Million Dollar Days

Stress Management: How to Handle the Pressure

Robby Choucair and George Passas Season 1 Episode 37

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Ever wondered why some people seem unshakable in the face of stress? This episode's your golden ticket to mastering resilience and stress management, inspired by real-life challenges and high-profile figures. We'll dive into the tumultuous world of Donald Trump, examining how his wealth and ambition shape his approach to stress and criticism. From the relentless ambition driving his legal battles to the media scrutiny he endures, we uncover what it takes to navigate such a high-stress environment with grace.

We've got more than just political intrigue and business challenges on the docket. Personal fitness journeys, dietary insights, and coping mechanisms for stress are also on the table. Whether it's zoning out with TV or staying disciplined with a carnivore diet, we share candid reflections on how we manage our own stressors. The episode also offers practical advice on maintaining accountability and strategic planning to achieve your goals, emphasizing that success is often built from consistent, small efforts.

Plus, we're all about sharing the wealth of knowledge. From mastering delegation and responsibility to going the extra mile at work, we've got tips that'll help you advance your career. And for those looking to engage more deeply with their community, we discuss the power of sharing content and building connections. Tune in and discover the strategies you need to handle stress like a pro, push your boundaries, and harness the power of resilience.

Speaker 1:

Every stressful scenario you have from when you were five. It's training through experience. It's training through experience, yeah, and I feel that I've had a really big training session over the last five years so that when stressful things come up, I'm like hey, let's fucking move on.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes you're in the hole in business and when you've been there before, you're like I know I've been here before. Yeah, these waters are not uncommon, unfamiliar, sorry, these. These waters are not uncommon, unfamiliar, sorry, these waters are not unfamiliar. I know where we are. We're not in uncharted. What's the term they were using during COVID? Unprecedented, unprecedented times.

Speaker 1:

There are things now that are going to happen in life that you know everyone's going to go through a death of some sort, be it yourself or someone else that you know that's really close to you. It's going to happen. How are you going to deal with that? I'm going to become a citizen, a US citizen, and I'm going to vote for Trump.

Speaker 2:

I'll vote for him here Would you, I don't even vote here. Jokes, enrollment, enrollment, what's it called? The voting enrollment? People, whoever the fuck you are, those people? Yeah, those people Don't find us. Go get a real job. Yeah, why do you want to move to the US? Oh, just to vote for him. Just to vote for him, then I'll come back. Go, citizenship, yep Vote, then leave, just to get your two cents in.

Speaker 1:

I like what he's about. Man. I know a lot of people hate him. Yeah, I just like everything he says. I agree with.

Speaker 2:

He's going to win. Unless he ends up in jail.

Speaker 1:

Even then he'll win.

Speaker 2:

You reckon Even then He'll win. So he's the first ever president to have a Be indicted or whatever yeah, whatever the term is To have a case against him at this level, not because he's the first one to ever have technically done anything wrong, but only because the others get a hit and-. Look, let's be honest.

Speaker 1:

Let's be honest If you're a 40-year-old billionaire 40-year-old billionaire Back in the day, when he was in his 40s and he had strippers and hookers and everything going around.

Speaker 2:

probably most of those accusations are true. Yeah, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1:

Probably, who knows, who knows? Look in the same token. Maybe not, maybe he was a gentleman.

Speaker 2:

You know what? No, no, who knows? Okay, it's probably true, you're right, but what, like I said, just came out now, of course, exactly right. How convenient. Yeah, exactly you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

It's like a lot of the stuff he's saying now and I was watching this episode. Just a clip. You always see clips of him on socials, always you do. Yeah, man, because I'm voting for him. I searched Trump 2024.

Speaker 2:

Trump Talking into his home.

Speaker 1:

I was watching this clip and he goes. Look, it's very upsetting, everything that's happening, everything that I'm going through. It's not just me. I can handle it, I don't give a shit. He goes, but it's a picture of family. Yeah, he was saying that he goes. My wife, my wife, stood by me day one and money, and she's only because of this he goes. But it's not true because we've been together for however long it's been and all that sort of stuff you know, and it made me think that it's when you get to that level and you are so big, people start to bring you down 100%.

Speaker 1:

I think that's what I sympathize the most with him. It's not because I love his policies or I think he's a godsend and in all honesty, I couldn't give a fuck what America does. I think he's funny, couldn't care. Oh, I love that. He's just balls to the wall. I love that he doesn't care. This is what it is. Calls people up on their shit Nine times out of 10, he's pretty much bang on. He just doesn't care because he has so much money. He doesn't care. And he was saying something the ever given up his wage and just given it back. No, about $4.50.

Speaker 2:

In the US as well. Yeah, so the Prime Minister of Australia makes in our own dollars as much as-. Does a PM get that much? I thought he got less.

Speaker 1:

PM. Yeah, about $4.50. Is it there? You go? Yeah, so he gets about that. That's what he was saying. He goes. No one wrote any articles about that. No one wrote every quarter how I gave it back to the people. He goes. I'm the only one he goes. There's been some very wealthy presidents over the years. He goes. All of them took a wage. He goes. I've been the only one he goes. Oh, there might be some people. This person, this person, he goes. Maybe they did it. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'd have to check the facts, but coming and attacking my ability Doesn't get interest. Yeah, so you know, as you get bigger as things, as you get more well-known, you get comments like that. And it happened to me this morning again. Actually, because you're running heaps of ads for me at the moment with our upcoming events and whatnot, and it's funny I get. There was this one guy commented he's like this moment you become an Insta builder or Insta influencer, you stop becoming a builder or something like that.

Speaker 1:

And I was trying to just think of something to write back, and not that I really care, but it was just a prime example of someone playing so small, like someone just going. Okay, so if I'm trying to affect change. Let's just assume. Let's just be crazy and assume I'm actually trying to help people. How awesome am I going to that? What a crazy fucking idea. I'm actually trying to help people. How else am I going to phrase that? What a crazy fucking idea. I'm specifically trying to help builders. What a crazy thought for me to do something like that. But where else am I going to try and do that? How else can I reach the masses? Do you want me to advertise on the yellow pages?

Speaker 1:

I don't understand the game. I don't get it. I don't get it. So I look at that and there was not an ounce of anger in me when I read that comment. There wasn't an ounce of you're a fuckhead. There was nothing about that. I looked at him. The first thing I thought poor guy. Poor guy, man, he's playing small. Good on you, he's playing small. I almost empathize for him. I was like man, you've already given up, dude, I get angry.

Speaker 2:

I used to. I get fired up. I'm like I'm going to blast this bloke. I'm going to put him on show.

Speaker 1:

I find other people like my mates or my wife, like they'll read comments like that and they start attacking me. Dude, relax, relax. Look at the person, go on his profile, click on his profile and tell me if that's someone that you want to be upset over. You know what I mean. Half honestly, they're fucking weirdo. So let's be honest, without I mean.

Speaker 2:

You look at the profile like dude you're riding a koala like I don't know, whatever he's doing. You just reminded me of a guy who commented on an ad that we're adding at the moment. Yeah, and he goes why would anyone want to use ai to hide their building mistakes? This is thing. Quit, while you're still behind, buddy. Yeah, so I saw that one. I saw that and I was like, um, first of all, nothing to hide. Secondly, this ad is doing really well. Thanks for checking, though. Yeah. And then he's like, yeah, clearly, with your 13 comments, and I was like the ads are for comments, bro. Yeah, and then I wrote that and I sent it, and then I was like why am I talking to this guy? And then I blocked him, exactly. Yeah, I was like why am I? Why am I getting?

Speaker 1:

consumed into this and now that what I'm doing too, because I don't want to pay to reach people like that. So you block them and then they're no longer, you know, like I'm paying money to reach that particular person. They're never going to buy your product. They're not going to probably buy your product anyway.

Speaker 2:

So it was funny, but I get so petty with that shit I'd want them to come around and go to buy it. I said, wait, you commented sober.

Speaker 1:

Do you know? I actually do you know the first thing? I thought I almost offered him free tickets to come to the event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said I want to show you what we're about. No, I actually said invite him to my show if I need one.

Speaker 1:

Who wrote this? Can you stand up?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, stand up.

Speaker 1:

That is no. I wanted to give him a free event. I said tell you what, if you don't like it, I'll even give you your money back.

Speaker 2:

I'll even give you the money that I paid for you to get back, that I paid for you to get back. Yeah, I'll pay you to come. Yeah, eight bucks an hour, that's what it costs.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there you go. Cheap yeah, eight bucks an hour. You that are builders. Listen to this, jump on Enquire, send me a DM. If you send me a DM after listening to this, when is this going to come out? This will come out before the event.

Speaker 2:

It'll come out just before the event.

Speaker 1:

It'll be in a couple of weeks. If you listen to this and you're a builder and you're wondering what's George talking about, I've got a builder summit coming up. If you DM me or tag Robbie or and in this post right now, I'll give you a free ticket. Give you a free ticket.

Speaker 2:

No, absolutely Seriously, Free ticket. I'm going to DM you. Huh, yeah, sorry, I'm going to send you a DM. Well, there you go, free tickets, free tickets, backing Trump, backing Trump. Stop playing so small, stop playing so small. You know what I like about Trump?

Speaker 1:

What's that?

Speaker 2:

Dude, did you watch the UFC Daya? The he-man, dana White, are like good mates. It's like they speak at least monthly. Yeah, and you got to think like Trumps would have a pretty full schedule, like to speak to someone monthly. You probably like him a lot. And did you see a couple of weeks ago, post, post the indictment, like he got indicted on thursday or whatever it was, and then he went to the ufc?

Speaker 1:

dude, you got a standing ovation, yeah but look at the demographic, look at the people that are in that room. Most of those people would be yeah, trump, trump supporters.

Speaker 2:

I would say trumpians, trumpians, yeah, call them um, but, dude, I was thinking about it and I was like man, this guy, I was watching the post conference, first press conference, and they go to data. What did you think of trump coming to the event tonight with everything that happened post to, like, you know, the indictment, blah, blah, blah. And then he just looks at the comment uh, the reporter. He's like did you see him when he walked in? He's like yeah, he's like so what do you think? Do you think it was a good idea for him to come? And the guy's like yeah, he's like, did you see him when he walked in? He's like, yeah, he's like so what do you think? Do you think it was a good idea for him to come? And the guy's like yeah, he's like, yeah, exactly, he's like you got a standing ovation.

Speaker 2:

And then I was thinking, fuck man, have you ever had a stressful situation in your life? And then you're like I'm not fucking going to watch some, watch some fights. And it's like running for president. All this stuff happened. How are you not stressing? Do you know what I mean? Like, how do you say it? I'm so impressed, I'm so impressed. How are you not stressing? How do you have the ability to handle stress at that level.

Speaker 1:

Man. So good, so true, Because you look at everything he just went through and if everyone says oh, it's easy not to stress when you have billions of dollars, Hang on. Billions of dollars isn't going to keep you out of jail.

Speaker 2:

Or hey, I heard this sick thing the other day about making a lot of money and they're like, when you don't have money, most of your problems look like money problems.

Speaker 1:

If it's a problem and it can be solved with money, it's an expense, that's right, not a problem, it's an expense and I had a client many years tell me that and it just changed my perspective on whenever I had perceived problems and I go if I can solve that problem.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like if I can throw money at this and it goes away, I've got a money problem. I don't have a problem, I've got a money problem yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I said that the other day when I went, I was actually in a mediation for a scumbag that owed me some money. And we're having a negotiation and my barrister, we're having a chat with her, and she goes this, this, this, this, this. And I said listen, I know what my problem is here. And she's like what's that? She goes. My problem isn't that I'm arguing over 120 grand, my problem is that I'm not worth $50 million. That's my problem here. And she's like wow, she goes.

Speaker 1:

She's dealt with some pretty big hot shots in the industry and over time and period, she goes George, you're the most practical person I've ever met in my life. I said but it's true, because if I had $50 million, this isn't a problem. It's like here, don't talk to me like, I'm here just for the entertainment, to make him feel weird, yeah, and squirm to stare him down. That's right, just watch you squirm and just walk in there and just drop my ferrari key on there and say listen, this is what's going to happen right now. You're either going to pay some money, uh, and you're going to get rid of your pain right now or you're going to go the next four months and stress because if I lose it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I will pay. I will pay just to watch you. Yeah, I'm paying just to watch you squirm. Yeah, that's it seriously so and then that's what it was for me. Yeah, I looked at it and I go I don't have a problem, I've got a, I didn't have any issues there, and that in itself was a stressful situation. I've got to only imagine what trump was going through in that instance and running at president and running for presidency, and you know, oh shoot, oh shoot. Thursday night better go to the UFC.

Speaker 2:

And he's got dude. It's not like he's got nothing out, he's got businesses.

Speaker 1:

Everyone is smashing him from all ends, like he goes on any media, anything, and it's not. Hey, well done on all that money you raised. Well done on this. Well done on that. Well done for donating your money when you were in term. Well done for that. Well done for donating your money when you were in term. Well done for the lowest inflation, the lowest unemployment. People don't go in for that. They go. What about the sex scandal? What about this? What about this? What about that? They only smash it. They only go there and say things that are going to get ratings on TV and he handles it like a champion every single time. But how much?

Speaker 2:

could that wear you down, even the way he walked From the trial or whatever it was? Yeah, I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 1:

Ball case. That's it, massive ball cases. You guys corrupt system. Yeah, corrupt judges.

Speaker 2:

This has been. Yeah, you guys have made a horrible mistake today. How many people will do that? We will win this. The vote will happen. Yeah. What will happen, however? The fucking dog says it On November 5th, whenever election. He's gonna win, dude, he's gonna win. Yeah, like, but, man, I take it off, I take my hat off to 77, 78, whatever he is yeah, he's.

Speaker 1:

He's switched on. Still dude on on busy someone asked me this. The other day was actually at one of my trainings. One of the guys came up to me. He goes george, when is enough enough? He's like when are you, when are slow down? Dude, I'm just getting started Slow down. When is his eye enough? I don't think it ever will be. My goal isn't to ever be enough. I want to keep going until the last moment and I don't see that. See, people are like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, keep going. I was just trying to digest what he's saying, yeah, cool People.

Speaker 1:

I think it's a limiting belief because it's like no, no, once you get $50 million, that's it. Stop, Just relax, Just enjoy your life. Why don't you spend time with your family? Yeah, you're like, I am fucking enjoying this shit. Dude, you're sick. Why am I? You're making it out.

Speaker 1:

What he was effectively saying is oh you're it's painful. Yeah, you must be sacrificing so much to be away, to be doing all this. Because we were on a three-day retreat where we were deep diving into an aspect of running an instruction business. And he goes you're away from your family for three whole days doing this. I said, yes, but this is going to allow me to have a three-month holiday with my family and memories I'll remember for the rest of my life. Yeah, Because, yeah, Because. Am I willing to sacrifice three days for three months? Absolutely. Am I willing to sacrifice three days so both my kids go to private school? Absolutely. Am I willing to do like there's? It's not, it should be a sacrifice. This is a win-win scenario for me. I'm doing something that I enjoy and brings me lots of fulfillment, and I then get to celebrate that with some people I love the most.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and most people that I don't know who said this to you, and I'm not cracking at them, whoever they are, not at all.

Speaker 1:

It's most perspective, and we spoke a lot about limiting beliefs at this particular event as well, and that was a limiting belief for him. He thought because he saw how hard he was working. He's like I see myself working really hard, but I see what I have to do in order to achieve that level of success.

Speaker 2:

I have to do in order to achieve that level of success, I have to sacrifice my family or I have to sacrifice my personal health. No, you don't. That's a blockage. It is. It's a blockage, it's a mental block. Here's another thing, though People who do say that thing tend to stay at home on a Saturday and watch TV for 10 hours. And then you're like dude, me spending an hour with my kid present is more valuable than you sitting there watching TV at home on a Saturday. Yeah, way more fucking valuable. Yeah, you know what I mean. You not spending time with him anyway, but saying I'm home at 5.30. Who cares? What's the point If you're a fucking dud and you sit down on the couch and you turn into a zombie. Even better, you turn into a zombie and you don't know what's going on. You're not present, you're not paying attention to what the kids are doing. You know what I mean. As opposed to being there for that's not to say you don't love them.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. It's not to say it's not because you love them, you're doing all this for them. Okay, I get that, but you're one day wake up and turn around and you've got teenagers. That because once, when you've reached that level, when it's enough, they're going to be teenagers, young adults, and want to live their own life. They're not going to want to hang out with you or sit on your lap and eat dinner at 23. You know what I mean? Yeah, so you've got to make the most of it.

Speaker 1:

And look, this is a challenge for a man as well, or for the provider of the family, I believe is your greatest opportunity to make the most wealth in your life exists when you are young, hungry, like. You're at that level, 10 years into your profession, and it's your time to go out there and crush it and kill it. You're peaking, yeah, yeah, you're peaking, yeah, you're peaking. But it's also the time that you have to sacrifice with your children, because you can't be home all the time and be with them and go play and go to the park, take them to school, pick them up, cook dinner, because you've got to grind and do that. It's the sacrifice of a man to do that, or the sacrifice of the breadwinner of the home to do that. But they've got to go out. Shout out to all the single parents out there.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I mean? It's a tough gig. I'm fortunate because I've got my wife that I can rely on to do all that, and then when I come home, that's my time to be present. The other day I coached my son's football team. I have to leave work at 3 30 to go make it a training on time. It's a pain in the ass, but he loves it. And once a week yeah, once a week, yeah, he loves it. Yeah, I know, but it's always when I'm in the zone, I'm in the zone.

Speaker 2:

It's like you just gotta get up and do it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, get up yeah, yeah, start work earlier, though. Start at 5 30, do your 10 hours exactly. Exactly, right, I get to do that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fucking I get to do that. Yeah, fucking work, I get to do that. Stress cool. We're talking about stress and how everyone, I think, at some stage in their life be it now when they're at work, when they're outside of work are stressed.

Speaker 2:

I want to touch on something that you just mentioned. Then you said it's not like they don't love their kids, or something like that. Right, yeah, do you think anyone? Because you're talking about intentions there do you think any human actually has bad intentions?

Speaker 1:

Like any human at all. Yeah, I think so. Why wouldn't there be? Why would there be?

Speaker 2:

Me personally, I don't think anyone is bad. In what way? Like? Even if someone has an intention of hurting you in a way, it's because they want to make themselves feel better. It's not because they have or they want to hurt you for the sake of hurting you.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure there's some people that are not mentally stable. Yes, that's different.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's not bad intentions, that's not. That's, yeah, stability, that's right. Different thing yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, no, I probably agree with that then. Yeah, I think, deep down, no one has really bad intentions, so their intentions may be good.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying. You've said this before. You've said it. Yeah that person.

Speaker 2:

You hate that, whatever it is, that person thinks they're a good person. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

That person. What I mean that?

Speaker 2:

person. Deep down, I was gonna say they're a nice person. Yeah, and it's like one of the belief that you hear. You're like, oh yeah, that person probably doesn't think what I think about. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And it's um, it's a very good eye for it. But I don't think anyone has a bad intention like I. Even if you come in, you're like I'm gonna steal from here, I'm gonna do this, so I'm gonna rob these people or hurt these people or do bad things. There's an underlying intention. It doesn't make it okay Let me be super clear about that but I think there's an underlying intention with that.

Speaker 1:

It's probably stealing. So you can help, so you can provide for your family. You know what I mean. Or go home and they have dinner tonight.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. There's layers to it, right?

Speaker 1:

It's like you know, hurt someone because it gets you another star on your gang.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. It's like the parents who spoil their kids. We know now as society, giving your kids everything is not good for them. Yeah yeah, it ruins the kid. But you reckon their parents would say I'm going to fuck this kid up? Yeah no, I love this kid so much. I this kid up? Yeah no, I love this kid so much, I want to give him everything that I didn't have. The intention is all almost always good, you know what I mean, and it's like there can be bad consequences from good intentions. Anyway, just want to touch on that.

Speaker 1:

No, very cool, Very cool. So we're talking about stress. I love the segue, by the way. So good, so good. I picked it up really early when you started doing it and I'm like, as soon as you said he deals with stress, I'm like, how good? So today's topic we wanted to talk a little bit about handling stress and how you go about it, how I go about it, and this is something I've learned over the years your ability to handle stress is in direct correlation to your wealth. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I've seen people who are in high-stress situations that generally have wealth behind them or in a pretty good wicket as far as remuneration is concerned.

Speaker 2:

I also think you need to be careful as well, because sometimes people take a position that's ridiculously stressful because they might earn a quarter of a of a million a year, or half a million or whatever it might be, and they wear themselves out then yeah, I can definitely see how people do that what's advice for you?

Speaker 2:

everyone has vices, I believe. Yeah, like I would turn to a dude just for the record. You're watching nine kilos down there. Yeah, how good is that? Fucking kilos. Fuck man, nine kilos, a lot. Nine kilos, yeah, I'm jumping higher. Are you under seven and you're under an 80?

Speaker 1:

now, yeah, did you see my comment on facebook? No, oh, not on facebook, on youtube oh did you see? Oh you go, you jump on the one where you jump on the scars. I go about 180, yeah, 180, I agree. And you're like no, fuck, yeah, I wrote fat failure.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm there now. It motivated you, you got done. You got it done, I'm there now. So crack of the seven, finally Awesome.

Speaker 1:

How good is that? Yeah, I've been thinking about the carnivore diet. How are you still, don't? Yeah, the last podcast? Yeah, saying, oh, 19 days in, this is the worst. You're pretty far in now, aren't they?

Speaker 2:

38 days, 39 days um.

Speaker 1:

But it'd be interesting to see when you stop the carnival diet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I might just implement fruit into it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, because it's a great source of protein.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it's good for you to be doing that Sure.

Speaker 2:

And just stay off the carbs unless I'm going to eat a pizza or something. I like not, don't make it a regular thing, yeah, but yeah. So the vices thing thing for me, advice was food dude. Yeah, I mean, I would have a full-on day even, like today's been full-on for me, like I did not stop, dude, um, and like after this I would go get a burger or something, because I'd be like man, like honestly, like just let me enjoy my life. Yeah, because, like I've done so much today, like let me just and I would go do that, yeah, I'll go eat a burger or pizza or something. And I haven't been able to do that now at this time. So that vice has gone.

Speaker 2:

So now, when I have a shitty day, I can't do anything, sit there and like the thing with meat is you don't? You don't sit there like I'm gonna munch on some steak. You know, I mean, if you feel like yeah, kind of like yeah, yeah, you feel like munching, that's not appetizing. Do you know what I mean? And that was a big vice for me. That's probably why I put on weight slowly over the years. Yeah, and I don't have that anymore as in, I can't turn to it right now. Once the 75th day is over, over, I'm done, but right now, um, I can't turn to it, so I have no voice. So every time I have a stressful day, I just sit down and I'm like, fuck man, like, and yeah, you know what? You know, it's become the thing you like. If I go for my nightly walk around, I'll just plug headphones in and go, and that's now become the thing where I kind of release yeah, what do you do?

Speaker 1:

what will I do in a stressful situation? No, like, or like on a day where I'm nice, what's advice for you? Like I think food is probably there too. Yeah, like you'll go sometimes. Yeah, I'm in a shitty day, not real. No, you know, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I love my food yeah, like I've never seen you sit there, like, yeah, bring, like yeah, I love food.

Speaker 1:

I love food. I think I'm not as as disciplined as I would like to be when it comes to say, diet. Yeah, for example, I've been training for 12 months now and it's predominant like I probably haven't achieved the results I wanted to because of my I'm not so strict on my diet now. I don't eat like shit. That's the funny thing. I don't. I don't go out and have maccas or cakes or this or that, but I'm probably just not as strict as I could be. You know, with sticking to a particular diet, eating your proteins, all that sort of stuff, counting macros, all that sort of shit. It's a difficult one. I don't know exactly what I have. That's detrimental, especially lately, because I've been very driven and focused over the last six months.

Speaker 2:

So what do you do? Some people drink, some people smoke. I don't do that. Some people do drugs, some people will be.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I reckon I might be for me? Maybe I just zone out yeah, yeah, just zone out, yeah, yeah, I can vibe yeah, but say for example, if I've had like a killer week, you know, we're saying being present, being present sometimes is hard when you get home and you've had a killer week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I think that might be a vice for me, in the sense that I'll Will you watch TV yeah, yeah, that's probably a good one or I'll just be on my phone and just trying to yeah, just but just not present with the missus or the kids or company, whoever it is. That's probably my vice in that instance. Now that I'm thinking about it out loud yeah, but that happens a few like few and far between. Yeah, especially over the last six months, because you know what it's been.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I reckon this podcast has helped us level up or me anyway, has helped me level up from that perspective, because we talk a lot of business. We talk a lot of things that are going to help push us and grow us in the right direction, and then also things that have come out of that, like our weekly meeting. We have that weekly meeting now, which we've been doing for about six weeks now, something like that. We're catching up and we're talking business, we're talking strategies, we're talking things that we can do for our events, for other businesses that we're involved in, other ideas we can have how you can help me in other businesses from an advertising, from websites. You've built some sick websites for me over the last three months. Do you know what I mean? All of them, they're all sick. We've got to launch the PASCON one soon, so keep that. By the time you hear this Might be live.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, at pasconcomau, I bet it's not updated. Send George a message, that's it.

Speaker 1:

So and then also, that's been the thing that's been eating at my side is the whole notion of making $5 million in the next six months. That's been eating at me a lot and I've used it at a training. I use the example. At a training, I said that same thing to a client today. If you have to make $6 million today, I said, go, you got to do it in the next six months. They're like oh yeah, I'll give it a crack. Okay, cool, if you don't do it, I'm going to take your arm and a kid All right, it's getting done is an example we had uh, I can't remember.

Speaker 1:

I've spoken about this in in the previous podcast, but we had the cfmeu come out onto one of our jobs a little few weeks back, about a month or so. Yeah, I think I may have alluded to it. I'm not going to avoid saying anything, but you know what? I don't give a fuck, whatever. The CFMEU for those of you that don't know, they're a construction union and they came and visited one of my sites and throwing their weight around, using some intimidation tactics and all that sort of stuff. Going there, you've got to shut your dog down. It's not safe, it's not this. It's not that, and I get the game. I understand it. It's not me bashing them. I see them as a necessary evil. As far as being in the industry and having a role to play, do I think they're too far and too extreme? In this instance, absolutely, but I'm sitting on the other side of the fence, so that's why it's very easy for me to say so.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I met up with one of the organizers the other day following my meeting. It was a really positive meeting. Nice guy gentleman was very respectful, telling me what he was looking for. I told him what I was looking for and where I'm at in my life and my business and all that sort of stuff. He approached it with a collaborative approach in the sense of we want to work with you, we want to help you get to where you need to be so that you know when you grow. So do our members, like our members, get business, like our members have work, have a job. So we want to help, support you get to where you want to be, if you want to do these bigger projects and all that sort of stuff. I said look, thanks for the support, and if that's how you genuinely feel and genuinely think and want to have a collaborative approach to working, I to working. I think it's a really good relationship and a really good thing you're doing.

Speaker 1:

Now they went out that same day, or the day before, sorry, and posted a video on and put it across their social media pages, pretty much bad mouthing me or not me personally, but the company saying Pascal not paying people, they're dodgy, they're cutting corners on safety, they're doing this, they're doing that. And this is where I was saying people were attacking you know, my company that I love and all this sort of stuff. And people were getting more emotional that either were at my employees like let's, that's bullshit, let's get them, let's do our own video, let's fucking bad mouth them. And then I get even clients and um friends, other contractors, like calling hey, this bullshit, you know what? How can they say that? How can they do all this?

Speaker 1:

So look, said look, guys, that's the game, just relax, not a big deal. Oh, but they just said how unsafe you were. Am I unsafe? No, and I will double whatever I owe in Right now. I'll send it to him. Do you know how I I can say that with so much conviction? Do you know why? Because I know I've paid everyone Because I press the button that goes out and bays everyone, yeah, anyway, the point I'm getting at is I see a lot of people around me getting stressed and I can get it. Big scary union coming and knocking on my door. Big scary union posting a video on social media that isn't true that a couple thousand people might see.

Speaker 1:

Hey you're talking about me. They're talking about me. I wear this badge of honor. You're playing small guys. You're playing small. The big boys are starting to take notice of little old me. All right, what are you getting intimidated for? Oh, people are calling us scubs. They're going. Oh, how do you shut them down? Shut them down, guys. They're talking about us. And then I emailed you the other day. No, I texted you. I said hey, because I got the Google report Come in. And I emailed oh, yeah, the Google one. Yes, so Google sends it out. You're doing something different. You've got some ads running that I don't know about, because we had a huge influx of 200, 300% or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, huge influx of visitors to our website.

Speaker 1:

Clicking on this, getting in touch phone numbers, addresses, everything and then it clicked. Look at that. People are taking notice. How funny. Free advertising Didn't even cost me a cent, uh. But the point I'm getting at, and what made me realize, is how, how much better I am at handling stressful situations that I would have been five years ago. Why, though? I think I've? Well not. I think I've gone through the hot coals. You know, I've got the calluses. That's what I believe it is. I don't think it's something you can specifically be taught. I think you do have to experience stress to be able to handle stress. How can I teach you stress? How can I teach you stress management when something stressful happens? Hey, go in the corner.

Speaker 2:

That's a good question. How can you go and practice breathing exercises in the corner and come back and it'll be right? How can you teach that? So there's gonna be. That's a great point you make.

Speaker 2:

And going through experiences is one thing, but don't you believe that you can? Okay, if we had the same methodology around airplanes crashing, yeah, we'd be like, well, listen bro, you know, until you've been in an airplane crash, I can't teach you how to. I can't teach you how to do. You know what I mean? I can't teach you how to handle it. Yeah, if we thought the same way about it. But they teach people how to handle airplane crashes. Right. This is a bit different because your body, like you, mentally, can freak out. Yep, but what are some things? If I said to you you got to prep your son, you're going to have to do something really stressful. You're going to prep him right now. You got 24 hours. Spend the next 24 hours with him. You're going to share something with him. You're not going to be like, listen, bro, there's nothing I can do, you just got to experience it. And hopefully at that age it's brah, listen, brah, listen, brah, listen, brah. Do you want to eat? Yes, and it's like you're not going to do that.

Speaker 1:

It's probably the same advice I would give someone that's 38 years old.

Speaker 1:

It will pass. It's not going to be here forever. So, no, it will pass. There will be tools. Yeah, I mean, you can do the whole. You know, count three blue things, take five deep breaths, assess the risk and danger and all that sort of shit Like slip, slop, slap. Yeah, that's all that sort of shit. But the thing that I've realized with every single stressful situation in my life that I've had to date it will pass. It will pass Tomorrow, the sun will rise. Everything will keep moving forward. As long as you are, you have to have that mindset and that belief that everything will be better and work towards it. Working towards it, it will pass.

Speaker 1:

Everything you are going through, everything you have gone through to this moment, listening to this podcast, sitting at this table, you are a whole incumbents of your experiences to date. Every stressful situation in your life you have gotten through today, every single one. Are you stressed about them right now? You might be. There might be some things in your life right now that you're stressed about. Are there things that you've experienced that were really stressful in the moment that are not stressing you out right now?

Speaker 1:

Vce, some people stress ridiculously over that when they're going for their exams or in uni. Are you stressed about your uni exams right now? That you did 13 years ago, 15, 20 years ago Hasn't crossed your mind. Are you stressed that time you went to go get your building license or get registered or get your driving license or anything that was stressful? No, but every single scenario, every single thing that you have accomplished and will continue to, just makes you better at handling those stressful things. The better you are at handling stress, the calmer you're going to be when stressful situations come up. And I think it's really important to have a cool, calm, collected head when a stressful situation comes up. That's what we just do. You make better decisions. You make better decisions. Have you ever seen someone that's erratic? Where something happens? Oh, just hold on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but just stupid things. You're not helping the scenario.

Speaker 2:

We've all been in that position too, right I've?

Speaker 1:

heard the perfect example say kids drowning, drowns in a pool and I've heard this scenario a few times before. Kids drowning or drowns right, they pull them out of the pool. He's not breathing, right. If you are and most of the time it's the women in this instance because they are more emotional and will get in hysterics okay, but it's not saying that that's always the case. But if you're in hysterics when you pull a kid out of the water, do you really think that kid's got a better likelihood of surviving or not? It's the person that goes step the fuck back, move. I know CPR. I know what I need to do. The father, the brother, the sister, the mom, the dad, whoever that cool, calm, collected person is is going to save that kid's life Fuck dude, two things.

Speaker 2:

You just reminded me of a situation Not drowning. Do I want to share this? Yeah, I'll share it my younger cousin this was years ago and there were shifting houses. He was like five. He was probably like 24 now. He was like five at the time and there were shifting houses and one of the something happened, a whole thing happened, and he got smacked in the face with a log of wood accidentally. Yeah, like dude lean, like I was, I thought he died Very bad hit.

Speaker 2:

Mum was freaking out, dad was trying to see if his teeth are still in like, and mum was freaking out so much that the dad started flipping. And then, and then my dad at the time was the only calm one because it wasn't his son, I guess. But I was just watching this whole thing unfold and then I was thinking how do you stay calm in that situation? Just then, as you were explaining that, and there's this cool thing I heard and it's you're not stressed or you're not, you don't have anxiety, you're just not prepared enough. And I think going through a situation like that or a kid drown like a life. Because I was thinking how does a lifesaver stay calm?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They're just prepared.

Speaker 1:

It's so trained, they're trained. That's what it is and that's what I'm saying. Every stressful scenario you have, from when you were five to now, it's training through experience, training through experience. Yeah, and I feel that I've had a really big training session over the last five years so that when stressful things come up, I'm like, hey, just fucking move on. But so how do you? This isn't a big deal and even whether it's personal or whether it's professional, it will always pass.

Speaker 1:

there are things now that are going to happen in in life that you know, everyone's going to go through a death of some sort, be it yourself or someone else that you know that's really close to you. It's going to happen. How are you going to deal with that? I can't remember who was saying this. I think it might've been Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson yeah, be the strongest person.

Speaker 2:

Be the strongest person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how did I know you were going to say that we're trying? That's why. That's why and I'd like to think that I would be I see all my family, I see everyone. My dad has always said actually I think this is an original saying but the last gift your parents will ever give you is when they die, and that's because that's when you now become head of the family. That's when you become a man or or the woman or whatever it is. You become you. You are no longer under the guidance, you are no longer under the wing of a parent, whether you're eight, 50, 60, 70 years old and you thought your parents still around, you're never that person until they pass away. That's the last gift that they give you. Then you become that for your children, for your offspring, whatever it might be. And I like to think as myself the day that that happens, or the day that that comes because it will and it's going to die Hopefully before me, as God willing and as I want it for my own children as intended.

Speaker 2:

The natural order Best case scenario that's right. Best case how fucked, how fucked is that? Yeah, best case scenario. Best case scenario that's right. Best case how fucked, how fucked is that? Yeah, best case scenario. Best case scenario is you don't get to see your kids grow up fully like live their whole life. Live their whole life. That's your best case scenario. That's right, it's so. The more I think about that, the more it's like it's insane. Yeah, so true, so true.

Speaker 1:

And I try, I believe. Looking at my whole family and what everyone's like, I think I am that person in my family. Again, it's just everything that has led me to this date. Now you go tell I know people that are like this and touch wood doesn't happen to anyone else or to very few people who you can live through your life. But if you have a child die, go tell the father of that child or the mother of that child about stress in work.

Speaker 2:

They just look at you like you're fucking stupid.

Speaker 1:

What's wrong with you? You know what I mean and that's like that's a bit a bit of gratitude in that space, I suppose a little bit. But you, you mentioned before how do you do deal with it. Look, there are still tools and resources that you can use in stressful situations. Yeah, sometimes taking a step back, take 10 deep breaths, go sit in the sun for five minutes, go for a walk, go for a walk. Yes, those are tools that can definitely help you in stressful situations. Meditate, absolutely Do those things.

Speaker 2:

Listen to Sleep. Yeah, sometimes you had a really bad day. You just go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep, wake up tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1:

It's another day and away you go. That can work sometimes too, side note why your employees calling me.

Speaker 2:

But I tell the side note, they tried mouth tape. Oh, you got it, of course I saw you? I saw you wearing it the other day. Did I send you a thing of mouth tape? No, when you did that video with um, oh yeah, I was still fat when you were over 80 kilos.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you got it. Of course I got it. I saw you wearing it the other day. Did I send you a thing of mouth tape? No, when you did that video with-. Oh yeah, I was still fat when you were over 80 kilos.

Speaker 2:

I always wear that. Look at this. I've had mouth tape for seven days. I'm going to sleep, so it's been amazing. Dude, it's irrefutable Camera. It was irrefutable. The only day I didn't get green was a day I slept four hours. Why did you sleep four hours? Just had a late night at an early start, had shit to do, shit to do. I'm fucking around. Yeah, that's really interesting. All green man, and don't remember before that I would normally get like, maybe, yeah, like four greens, yeah. Or if I check out each week, yeah, you feel three greens, you don't feel any difference.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I never felt bad, Even people saying like so what about the thing on your nose? Oh dude, I will give you one. Try it once. You probably will never sleep without it again, For like 60 cents a night. You will never sleep without it again. Give me one, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'll bring one to you. Is it just one-time use? Yeah, you use it and then you just like-. So what does it do? Is it like a suction cup on the side of your nose and pulls it out?

Speaker 2:

It's just like sticky, so you apply it, but it's got like a thick-.

Speaker 1:

Center.

Speaker 2:

Something in the middle, doesn't that?

Speaker 1:

fucking annoy you at nighttime.

Speaker 2:

You don't feel it, you can't tell it's on, yeah, right, yeah, and you at the same time yeah, so you can breathe through your nose and then you cover up your mouth. Yeah, right, and you sleep and um, it's the mouthpiece a little bit annoying, because if you wake up and you're thirsty, you can't really pour water up your nostril, does it like?

Speaker 1:

does it hurt when you rip it off?

Speaker 2:

no, you don't sit there like, like I know you do it Slowly, yeah, but yeah. So irrefutable then Irrefutable Puts you in. I was told this term parasympathetic state, or something along those lines.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right.

Speaker 2:

Apparently, when you breathe three days, you get into a deeper sleep. One thing I have noticed is I've slept through about three alarms since doing it. Yeah, yeah, I was not hearing it, just so out. But yeah, do I feel different overall? No, I never felt bad. Did I feel different from doing the carnival diet? No, I never felt bad. Yeah, you know. But yeah, sleep kilos lighter, still feel the same. T-shirts fit better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was going to say you don't actually look. I mean maybe it's because of your jacket, but you don't actually look much.

Speaker 2:

I've had a few people see, but I probably see you a lot too. Yeah, I think that's not the problem, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but yeah, I mean, that's my advice. I've had a few people say like dude, have you lost weight? It's, if I look one, I mean, unless you're 250 kilos and a buzzer kilos isn't a buzz. Yeah, let me show you a photo from six weeks ago and you'll realize the difference. What's a good photo that's gonna make? I saw a photo the other day, dude, and I was like man, like I was, you know. I saw a photo at the builder summit. Let me find it that's funny. It's just you just realize like, oh shit, like I was. Um, my face is much chubbier.

Speaker 1:

They're playing small, we'll play in big stomach but yeah, once you're finding that I had, um. So, whilst I remember, during one of my stressful periods in business, I would be driving to sites and I'd be listening to podcasts that were putting me in the right frame of mind before I actually got to work so positive, motivational ones, things that would help me get through a difficult situation. It could even be on a podcast about how to manage difficult times or stress or whatever it might be, and I noticed that that helped me a lot in those moments too.

Speaker 2:

So you're saying setting the foundation.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, yeah, absolutely, I'm practicing gratitude. That was something that I practiced a lot back then and still do now, but that was a tool that really helped me in that scenario.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, look how much tubby my face was there. Oh, heaps Compared to now yeah, heaps, yeah there. Heaps Compared to now yeah, heaps.

Speaker 1:

Nine kilos More than 10% of my body weight. Yeah, it would definitely be noticeable. Yeah, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 2:

What podcast do you listen to? This one, obviously.

Speaker 1:

Why would you listen to anything else? Now I don't listen to anything else. I was listening. I was literally listening to this podcast driving here from my meetings today.

Speaker 2:

I don't see why you wouldn't do. That would make no sense.

Speaker 1:

Gotta catch up sometimes I need an expert opinion. Would make better to listen to myself better to listen to.

Speaker 2:

Alright, cool anything else. Stress wise that you think people could do should do apart from sleep walk. Don't be scared of it.

Speaker 2:

That's experience yeah it's hard to say that, do you know could do, should do, apart from sleep, walk, breathe. Don't be scared of it. That's experience. Yeah, it's hard to say that. Do you know what I mean? It's like the only thing you can do apart from experience is prepare right. That's the only thing you can do. There's nothing else you can do from that front to help you. You know what's funny as well.

Speaker 1:

I used to look back when I was employed, before I had my own business, and think about being stressed at work.

Speaker 2:

As an employee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like man, this job's stressing me out and you're like dude, do you remember when you used to leave and unplug? Yeah, that's what I mean. What happened to that? I haven't been able to do that.

Speaker 1:

I haven't done that in 10 years. I look at that and I was like man you had the good life.

Speaker 2:

Don't you also think, though, that one day you'll look back at this, and then you'll be like how easy was that? Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 100%. Two, three. Is that a podcast? That's it. Just the one podcast. Just the one. Yeah, we should go break off and do other ones as well. Just the one. Um, that's just the experience. That's muscle. Like you know what I mean, you build. It's like a muscle. You build it, you get better at it. Um and we've shared this about business before, sometimes you're in the hole in business and when you've been before, you're like I know I could have been here before. Yeah, these waters are not uncommon, unfamiliar. Sorry, these waters are not unfamiliar. Yeah, I know where we are. We're not in uncharted.

Speaker 2:

What's the what was that term? They were using during COVID, unprecedented, unprecedented times.

Speaker 1:

Speaker Switch. Did you hear? Daniel Andrews got an award or some shit the other day? Well deserved, well deserved, yeah, we the other day Well deserved, well deserved.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we should get him on the podcast.

Speaker 1:

I'd love to thank him in person. What a fucking joke that guy yeah, what's the award for? Oh, it was something about I can't remember Most Lockdowns. It was actually quite a highly recognized award that he won and it was Steve Price was actually bagging it on the project. You know, steve Price is a TV personality, presenter, news type guy on the project and he was saying how the fuck did he get an award after everything he had done? Like that to me is just ridiculously rigged, everything rigged.

Speaker 2:

Man, I don't think everything was rigged.

Speaker 1:

It's ridiculous. It was ridiculous. I just couldn't believe that he, of all people, was celebrated for his efforts over the last, you know, eight years. We don't think that's just paid for what. The award itself hey, did you?

Speaker 2:

I don't want to say this on the podcast. Yeah, I'll say it. Did you get a nomination for Australia of the Year? Absolutely, why wouldn't I? Seriously, why? Huh? No, I nominated you. I was like this is going to be sick, dude. Once you get the nomination, you can be like nominee for Australia of the Year. And I was like, how funny, yeah, this is going to be sick, have you? And I was like, yeah, this is going to be sick. You haven't received anything.

Speaker 1:

I haven't received shit. They obviously saw the application and threw it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this one. Oh my God, no way, hold on. I think it closes off in July. Oh, does it? So it's still time, if you get it.

Speaker 1:

It, I want to play small, I want to play small, I want to play small.

Speaker 2:

You're going to play small. What the fuck? I was like how good is that going to be? I can ride that wave.

Speaker 1:

I'd win it and I'd be like that person that gets up on the stage and goes, yeah, like sticking the finger up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, motherfuckers, Ride Right for as long as you can. That's it. I think I was nominated for a show here in 1974. I'll win it, I'm going to win it.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, I'm going to win the award. I won't let it happen.

Speaker 2:

They're playing too small.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I wouldn't give it to them, like this guy's going to fuck shit up they just told you.

Speaker 2:

I said about women what's he done?

Speaker 1:

by educating them, but little to no cost little to no cost, doing out of the goodness of his heart this was ages ago.

Speaker 2:

That is so funny. You just reminded me of it then. That is so good. How funny. If you get it now, you're going to laugh, oh man.

Speaker 1:

I'll probably delete. I'll probably have got it and probably deleted the email. Yeah, I totally did.

Speaker 2:

I reckon it would have been spare. I was just like George Buzz Australia.

Speaker 1:

Okay, cool, it's just like that guy. Well done, you are entrepreneur of the world's top 10 entrepreneurs to follow top 10 influencers to follow on Forbes. That's real, isn't it Shit? I'm going to undelete that email. Better unblock those people. That's the other thing I do. I always block those emails, very, very.

Speaker 2:

You've got to keep a clean inbox. It keeps a clear mind.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I block a lot of emails on purpose. For that reason Recently not recently over the last year I unsubscribe to everything Me.

Speaker 2:

I'm like the master unsubscriber. I will if they don't have an unsubscribe to everything Me. I'm like the master unsubscriber, I will. If they don't have an unsubscribe button, I will email them. Unsubscribe me. Stop sending me shit, it's off. I'll report you. Yeah, to who, mr?

Speaker 1:

Internet. Yeah, get it, daddy. He's a doozy, that one. But even then I still get like. I wake up to my inbox every morning and it's just like how many emails yeah, it's heaps man, how many every morning if I leave it go for a day.

Speaker 2:

So first thing, in the morning when you wake up, there's at least 30 there. Fuck. You wake up to 30 emails every day at least what are you doing? Don't fuck around, huh, don't fuck around, huh. I'm sending a lot of emails. What time do you check emails? How do you not stress? How does that not stress you out?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I delete. I don't read off, I just file no.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so you're like copied into stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I get copied into a lot of shit.

Speaker 2:

Okay, there's not stuff you need to do.

Speaker 1:

I'll skim over it. Oh, not always. Sometimes I'll skim over it because I know which ones are. A lot are from employees just copied in. Some are from clients. Yeah, you sort that out.

Speaker 1:

I delegate very well. That's something I've been really good at. That helps with my stress. So if I had to do everything, that would drive me wild, I'd be wild. Yeah, I wouldn't have enough hours in the day if I had to do everything. So I delegate a lot to my employees and go hey, do this, sort this out. Like literally before we got into this podcast, I had to do this one task. And then Simon walked in and I go actually, here, you go, sort that out. Yeah, thanks for coming, that's it, but that just saved me half an hour. Come in here, do this, rather than me sitting there and do that task for half an hour. And it's something he's very well capable to do and it's going to be a great benefit because once he does it, then I can do this next thing which I need to do. So, yeah, I love delegating. I used to hate it, but I love doing it. It up, yeah, and I was sitting there. I was like fuck if I just did this myself. If I just did this myself.

Speaker 2:

That is a toxic thought. Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, I'll just fucking, I'll do it myself. It'll be so much easier. I'll do a better job, that's right.

Speaker 1:

If I just to be sitting here now and doing it all again and it's taking me twice as long because I have to fix his fuck up. I've seen that thing in that and I also thought, yeah, but if I taught him how to do it properly the first time, it was completely my fault.

Speaker 2:

But so I meant that then I wouldn't have to sit here and do it everything. Yeah, hey, that's another thing with stress take responsibility, bang on fucking dude. You know, when something's gone wrong, you're like, hey, can I do anything about this? If I can, okay, let's do that thing, and if I can't, well what am I waiting for?

Speaker 1:

did I cause this? Hey, what can I do like? Did you cause it? Rest review and um reward. Reward that's not reward yourself in that, relax, relax. So you gotta rest, like review what you've done, review, okay, okay. How does this, how did this become an issue right here, right now? How what has happened leading up to it? Is it something I've done, yes or no? And if it's not well, could I have avoided it by sending an email or doing something about it? Yes, or could I? Well then, yeah, it's my fault.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, and then. Okay, what am I going to do so it doesn happen again? That's right. It's like a very logical pathway of thinking yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm a very logical being. Especially over the last few years, I've always been a logical person. Kill me with logic. If you want to win an argument, show me the facts. Yeah, cool, you're right, and I reckon that helps a lot with stress, because if you can look at something logically, and it's you're right, and I reckon that helps a lot with stress. You mean Because if you can look at something logically and it's irrefutable that this is the reason that it's happened or this is the reason why it's happening or this is the reason it's going to end, okay, yeah, that's it. That's facts, let's move on. Yeah, why are we going to dwell on this Speed? Speed is another thing. Like Eat the Frog, have you read that book? Yeah, yeah, I haven't, but I know the concept behind it. Yeah, so Eat the Frog.

Speaker 1:

Do that difficult thing at the start of the day. It's a very small book. Yeah, look, even special. Yeah, I'll check it out. But do that thing. Don't avoid it, because problems delayed are problems intensified. The longer you leave it, the bigger a problem it can become. Now sweep this one under the carpet. I'll deal with it next week, next month, next year. Do it now. Do it now. If you do it now, it's probably not a big issue, whereas if you do it in six months' time, okay, now it's a big issue. That difficult conversation, that thing that's going to cost you money. Well, it might cost you a little bit of money now, but a lot later you decide, because you keep sweeping it under the carpet and want to do something that's easy, that brings you instant gratification. Yeah, that can often cause distressful situations in the future 100% Eat the frog.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever eaten a frog? No, I haven't. Actually. Have you 100%. Repeat the frog. Have?

Speaker 1:

you ever eaten a frog? No, I haven't actually. Have you ever eaten a snail? No, I haven't done that either. It's horrible, is it? I can imagine it not being pleasant. I don't even know why people do it. I've had French cuisine once and I didn't love it. Who was?

Speaker 2:

I talking to the other day and I was like what's it called when something's a like a particular cuisine? It's a like a particular cuisine, it's a delicate delicacy. And then I was saying this to someone the other day and I was like, hey, this is a delicacy, let's try it and they're like. But if it's a delicacy, that means it tastes like shit. That's why they call it a delicacy, because no one can eat it except for these people. That's a good point.

Speaker 1:

Like that is a solid point because most delicacies you could have styles on the carnival diet A hundred percent you could.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you could. That's definitely an animal, barely an animal, scraping the bottom of the barrel or the bottom of the shell. He's here all week. He was here. He is here all week. It's not pleasant. Yeah, I haven't had it before. It is here all week. It's not pleasant, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I haven't had it before. It doesn't taste nice. Oh look, I've got no great desire to go out and have it either. I was just in.

Speaker 2:

France, France. I was like you know. Skip parsley in Paris, Just give it a whirl.

Speaker 1:

So, as well as being in business, you are inherently going to have stressful situations as well. So don't think day one when we're going to start the business, everything's going to be rainbows and lollipops. It's not.

Speaker 2:

You're definitely going to have stressful situations in business even in life, I think business is one of the best teachers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't agree more, Jerry I think how much you will develop as a human because of business is phenomenal. Everyone should start a doubt. I couldn't agree more, Jerry. I think how much you will develop as a human because of business is phenomenal. Everyone should start a business. Just give it a crack. Some people don't have it in them.

Speaker 1:

They don't, but at least, as you said, they'll learn some lessons. They'll learn that it's not in them to, but they weren't in business.

Speaker 2:

Learning is an ability. Some people have this. Two people can have the same experience. One can learn, one cannot, yeah. So some people don't learn from that. Some people want to blame. I wish you could run a bit. I I could never dude. I'd be the best fucking employee. Man. I say that all the time, dude. I thought I was the best employee, but now like, oh fuck, dude, like it's a whole, you know what I mean it's like. And then you think why can't they think like me? And then you think, well, makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because even when I was an employee, I thought I was always. I always got promoted real quick and also got the better projects, you know, when I was working for other companies and that's because yeah, I genuinely bled, you know, for other companies and that's because I genuinely bled for the company. This is me. I took a person I wanted the company to do well. I saw the success of the company was the success of me and I think that mindset got me promoted really well, got me the great jobs, got me everything that I needed across my career path until it got to that point where I was like no, I've got to do this by myself or on my own. And if you're an employee and you're listening to this podcast, have the healthy competition with everyone else in the room. Just be better than them. Dude, go that extra 5%. You don't even need to do a lot.

Speaker 2:

That's easy to win that game, that's the easy game.

Speaker 1:

It's so easy to win and it's so beneficial for you and your career. Trust me, I promise you, I promise you, I promise you. I promise you Just get to work half hour before everyone else or even better, get to work before your boss. Does you watch how much you're going to fucking?

Speaker 2:

progress. Even that is a lot. You don't even have to do that much, just get to work 15 minutes early and be happy.

Speaker 1:

Don't even do it, because, oh, you know, I'm doing this for a reason, just do it, you just reminded me Watch what happens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just reminded me of something I used to. So I went to Mercedes for seven years Mercedes-Benz in Melbourne and shout out, shout out to the whole service team at Mercedes-Benz. He was a sponsor of Merck. Yeah, he was Sponsor a Merc. Yeah, give us a Merc. Are you going to buy a Merc? By the way, are you Very close?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, oh, is it the one you were saying the other day? Let's go, yeah. Does it have two extra cylinders Than a V6?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes, sick.

Speaker 1:

Maybe Possibly Okay.

Speaker 2:

But Back to what I was saying, I used to do that and they had a big, Actually, when I was working there. This was a long time ago. I know it's like now, but the culture wasn't great. It was like hey man, 4.06, I'm out. We used to finish at 4.06.

Speaker 1:

4.06?.

Speaker 2:

That's a weird time. Yeah, because six minutes a day across the week gave you half an hour on the time sheet, so you had to start at 8 and finish at 4 or 6.

Speaker 1:

Weird thing, hang on. It gave you half hour. What Half hour of time To do what.

Speaker 2:

So it was so that you would end up with 38 hours, not 37. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had to do 38 hours a week. So to do your 38, you had to do an extra six a day Weird. Anyway, that was the first job, last job, last job. I was in to do that, but I used to be good mates with the guy one of the guys there who was the workshop controller. The workshop controller is a person who hands out jobs, so they manage all the jobs coming into the workshop. Oh, I can manage them all.

Speaker 2:

As in for the cars coming in, for all the cars coming in for service. Yeah, he makes sure he gives the jobs out to each person. You're doing the trans and I was good Wheels, good mate of him and I would be like I could be packed up ready to go and he would get like a last minute tire change and I'd be like on my way out, dude shoulder on, like backpack on my shoulder but walking to clock off, and he'd be like hey, can you do a tire? And I would just look at him and I saw something like yeah, sure, whatever. Like you know what I mean, I was trying to like I'd do the extra bit. A couple of years later, lindsay Fox brings in his SLR McLaren to get serviced. Guess who gets the job? Me, absolutely, you do. He's like dude above everybody. He's like everyone knew the car was there, like salespeople were everywhere. It was a full on thing, got towed in. It had Hawaiian plates. I got photos of it and it wasn't because you were mates with him.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it was because you helped me and I helped you. When he needed the extra work done, I'd stay back when he needed the dude.

Speaker 1:

I could have easily said dude, I have to go fucking left and my hands are clean, I've washed my hands easily called him up that next day or on the weekend, said oi, when you see the backpack on my shoulder, don't fucking look at me, don't make eye contact. Oh yeah, I didn't even because you were mates with him so you could have had that conversation.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? Yeah, but I didn't. He. I understand that his job was to get the shit done. That was a stressful position to be in at the end of the day and you knew no one attire is the worst thing. It's like the lowest. Yeah, you just clean yourself, yeah, and it's like the lowest thing and I'd do it. I'd be like, yeah, sure, like I'd no, I'll help you whatever you do. Yeah, I can do ot tonight.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, yeah, are you keen? And I bet you, every single person that didn't get the mclaren was like oh, there's one rob baron dude, one mclaren the whole seven years yeah but the only, but everyone else there that wanted to work on that McLaren, every single one of them, I guarantee you. Oh, robbie just got that because they're mates. Oh sure, robbie gets that.

Speaker 2:

I was a superstar in that workshop. Huh, I was a superstar in that workshop.

Speaker 1:

No, but aside from that, the reason is they would have been blaming everything else. Yeah, probably. Why didn't you? Because you're the one that didn't go that extra yard. Yeah, you, because you're the one that didn't go that extra yard. Yeah, you didn't get paid that extra ten dollars that you should have got paid over that. So why am I staying?

Speaker 2:

and it's that silently quitting mentality, which I think is a fucking joke, um, but it's a real thing though yeah, yeah, 100 it is.

Speaker 1:

I believe there's people out there that are like that, without a doubt yeah, they've mentally checked out yeah yeah, people are mentally checked out of life.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I am my lifestyle exactly this is what I mean you're.

Speaker 1:

If you're acting like that in your in a business role, in an employee role, I guarantee this. I mean there's aspects of that in your own day-to-day life as well, where you're checking out where you're like oh I'm only going to be this.

Speaker 2:

Good, I'm only going to be this good. You act as the way you act in all areas. Some things you take more seriously because it's a priority now, yeah, but your ability, like the way you do one thing is the way you do everything. You know if you're half-assed this, you're half-assed most things, all the things that you're not paying attention to yeah, do you know what I mean? And it's like build the right habits around that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so true, so true. But I love that story, man, I love that story Just Sick car. Yeah, that'd be cool. What an experience Like if you're a mechanic, and that's what you enjoy and that's what you love, that's what you'd be wanting to work on.

Speaker 2:

There's like four people watching me dude oh, that's funny. Yeah, funny, like dude. What were you doing? Just changing tires, change the oil? Oh, just changing the oil, yeah, and the kids drive it. Or just in and out of the workshop? Yeah, there's a left-hand drive cars, oh was it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, hawaiian plates on it, dude on all of it. Yeah, cool, that's awesome. Um, yeah, I'm just trying to think where I've had that scenario. The only thing that I can think of in my own role was a couple times when I was working at some bigger companies. This is when I was back at Abbey Group. There was an office full of probably 30 people.

Speaker 1:

I would have been mid-20s, like 24, 25. Yeah, mid-20s, like 24, 25. And I reckon I would have been in the office at 7 am every single day. Every single day. I'd often be the one that opened the office. That's how I was. Know the alarm code. Yeah, like, I was often the one that opened the office. Sometimes my boss was there or the project director was there before me, but every day when I walked, when I drove I'd say nine out of 10 days my car would be in the car park and he would come in after me. So he would always see that every single day. And as a result of seeing that all the time, I got that promotion ahead of all the other people that were my age and at that role you're semi-junior type person in a business like that and I got that promotion to that next level first.

Speaker 2:

Dude, you know what else that does when you're not there or when, like in my example, if I'm walking out and he says, hey, can you do this, and I say, bro, I actually can't, there's no hesitation. Yeah, they're like, come, like, come on, man, fuck this guy. But yeah, it's like he probably genuinely can't. Yeah, because he would have done it otherwise. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And it builds that level of acceptance. I guess that are you like? You know what I mean that? No, no, they know you. Like your reputation is, you would have done it. You, you know what I mean. We know that if you could, you would, because in the past you have, yeah, you know, and it kind of gives you a ticket out for when you do need to go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, hey, mate, you know for a fact that if I could have done this, I'd do this 99% of the time. Today I can't, and they're cool with it. You know. They're like, hey, he does this most of the time. Let's find some other fucker who does it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, let's give them this, but that's the other thing. Well, dude, if you're late, if you're in your situation like one day, if you rock up half an hour late, do you reckon he's going to sit there? Hey, what the fuck is this? He's not going to sit there. Okay, cool, like must have been, something must have happened. Yeah, you slept in, whatever it might be.

Speaker 1:

And even from the other perspective. Let's look at another example of that. The boss has a shit job and he knows it's a shit job. He's going to call Do you know what I mean? He's going to to robbie, yeah, yeah, they're like oi, samantha, come here, I've got a job for you. Seeing as you're rocked up at fucking 8 30 this morning on the afternoon shift eight afternoon afternoon shift I am, um, yeah, here. I need you to count how many highlighters are in fucking storage.

Speaker 2:

Go and then counting me in.

Speaker 1:

That's it so, yeah, putting in a little bit more effort definitely take you a long way as an employee and lead to more stressful scenarios in your life, which you want, which will make you a better person make you a better person and level up.

Speaker 2:

that's that's why business makes people better. It's the stress of it. Yeah, do you? I mean yeah, if you did not need any money, very few people would play business at the level they do, like, take it as seriously at the start anyway. Do you know what I mean? Like some people still would, because it's kind of game-like. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but most people probably wouldn't, and I think the fact that they're in a situation of need it causes them to put themselves in situations where they level up. Just from experience. You know what I mean Got burnt by this, got done by that, fucked up here, learned here or did the same thing three times and learned, or whatever it might be for your situation. But business is a stressful but amazing experience damn straight on that.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a good way to wrap it up, good way to wrap it up, for sure. So, um, stop fucking stressing, stop stressing. That's just more. Yeah, as you know, we want more stress, don't we Stress? But don't stress. Stop stressing about stress. You know what, dude? Don't. Stop stressing about stress.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's gonna come Embrace it.

Speaker 2:

I kinda like the little bit of pressure.

Speaker 1:

Oh, without a doubt. They say pressure Makes diamonds. Yeah, without a doubt, you need it. It's good. I agree, it pushes you. The more stress you have in your life, then I think, as I said, it's a direct correlation to your wealth and success, because if everything's easy, then how are you challenging yourself, how are you becoming a bigger and better person each time? Business, life, whatever it is, comfort's a killer. Comfort's a killer. Comfort's a killer. Comfort's a killer. Comfort is a killer. Yeah, do you know what else will kill you? What when you don't subscribe? That'll kill you. That'll kill you. It's a great way to have more stress in your life, isn't it? Because if you're not learning the lessons that you're getting through this podcast and you're not implementing into your life, it's going. You know what? Damn straight. That's what I need to do when I get into a stressful situation Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, turn this on, share it with your mother, share it, share.

Speaker 2:

Why would you share it? Why wouldn't you? If you share it with your mum, I want you to tell me I want your mum to call Robbie, get your mother to call me, get her to call it and say g'day, and we'll send her a T-shirt.

Speaker 1:

T-shirt, I like it. Thanks a lot, guys. As always, same time, same place. Every Wednesday, you get your podcasts here with Million Dollar Days, and you know what we love it.

Speaker 2:

Fucking love it we do. It's sick. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1:

Peace out, peace out.

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