men here who wouldn't know. Stop. But she's like no fucking way, why would I come work with you? I don't want to. It doesn't have that interest. So what sort of job do you want?
Speaker 1:I want to do something where I have full control. So to me that says a business though A business.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You've just got to find out. I think you're right. You've just got to test the water. Start thinking about things. Try some stuff. Try for a few different people, see if you like that space and then go do your own thing in it. Yeah, it could be a matter of that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go work for a few different people see if you like that space and then go do your own thing in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could be a matter of that too. Yeah, go work at a cosmetics place. Here we go Back to makeup. Robbie just wants a slice of the pie. Yeah, I'm an investor. Robbie's just going to watch your videos. We'll make all the videos. We'll make all the Instagram reels for business. We'll cut a deal. Sounds good. Cut a deal, all right. No fucking around. Where do you see us in 10 years' time? That's what I'll be 50. Shit On a yacht.
Speaker 2:On a yacht. No, I think we're thinking bigger than that, 10 years Bigger than that, thinking bigger than a yacht.
Speaker 1:10 years 10 years is a long time, yeah there'll be flying yachts in 10 years.
Speaker 1:Flying a chopper on a flying yacht. Stop talking about putting it in the water. Robbie's getting helicopter lessons Do you know that? I do. You've been lately. I've got one booked in for, I think, two weeks. Yeah, cool, yeah, that'll be cool. I sent you that. Asked them, martin, they're making choppers now. That's what I'm saying. Say it, that's what I'm putting a pre-order in. That's good, 10 years time. Guest list. Weight list. Yeah, answer the question. That's true. 10 years time.
Speaker 1:50 years old Shit, 10 years, it's like the kids You've chucked yourself. Yeah, wow, so yeah, that's right. So how are the kids now? Just for context, 10 and 7, so 20 and 17, so it'll be Not going over days and my wife's in soon. Yeah, that's good. That's good, that's good. That's good, that's good yeah. Interesting question, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It's a tough one.
Speaker 1:Because you can say it from a perspective of you know, it's funny. I've never thought about that in 10 years. Yeah. A long time. I think it's hard to fathom. Okay, did you think we would be where we are today? 10 years ago? So 10 years ago, you were pregnant with our first child. Fast forward 10 years, so 2014. Yeah, 2014, a year. We were married for a year at that stage, or eight months.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you'd be as successful as you are, I think. I think I'd completely underestimated they always do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I guess you know. Going back to COVID, there was a silver lining there and no regrets, I think, because it's made us who we are today. And we did go through that really tough patch and we have come out the better side. George, to watch George go through all that training over the last few years to be the best version of himself has been the best thing to watch, I think, over the last few years. Best thing to watch, I think, over the last few years. And to see him come out on the other side, I'm very proud, very proud to see him grow that much over the last few years. So, no, we couldn't have predicted a global pandemic, I guess. So, short answer no, I did not see us to be where we are now.
Speaker 1:I mean, the thing that I'm most proud of and I know you are too the thing I'm most proud of is our children. Like I love kids, man, love it. It's like the best thing we've ever done. Like by far. I know people say you know what's the meaning of life? Like just kids. That's it. Like by far. I know people. Like people say you know what's the meaning of life? Like just kids, that's it. Nothing else matters.
Speaker 1:I'm clucky now, like I would have if Nicole said to me tonight so you have some kids, cause she's, cause I'm, I'm, let's go. Like I want to have more. And the reason I my daughter's seven. She's still cute and adorable and all that sort of stuff, but she's getting older. I looked at a video I sent you the other day and it's when I walked in the door. You're going to see this soon, iggy too. I walked in the door and both the kids ran. We've got a long hallway. They run down. They're like Daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. And I looked at her.
Speaker 1:I miss that man and I'm like looking at it. I'm like, fuck, I could have 10 more kids. 10 more kids, yeah, why don't you? But I love If you can birth them, you can have them. Yeah, but this goes back to what we were saying. Yeah, obviously, but obviously only one person can do that. One gender, just one gender. Here, here we go, here we go. Aaron of it that knock on the door, say we did have another kid. It'd be completely different. I would be completely different From the start. I'd like to stay home and cook and clean, kind of feel like the good, and raise the kids. That'd be a nice break.
Speaker 2:Why not See you? 2024,. Baby, take the easy life.
Speaker 1:That's it, the easy life.
Speaker 1:Year 2024, baby Take the easy life that's it the easy life Play PlayStation for eight hours. I'll call you up, we can play Call of Duty. Is that good? I'll take that. Yeah, go back. So that's definitely the thing I'm most proud of and it's I often find just lately and I think I said this to you the other day or someone else I find there's been times in the last six months that I felt sorry for myself because I wasn't where I wanted to be. I thought we would be further along in various aspects. But then I look back and go the things that I'm feeling sorry for myself for.
Speaker 2:And money tree. Yeah, they're superficial things. Yeah, that's right, you really need them and money tree, yeah.
Speaker 1:They're superficial things. Yeah, that's right, you really need them, that's right. They're things that I was like, you know, because honestly, I honestly thought by the time I'm 40, it'd be house paid off, holiday house. Which Lambo am I driving today, you know? Are we taking the chopper? That's where I've envisioned us being and we weren't there.
Speaker 1:And so there was times where I'd feel sorry for myself, but again I tend to quickly snap myself out of it, practicing gratitude, all that sort of stuff, and then even looking at stuff like that man, like you got happy, healthy kids. You know, if the closest 10 people in the world are happy and healthy around you, you've got a good life. Do you know what I mean? Everything else can be made and if you go to zero, cool, we can go again, and that's despite anything, beside all the good, despite all the bad, I've always, always, always known that Nicole's been there, no matter what it was. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:And I think having that and maybe I took that for granted a couple of times, like especially, say, during COVID like even though things might've been difficult and shit, I was like, oh, she's not going anywhere, you know what I during COVID, even though things might have been difficult and shit. I was like she's not going anywhere, she's got it too good. But it wasn't about that. I just always knew there was nothing that was going to change in that aspect for me. You know what, though I could be wrong about this, but I think that's a good thought to have. Imagine what's the opposite thought Fuck, what if she leaves? Do you know what I mean? Or vice versa, do you know what I mean? Or like vice versa? Yeah, do you know what I mean? What if she leaves me? Like imagine, having that thought all the time, what that will do to you Do you know, what I mean, so I don't think that's a bad thought.
Speaker 1:all in all, it only becomes bad if you start to neglect it's confidence in each other, is it not?
Speaker 2:But it's also unconditional love as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:No matter what, you know, We've grown together right. We met when we were quite young. Everything we've done, we've done together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're mature and we said this the other day when we were having dinner. It's like you never get a rule book, right? No one ever goes boy here. Still don't get a rule book. Yeah, but it's like, but I'd like to think we can give our kids a bit more guidance now. But I wish, like even when we got married like there's that I think we spoke about that book. That's 200 questions to ask your partner before you get married I wish we read that book and asked each other those questions. Read it now. Yeah, maybe, I mean yeah, probably still could and answer some of those questions. For sure, not all of them might be relevant, but yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1:What are your expectations on this? What do you feel about this? Where are the kids being raised? Who's looking after them when we go away? What happens when we get a dog? You know all these questions because I might think I'm totally fine with, like, leaving the dog at my mother-in-law's or my parents or my brother, but then Nicole would be like I'd rather leave a child and take the dog. What's a dog? By the way? Sorry, groodle, I was looking at getting a Groodle out. It's a big Groodle. Huh, yeah, she's a big one. She's got a horse. No, no, we actually. She's off the couch and shit. No, no, you can, we actually she's off the couch and shit. No, no, no, no. Our dog was like we're a medium one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's medium.
Speaker 1:No, no, but we asked for a medium and she grew bigger. She must've. She's got the good genes and she doesn't shed. Huh, nah, yes, you've got to get a dog that doesn't shed. Yeah, yeah, you keep cleaning hair all the time. I don't even know how to vacuum.
Speaker 2:Why would you? When your mum just comes over and vacuums, that's it.
Speaker 1:She does your laundry, I have a cleaner. This podcast often goes sideways, yeah, but I mean, as I said, I could never have achieved anything in my life. I will forever be in your debt for the rest of my life. Forever be in your debt for the rest of my life, like for the plain and simple fact of giving me kids and giving us kids and having that life. Yeah, I'm forever in nicole's debt for that reason and that reason alone.
Speaker 1:But it's not just about being in debt. Like we wanted an extraordinary life. I don't want to just how many people and you may be in this position yourself now listening but you're just going through the motions and you see, like, say, an older couple in their 80s and they're just together because they don't know anything else. Convenient, it's convenient, or they've settled and it's not. It's like I never wanted just to be married, like I never wanted just to be with someone for the sake of being someone we always, always wanted to do. I have always wanted to have extraordinary things I spoke about. Okay, by the time I'm 40, I've got the car, the chopper, the yacht, whatever the houses. But that's just one aspect. Why not have the most amazing relationship that you could possibly have the people look at and go holy shit, these people are cartoons, this isn't real. This is Disney or something, isn't it? Why can't you have that? Why can't your kids be the best kids, the happiest kids, the best version of ourselves, I think, is the most important thing.
Speaker 2:We just keep growing and keep being better.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think of this quote. But it's fantastic, I'll be the best, so I'm the best version of me. Sorry, no, it's like something along the lines if I'm the best version of myself, that is how to look after you. I need to be the best version of myself. That's it. So. For me to look after Nicole I just to look after you I need to be the best version of myself. That's it. So for me to look after Nicole, I just need to look after I need to be the best version of myself. For her to look after me, she needs to be the best version of herself. So it's not like you complete me, right, because to say you complete me, it's like I'm half empty, right. So, but together, if we look after each other and we're a whole, then we're two wholes coming together. So I always like that concept you know, being the best version of myself to be your best partner, be the best version of yourself to be my best partner, and then we come together and together we're not a whole, we're two wholes, not half-half. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I like that concept.
Speaker 1:I heard a huge. You just wrote a thing. I think I heard Simon Sinek say it and he has the best relationships like, regardless of whether it's an intimate relationship, if my husband, wife or it's a business partner or your best friend or whatever it is, the best relationships is where each party thinks they've got the better end of the stick. Absolutely, both parties think it. Do. Absolutely, both parties think it. Do you know what I mean? Like I feel like I've got the better in the league and they feel like They've got the better in the league, and then you're like I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you know what I mean? Because then Neither one feels like they're on. You know They've got the better in the league. Do you know what I? Mean, yeah, we often joke that, but oh, you scored. No, I often think it's like a batting out of my league, you know what I mean I do. I don't, yeah, yeah, you do George, you do George. Yes, you are.
Speaker 2:You definitely are. No, but I often think all the time I don't deserve him, don't deserve him always.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I feel like that about you too I think that's me though. Yeah, I think I feel like that about you too. I think that's okay though. Yeah, I think so. I agree. I agree. What would be a lot of people listening to this would be married or in a relationship. What would be some tips you'd want to share with them?
Speaker 2:Good question Tips to married couples.
Speaker 1:Sure Okay, I'll go on. Don't stop dating.
Speaker 1:As in going on dates, yeah, don't stop dating. As in going on dates, yeah, like, don't stop trying Just because you're married and I think we did that for a little while. Because, again, being selfless, giving ourselves to everything and everyone else business, friends, family, kids Don't stop dating ever. That's my biggest advice. And that doesn't necessarily mean hey, date night, let's go. It can mean just, hey, let me cook tonight. Do you date Something? I want to do more? We haven't really. No, we don't at the moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's on our to-do list. It's always yeah, but it's. I mean, we went out the other night but the kids were with us. That's okay, I know, that's right, that's what I mean. But you know, we'd planned, we have planned holidays away and we're continuing to, and I mean even more. So we can still do it this year, but next year as well, I want to spend the start of the year. Actually, no, let's do it now, let's not fuck around.
Speaker 1:Book our holidays out For the year. For the year, yeah, yeah, you know, and say cool, and it doesn't have to be. It can be say one big holiday, and I think we're planning a big holiday next year. So one big holiday, but then all the little ones too. So around public holidays Cool, let's go here for the weekend. You've got something to look forward to. Yeah, and then the kids can see that too. We have a big calendar at home. They know when all our holidays are. We have things to look forward to. I can go. Cool, we're not planning any events on this long weekend because we're going to be in Sydney, we're going to climb the Harbour Bridge, we're going to do all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1:I think those memories as well make a childhood. Do you have those memories? I've got a doubt. Yeah, you know what I mean. We used to go to like. I remember we used to go to Lakes Entrance. Yeah, same, yeah, we used to go to Lakes Entrance Heaps. I remember going there as a kid and then growing there a little bit older. Now I go there as an adult. I'm like fuck this place, it's not that good. It's always taking kids there.
Speaker 2:But, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does. It makes for great memories. First thing I would say don't stop dating, because it just becomes a groundhog day. You're not going to do anything in life, though yeah, it's keeping that spark alive. But also remember why you married that person. It wasn't just to be with them. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't just to go through the motions. Hey, honey, how was your day?
Speaker 1:It was good, what did you do? I played tennis. What did you do? I just processed some invoices. Are you telling me that you ask your kids a different question? You don't say how was your day or how was school? Yes, it was. What did you learn? No, I don't even say that. So it's like when you see the kids and everyone should do this, that's listening when you see your hey guys, how was your? Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but how was school? Yeah, what'd you do today at school? How was school? It was okay. I ask them this. Instead, I said what was the favorite part of your day? Because now they, every time I do they actually they stop and they think. Because if I say, it's lazy kind of when you say, well, how was your day, what'd you do at school? Okay, it was all right. I said, well, what's the favorite part of your day? Was it playing on your iPad in the morning? Because it can be that. Was it kicking the footy? Was it when you finished school? Was it getting an ice cream? And it just opens a bit more of a conversation. That's all. I think it controls their focus as well. Yeah, and we try to practice gratitude with them at nighttime as well. I found that's helped a lot. They have a rule in our house no negativity as well, so it doesn't always work, but we try to remind them of that. So, yeah, well, that was my one tip.
Speaker 2:What's yours Just to have. I think communication is probably the top of my list.
Speaker 1:Yep, and don't get me wrong, we're still working on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's not. Hey, we clocked it. We clocked communication. Tick, we've done that one. We don't have to talk anymore. Yeah, that's it Communicated. Enough of the week. We did our Signs in a week. Send me an email, don't talk to me, don't touch me, don't touch me, don't touch me, I'm casting. Yeah, I think communications are forever. It's a forever project.
Speaker 2:Like you don't.
Speaker 1:If you stop, it stops. Yes, I would also say another thing Do things that are exciting. I like to think lately I try to surprise you a bit. I want to say lately, the last 12 months or so yeah, didn't you buy a car, a car, is that all? I was there? I was picking up the car from the car. I was oh, I'm with you, that's right. Yeah, you're picking up the car from the car. You've got no idea. Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, there's been some best one. Oh, good question. There's three, the three main ones. Between the car, the Rolex and probably the trip to Vegas to go see Kylie Minogue in concert, was probably the most special one. I think it wasn't the actual gift itself. It was the surprise and the effort that went into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's actually a whole podcast about it. What's this? Okay, you're like where's this area? Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, you're like cool guys, listen it's okay, I don't listen to the podcast anyway. There's a whole podcast about this episode. Yeah, but yeah, I think make it exciting, don't? Yeah, but yeah, I think makes it make it exciting. Don't do boring mundane shit. Yeah, communication's great, you know, day nights are great, but don't just let it be the same thing every single time it's to show appreciation to show that you care.
Speaker 1:Yeah, show that you care, show that I still yeah, I like I value everything honest and look, I'm probably don't say this enough to you like, I am so grateful, so genuinely grateful, that you cook dinner every night, that I am wearing clean clothes, that they're ironed, that the house is clean. I don't do any of that, and that's not me being the man. That's because Nicole's doing it as supporting our family. I'm doing this as supporting my family. Do you know what I mean? I don't come home and say, hey, thank me for making a hundred bucks today. Do you know what I mean? That's what you made today.
Speaker 1:Make it, made that last been. We've been talking last five minutes, um, so, like I'm I'm forever grateful for that because I don't need to. Okay, I don't not that I don't need to it. Okay, I don't not that I don't need to. It's not like on the weekends I get home like cool, that's your job. You load the dishwasher. You know I'll like every morning's, on weekends, I'll cook the kids, I make the kids breakfast, nicole can sleep in, she does her thing, gets up, goes, takes the dog for a walk, get her coffee and I'll look after the kids. Then we go to do our day things. So you can still contribute as well. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:I think, okay, I'm reading a book at the moment. What's it called? I just started it last night. I'll come back. It'll come to me in a second. Anyway, it's about Ah, fire out, it's called. Ah, fire out, it's called. I'll tell you in a second. Actually, I'll tell you right now. Give me a second, guys, are you reading it or listening to it? Both, you do both.
Speaker 1:Oh, a Man's Guide to Women. Jesus, it might give me a copy of that, okay, yeah, I'll send it to you. I heard, I can't remember. I was listening to someone. Oh, chris Wilkins. Where's he get his surname wrong. Yeah, williamson Williamson. Yeah, it was the podcast and he made reference to this book. Oh, chris Wills or whatever. Chris Wills or whatever. Yeah, yeah, always get it. He's got to sort it out. Get your shit together, Chris, hurry up. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1:He was reading something out of the book and it was interesting to read. Where was I going with that? What's the book about? Yeah, so, oh, it's pretty self-explanatory Man's guide to women. But what it was saying in really the first chapter the success of a relationship is more prominent on the man's actions than the woman's. It is more dependent on what the man does or doesn't do than what the woman does, even though it's the women that probably instigate divorces, fights, all these sorts of things. In the moment, it's primarily based the successful relationships are primarily based on what the man does or doesn't do. It was interesting. I've only read the first chapter Happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yes, yes, but no, because it doesn't mean you've got to sacrifice yourself to make you happy, because that won't work either, because this is going to make Nicole happy, even though I hate it, but I'll do it, because it's just going to make her happy, so she shuts up, but then you'll do something else. Yeah, like indirectly or directly. Yeah, exactly, but anyway. So, coming back to that, so I've, I've, and everyone might think, oh, what a weird book to read. You know all this, you're reading it now, but think about it this way. Yeah, I know right, think about it this way. Yeah, I know right, think about it this way. And it's interesting.
Speaker 1:I invest in my business. I invest in property, I invest in whatever it is stocks, crypto. I invest in educating myself. You get a mentor. You do all these things, investing, reading other books to learn to become a better person, spiritually, mentally, physically. I'm at the gym every day, almost every day, so I'm investing in my body. Why wouldn't I invest in my relationship? Yeah, health, wealth, relationships. Why wouldn't I invest in my relationship?
Speaker 1:So that book may be a waste of my time. It may get three things. It may get one thing out of it. Yeah, I believe a book is never it could. You could read it and know everything in there. Even that in itself Could disagree with it. No, no, but you could say like, yeah, I already knew all this. That in and of itself it's just reassurance, like you got something out of it. Yeah, I got all over this. Yeah, you know what I mean. It might be that You'll get, you'll always get something out of a book, always. Yeah, it might be like I'm never reading this again, like, but so I'm looking at that as just me training myself. How do I be a better husband, how do I be a better partner? Because it is it's life partner, it's not just week partner you know month partner, you partner, it's life partner.
Speaker 1:So how do I become the best version of that for us? Nice, yeah, there you go to really stop. A woman's card to men, yeah, it's three pages. It's three pages long. That bookie sis. Yeah, how good. Um, all right, it's been a pretty cool chat today thanks for having me, guys no worries, what time's dinner?
Speaker 1:what do you, oh shit, always had to throw something in. I had to. Um, I'm going to be eating takeout. Yeah. Any final takeaways you'd like to share Either of you? Yeah, why not? I reckon it's not easy. I think any relationship that's worth anything that's worth it is never easy, isn't that true? I think Anything that's worth doing is never going to. It is never easy, isn't that? True.
Speaker 1:I think Anything that's worth doing is never going to be easy. All right, this relationship is worth it. So it shouldn't be easy, and I'm glad it's not. So I think sometimes, when things are easy, then neglect as well. Yeah, imagine like you know Too comfortable. Imagine we were worth billions right now. Don't you think they relate Like it would be easy?
Speaker 1:Everything would be easy. You'd still have to be putting in an effort to connect with that person. Otherwise, be like oh honey, I'm just going to go to Paris tonight. I'll see you in a few months. Yeah, we'll see you next Wednesday. Yeah, no worries, whatever, just going to go for a cruise in the Ferrari with the boys. You know that'll do. So. That's not an exceptional relationship. You still have to work at it. So I think anything worth doing, anything worth having in your life, is always going to take work. That's why I want my kids to have difficulties in their life. I don't want them to have an easy life. I want them to build character, to work hard for it, to appreciate it and to become the best versions of themselves. As you said, that would probably be my last takeaway. And to become the best versions of themselves. As you said, that's probably my last takeaway Make lots of money, have an amazing life, love the same woman and have kids. So if you're on the brink pause this podcast.
Speaker 1:Get to work. Get to work. All right, easy, done. Well, you mentioned it at the start, but I'll make mention here again, just in case you got caught up with that awesome intro and you didn't subscribe. Click that button, top right-hand corner. Most of you listen. Most of you are not subscribed. All of you listen. It is impossible to hear me say that without listening. All of you listen. Most of you aren't subscribed. Subscribe to the channel top right-hand corner, red button, and we'll chat to you on the next episode. Look, if we can get Nicole on the podcast and we can get her to listen to one episode, I'm sure you guys can subscribe. Let's be honest Second that, second that. All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thanks, guys, it's good to be with you next week. Thank you, see you.
Speaker 2:Peace out.