Million Dollar Days
Welcome to Million Dollar Days with Robby Choucair & George Passas. Your go-to podcast for a deep dive into the world of Life and Business Mastery.
Join hosts Robby Choucair and George Passas, a dynamic marketer and a seasoned Entrepreneur, as they navigate through an array of intriguing topics ranging from the everyday to the extraordinary.
Robby brings his marketing expertise to the table, offering insights into the latest strategies and trends. George, with his extensive experience in business, provides a grounded, practical perspective. Together, they explore everything from the feasibility of alien existence to effective goal setting, and even the nuances of religion.
Million Dollar Days is not just about business acumen; it's an exploration of life's many facets, wrapped up in conversations that are as enlightening as they are entertaining.
Tune in and be part of our journey, where every day is a million-dollar day, filled with learning, laughter, and the pursuit of mastery.
Million Dollar Days
The Power of Perspective
George and Robby explore the concept of fulfillment and what it truly means to live a satisfying life. Drawing inspiration from some of the world’s most successful individuals, they discuss how true happiness often comes from the simple things rather than the grand achievements. The episode kicks off with a story about a wealthy individual who finds joy in the simple act of making his morning coffee, leading to a broader discussion on what really brings contentment.
Ever wondered what it feels like to walk into a car dealership on a whim and drive out in a brand-new Ranger Platinum? George shares his electrifying experience of doing just that, highlighting the thrill and freedom that financial stability has brought into his life. Reflecting on their journey from careful budget considerations to spontaneous splurges, Robby and George dive deep into the psychology behind such decisions and the sheer joy of realizing long-held dreams. They also look ahead to future ambitions, like owning a supercar, and how these milestones shape our sense of gratitude and achievement.
As they conclude, George and Robby reflect on their own experiences and how they have learned to find balance between ambition and contentment. They encourage listeners to focus on what brings them true fulfilment, whether it’s in their personal lives, careers, or hobbies. This episode is a thought-provoking discussion that challenges the conventional notions of success and happiness, offering valuable insights into living a more fulfilling life.
Life's good, huh.
George:Life is good. You know, I bought a car today, as I told you.
George:I heard yeah, I called you and it was like you know what. It was a no-brainer in the sense that I didn't have to think, oh, can I get this car? Can I afford it? I had no. When I woke up this morning I had no intention of buying a new car. I was literally in a a. I was checking out a venue for a training. I got coming up I was about a 10 minute drive from a dealership. Like fuck it, I'll go in. Had a chat to him, said hey, I want to buy this car. Saw the bloke there as he goes what do you want? I'll go want this, this I'm going to trade in that let's go. Within 45 minutes. Bought a new car and left how good yeah, but what'd you buy?
George:I bought a. I just bought a new car and left how good, yeah, what'd you buy? I just bought a new Ranger. I upgraded my car, not just sorry, let me rephrase that, I purchased a brand new Ranger Platinum, so the top of the range, one that you can get. And I walked in there I said this is what I want.
George:He goes I don't have any in stock. When are they coming in Mid next month? I go do you have it in black? He goes yes, I'll take that. Thanks, really quick transaction.
George:Yeah, negotiated a little bit with him I said listen, I'm not going to fuck around with you. I actually said that to him, just like that. So I'm not going to fuck around, I go. I know what I want, as long as it's fair and reasonable. Feel like I. This will be the easiest transaction you're going to have all month. Just look after me. Yep, no worries.
George:Anyway, on my way home, I was thinking grateful. I practiced a bit of gratitude. I had no intention of waking up this morning and buying a car, but I'm at that point in my life where I just walked in, bought the car, thought nothing of it. The price is the price made the transaction, drove home done, bought the car, thought nothing of it. The price is the price, made the transaction Throwback Done. Whereas 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, whenever it was like, oh man, I can't afford that car, I've got to save up before I can go do that, I've got to make sure I'm a physician. Can I borrow that much? Can I do this? Can I do this? Can I do this? Was now it's like no, no it's good what am I fucking around for?
George:um, and it was a bit of a fist bump moment the fact that I could just do that now. I bought, I just bought another. Just I bought another ranger. I could have gone out and bought a different car. It's like a more prestigious car look, for me it's just practicality. At the moment I like the car. It's not like I don't like the car. I was actually looking at a. Did you drive one? No, just yours. Yours was the only one I've ever driven.
Robby:Yeah, dude, you're going to love it. It is such a good car, Just comfortable, practical. Tried to take my tow bar off yesterday. Couldn't get it off.
George:You should have called me. I was like, oh, where's my phone? I was going to buy an Audi. Actually, I was going to buy an Audi, an SQ8. So a V8, probably a $180,000 car. And I was like you know what, from a practical point of view, where I'm at what I'm doing in my life, I don't need that car. You know what I mean. So I want to. I said no, I'm just going to go get just. I keep saying just I'm going to get another Ranger because that's what's suiting me right now. And then, down the track, if I want to go get another car, so be it, I will, but for the time being, this is the car I'm getting.
Robby:Do you think you keep saying just because?
George:I. I think I know why, but go Go why? I reckon it's because I'm I keep. I have a bigger ambition. I love cars, I'm a car enthusiast and my intent is to be driving a supercar in the near future.
Robby:So I think that's probably why I'm saying just but also, do you think that is in line with your ability to? I'm sat there, oh yeah, ford dealership, new model, I'll go in, and 45 minutes later you bought one. Yeah, because it is just yeah. Yeah could be In your mind, yeah could be. Whether it is or isn't Like dude, I'll say openly yeah, I bought my Ranger. How long had it for? A?
George:month, four weeks, yeah.
Robby:Yeah, it's the most expensive car, but if, when you're dreaming of this, like that's your yeah, that's your North star, yep, this becomes like not to say that you don't appreciate it or you don't, but it becomes like it's less of a decision, whereas if you were buying the Audi, you might've sat there. Let me let me just weigh it all up, like let me just digest, let me let me just process everything and then I'll pull the trigger. I really think there was a lot of that.
George:Whereas that's why?
Robby:because your mind is there mentally yeah. That's why you keep saying just yes. I couldn't agree more.
George:That is definitely exactly where I'm at. I'm a psychologist, you look like one, I'm a psychologist, yeah so, but at the same token, on the drive home, I was like fuck, life is good. How many people can say that they're in that position now where they can just go and buy a significant purchase like that without ever thinking about it? Yeah, so that made me think. Well, imagine in the next few years where we're going to zagami and we're going yeah, cool, what color? That one, I want it in pink. Do you have it in pink? He's like yeah, I can get one.
Robby:all right, cool, get it oh oh, black white, black white. I'll take both like why not? I can't decide, it's all relative, you can't decide.
George:It's all relative though, isn't it? Yeah, let's think about it. There's multi hub. Okay, I did a training on the weekend, yeah, and one of the guys that was there that was a builder. He was doing some carpentry work for zagami, but for the look, I'm guessing mr zagami, his kid all right, he's not, not a dealer, not the dealer, the actual person, yeah, all right. So zagami's son, or whatever it is, and he goes. He was doing some work on his ranch, okay, building frank. 18. Frank his name, 18. Frank his name.
Robby:Yeah, I've fucking got no idea. No idea, it just sounds like Frank. It sounds like Frank. See, if your Frank fits, we're going to call him Frank. Get the cars ready.
George:Frank, we're coming. Yeah, warm it up, don't put K's on it, just warm it up speaking to him, nice guy, all that sort of stuff. And he goes, yeah, 18 car garage, mind you. Yep, 18 car garage at his ranch. And he's talking to him. He goes yeah, I'm accepting delivery next week of a two million dollar car. This is his own car now.
George:And he's like he goes oh well, you got the builder. There was like, oh man, that's amazing. So yeah, he's gonna be honest. He goes. They mean nothing because I look at all these cars and they don't do anything for me. He goes. I see them every day. He goes. It's no excitement to me. I'm getting a $2 million car. Okay, cool, it's a nice car, it's another vehicle to me and it's interesting. That made me say two things. One, the fact that he was thinking like that shows me that he probably doesn't have that level of fulfillment in his life that he probably needs. He's not getting that. Wow, I get to drive this car or anything like that. And two, was that whole relative thing? You know, to him, if you've got hundreds of millions of dollars, what does it mean to go and spend $2 million on a car or have a car collection worth $20, $30 million. Is that how rich they are? I?
Robby:don't know. I'm just saying Don't be like to have a ranch 18-car garage. Yeah, I believe so Like 18-car garage, fucking big garage dude.
George:Big garage, and if you've got one of 10 Lambos, yes, you've got the point, do you?
George:know what I mean. But look, maybe it's a tax write-off for them as well. The same token, who knows, maybe the until they got 5,000 Ks and then sell them. Fuck, if I know, just saying regardless for them it's not a big decision to do that. Same with me, it wasn't a big decision to go buy a brand new $80,000 car. I just went and did it. Yep, I haven't even told my wife yet. I'm going to go home and say, by the way, got a new car sold, this one, got a new one. See what I mean? I haven't even told her yet. So it's, I look at that and go well, that's completely relative to my position, right?
Robby:now I think it's also a business. It's a business decision, oh yeah, that's a hundred percent. Like you wouldn't have told her when you bought the LDVs Like maybe I didn't.
George:Yeah, yeah, I didn't, I did.
Robby:I said I've got sports car. I'm sure you would be like oi.
George:Yeah, like I was going to go buy a Porsche. I don't know if I'd surprise her or if I'd take her along with the journey.
Robby:Yeah, but so even that element, the fact that you want to surprise her, says enough, like in the sense of her opinion matters.
George:Oh yeah, absolutely it does I.
George:I don't know it's her dream car yeah, so that's part of like when I gave her her current car. She's always wanted that car, like a um the discovery that she's got and I surprised her with it. It was actually pretty cool. I don't know, did you see the video that I put up? Yeah, so the video for the context, for everyone watching or listening. I she had a previous generation, or sorry, previous shape discovery and I upgraded it to the new top of the range one, so it was still the actually the still it was the same key. It was the same. Yeah, same key, same body shape, like it was the current model, just the updated model, so it's different series it's different.
Robby:Inside it's different.
George:Yeah, the interior is different was updated model, new engine, everything like it's the top of the range version of that car. She's like always loved it. She wanted it in black, all that sort of shit anyway. So I parked the new car next to her car. So hers was gray, the new one is black. I parked it next to it and she went out that morning. She goes oh, she calls me. She asked george, I'm like what she's like. There's a, she goes someone's. Okay, what are the chances? Someone parks the car I want next to our car and it goes and they've parked in our spot. What? How fucking annoying is that?
Robby:how did you, how did you find the time to park the car without her?
George:wait, wait. I bought the car. Remember we were in brisbane. No, queensland, queensland, no, no, queensland, no. Yes, queensland At a training, wasn't?
Robby:it all the way.
George:No, you were crewing there A leadership train. It was a leadership. No it wasn't, it was a life training. Life training, yeah, yeah, yeah, ah, yeah, we were there. I came off the plane. That was the start of last year. Fuck that long ago. Yes, what the fuck. I had this same conversation the other day. Start of last year, march. It was March last year.
Robby:Fucking hell, dude. I know.
George:So I flew. I got home from the airport, drove to the western suburbs, met the guy, picked the car up then drove it home. I had to the western suburbs, met the guy picked the car up then drove it home. I had to drive it around the corner, then got up early in the morning, put it in my spot, moved my car out the way, put it in my spot and left it there. Then what I did is I knew she was going somewhere that morning my daughter had a birthday, so I swapped the two keys on her car. Then, when she went to the car, she tried to unlock her car and it wouldn't unlock because the key wasn't registering. So what she ended up doing was she was like yelling at me. She says, george, like what the fuck? I don't have the time, Can you? The key's not working. I said, of course the key's working. She's like no, it's not. She's like press the unlock button and she unlocked, she pressed it.
George:It was a cool surprise. So, yeah, I was going to like I want to do something similar when I get her a Porsche as well. But then I thought, you know, it would also be cool to go to the dealership, let them unbox it. You know, we'll take the cover off it whatever it might be, because that's her dream car. And yeah, I want to do that one day too. So, yes, it does matter. Life is good. Life is good, buddy. Life is good. It's just stages, it's just the time before the time.
Robby:So why do you think old mate Zagami wasn't happy with his character?
George:Look, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, maybe he just didn't have that. As I said, if you're going to be judgmental from that perspective, maybe it is just a story.
Speaker 3:So there was a therapist who was doing therapy for a millionaire, so he was in the same position of not being happy with everything, and they were searching about what makes you happy, and if it's whatever he buys, if it's his family or whatever it is. And the only point that he said like he feels the most calm and happy is when he does his own coffee in the morning. So it's like a very simple thing that gives joy in life yeah like.
Speaker 3:For me it is like when I'm learning stuff, I'm learning to play squash. Now that is the most fulfilling thing I've ever done ever for, like in the recent like year. Okay, and I bought a 3d printer. Now I'm learning about like 3d stuff, sculpting and everything like that. It's like every time I'm learning stuff rather than just getting an object, I get happy.
George:Yeah without yeah, without a doubt, and I think that's important yeah, fulfillment is the key. That's what it is, I think at that level, Because when you start making I think it was Andrew Tate said it he goes. Once you get to like 20 mil, there's not much you can't buy.
Robby:Do you know what I mean? You know what else he also said? Yeah, having stuff is not fun. Yeah, having stuff is not fun. Yeah, getting stuff is fun. Yeah, enjoying the journey, yeah, the process of it, getting stuff is the fun, and it's true. Look, it's true to some degree. Like I was, I wasn't that excited about getting the car, to be honest. Yeah, probably because I wasn't focused on it to the position of getting there. Like, I wasn't like hit this point and I'll get a car. Yeah, I just got put in a position where I need to buy a car. Yep, and it's not a dream car, yeah, but I was like, yeah, whatever, like it's practical, right, um, but it's.
Robby:I think it's the, the focus on the progress. I think progress is the key. You know what I mean. Like, even with learning something, you don't get happy once you've done it. You get happy along the way because you start to get better at it. It's not like, hey, I'm perfect at this now. Now, I'm happy, yay. Or even when you lose weight, like if you're trying to lose 10 kilos, you don't only get happy when you hit 10. You get happy when you hit 10, but you get happy when you lose three and then you lose two more and you're happy. It's the progress. Yeah, it's the. It's the feeling of moving in the direction you want to go with something.
Robby:Yes, do you know what I mean? It's the feeling of, okay, this is going around and and someone like that dude, like we've shared this I think we've spoken about this once, but it's like you know, when you don't, when you're broke, that your core thing, that you everything is like. Oh, for me it was. Everything was like dude, just gotta get money, just gotta get money, just gotta work, just gotta get money, just gotta do overtime, whatever it takes, like get money, yeah, and then eventually you get to the point where you got a bit of money and then you feel the same and then you're like, what's gonna fix this? Now? I had this one thing I thought was gonna fix this the whole time. Do you know what I mean? Um, and working out what that next step is. That guy, I think it would be hard to have everything in life. Have you seen?
George:uh, dan bilzerian what he's doing now no, he stopped everything.
Robby:All the hedonism, like doesn't do that stuff, bunch of girls, doesn't do any of that anymore. Yeah, what's he does like he's like I, just I, it became normal and he talks about how was that?
Robby:on patrick bett david's he's been on a few different people. I watched him on um chris williamson's oh okay, I haven't seen that one or heard it and he talks about how, if this is the peak, so he goes. I was too focused on getting to the peak really fast Because, dude, that was a business. You know that right. What they were doing was actually very, very structured and planned and they knew, like, okay, cool, we invest $20 million into making this activity happen with 20 models and blah, blah, blah. We can get so much reach and so much that we can then go find sponsors and advertisers and people who want to throw us money and they made a killing.
Robby:Just a good, really good business model, smart people, that's just what it is. But, yeah, he got to the point where he's like, like that stuff, didn't? He lived a life most men would look at and say that would be sick. Yeah, like that would be sick, he's dough, and. And then he said he goes like. He got to the point where I was just like, like again like again 20 girls today he's like, like and I couldn't be bothered.
Robby:He's like and what it taught him which touches on this whole thing and I think for the zagami guy, is he has. I think life is all about. This is the peak. How do I get there as slowly as possible so I can enjoy each step, each step? Do you know what I mean? So that I finish at the peak at the end of my life?
Robby:oh yes, not not get to the peak now, because I want to get to the peak in the next 10 years, because then you're going to drop. He's like if I could redo it again and only this was the peak, I wouldn't try and get there as far as I can, I would say, okay, cool, what is the longest route I could take that's going to make me get there, so that I can enjoy this whole journey as it goes, because we are so focused on the end thing, we are so focused on the yacht, the helicopter, the next thing, the next thing, the next thing, and it's like there is no next thing, there's now.
George:Yeah.
Robby:You know what I mean. There's now and that's it, because the reality is dude. Like you got up this morning, you went and bought a car. Someone didn't wake up this morning.
George:Yeah, you know what I mean. He could have sat there and've got a car tomorrow.
Robby:Yeah, didn't get up.
George:Yeah, person who had plans this morning died, yeah, yeah, no, it's like it's just enjoy your time while you're here enjoy your time part of the reason why I was on like, as I was on the way back from um, driving from the dealership, and I called you because I was listening to the podcast, to our podcast, and you were talking about your car. This is the podcast that I'm also subscribed to Million Dollar Days podcast.
Robby:You are?
George:Yeah, I'm actually subscribed to Million Dollar Days. Did you know that? How did you subscribe? I press, there's a button on the top right-hand corner, bang, and I press it and I subscribe and I'll press it and.
Robby:I'll subscribe. Yeah, and if you haven't worked it out yet, the button might not be in the top right-hand corner, but it's somewhere on the screen. It's definitely Work it out. Don't listen to him. Stop right now.
George:100% If you're driving Right hand. It's nowhere else. It is nowhere else. If you can't find it, then you are the problem and you need to sort listening to this?
Robby:where else, where else in your life you're not fighting with?
George:that's it. So I was listening to the podcast, which was funny because you were talking about your car and how you purchased it and like, oh, sick, it's come full circle, like, oh, I had to call him, just bought a car anyway, fun times, uh, busy, huh, busy, busy, busy. We just said now, like that training we went to was early last year and you're thinking, fuck, was it this year? Because I had to. I thought that was this year, I last year. And you're thinking, fuck, was it this year? Because I had to I thought that was this year.
George:I had the same conversation I thought fuck, when was it, was it this year, that I bought the car? No, can't believe it. It was nearly two years ago. All right, september. Yeah, we're still September by the time. This is yeah, this will be. Yeah, it's the end of september ish. So you got october, november, december, two and a half months before the end of the year, before christmas. What have you done? What are you going to do?
Robby:two months really, because once it's december it's all done and done. And if you're anything like me once the velvet cup comes yeah, yeah, I already say that as an employee. That's what you're like yeah, now I'll do that if I can. I didn't even get a Christmas. I was actually thinking, yeah, let's fucking this. I love this podcast. I was actually thinking about that this year because I was like why don't you subscribe? Later? It's um, are you subscribed?
George:just so I can subscribe. That's how much I love it.
Robby:I haven't had a holiday in a while, like when I was having a holiday in a while. When I say I haven't had a holiday, I went to Europe last year but I was working through it. That's been nice. Thanks, it was. It was beautiful.
Robby:And I was talking to someone and they're like you should come down to WA. It was really nice there. Come hang out for a couple of weeks. There's sharks there yes, there is. And in the water as well. Where there? Yes, there is. And, um, in the water as well. Uh, where was I going with that? Oh yeah, and then he's like why don't you just come down over christmas? Like, why don't you come down? Like you know what I mean, meet someone, and I'm like what the fuck am I doing? Usually I haven't said every time over christmas I usually take that time to plan and like plan out my next 12 months. And then I'm like it's interesting man, like what.
Robby:I wonder if I could do that, like I haven't even thought, I haven't even thought that far ahead and I'm like I wonder if now I could say okay, cool, we're gonna close up shop for two weeks, or we shut shop for from Christmas to New Year's, or do you know what I mean? I haven't done that yet and it's's like yeah, it's interesting. Do you normally you close shop, don't you?
George:Yeah, we close up shop every Christmas. For how long? Two to three weeks, but generally three weeks, yeah, so Christmas, that week of Christmas we'll shut down and then reopen, like the second or third week of January.
Robby:I also don't. I hate to conform.
George:Look, I do it from the. I actually like the break. I reckon it's the one time of the year I get to switch off a little bit because no one's calling me, none of the jobs are open. The only things I do are because I want to do them, not because they have to be done. So I feel that it's a bit of a relaxing time. It's Christmas presents, beer, beach, like take a ski out, like having fun. Do you know what I mean? Enjoying, enjoying the fruits of your labor. So I quite enjoy that time of the year. Melbourne's fun. During the summer period too, there's things to do, so I enjoy it.
Robby:And then we do go on a few holidays as well, interstate and whatnot I feel like it's a trap look, yeah, I know what you're saying from that perspective yeah, I feel like it's a great way to fall into normal life yeah, a lot of people do.
George:Yeah, that's that's why I don't. Do you hate that, like just to have that time, like it's not work, like it's a work-life blend. Do you know what I mean? Is it? What's the difference with you going on holiday mid-year, comparatively, just because everyone else is doing it during that time?
Robby:no, what do you mean?
George:What's the difference if you go on holiday in July for two, three weeks, whether going to holiday in Christmas or during Christmas time?
George:Why not do both? Yeah, why not? But if you only do one, what's the difference? You're still conforming by taking a holiday to a degree, aren't you Just enjoying the time off, having that balance and that zen in your life for that period of time? It doesn't mean you're conforming. You can still be working. You can still be pumping out ads and doing everything you got to do and working on systems. This is what I like about it, because the things that I work on are things that I want to work on. It's not like I have to process this payment because if I don't, the whole job's gonna stop, or I've got to make this phone call or order this material like there's none of that. It's no, no, I'm gonna work on this business system, I'm gonna write this new policy, I'm gonna look at structuring my next 12 months, my next holiday period. It's like all that short of shit. So anything I do, at the end of the day I enjoy it.
Robby:Not I hate I just I'm very conscious about not making sure I'm doing something because I want to do it.
George:Yeah, see, I've gone. I actually want to. Yeah, it's a good time Like my kids aren't at school, like at school holidays too, so I get to spend good time with them during that time, and the missus. So it's about us having, I like that period of the year Always have, even when I was an employee, when I had my own business. I enjoy it.
Robby:Yeah, I used to take holidays at that time every year. Oh yeah, cool, I used to put it in so early. I was the guy who used to slot all my annual leave in the perfect dates. Yeah, like, go takeay off in between melbourne cup, oh you probably you know what you should as an employee.
George:I don't see that as an issue, yeah you can end up getting, if you do it properly. There was a person that did this exercise like if you do it properly, yeah, you get for taking seven days off. You actually get, yeah, so much a month worth of holidays yeah, like that window between new year's and christmas and and then Easter as well. Similar thing.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, take those three days off like you can do it properly.
George:Yeah, so well. Good little segue into what I wanted to actually have a bit of a chat about. So last month, where are we? September, august, so in August 26th they brought in new workplace laws. So the Fair Work brought in the right to disconnect for employees. So in other words, meaning as an employer, you don't need to. So employees have a right to disconnect, meaning they don't need to respond to phone calls, emails, nothing, whilst they're outside of work hours.
Robby:What do you call the right to disconnect? Right to disconnect Fair work.
George:It's a real thing. Do you believe me?
Robby:No, I just want to make sure that we provide everyone listening enough information to keep them out of trouble.
George:What do you think about the concept, the right to disconnect? Yeah, so France have brought this in too. I think they're a little bit more strict with it. France is yeah, as in penalize employers if they do try to make contact with employees.
Robby:Yeah, so what do you know about it at the moment?
George:Look, I haven't deep dived into it, but from what I see it's just saying that employees are not obligated to answer emails, phone calls, anything after their work hour.
Robby:Okay, so here, right to disconnect Employees of non-small business employers. So small businesses deemed anything doing less than 10 mil. Employees of non-small business owners have the right to refuse to monitor, read or respond to contact or attempted contact outside their working hours unless doing so is unreasonable. This includes contact or attempted contact from an employer or a third party. So, basically, so, basically, I don't know Me personally. I have a rule with my team and I say hey, like I won't call you outside of workouts. If I call you outside of workouts, fucking answer because something's wrong. Do you know what I mean? Like there's something, something's gone wrong somewhere.
George:Yeah, but they don't have to hey. No, I'm not going to answer your call. Call me tomorrow.
Robby:So this is what that law states.
George:Yeah, if you say no, if I call you answer. You just said if I call you answer no, yeah.
Robby:But also, okay, let's work both ends of this right, because, yes, I get that and that would annoy the shit out of me and I say, no, I won't call you tomorrow. Matter of fact, I won't call you ever again because you're not working anymore. Yeah, yeah.
George:But also, I don't call them unless it's wrong, because I know there would be people who are much the opposite oh, without a doubt, and this is for the small minority, yeah, this is for the small minority of people that take advantage. This is, I think that's what this is coming for it is, but okay.
George:In the same token, right and this is what shits me there's also a not a small minority. There's a big portion of the workforce out there that wouldn't mind if you call them outside of hours. Well, don't mind answering phone calls or emails or anything outside of work hours.
Robby:But because do you know why? This doesn't say you're not allowed to? Yes, because you have the right to refuse. So if someone doesn't mind, yeah, they still do anyway, they still can't yeah yeah, do you think it breeds a bit of complacency in that space then? You don't think. Our life here in australia breeds complacency you had a doubt.
George:This is what I mentioned, like the other day. Yes, like the bar's here, man, it's not high. You can step over the bar these days, like, if you want to crush it in life, just fucking work 10 harder than everyone else and you will crush it. Do you know what I mean? Let those, let those people disconnect. Oh yeah, I'll write a refusal. I don't need to answer this. You know what? If your boss calls you, answer the fucking phone. If you want to progress in your career, hey, mate, well, yeah, good, this, this, then this and this, and this and this and this. Oh, yep, no worries, I'll get onto it tomorrow. You get people like that who do you think, like, at the end of the day, during tough times, is going to stick around the company, who that employer and you might say, oh, you know, they're not gonna. They're not gonna discriminate, fucking oath, they will as in who's the better performer of course they will 100 percent who's?
George:who do you reckon people think that they're not gonna say oh no, you can't discriminate just because I didn't answer my phone call at night. I'm not discriminating.
Robby:It's called performance.
George:No, no, no. You just say no, no, it doesn't matter. Regardless, they could argue that that's what I mean. These people, that's small-minded.
Robby:You reckon people think like that, I reckon the entitled people. So if I need to remove eight, yeah, I've recently read the Elon Musk oh, he finished it Kind of like I was. I read, listened. There's like 40 minutes left, yeah, of a 20 something hour book. Yeah, big book Dude, like they. The Twitter parts in there, everything, yeah, like it's up to date. It's very recent date, very recent, right? Um, anyway, he fired 75 on twitter. Love it, I absolutely love that. Yeah, he went in and just shook the dude. Took over a business that had 8 000 employees yeah, by the time he was not done, but by the time he was like on his third round of firing and down to like 2 000 running, especially so good, just removed 75 of his payroll. Yeah, 8,000 employees. Can you imagine how much money they were paying? Yeah, out. I mean, he's completely shaken it up.
George:That's what he did. He went in there and then he did something like oh, you can't fire me, yes, I can. Here's eight weeks leave. Shut the fuck up, do you know what I mean?
Robby:And just got rid of yeah, there was different strategies each time. Yeah, there was ones where he did things for you like that's, give me one.
Robby:I don't know, tell me, like, like they had a big thing and he knew that he was going to fire him but he had to wait until the particular bonus was paid so that they couldn't claim it. Oh, I guess, so him for it, yeah. And then there are someone asked him and he's like no, no one else gonna get fired and the next week bonus get paid for five, like the hell's people, like just doesn't. And then he said I actually didn't fire them, I actually assessed their performance and they weren't performing. So we moved them on. Yeah, like we didn't fire them, we did a performance review and they weren't meeting expectations.
George:We didn't just call them yeah, so he still protected himself. Dude, guy's smart, that's what I mean, not fucking around guy's smart mate, he. He was definitely definitely being discriminated Like he was well, not discriminated.
Robby:Yes, they were picking who they want to keep on. Who are the best A players? There's nothing wrong with that. I couldn't agree more. Who thinks there's something wrong with it?
George:No, I just reckon people would be feel hard done by. Oh well, just because he answered his phone call outside of hours, that's it probably. Yeah, even though he can't say that. He probably can't say yes. The reason he's keeping his job is because he answers my call at 7 30 pm.
Robby:That wouldn't be the only reason I know, but it's, but it's a reason like it's play on the. It's not that he answered the call. It's that he was there when we needed him. It's that he stepped up when he actually it's that he cared, it's that he was committed to your team and this.
George:This is my problem with this rule is it doesn't encourage any of that. It encourages entitlement. You can't call me after 5 pm. Who the fuck do you think you are? I have a life outside of here, but all the things that you just described are quality traits in just being a human being. Forget that. It's for work for a second. But what if you enjoy work?
Robby:There are people out there that enjoy their job. So quality traits are only quality traits, they're only valued Things are valued because there is a lack of it. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Someone who's born into a billionaire family doesn't care about anything. Yeah, someone who's broke cares because there's a lack. We don't care about people putting pants on, because everyone does it. Do you know what I mean? But if, like all of a sudden, people walking off no pants, you'd be like, hey, put your fucking pants on. And you'd be like, at least this bloke wears his pants. Yeah, do you know what I mean? So we care about what is missing. All the tools are gone.
George:this pants lost me at no pants, no pants.
Robby:Uh, we're, we're talking about people not caring about you. Oh yeah, exactly. The reason why we value those things is because there isn't many people doing them. That's right. If everyone did that, if everyone was an A player, you all of a sudden wouldn't value A players as much because you'd just be like there's another one, yeah. But then surely you're saying that's why you value good team members. Yeah, without a doubt, because that's Japan.
Speaker 3:That's the Japanese tradition in corporate, because everybody's the A player over there.
Robby:Yeah, also, japan is a great insight into certain things, like I love Japanese food, japanese culture.
George:I'm reading Ikigai at the moment, great book. Nearly finished it.
Robby:They take it to the extremes. They do take it to the extremes, and they've even gotten to the point now, did you know Japan's population has decreased by 5 million people over the last decade? No, yeah, because they're not reproducing.
Speaker 3:It is going to get decreased.
George:That's like 20%. Is the whole world population still on that? Not right now, but it is.
Speaker 3:Japan's number one on that.
Robby:Yeah, korea's behind it, yes yes, yes, south korea is behind it. Yeah, um, and it's a big problem because that is a trajectory that takes a long. It's like it's like losing weight that you do the push-ups now and you see the results later. So you need to have the kids now, because then people start dying across the aging thing and he actually talks about it in his book, elon Musk People need to be focused on making sure that humanity lives on, because eventually we're going to get to the point where, like Japan Japan don't, I think they have, for every two people, 0.7 people.
Robby:Are born or are being born yeah, so for every couple, the, the reproduction rate to stay the same. Every couple has two kids. That will keep everything at the same level. They're having 0.7, so they're having 33 percent of the amount. So they're headed backwards massively. You know, like massive, massive problem, and I think japan's a great because because they're so far advanced disadvantage of it we're gonna run out of humans in like a hundred years yeah, and there's also a major problem because the most of the population in japan is over 60 or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so every single policy every single policy that's coming out. It is directly to those old people, not to the young ones, and it's messing up the whole system.
Robby:Yeah, because they're targeting the masses.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the majority is old people and every single policy is for old people in Japan. And back to the topic about Japanese workforce, there's also the problem of working overtime. So what happens? Is that there yet? So the problem that's showing up is that because everybody's wasting too much time at work, yeah, the workplace becomes the family. Yeah, and if you get fired from the company, it's like you are getting disowned by your family, so no one hires you again, so you can never get fired. In japan, that is the biggest problem, and people are just spending too much time in their work and no family, and they don't give a fuck about their families.
George:That's right. And then they're not having kids, is it? Do you reckon the women, then, are also being encouraged to have that corporate life too? Because that's probably contributing to that whole aspect being that women are now encouraged to be doing having the corporate life, being a boss bitch going out there doing everything they're going to do, meaning they don't have kids till later in life or they don't have kids at all. I don't know. I don't know if the Western part has so Japan has has.
Speaker 3:So japan has mostly men's in the corporates. Yeah, so women are they're supposed to like? Look at their children.
George:That's about it. Yeah, it's still a cultural thing. Yeah, and well, that's interesting how you look at it. You know, yeah, you're gonna run out of people but it's a. Thing yeah, just I find it like very hard to comprehend. That's my brain, in my brain that's the problem.
Robby:And then, by the time people comprehend it, all of a sudden you're gonna to get to a point where the majority are starting to die off. Yeah, and then by the time you do something about it, it takes sort of and then it's going to take 20 years to start to get adults again coming through back, coming through again. And then all of a sudden, that 20 year period you had so many people drop off and now your society average age is young. There's no, like you know what I mean. There's no one leading. Yeah, there's. It's a big.
George:Everyone thinks they're a fucking cat.
Robby:Yeah.
George:Or a fucking pot plant, that's.
Robby:that's another problem.
George:That's another topic for another day, but anyway.
Robby:But yeah, so that's. I think we can learn from Japan. Did you mention Japan, or did you you did there's? We can learn from the mistakes that other people make as well, but it sounds like no one is.
George:Huh, Sounds like no one is. Yeah, you just said. But even there you're saying they're still making policy for the old people.
Robby:That's because they're trying to win. That's politics, dude they're trying to win the masses. Same way, Conor McGregor comes out and says that he loves Indian people.
George:Why does he say that?
Robby:Because it's just recently, did he? Yeah, does he? He put out a whole tweet, I don't know, but I think he's just playing the masses. Most populated country in the world. Let me go. If I have 2 billion people that love me, I'm going to be fine.
George:Yeah, go do a fight over there.
Robby:Yeah, like, if I've got this many people that absolutely adore me for who I am, then that's going to. I'm going to be endorsed by these people. You know what I mean? That's a big market, yeah, the Indian market, dude, not the most populated country in the world? Yeah, it's not fucking around. There's also estimations that Nigeria will become the second or third most world, I think, down like a hundred and something million now, and they're expected to be at a billion by the end of this century is that a third world country?
Robby:nigeria, yeah, yeah. So it's india, yeah, okay. So it's china. China's probably better than most, but they're not great. But you have a billion people, yeah, you have to feed them and stuff. You know what I mean? Like you gotta keep them alive.
Speaker 3:So china actually keeps themselves in like the third world, like developing country, on purpose. I don't know why it is, but there are like benefits by being a third world country, like a developing country yeah, the quality of life is not great, dude no, it's actually great. It's just that it's not china. He went have you been purposely keeps it like that? Yeah, no, but that's what I mean.
Robby:You just contradicted yourself because you said no, it is great, but they purposely keep it down. That's what I'm saying. It's not great. I'm not saying they're not on purpose doing it, but it's definitely not great. Like, the way most people live in China is not great. Do you know what I mean? But that feeds directly into what we're talking about here, because most people from china that come here are willing to. Yeah, except for the rich. Most people are willing to do what they got to do, to get to where they got to go.
Robby:But then when they've been spoon-fed or they grew up in a country where complacency is key and hey, where's all these laws to protect you? And now you're the employee, just like tenants, yeah, now you're the tenant, you know, you've got the right to stay here as long as you want, you don't have to pay rent, all that bullshit. Yeah, it's the exact same thing. And then they get complacent with it and then we end up with shit people and who aren't reproducing, and the world, whole world ended up going backwards. But if everyone was hard working, like in japan, you wouldn't value it yeah, they don.
Robby:They don't value. Are you going to do 12 hours? Is that all Half day today? Yeah, Like that's their mentality. Yeah.
Speaker 3:We'd end up in the exact same position if it wasn't for stuff like this. Australia's also dropping with birth rates.
Robby:Yeah, I believe that. Yeah, yeah, a lot of westernized countries are dropping with birth rates. Japan is one of the worst. Yeah, like there's no one, I think very few as bad as Japan, but like I think Australia's one point something. Yeah, meaning still, they're still not reproducing at the same level. Australia's population goes up because of immigration.
George:Well, mate, at this table, mate, you're going to start getting busy Me. Yeah, you're the only one not reproducing. He's only got one. You've only got one. I'm going to have 10.
Robby:Good, are you really?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Robby:Do you know Elon Musk got like eight kids.
George:Nine kids.
Robby:Yeah, did you know he had two kids with his sister? What Did you know?
George:that Don't say shit like that. I'm not kidding. Does he know it? Of course he knows it.
Robby:With his sister. Yeah, she did a sur thing and they used his sperm because he goes. Can I be the donor?
George:She was going to have a baby she was going to go get a sperm donor and he said can I be the donor? And the kids are like super smart, Normal kids. Right, but isn't that incestual If?
Robby:you touched her.
George:No, no From the perspective. There's genetic diseases that can come of that too.
Speaker 3:Yeah but they can also test for that. Yeah, test, but it's too late when the fucking baby's no, no prior like so they can see certain things where you have this or you do, that is that in the book tested around 10 weeks old fetus.
Robby:Yeah, you can test, but you can even test prior like test the two specimens to see like I've got this thing. That's fucking weird dude. I found that so fucking weird dude. That's put off now. I found that to be the weirdest thing. I don't like him as much anymore. And twins yeah, it's like they're his twins but they're mum's his sister. Yeah, that's fucked up. And he did it without telling his wife. Dude, the guy's odd.
George:Yeah, well, you have to be when you're playing at that level. Yeah, you know what I mean you look at all super smart, super successful, super high performer people there's. They're odd they need to be because I've got to think differently from the north.
Robby:but you also see the way he takes things in and the way he sees things and like the things he discusses and you think, like some stuff he says you're like, I don't agree with that. Yeah, some stuff he says you're like makes sense, that's good, I that. Yeah, some stuff he says you're like makes sense, that's good. I like the way you look at it. Yeah, interesting. But yeah, that level of complacency, look, is it a bad thing?
George:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, and I must admit it's very rare that I've ever called my employees outside of work.
George:That's what I'm saying Very rare and like this, don't get me wrong, though I have. I've texted them Like, say, for example say, hey, I need you to go here Tomorrow morning, don't go here, go here. So I'll have to text them to let them know that. Now, does that take that away? I'm glad as long as the rules don't go too far left, like as in if you text, then you get fined four hundred thousand dollars. Do you know what I mean? If it gets to that level, then I'd be shitty. But if it's just a matter of they have the right not to respond, so if they said okay.
Robby:so if they said, if you find like four hundred thousand is excessive, but they said, let's just say, if you just say it's ten grand, yeah, or even even go even something where you could be like all right, say it's, it's 500 bucks, yeah.
George:That would piss me off. Why.
Robby:Why.
George:What do you mean? Why would it piss you off? Because I messaged someone outside of hours.
Robby:No, no. So the way you would have to work is they'd have to implement that law. If they implemented the law, would you be pissed off?
George:That you got fined if I messaged you. Yeah, that would annoy me. That would annoy you. Why? Because if I need to contact my employee for the benefit of my business, I can't do that, but now I'll get penalized as a result the reality is, you only can't do that if the employee goes and tells them right and then if that employee goes and makes me get fined, guess who's not gonna have a job next week?
Robby:yeah so you just saved me so much. You know what I like it. You just gave me a thing that's going to work out. This guy or girl is a dick.
George:But you know what, if they've got rules like that in place, you watch what would happen with other rules and fair work and go. Well, he unfair dismissal, they'll go you for that shit. If they're going to complain to you about getting rid of you, that's fine.
Robby:What are're going to complain to you about? Getting rid of you? That's fine. What are you going to cost me? Three grand, five grand, ten grand, go away. Do you know what I mean? You will cost me more in the long run that I won't notice as a, as a bad employee. Do you know how good a good employee is? Do you know how fucking good it is when you hire someone and they fucking think for themselves and you're like man, like what the fuck was I settling for before?
Speaker 3:yeah, you engage?
Robby:someone and they fucking think for themselves. And you're like man, like what the fuck was I settling for before? Yeah, you engage someone and they actually do what you teach them carry. And then you're like yes, you're thinking this through, dude. Like, yes, well done, thanks for reminding me. Fucking hallelujah, this law. If that's gonna save me that, I'm all for it. If that's going to save me that. I'm all for it If that's going to make me expose. It's like when someone fucks you over.
George:So you say yeah, I guess it's good You're looking at it from the perspective that it's going to Expose. It's probably a good way, Then fucking send text messages every night. Do you know what I mean? Yeah or no? No, send it once.
Robby:You've got to send it to one person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and just see, like you know, see who it is, and then you send it to the next person you know.
Robby:Expose us. Yeah, are you in? Are you committed? Also, flip the script. If you're a business owner, let me a fucking dick do. You know what I mean? Don't hassle your employees. I know someone I hear this from a third party but someone would message their employees at like 2 am and you're like dude, like don't fucking do that. I even tell my employees we work on Slack. When you say message like phone, yeah, like phone. Or WhatsApp, yeah.
Robby:I tell my employees hey, anything after hours WhatsApp Slack. If I tell my employers hey, anything after hours WhatsApp Slack. If I message you at 10 pm on Slack, it's because I'm working. You don't have to reply to your start. I'm just dropping you a message because I'll forget otherwise. Yeah, and then reply when you start, and I would have someone that would reply on the spot. I'm like, hey, you don't have to reply. Do you say that to them when they reply. I just let say it what about?
George:email. I send emails often. Yeah, do it a lot Out of night, out of hours.
Robby:So I'll be working and I'll be like oh, I remember that You've got my 365 there. Yeah, you can schedule emails, oh, to go first thing in the morning. Yeah, you can say like, send this at 7.30. I don't know what to do that.
George:I just normally send it. But yeah, I make that. I send it like, but you can answer in the morning, you don't have to when you get to work. You don't have to send me an email and respond to that right now. Yeah, but then you know I would hate. Yeah, but then would they turn around say here's all my list of emails he's sending me at 9, 10, 11 o'clock at night time yeah there you go, fair work interesting.
Robby:Yeah, also like where did they draw the line? Like okay, what if I water? What if I run into them, like the whole year? You can't like what do you? Yeah, what if I run into them in the street? Like what if I'm at the shops and I see my coals? I've looked the other way, like where do you draw the line? Hey, what's happening yeah, don't talk about work. Yeah, do you know? Like, where do you draw the line? But dude, these boundaries allow you to see people's behaviors.
George:I like the point of view Do you know what I mean.
Robby:You just see people's behaviors. You're like, okay, cool, if you're willing to get us fined for that, are you really committed to where we're going here? Do you know what I mean? If I'm not overstepping my boundaries? Yeah, that's what I mean. I I'm not overstepping my boundaries. Yeah, I'm talking like a one-off.
George:That's what I mean, but this is, I would say, most employees, employers, sorry, would be like that.
Robby:You reckon.
George:Yeah, I think so. I think the vast majority of people wouldn't be overstepping their boundary. No, when they're calling you to do something or ask you for something like sometimes it's you know say I'm about to call a client close a deal and I'm going to call the client at I've scheduled the call at 7 pm because that's what time it is and then I call someone else. I call him and say hey, did you get that quote? How much was it? Well, did you speak to that person? And it's an important piece of information.
Robby:I would want to be able to call them up, won't like they're not at entry level.
George:Yeah, correct. You know what I?
Robby:mean Like that's not a person, who's someone who has that level of critical information that's going to impact you at that hour? Isn't someone where they're going to fuck off at 501 or 459 every day? Yeah, exactly, do you know what I mean? Like they're going to understand that there's going to be a relationship. Exactly Do you know what I mean. Like they're going to understand that there's going to be a relationship there. Do you know what I mean? Yep, I do, and I always tell people call me. Like most people I've pulled back now with clients, just because sometimes you can have some people who can overstep boundaries. But most people that I work with, especially if you've got a good relationship call. Like, call me whenever you want. Oh, I don't want to call what? If you're eating dinner, I probably won't answer. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm probably not going to answer your call if I'm eating dinner. That's just the truth and that's fine. Like, I'll call you back if I get a chance later.
George:If not, well, I actually had some clients call me last night at seven o'clock and my phone is on do not disturb. It goes automatically on, do not disturb at like 6. And only people in my favorites can get through to me Because the phone will actually ring. So I didn't even hear their phone call because I didn't see it. Am I in your favorites? You're not. Don't fucking call me. Call me, I'm just not going to listen to it. Nah, iggy, I'll put you on my favorites. I'll put you on my favorites. Iggy, you make me look good. You make me look better than I am. So I've got to put you on my favorites. I have to. But you've never called me out of hours. What's wrong with you? I thought we were friends.
Robby:I've messaged Iggy outside of hours.
George:Do you? We've done WhatsApp actually? No, we've communicated WhatsApp, but you're going to. Yeah, that's just telling me that this is purely professional. I thought we were actually friends.
Speaker 3:What's going on, Iggy? Yeah, we talk all the time. 10 pm.
Robby:What about when you're playing squash? I'll message him, but if he doesn't reply, I'll call him.
George:Yeah, and then he doesn't answer, then mean, I'll call him yeah, I mean, and then he doesn't answer, then he's like what is going on?
Robby:yeah, hey, what's going on like, hey, I called you, he didn't answer. Can you find out what it is?
Speaker 3:fun fact. I don't know what we're talking about. Even one fact about the birth thing thing.
George:The birth japan is actually not number one.
Speaker 3:Oh oh, who is? It's actually Ukraine, because of the war. What's Japan? Level two, japan's actually number four, but you can't count the other two because it's very small countries Monaco and St Piri and McWillin or something. Yeah, where's Australia? Australia is 140, something. Okay, still got some time.
George:Might go ask Nicole if she wants to. Still got some time. Yeah, might go ask Nicole. Here's the thing you heard it here first.
Robby:Nicole, here's the thing with things like this it is so far out of our, it's out of our lifetime. Yes, humans, like we don't get to like the, the decisions we make now we don't get to see the. You know, it's like the environment stuff. Yeah, do you?
George:let's go do you buy into all that, the global warming and all that shit it makes sense. I think it makes it makes sense, like I'm a logical person from yeah, and you're like, we're living on a rock?
George:Yeah, we live exactly Like Cars. Are the cars, the emissions, the fumes, the coal stations, like all that stuff affecting the environment? That makes a lot of sense when you consider how many, what there's billions of cars on the planet. There's so much pollution. Would it increase the temperature? I mean that makes sense to a degree, I don't know. Is it melting the temperature? I mean that makes sense to a degree, I don't know. Is it melting the polar ice caps? I don't know. Like Port Phillip Bay doesn't look deeper, like the water isn't at my office yet so is it affecting?
Robby:I don't know, but there is countries that are sinking. Is that, yeah, I don't know, like not sinking, if you?
Speaker 3:ever hearordan peterson's podcast about what his take is on global warming? Yeah, uh he says bullshit he worked with some like very smart people on the list of problems with the un. Uh, with the un, like, uh, what's the world problems? And in the top 20, like what's the world problems? And in the top 20, global warming wasn't in it. Yeah, there were very smart people and they didn't even bother to put global warming in the top 20.
Robby:So, yes, here's what you need to ask when you it's like you know what's a hungry man's problem? That food. What's a wealthy man's problem? He's trying to buy a new car. Yeah, I mean, like problems are relevant to your agenda. So you gotta ask, like, what the people? What do they want? Are they thinking about the next 500 years? Are they thinking about how they can make money now? Are they thinking about their kids? Like where is their head at? Because then problems are all relevant to what you're looking for. Yeah, I mean, if I'm trying to lose weight, my problems are relevant to what you're looking for. You know what I mean. If I'm trying to lose weight, my problems are relevant to that. As opposed to someone who's skinny, they don't have the same problems I have. Your problems are relevant to what you want. Yeah, and I don't know who those people are. I think Jordan Peterson's a very smart guy and there's an interview with him and Elon Musk.
George:Yes, I haven't seen it. I've seen snippets of it Interesting.
Robby:It's weird, weird chat, like you watch it and you're like these are two titans of the world right now, dude, elon Musk is a fucking titan of the world. Yeah, you guys get that right, like we are witnessing. I think we're in a. This is the greatest time to be alive. Yeah, I think we're in a. This is the greatest time to be alive.
George:Yeah, arrigan's pretty good, I think. A lot of opportunities, a lot of things going on opportunities?
Robby:I think we are. We are witnessing. We're witnessing greatness in all our sports. Has there ever been a greater soccer player than like Ronaldo or Messi, whoever you fucking fan of? Has there ever been a better basketball player? We watched someone break the all than like Ronaldo or Messi, whoever you fucking fan of. Has there ever been a better basketball player? We watched someone break the all-time record of everything LeBron James. He's the best scorer, high scorer. He's going to play with his son. Oh, is he? He's going to play with his son His son got fucking drafted to the Lakers.
Robby:They're going to play him and his son on the same team. He is crushing it in every aspect of life, that is so fucking cool, how cool is that?
George:That is the coolest thing.
Robby:I've ever heard. Imagine.
George:I want to alley-oop to your son. Oh yeah, let's get him on the show. Call him LeBron, Call him man LeBron.
Robby:Put it on. Next time you're a brother get there.
George:Dude, one of my all-time favorite athletes I think I mentioned know he he schedules sleep? Yeah, he's, because I listened to it a little while ago. It was on the car map and he had a whole series about sleep and how it's one of his most important things that he does every single day, like at two o'clock he'll go and have a nap for an hour. Do you want to do the like? He actually schedules naps throughout the day. Do you want to have the?
Robby:best sleep you love. I'd love to thank you. Come up nice bath. Shit, I'm tired. I knew it. I knew there was a catch.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you right now, dude yeah, if you take an ice bath, I'll come also, I'll record you okay, you're gonna record me, you're not gonna get in.
George:No, I'm just gonna record you why you're from mongolia.
Robby:That's right, it's like you.
Speaker 3:You'll feel home for a bit yeah, there are a lot of people who love it, but yeah, for me, mongolia's got torrential cold. Yeah, people just go out in the winter and do ice baths, but it's not for me. Have you tried extreme?
Robby:No, it's not extreme. How is cold water extreme? You know what? I can't wrap my. You know people who fear of jumping out of a plane and stuff. I get that Like you could die. This is water. Oh no, no, I don't have a fear. No, I don't have a fear. There's so many people I've seen say like, oh no. I called even like michael chandler, like a usc fighter. He's like, yeah, that was one of my biggest fears, man getting into an ice bath. And I'm like how, like this is water. Yeah, like it's cold, but that's all it is. And you get used to it. Like you, once you're in there for two minutes you can't feel anything anymore. But people have this. It goes to show your fear is so built up in your aim.
George:Oh, without a doubt, yeah, without a doubt. It's put there by someone else, but it is put there by someone else.
Robby:I'm telling you now we go Ice, hot, ice, hot, ice, hot, ice, hot, three times, you'll have the best sleep of your life, dude, a best sleep. I might go to bed straight after. Yeah, yeah, literally Do it at like 8 pm and go home. Oh, no shit. Yeah, like that A. I'm telling you right now, dude, your body just sinks into such a deeper level of sleep. Yeah, I don't know what the science is behind it, but you, just you, physically, doc, you just pass out, like, and you just get out cold. I'm like that now, but that's good. Even my whoop like you track your sleep, dave. Yeah, yeah, even my whoop like. Usually, when I do that, like at night, I'll have a better sleep.
George:Are you still using those mouth covers and nose covers and shit like that? I use the nose ones, not the mouth.
Robby:Yeah, even though it showed.
George:It was better. It was better, just annoyed you. It's just not comfortable, dude. I can imagine this with facial hair too.
Robby:Yeah, like, ripping it off in the morning hurts, um, yeah, it's just not comfortable. It's not a comfortable like. I'm also not a. Okay, I'm going to bed. Do you know what I mean? I like to like wind down. So once you the mouth tips on, dude, like more one in here. This is like go to sleep.
Speaker 3:Have you tried hot bath very hot bath and bone soup? No, what bone soup? Yes, and bone soup, no. Bone broth, yeah, like a broth or something like to eat yeah, something that you actually. But you take a bath and it's very hot, no, and you what you bath in bone broth?
Robby:Yeah, very hard one. That's a lot of broth. Yeah, what a waste of food.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of broth and that's a lot of you take a bath for it's like your time of cookies 15 minutes you come out, you sweat like a pig and you go dead asleep pig and you go dead sleep. Yeah, what's the difference between that and hot water? I have no idea. It was a medicational thing and it was working. At least that's what I know this is um this place.
Robby:This place is across the road and it's called p3 recovery.
George:I go there is that our sponsor of the week sure I go there I go there and say give the discount code Robbie20. Yeah, I'll give you 20% off. Use the code Robbie20.
Robby:No, I go there, I reckon, at least four or five times a week, yeah, and I usually go in and I have a sauna. I come out of the sauna, I jump straight into the ice bath. It's cold as fuck. Get out, and most out, and most of the time I'll jump in the hot tub straight after and then I'll get out and go. But, like yesterday, I went there late and I did ice hot, ice hot, ice hot, which is what they want you to do.
George:But I just don't have time for it.
Robby:They reckon like the temperature changes is good for you. They actually tell you to go hot. Sorry, ice hot, warm this fall. But I'm just like what's warm going to give me that hot stuff, like I'll just go extreme. So I just go ice hot, ice hot. Yeah, and I had a really good sleep, slept through all my alarms, everything. I was out cold. That to me says I was in a deep sleep and my recovery was through the roof.
George:Did you get up without an alarm?
Robby:Today I did yeah Only because I slept through the hours.
George:No, do you get up before your alarm? I'm finding the last six weeks. I'm awake before my alarm goes off.
Robby:No, but I've also been at a point in my life where I'm changing my routine, like I don't go to the gym in the morning anymore. Okay, I haven't been doing that for a while?
George:Do you go during the day?
Robby:Yeah, if I go train, I'll go during the day.
George:Yeah, yeah, I did mix that up a little bit. I was going I don't like it, I it. I was going mid, I was going morning, but a little bit later used to go at like six wednesday. This wednesday just passed, I went at six pm am today's wednesday, yesterday morning, today's the fuck.
Robby:No, today's thursday, people listening to this.
George:It's wednesday, oh, it's wednesday. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Anyway, get used it. We film this shit on any day of the week.
Robby:You listen to it on Wednesday, every day of the week Anyway. So yeah, do I agree with the laws. Yes, yes, do I think you should have an ice bath? Yes, do I think LeBron James is the greatest sportsman in the world?
George:At the moment, past and present. Moment past and present or past greatest, yeah and future.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, I, I like lebron too yeah, he's not the goat icon which I think most people get the michael jordan thing mixed up. I think michael jordan is a character very few people have the chance of passing, just like mcgregor was for the ufc. Is mcgregor the best fighter? No, that was he the biggest icon.
George:Yeah um be very. I don't think anyone will pass him.
Robby:Jordan, no um mcgregor in that space yeah, I think jordan's might be the same, like I don't think anyone will be that big a superstar like people like it's no jordan.
George:Yeah, they'll be like oh my god, I don't know. Yeah, they don't know jordan most people know theBron. Yeah, he still plays though.
Robby:Yeah, yeah, good point. Will they know him in 20 years? You'd think so. Oh yeah, sure, his son's playing.
George:Yeah, that's cool, though I dig that Playing with his kid. How old is he? He's in his 40s. He'd be close to 40 now, wouldn't he, lebron.
Robby:I think he's like 39, 40. Yeah, yeah, he's 18, 19. That's cool, that is cool man. Yeah, so he had a kid early, Like had a kid at like 21 or whatever, and then he's going to play in the NBA. Be the first ever father-son duo.
George:That is sick. Yeah, even just good publicity for the Lakers, even if he's no good LeBron James will turn 40 in December, december 26th, december 30th.
Robby:Oh, that's close.
George:Very cool, very cool.
Robby:So, to bring this to a close text your employers After hours, text them after hours, call them, email them whatsapp, email them and then, if they snitch you in, you know you've just learned something that's the price of the lesson, yeah don't hassle them until you need to.
Robby:And then it tells a story dude. In my opinion, all behaviours behaviours will tell you more than words ever will. Yeah, it's like the guy, and then it tells a story dude. In my opinion, all behaviors behaviors will tell you more than words ever will. It's like the guy who's saying I wish I was skinny, but there's nothing about it. What do you really wish? I wish I could succeed in my workplace, but then, when you need them, they're not there.
George:Yeah, when you were working, were you the type to have answered the phone call if it came out after hours?
Robby:So growing up I always worked in big corporations. I spent seven years at Mercedes-Benz, from 18 to 24. Do you know what I mean? So I never had that Like a big corporate's never going to call you after hours.
George:Is that more so because of your role and what you were doing? Yeah, I was just like a ple. Corporate's never going to call you after hours like is that more so because of your role and what you were doing? Yeah, I was just.
Robby:I was just like a pleb, yeah yeah, hey, like what are they going to call you about?
George:yeah, um, except that time you didn't put a tire on properly yeah, I called them because I was calling in sick and they said oh, by the way, did you wear this car?
Robby:yeah, what time did you leave last night? I I'm like, why Did I forget to clock off? Did you get my overtime? And then they said let me call you back. And they did. Anyway told that story before. After that, when I got into real estate, I would take client calls from 9 pm because I was 100% commissioned and I was like what if someone's calling me to sell? No, whatever, call them to sell the house at 9pm. But that was my mentality Like what if someone's calling me? You know what I mean. So yeah, I would. I also didn't feel like I need, I feel like I need the separation more now, whereas then I didn't feel like I needed the separation, I could just go and go and go.
George:Separation in your role as what you're doing today. So if you had a client call at 9 pm, no, like I feel like now I request the breaks. Quick question. Okay, so let's put it the other way around. What about when a client calls you out of hours? You should find them. So it's a similar concept.
Robby:yeah, yeah, it's a third party on there, but I'm saying no, no, the clients aren't gonna fucking.
George:There's no, there's no. Fine now, no, no, but the clients don't this. That rule doesn't apply to clients. It says by any third party as well.
Robby:No, no, calling you the business owner yeah so, but you as a business owner fall under fair work yeah, so if my client calls me out of hours I can, then well, there's no fine at the moment but let's say there was, it's not, that's not ever going to work.
George:But so here's the thing what if I got, what if my, what if my employee calls me out of hours, you go. Hey, fuck you, I'm gonna fuck you up now yeah, but right now the law states.
Robby:The law states that they have the right of refusal, yes, meaning that they have to they don't have to. If they answer that's their choice.
George:They can't get Discipline for not answering is what it's saying. That's, yeah, like if they don't answer, you can't I'm just saying forget the law for a second, yeah, okay, let's just say a client's calling you today. Yeah, all I want to talk about my video that you recorded for me and they call you at 8.30.
Robby:How do you feel about that? It depends on the relationship with the client.
George:Yeah, yeah If they're a ball breaker, if they're good clients, yeah.
Robby:So if a client calls me, normally I'll respond. For me it's just like a Courtesy no. It's like a I'm going to forget. Oh okay, it's like a I'm going to forget. Oh, okay, let me just respond. It is easier for me to just send a message now. Otherwise I'm going to forget that you messaged me. The only time I won't respond is if I don't have my phone on me Usually, now, if it's a person that has a bad habit of messaging me outside of hours all the time then I won't yeah don't reward that.
Robby:Yeah, I'm not going to reward, like I know someone who will call several times in a row yeah, that's just their-.
George:That's how they are. That's just how they are. Yeah, they're not doing it intentionally. They're not doing it with a bad intent.
Robby:Yeah, it's due to everyone. That's just how they are. Try to talk to them Like they just. They'll always do it. They'll call you two, three times in a row. Yeah, and if you didn? And now, even if I was going to call them back after the first call, if they call more than once, I don't call back and I make them wait ages because I'm not going to make you think that I called them three times in a row. He called me back fast. I won't do it because I think that's the most annoying thing in the world. Like what? Do you think I'm retarded? I can't pick up the phone. Like I'm obviously doing something. I'm going pick up the phone. Like I'm obviously doing something. I'm gonna see the missed call. My phone works. It's really a phone that's like it's an apple. Yeah, yeah, it's a great phone. You made it in life great.
Robby:yeah, made it got a bit of um yeah, so I don't record that bad behavior yeah look what about you?
George:I will. That's partly why I put my phone on. That do not disturb. But you know, yesterday I got a phone call from my client and I didn't see it. And then I, when I picked up my phone, I saw that I had them. As cool. I called him back, actually that night because it's one of those clients, I've got a really good relationship yeah, he's quite.
Robby:Hey man like what's going on.
George:Yeah, I just saw your goal yeah, and often he just calls me on his walk. He's just, you know, walking in his shanty. The other thing is, if he's depending what I'm doing at the time, like if my kids are in bed, I'm more likely to answer. Because I'm not that's priorities. Yeah, that's right, it's full priority. Then also, if I'm chilling out on the couch watching TV and I can't be fucked, I'm not answering. That's partly why I put it on the do not disturb, because if I see the call, I'm more likely to answer it, whereas if I don't see it or I don't hear it and then I'll pick up my phone half an hour later. Oh, he called me at seven and now it's nine. I don't need to call him back.
Robby:That's where I mean I feel like I need that separation more now. Yeah, like in the sense of from the phone. Yeah, like my phone blows up, dude. Yeah. And I feel like like when I go camping, I like going to places when there's no reception because like you just can't reach me, like no reception, because like you just can't reach me, like and I love that. Yeah, like I know for a fact that when I go yeah, yesterday I got out of there and we'll wrap up with this yesterday I got out of the ice bath thing and I was probably there for an hour in total and it was about 8, 30 quarter to nine, and I was walking out and my phone's away the whole time. And I get out and I grab my phone and I check it Nothing. And I smiled and I'm like it's just a nice feeling, dude, like my phone. I don't have a good association to my phone blowing up.
George:Me too. Yeah, Me too. That's why I changed my ringtone the other day. When I said the other day, like six months ago, I changed it because I used to I hear that old ringtone. Like I heard it, I was watching TV and that ringtone was on the TV and it fucking just annoyed me the one where you throw a pillow at me at 5am yeah that's right, you had it as your alarm.
George:Fuck. Anyway, that story another time while we're sleeping together and I'm trying to pillow at you when you're up Separate beds, separate beds, separate, separate beds, just just. And yeah, I completely agree with that. But I think also because my clients know that my phone is on do not disturb, they don't call me anymore. You know what I mean, because I was sorry, I didn't see you call my phone's on, my phone automatically goes to do not disturb and then it's like a an indirect way to tell them hey, don't call me after five or after six or whatever it is um yeah, I like, I like the separation.
Robby:Yeah, me too. I like the. Okay, cool, I shouldn't get any more calls after you. I think that I like. That's why I like coming to work early as well so that comes from getting too many calls during the day? Yeah, the phone doesn't. Yeah, and it's like if you get the same treatment after hours, it'll do your head in, but if you're calling your employees a one-off after hours, it shouldn't do their head in. If you call them all the time, you should stop doing their head in. Yes, I agree.
George:Yeah, I agree with that.
Robby:I think there's no black and white rule here. I think it's either stop being a dick or fire them Be more of a dick.
George:Yeah, one or the other be more of a dick.
Robby:Yeah, one or the other, one or the other, awesome. Oh, good chat, good chat. Yeah, you know what else um is annoying.
George:I can't even say I I feel that icky knows what's annoying. Yeah, yeah, do you know what it's like? He feels like? I feel like it's been on the tip of his tongue all episode and he's been wanting to say it Come on, icky, you've got to be picking up what we're putting down. My goodness, oh, my goodness. How do we edit that? Can you make sure you put the thing like the sound effect over that? Who is this guy? Who invited him on the podcast? All right, make sure you sign up to the podcast, don't fuck around thanks guys.
