Million Dollar Days

Breaking Free from Mediocrity

• Robby Choucair and George Passas • Season 1 • Episode 59

Share episode

Send us a text

Nothing great comes from comfort zones, and George and Robby are here to prove it. This episode is all about pushing past mediocrity to achieve the extraordinary. Through personal stories and bold challenges, they encourage listeners to reevaluate the safe routines holding them back. Robby passionately explains how staying comfortable leads to stagnation, while George highlights the importance of setting audacious goals to fuel growth.

Looking to expand your horizons? We discuss ambitious plans for the upcoming year, both personally and professionally. From attending international events like the 10X Conference to exploring new travel destinations, there's much to look forward to. On the professional side, hear insights into effectively managing workloads and the dangers of easing up too soon. With a focus on strategic growth and exploring new market segments, such as apartment projects, we emphasize balancing ambition with careful planning to maintain momentum in all areas of life.

By the end of this episode, you’ll be inspired to take control of your schedule and embrace the pressure that comes with aiming high. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by a busy life, this episode will give you the tools and motivation to push through and excel.



Robby:

How good is this time of year.

George:

Pressure makes diamonds. Are you under pressure? I think.

Robby:

I'm always under pressure. It never stops. You put pressure on yourself, though.

George:

Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree with that. Could be less under pressure, that's for sure. Someone was telling me this morning, you know it's like, oh, I don't know how you deal with it. Like you're always so busy, got so much on here, You're doing everything. Who was saying oh? Dee was saying it to me actually this morning, but then I was doing some mentoring sessions as well and they were like I don't know how you do it, Like I don't know how you do this and do this and do this. I just don't get it. I'm so busy in my own day You're doing that, plus all the other shit you're doing.

Robby:

And I'm like, yeah, everything can be done. You just got to make the time for it, plan for it. You know what? I think one of the best exercises is Time. What's it called Time audit? Have you ever done one? I haven't actually. Oh, dude, you will be, I'm going to do it. After this, you will be gobsmacked at how much time you still waste. Yeah Cause you'll be like, oh shit, smacked at how much time you still waste.

George:

Yeah, because I genuinely feel like that. I was speaking with my PT this morning as well, and he's like we're ramping up training Because I'm getting fucking massive. I'm going to get swole, swole, swole, as they say. Paul Mosey, yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah, I'm going to come on stage with flannel shirts as well and shorts Sick flannel. I'm going to come on stage with flannel shirts as well and shorts and singlets. That's why I'm growing my beard. Do you notice? It's a bit longer than normal.

Robby:

I didn't, but I like it.

George:

Actually, I'm going to do that. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh, so he was like yeah, get in swole. So we're training, I'm training more. You know what, though? Gun to my head. If you said you have to train five times a week for the next month and I will give you $10 million cash, are you going to train?

Robby:

Who is what? You train seven. You train twice a day. You train twice a day. Yeah, so go do 75 hard, but this is what I mean.

George:

It can be done. It's like oh, I'm busy tomorrow, make some fucking time, it's 45 minutes.

Robby:

It's an hour, get up earlier.

George:

That's it. So I always look at that small scenario with the fitness and the health and all that sort of stuff and apply it to business then and say, oh, how am I not doing that tender? I could do it. How am I not getting back to that person? I could do that. How am I wasting time?

Robby:

in my day. I don't have enough time to read what you can't. Spare 15 minutes a day to read 10 pages. Get out of the day first thing in the morning.

George:

That's the other thing I do now, because I always train mornings, because I know by the time I get home, get the kids ready, bed, all that sort of shit. It's very, very rare occurrence that I'm going to go out and train yeah because at that point or even work Sometimes, I can't be fucked working, so what I end up doing, funny enough is, I go to bed early, so I'm up early, and then those two hours extra in the morning. I'm actually more productive working then than what I would be at 8.30 at night.

Robby:

Yeah, or you can say I was sick.

George:

Yeah, absolutely so. So, so, so, yeah, lots on. It's a good time of the year, nearly holidays as well. We shut down for three weeks. Are you shutting down in your business or are you going to work through? We work through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, people don't.

George:

It's not quieter for you definitely quieter, yeah yeah, I was gonna say because that's what I mean. A lot of people tend to take a few days off during that time. Yeah as well, but it's also because you're in construct. You've got, you know, that construction space too a lot of them shut down as well.

Robby:

Yeah also though like uh, it was proven a few years back that the highest screen time day of the year is boxing day. Yeah, right, yeah. And the second highest is new year's day. New year's day, that makes sense. New year's day, yeah, so post christmas and post new year's eve everyone's looking at what happened throughout the day.

George:

Everyone's just spending time. This is what I say to a lot of the clients and even for yourself, right? Everyone's like I'm going to come into christmas. I'm going to come into Christmas. Oh, I'm going to put my account on pause, please. I'm like, no, no, ramp it up, spend more. Yeah, because everyone's at home, everyone is like on their phones. That's one pension.

Robby:

The other part is everyone else stops only seeing you. He's only gone through. Yeah, couldn't agree more. Do you know what I mean? Couldn't agree more? Yeah, all of a sudden, you stand out because you're like the construction company who's doing stuff in the period that no one is. Yeah, no, these guys are still going through. Yeah, these guys sleep. Yeah. How does George get so much done?

George:

And, and again, I was saying it with something else. I had a coaching session with one of my guys and it was like I take out at least four hours out of my work week to go and train and yet I'm still more productive as a result of working out. I think outweigh that time that you would be in the office, because I used to always prioritize work. I was like no, no, no, I've got to work and do this tender and not train. I've got to work and do this and not train. I've got to be here. I'll train later when I feel like it.

Robby:

Yeah, I think also, though, another thing is, when you are short for time, you just manage to get more done, like isn't it funny how much shit you get done before you go on holidays, yeah, and you get that whole list and all of a sudden, like the whole thing is done, yep.

George:

Well, monday morning I came into the office and I knew I had a client coming in at about 10.30 and I had to finish a tender that I was going to sit down with him because I said, hey, monday we'll come in and have a chat, and I had to do a couple of takeoffs. There was a few things I actually had to do to get my final price and then I had to put the presentation together as well and I was like I just powered through it Like 10.30, he was in the room, he was in the office, ready to sit down. I had to be ready before then to put it all together, to give to him and say that you hit. So it looked like it had been ready for six months before he walked in here.

Robby:

And it's still warm from the pinch.

George:

It was a bit like that, but I got it done and didn't make mistakes. It was all above board. So yeah, pressure makes diamonds. It's amazing what you can do when you have that timeframe on you or that time constraint. What do you?

Robby:

reckon people didn't do or that time constraint.

George:

What do you reckon people didn't do? You know, I was listening to a podcast from Paul Mosey the other day and he was saying exactly that. Sometimes you know people saying they want to scale their business. They don't necessarily need to go out and employ more people. Why don't you just work harder? Why don't you just get your team to work more efficiently or work harder and say, hey, hey, hey, this is your task. I know it's going to take you a week, do it in two days. What's that look like? And then all of a sudden, because they know that it's like, they know they have the week, they'll take the week. Yeah, I think you've mentioned it before on the podcast.

Robby:

I can't remember what the there's a law. It's not Parkinson's.

George:

No, that's the memory one where you can't You've got Parkinson's disease where you forget everything.

Robby:

I can't remember what the law is. I don't know, I can't remember. It's like it's got that law when time will take, murphy's Law.

George:

Murphy's Law anything can go wrong, will go wrong.

Robby:

Ah, the time when a task takes as long as the time allocated to it, what's the law? You'll. When a task takes as long as the time allocated to it, what's the law? They'll find it. They'll find it. You know, I don't Google anymore. What do you do? Do you zing? I chat GPT.

Robby:

Oh, I used chat GPT this morning. Actually, hey, no, no. I go and say, hey, like client will ask me something, and I'll be like this is the best. And they'll be like, hey, I'm trying to do this on this webinar platform but it's not working. So I'll go to ChatGPT and I'll say, how do I do this on this webinar platform? And it gives me the thing and I'll say, can you write it so I can send it in an SMS? And it does, and I copy it. It's actually Parkinson's law.

George:

Is it really Fucking hell? There you go, there you go. It's just a matter of working, putting other constraints in place to get the thing done more efficiently, and that's what I reckon happened to me on Monday. Definitely I had to do it. There was no ifs or buts about it. It had to be done. And, yes, I was at work a little bit earlier to get it done because I knew the time it would take for you, but I got it done.

Robby:

Also, we recently had an event Also. We recently had an event.

Robby:

Think about when we first started doing these events. How many times did the presentation get ready at midnight the night before and it's like how ironic that it happened to get completed just before the deadline. Every single time it's like the kids' tests they don't study the whole time, or the projects or whatever it is, or an essay or whatever it might be, and you don't do anything for two months or however long you have before, and then the night before you manage to cram 60 days, 45 days worth of work, into three hours, six hours, whatever it might be. People need more deadlines. People need more deadlines on their life.

George:

Yeah, well, again, I did a meeting with everyone this morning. The whole guys and I was like, put some milestones in place that you want to achieve it. One of my clients was saying how I want to win these next couple of jobs and then I want to finish these systems and then I'm going to put someone on in the office. I'm like, okay, that's great, but what happens when you don't finish those systems? What happens when you don't win those jobs? Okay, you're giving yourself that leeway to fail to a degree, because, oh, you know, when I win these jobs is only when I can put someone on. When I finish all these systems is the only time I can put someone on. So put a time frame on it. All March next year, you're going to have all your systems in place. Yes, cool, then. That's one thing. You can just discount now and go cool, well, all my systems are in place, I can employ someone. The project's cool. I'm going to win this many projects by this state. Make it happen and put the people on. Be accountable to yourself. It's work.

George:

Yeah, you've also got to do that. That work like as in and plan for it. I don't think it's like you don't want to wish again. Speaking to my coach this morning, he was like I'm going away this weekend for for work, I'm going to sydney for a few days and he's like, well, what are you going to do whilst you're there? What are your, what are your goals? He goes your pt, yeah. So he's like, if you're going to go there, don't have a goal of just not eating shit, okay, because that's not a plan.

George:

He goes. You're not executing a plan. You're just saying I'm just not going to eat shit. He goes, okay. So why don't you go there and say, well cool, I'm going to eat high protein foods, I'm going to have meat with every meal, I'm going to go and do 10,000 steps at least, I'm going to go for whatever a workout at the gym, at the hotel. So actually have a plan to execute that goal. I think it's really important, because when you don't have that, then again you're sort of setting yourself up for failure, but also you're giving yourself permission to fail, and that's where people don't hold themselves accountable, and it's kind of good to have a coach in that instance as well, because they can pull you up on that shit.

Robby:

And also it gives them the you said permission to fail, but also the permission to say but I can still do it. Yeah, because they haven't said like a deadline, that's right. Oh, I've got to do that next week, it's all.

George:

Last episode or a couple of episodes ago, we spoke and I didn't get my six-pack by my birthday and that was an excuse. I could have done it. Could have done it If you put, say to George, six-pack by your birthday, $10 million, okay, six-pack by your birthday, I'm going to take one of your kids. Okay, I'll get you eight. So, like it's what's associated with that and what's connected to that too, and how disciplined you are to follow it, I have all excuses, a few people reached out to me after that episode, yeah, and they're like what was the goal you were talking about?

Robby:

Oh, for you. Yeah, I did. They're like what was the goal you were talking about? I'm like get out of here, man. Yeah, it was a technology. Yeah, what do you think Are they going to tell you off air? Yeah, share it with everyone, that's right very cool.

George:

Um, there's something I was gonna say with that dolls, have you? Have you done your uh 2025 planning? No, not yet. Not yet. I reckon I'm gonna probably do that in december, like after the second week off. They're about somewhere there. I've got a few. I've got a few that I'm thinking of that I want to have for next year. Yeah Well, next year is going to be an interesting year for me because it's the first year with a general manager in place at my construction company, so professionally, it's going to be a bit of a learning curve as well. Yeah, I want to try and go on a few overseas trips as well next year. Yeah, I'm with a family One with yourself.

Robby:

Me yeah, where are we going? Us 10X Conference GC Dude, we're on stage. I'll book it right now, live on the podcast. Didn't you still book a GC lawyer to come and present? Not yet, I missed it, but we'll go. Iggy will hold the fort down, iggy's coming. The fort down, iggy's coming.

George:

He's coming, he's going to record the trip.

Robby:

That would be. How sick would that be. Would you come? Have you heard Iggy's staying in Melbourne? Cool, he doesn't know yet.

George:

Ask him Iggy, if you stay in Melbourne, I'll get you a ticket to come to America Way.

Robby:

America. I'm actually not a big fan of America. No, you'll be alright. I'm going to Mongolia. Can I come? Unless someone buys me a ticket to America and then I'll stay.

George:

Tried, didn't work. Have you been to Vegas before?

Robby:

No, never been to.

George:

America.

Robby:

I'll book today. Stop fucking around. Okay, I will book it. We'll go to the 10X conference, We'll go to Homozy's thing and we'll go to the UFC.

George:

All three are in the same Is it on at that time. Is there a UFC on? Ufc on every week, ah, but just not the main events, just don't know.

Robby:

Ah, yeah, Might not be a pay-per-view. Yeah, fine, we'll stay for the pay-per-view. Um, but yeah, I just want to go and that would be sick.

George:

It's fucking cool that. It was a cool experience when I went, uh, in 2019. Let's do it, yeah, but these are the things I want to, but in order to do that, I've got to get shit pumping here as well.

Robby:

Of course you can't just let the ship sink, do you ever?

George:

look at it, I'm in a position now where I'm trying to take on an excess amount of work. Have you been in that position or do you see issues with that? What do you mean by excess? So I uh, comes early next year I'll be almost a capacity, I reckon, early next year, with the work that we're going to have moving forward.

George:

When you say capacity in the sense of your, in the sense of my insurance cover, let's say, um, not so much in the ability to do the work, yeah, it's more in the capacity from that perspective. So I'll, I will, I'll be able to do it. I feel I've got avenues to get more work done. All right, but a lot of people because I was in this issue a few years back where I won all this work and then I took the foot off the accelerator and I don't want to do that ever again. Yeah, I'm, because I've learned from that mistake. You know what I mean. So now it's comfort. Yeah, it was, it was, but it's also I was kind of hype, it was all that shit. Like I was, like I had good am I? Everyone's cheering me on, you know, saying you're the best, I'm like yeah, I am the best cool.

George:

This is great hey buy into the and food. Food came off the accelerator. I got work for the next year. What do I need to go for work? While I look for work at the end of the year, we get people to say people work.

Robby:

I've done it too you get comfortable and then your business does this. It goes up and down, up and down, up and down. It's a vicious cycle Because then people and this happens to me being in the marketing space when people come to me and they're like I need leads. I need leads Like fuck, they've got no work next month. And you're like, dude, should have come, got no work next month. And you're like, yeah, dude, should have done that, come to me six months ago.

Robby:

Like this is not how the now you come with the sense of desperation. You hang on anything, you'll take on anything you'll be. It becomes harder to get late. You know what I mean. Like it's like it comes across in the way you speak over the phone, in the way you sell, in everything. Yeah, you know what I mean. You show too much emotion, like you get, you're too emotionally tied in because you took the foot off the pedal at the wrong time. Instead of steadily and it's not to say you need to be flat-footed the whole time either, but you should have a steady pace continuously- yep.

George:

Well, that's the other thing that I'll look at doing again with you next year, which we'll talk about, but just again, being a capacity and running ads to do more work. Yeah, and that's what that's. That's the game. How do we grow it? How do we go to $50 million in turnover? And I was looking at a couple of jobs, for example. So I don't normally build apartments. We do have an apartment job, a couple of apartment jobs actually, but it's not the space that I'm in, it's not the type of target market that I'm looking at. But I've recently had two or three, two other apartment projects come across my lap Three, actually, I take that back three.

George:

There was one that was a decent size, it was probably a $13 million job and when it came across my lap like, this was my job to refuse? And it came across my lap because I know the developer quite well and he goes look, you want this job, I'll get it for you. I said, cool, let me have a look at it. And it's a bigger job. And I'm like do I really want to get into that space? That was my initial thought of doing this job. And then there was another thought that came. I was like oi, stop fucking around, why not? Yeah, why would you know why? Why not do it? Why not go in and and take that project on? And they're not. But then it's like is it the excuses that come into play? Is that I don't want industrial relation issues? I can't be fucked dealing with unions, is it that? And it's like oh, it's a big job. Oh, what if something goes wrong? Let me ask you a question.

Robby:

If you didn't have any work, would I take it on.

George:

Yeah, perhaps, no, I don't know again. So you so is, it is it, but then I'll. I'll ask the other question am I moving away from my niche? Because it is a bit more of a?

Robby:

yeah, but see, niche is out, inward, just want to teach people. So the niche is outward, sorry, inward, looking out right. So when we do marketing, messaging etc. That's where your niche matters. Yeah, I tell people, I'm just because you specialize as this. It doesn't mean and you know legacy media we position ourselves as specializing in the construction space and predominantly most of our clients are in this place.

Robby:

Yeah, but when a real estate agent comes to me and says, hey, can you do this, I don't say, oh, no, no, we just did construction, we can make it work. Yeah, we had someone with a in the hospitality face come up to us and ask us some questions. We went and did a video for them, like it's not too sad. Now when I do marketing, I don't turn around and say, hey, yeah, we're a construction and hospitality place. We still understand what our messaging is, but that's not to say that we can't take the skills and put them in different places. Now, will it overall affect your brand if every single PASCON job out there was all apartments? A bit, yeah, but I don't think that's the case for you now, is it?

George:

No, no, it's not. And also, but also, the other thing is I don't have the team to deliver that job at the moment. Right, but I'd rather. I don't know. That doesn't faze me. It's when the job's sorted out after, like the problem.

George:

I don't see that as the problem, but it's one of the things I'll consider too, because it's important to have someone that knows exactly what they're doing on a job like that, being a bigger scale project and anyway. So there's been a couple of jobs like that that have come across my way, some smaller apartment jobs. So when I say smaller, say so. When I say smaller, say three to five mil and again I'm looking at it do I take these jobs on? Do I take them on? Do I take them on? Do I do those types of projects? Do I step and venture out into that world? Why wouldn't you? That's my opinion. They are more okay.

George:

So a few things. This is what I think about these projects as well. I know most of the time that there are builders out there that will do them significantly cheaper than me, first of all. So I try, I really I'll look at doing a job, but I'll suss out the owner quite early on in the process and say listen, this is my price, don't negotiate, this is my price. You want to go shopping? Good for you, go, and I don't want to spend like to price a job like that. It might take four to six weeks, so I don't want to invest all that time. Give them a solid tender and then they go somewhere else because they're, you know, cheaper 150, 200 grand, 300 grand cheaper which is likely to be the case in most of these instances because a lot of those builders that are in that space they work on fuck all margin and I look at that and I'm just like dude. I make so much more on the other projects too.

George:

If it doesn't fit that's probably the other thing too, so I look at it there, but then it's like fuck it you just make it happen.

Robby:

That's a different aspect.

George:

Not to make money. I'm saying because you can always make money on these jobs, all right, there's more than one way to skin a cat in construction Like we can do. We can build smart yeah, I know Job and quality with all these sort of stuff to get things to go through and for it to stack up.

Robby:

So if I take what you're saying and flip it onto what we do, we get people coming up to us saying how much is the video? And we're like this video is a thousand bucks, for example, and they're like a thousand bucks, Someone does that same video for me for 300. Yeah, and I say that's cool. Go to that person, yeah.

George:

We can't do that for them.

Robby:

And that's what I look at it as, yeah. And then some people say, why is it more? And we show them the quality and then they give us a shot and maybe nine times out of 10, they stay on. Yeah, because they're like oh okay, I did.

Robby:

I had a guy, a video we just did and we shared, and he goes how much? And it was like a thousand bucks. And he's like a thousand bucks. This guy charged me so-and-so, whatever. And I'm like dude, it's a whole different level. We're a full agency, we've got a proper team blah, blah, blah. We use great gear. And he came, he used us and the video went on Instagram 15 hours ago. It's already surpassed every single video on his page which he's ever made. Yeah, in 15 hours it's passed every other video. And he's like yeah, I see the quality, I get it. I'm only using you guys for now. I think there is an element of if that's your game, you need to factor that in as well. That's the game in-. If you think you're going to lose the job for not dropping.

George:

Yeah, and that's the game in the luxury market space, which is where we're predominantly playing at the moment, in the sense, we're doing the higher end projects and that's the game there, because people there want to spend the money. The thing with apartments there are often commercial decisions as to why they get built. Yeah, they're like I've got 10 apartments, I've got this much to sell. This is the budget, this is what they're going to sell for. I know what they're going to sell for, as in, they know what they're going to sell for. Yeah, comes in here. Then it doesn't stack and we can't build it and there's too many builders out there that'll go.

George:

Yeah, yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it. 5%. All right, I'll do it for that much, like dude, 5%. What the fuck's wrong with you? What is wrong with you? You just got to let them have it. And I do, I do, I do, but nonetheless, there's still heaps of opportunities out there and heaps of work, and it's now at that point where I'm starting to overbook and I think it's a good thing. It's a fortunate place to be in, because I'm not going to make a bad decision when I overbook. If we're going to do a job, we're going to make money on it.

George:

Of course yeah and then you get options.

Robby:

Right, yeah, and that's what it is at the moment. We're booked out, for a start, and secondly, this is our price and if I lose the job, I don't care. Yeah, because I've got the next 12 months, full 12, 13 months full.

George:

That's right, and that's exactly where I'm finding myself at the moment.

Robby:

I think I find a lot of builders as well, though. They use the insurance thing as a oh, but we can't do it, like we can't build anymore now, like you know what I mean? What's the point of keeping marketing? We can't take on any more work. Yeah, because you get that sometimes, don't you? Yeah, we get it. And then it's like work it out, dude, like how are you letting this stop you? Yeah, do you know what I mean? Work it out. And then the whole thing everyone is, oh, but we can't, but the insurance won't up our cap thing without getting more work. But you can't get more work because you can't up your thing. Yeah, like chicken or the egg. Dude, do you know what I mean? Are you the problem or is it the problem? Get out of your own fucking way. Yeah, you know what I mean. Everyone, dude. So many times I've had that conversation. Yeah, oh, we can't know the insurance, blah, blah, blah.

George:

And, and it's like, just work it out, just work it out, work it out, you know. But again, it's like they haven't gone through that pain and that experience, which is maybe why they don't do it. What pain and experience, as in, they haven't been through that pain, where perhaps they haven't been punched in the face in that regard. So that's why they go oh cool, we're comfortable. You know, we've got enough work, we'll do this much work. Or I don't want to employ more people, I'll just do it myself. I can do this much work myself, I'm happy doing that. So if I employ more people, then I've got to go get more work.

George:

I had an employee the other day we had a team meeting and he was sitting here and I was saying all the have that much work. I go, what do you mean? He goes well, you know, it's great that you, you're doing this and you've got this project and this project, but you're now playing at this game, at this level up here. He goes what happens when you drop down a couple of levels? I said, well, it's very simple, I go, you will all be fired. Yeah, I mean like, oh don't, but the intent I'm not coming up here just so I can go up there and be there for two months or a year and then go bang, let's drop back down here again. The intent is to be there, and then the next year to be there, and then the next year to be there. He raised the bar Every single time.

George:

Year on year on year and you said this in a previous podcast too it's like every single year you should want to make, your goal should be to make more money than the year before, A hundred percent. And I said this today to someone and it's like, okay, you should be. So the 2024 Robbie or the 2025 Robbie should be better than the 24 Robbie, and the 24 Robbie should be better than the 2019 Robbie. Okay, Each and every year you should be, the better you. So I really focus on that a lot now. You know, with my business, with my life Well, cool If I've. I feel that this year has been a really powerful year for me personally and professionally, and I'm like, Ooh, I'm in a really good space. What does next year look like? If I feel like the harm's lazer is where I'm at right now, wow, imagine next year what that's going to bring.

Robby:

So continue the momentum.

George:

Yeah, yeah, without a doubt, without a doubt. Having that, I think that's a powerful thought that what's the next year If I'm going to be better next year? What does that look like? Yeah, how do I top it?

Robby:

Hmm.

George:

Yeah, and I think you're going to have to challenge yourself if that's going to be the case, don't you?

Robby:

Yeah Well, nothing, it's a no brainer. Nothing great comes from your comfort zone. Yeah, think about it. So true, like nothing great really comes from your comfort zone at all. All the great things you have in your life, whatever it is, whether it's the money you have, or the family you have, or the relationships you have, all came from you at some point doing something that was once uncomfortable to you there was always, there's always risk associated with everything.

George:

There's always that level that you need to just do something different from everyone else.

Robby:

You know what word I hate Obligation? No, you hate that word, I know you do. That's why I said it. So I'm correct, you're right, it's just not the word I was thinking, but I do hate that word. You know why I hate that word?

Robby:

Because there's a negative connotation yeah, like you know what I mean. Like every time I've felt obliged to do something, which is the term of doing what's obligated. What you're obligated to do, you have to do it. Yeah, it's like you need to do this, you have to do this thing. Yeah, it's like a negative. You know what I mean. Oh, but I had to go there. Oh, but I it's not, like I just don't have a positive association to it.

George:

Yeah, Do you think it can be, though, and other people like in a coaching world, would you use it? People would use that, and I've done it in the past as well. So yeah, but I'm doing it in obligation to give, to give back to a degree yeah, I, I think some people, like you know, I'm obligated to my family, like I'm obligated to do this, I don't know. Yeah, you're right, it does mean that you're you have to do it.

George:

It does yeah because then you're like now I'm obligated, yeah I'm not doing it because out of joy, like yeah, I'm not doing it out, like out of want.

Robby:

I understand how people normally mean it. Yeah, like in this, it's like a duty thing. Yeah, and I relate duty.

George:

I don't have a negative context yeah, so very similar word, though, isn't it in in? Some, some context, yeah, gc says it Success is your duty.

Robby:

Yeah, and I don't have. I think he's right, I think, yeah, I agree. I don't feel like, alright, success is your obligation. Yeah, see, that bothers me. Yeah, I'm going to quit Going back. I don't hate the word. I do hate that word. But I hate another word, and it's mediocrity. Fuck, that word bothers me so much, dude, like any time, the thought of you know just fitting in this year makes me want to throw up.

George:

Yeah, it annoys me as well. I get agitated and annoyed by it.

Robby:

Yeah, can't you just be normal? Yeah, it's like fuck, would you who woke up this morning and said, hopefully today's a normal day? Yeah, and they were pumped about it.

George:

Yeah, Someone told me this the other day as well, and I just looked at it and it's like oh, you know he goes. You know, fucking, everyone's like that. I'm like what? So why would I, why would I want to be like that? Do you know what I mean? Like they'll try it explaining something and saying, hey, this is what I want, this is where I think the trajectory of my life is going to go, and they're like no, just fucking, she goes. Don't, George, everyone's like that, Just relax. That's exactly why I don't want to be like that. You know what I mean Every single person's doing the same fucking thing. So don't fit in, Don't fit in.

Robby:

The only thing you have to do to have a better year on year.

George:

Off topic. Yeah, do you know, we don't. Do you realize, we don't go sideways as much anymore?

Robby:

I don't know man. I said a word then and then we just spoke about obligation for like seven minutes.

George:

No, but it was still in. It was still in, like what are you fucking laughing at, mate Tricky?

Robby:

But we're still in the context of the conversation that we're that has nothing to do with anything. We're talking about Looking completely different. Yeah, no, you're right, you're right, you're right. I didn't just talk then either. No, keep going.

George:

I felt like we used to do it a lot at the early days of this podcast. I felt like we used to do it a lot at the early days of these podcasts. We used to go sideways a lot. We're professionals now. Well, 56 episodes in one, would think this is 58.

Robby:

Is it? Are you sure? I don't know.

George:

Oh no, you're right, crack a six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

Robby:

Cool, we're about to crack a six. This might be 60. No, it's 59.

George:

I think it's 59.

Robby:

Do you?

George:

hear the federal government so they're releasing or they're looking to pass a bill where you have to be 16 years or over to be on social media. Have you heard that yet? Yes, yeah. What are your thoughts?

Robby:

on that. That's one part of it, yeah, and the other part is that they can control what is seen. Who from the younger kids?

George:

and whatnot no everything I don't understand what you mean, as you stay in the government.

Robby:

Yeah, and in the sense of. I haven't dug deep into it, but from my understanding it is that they have full control on what they will allow and not allow to be posted, meaning if they don't want something to be advertised anywhere yeah they can. They have full control and the right to refuse.

George:

Right refusal well, they're forcing you know facebook, instagram, twitter, all those platforms to now put things in place, or they're going they want to, if it gets passed to say that you need to put measures in place to stop 16-year-olds or anyone under 16. How are they going to do that? Well, it's a tick box effectively.

Robby:

What's your date of birth?

George:

Yeah, exactly, exactly so. There's no real way of actually stopping it, in my opinion, when it comes to that. So that's the first thing. Second of all, this is going to cost a fortune. I don't even know the numbers, but I guarantee you this whole process of them trying to make these companies and organizations, and everything, it's probably costing millions of dollars just to bring it up in parliament. Okay, yeah, I think they are being reactive instead of really focusing on the issue.

Robby:

I'm going to bring it up so we can get the exact yeah, no, you know what I was going to say.

George:

What the bill's called? No, it's just. You could probably just Like what Australian the 16-year-olds restricted on social media, but I think this is just a stereotypical government reaction to a problem where it's let's just go and put a bandaid over this or try and put some rules or red tape and bureaucracy in the way to seem like we're trying to make a difference and help kids, because that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to say we're trying to protect children from content that they shouldn't see and also from bullying, harassment, all that sort of shit which, if someone said to you, would you be in favor for something, for rules and procedures in place to protect children and stop bullying? You would say yes, but the way they're going about it I don't think works. I think it's just oh well, we told you we've put a tick box here, so we're a responsible government. What I think they need to do to make this issue better is probably invest money in education and actually go and help build some either self-esteem into the kids.

Robby:

I'm actually referring to a different thing. Oh, are you? Yeah, so this one's just about kids.

George:

Yeah, well, under 16 years old, you're saying they're banned from using social media, yeah, or not allowed to be on the platform as a 16-year-old as an under 16-year-old, even if the parents yeah, even if the parents approve it, and it's also.

George:

they're even going as far as YouTube and saying no, you can't even watch YouTube if you're under 16, because all these things that'll come up and you'll see I've also heard elsewhere that it's not so much them being 16, but it's. They probably need to look at targeting the algorithm of what's being fed to them. If that can be influenced in any way I'm not too sure by those companies.

Robby:

So YouTube does that. There's YouTube kids.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, so YouTube says like, when you upload a video, when these kids upload it on YouTube, there's a tick box that says it was for children. They always say, yes, it doesn't. It picks up that we're swearing, this is age-restricted material. Yeah, but we say, oh, we want to change their life. Yeah, he was quite young. They're trying to help the kids, but yeah, I actually wasn't. So do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing?

George:

I don't think it's the right thing. I'm happy to have things in place that protect children from certain things in social media, but I also feel like it's them just trying to pass the buck to Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and all those sorts of guys and say, hey, guys, sort this out, you're being irresponsible, whereas I think the money would be better spent in them educating children from a school perspective and saying, cool, well, how do you deal with harassment on social media? How do you deal with if you come across something that's controversial, that upsets you, that isn't something you should be watching, that's controversial, that upsets you, that isn't something you should be watching? How do you a whole range of things that come with that? Okay, so you're. I don't think that. I reckon if you can build that understanding in the platform and how they all work and operate, or if there's a way to change the algorithm so that they're not fed adult content, if you know what I mean. But what's the problem?

Robby:

The problem yeah.

George:

Their problem, I believe, is that they're saying kids are getting fed the narrative. They're getting fed adult. When I say adult, I don't mean like violence, pornography, I don't mean anything like that. They're just getting fed adult content and they're not ready to consume that content from a maturity point of view.

Robby:

Which is causing what?

George:

Yeah, depression and social anxiety. The figures might say I'm guessing now, yeah, I'm just talking out loud, knowing how they would be thinking, and I just think it's a political ploy, more than anything, to show oh, look at us, we care about your kids, we want votes, vote for us. But I just don't reckon it's the way to solve the problem, if that problem really does exist.

Robby:

I agree. I think it's the whole zoo animals thing right? Does that work? If you raise zoo animals, as soon as they go into the wild they die Do? You know what I mean. If you raise children in a protected environment, as soon as they go out and face the real world they get eaten up all the time.

George:

And then on their 16th birthday they've never been exposed to anything ever before.

Robby:

And then they've been protected the whole time and it's like let them learn how to deal with life.

George:

That's the best fucking analogy in this scenario. Yeah, yeah. So let's just say they're successful and they somehow ban children from under 16-year-olds from having a social media, which they can't, which they won't do, because, I promise you, if there's a 14, 15-year-old kid, are you 16 years old, you're saying, and there's going to be parents that don't give a fuck either. But regardless, let's just say they somehow find a way to make sure that you are 16 years and over. And then you're right, they go cool, I'm now 16. Bang, here you go. Here's all the violence, here's all the pornography, here's all the shit that you weren't meant to see. Now, deal with it mentally. Oh well, you're a 16-year-old, you should be okay. You're a 16 year old, you should be okay, 100%. I think that's a really good analogy.

Robby:

Are your kids on social media?

George:

No, no, they're way too young. Oh sorry. I mean they watch YouTube. Yeah, I think like YouTube kids and stuff like that, like children's stuff on YouTube, yeah, but my son will watch reels and stuff like that, but around things he is interested in gaming and some of the influences that are out there, those kid influences and shit like that. Yeah, there's so much MrBeast videos. I'm sure he would come across adult stuff too From time to heart time.

George:

I've heard swearing on YouTube video he's watching. It'll say fuck or it'll say shit or whatever it is, and we'll know, we'll look at him and then he'll sort of flick it over. I don't I'm not really that protective around swearing with my kids like I've sworn in front of them, but I also made it any particular words. I'll say fuck 100. I've said it to him, I've said it to myself. I said oh, don't fuck around, yeah, yeah. And he starts laughing. He's like, oh, funk, hey. And I. But I explained to him though it's like hey, just because you hear me swearing or an adult swearing, it doesn't make it okay for you to swear have you.

George:

I said so you don't let the kids swear I don't know if he swears I within context, do you know what I mean. If he said it to someone, or to me, or to the mum, or to his mum, hey, fuck you, cool dude, you want to play this game, you will play this game. But if he's like I don't know playing basketball and he misses a shot and he's like fuck, I'm like cool, just get back up there, do it again, I don't stress too much about that. Yeah, fair enough, as long as it's respectful. Like I would never say don't swear at someone in a disrespectful manner. But if you're swearing, do you reckon parents get?

Robby:

offended. 100%, 100%. Isn't it funny, like his face made a sound and now you're upset. So true, that's what happened. His face made a sound and now you're like I'm offended don't think about what it's like.

George:

Think about what they're noise, their words, they are words that you have put meaning behind, yeah, which is why it makes you feel so, and it was a word said is a sound, yeah, okay, if I say, if I say all right, fuck you, okay me, yeah, fuck you all right. Offended 100 I've said, but I'm with this still offended but does it mean anything to you?

Robby:

means, I don't understand.

George:

Great, yeah, but it doesn't mean anything. I still say you say I said the same thing to you, but in a different language, but because you have no meaning to what, yeah, that's. That means. It's like oh, I'm not offended by that, doesn't mean anything. Well, hang on, fuck. You was the same thing.

Robby:

People are funny men, they're. But yeah, yeah, I heard someone share that with me the other day. They're like, his face made a sound and I was like that is so true, like that's what happened. His face made a sound and now you're like, and it's like, but yeah, long story short, I well two things. One I don't think the protection, the overprotection. I'm not a parent, I'll preface everything I say by that, but I don't think the overprotection of kids serves the kids. I think that we look at life and we see that it's usually the people that have faced some level of adversity that tend to be successful in the real world. And I think protecting your kids from every single thing and not allowing them to build that muscle, joe.

George:

Rogan said that too, he goes. Like in the history of his podcast he's obviously interviewed some pretty successful and high ticket people and he goes. One of the most fucked up things I've noticed is that a lot of the people that have achieved that super success and that super wealth have really come from difficult places as well. So a level of adversity, a level of challenge or whatever it might be, he goes. Those really successful guys he goes.

George:

There's not that many that were given a silver spoon and had an easy life and then made billions of dollars and dollars. Yeah, I'm sure they're right, that's what he was saying. He goes. The vast majority. There are some there because I've noticed that the people that were drugged, that were fucking once druggies fucking had needles out of their arms or been abused by their parents or whatever. Something bad happens when they're homeless for 10 years living on the streets and are now multi-billionaires. They hit rock bottom. That was their rock bottom. Bottom bottom Couldn't go any lower than that. So anything more than that was always a bonus and it's just like they ended up hitting the stars.

Robby:

Isn't that what life's all about? Like in the sense of, isn't it just an emotional rollercoaster and then you're going to be gone?

George:

Man, it's a ride. I heard that it's like life is a whole bunch of nothing, right, absolutely nothing. Dust, yeah, universe, cosmos, atoms there's nothing that exists. Then there's you, your little little existence slice of existence. Then there's a whole lot of nothing again. I didn't hear before and after. It's like nothing and nothing. And then it's like you yeah, it's like.

George:

I like to look at it as a story and as adventure. Right, imagine you get to tell the story of your life when you're on your last day. All right, your last day is here. You get to go. Everyone gather around. I'm going to tell you my story, like, do you really want to look back and go oh, played it safe. Let me tell you a story of how I did the bare minimum and got through life. Yeah, right, nothing happened to me. Nothing, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I worked nine to five for 30 years. I went on a couple of holidays Not far, obviously Went to like New Zealand because it was the most like Australia, yeah. Or I went to Bali because it was cheap, yeah, I went to Hamilton Island once and caught a boat there, Someone says that.

Robby:

Someone says whenever you're in a tough spot, just think this is going to be a sick part of the story. Sick story. Yeah, this is a great part of the story. Yeah, To tell when I sit down and say, like you know, I was free, I didn't know I was going to pay my rent. Whatever it might be, I went through that.

George:

I was struggling, I had my last hundred bucks and I went in here Exactly. But whatever it is, you fucking lived it. You know what I mean. You took the risk, you went out, you did these things, you didn't fuck around.

Robby:

Let me say something on the sidetrack. Listen, no, you don't Without it today. Listen to this. This is how I picture life. Okay, I see it as the more life's a straight line, and most people live pretty fucking close to that line. Do you know what I mean? They don't do anything overly exciting, but they also don't experience much at the end yeah Right, the line is safe. Yeah, the line is safe. Yeah, the line is safe and they experience it as close to as possible. But here's the thing when you go one way, it opens up the same amount the other way. That's how I picture it.

Robby:

Like, if you want to make a billion dollars, if you lost all that, you would be rock bottom. That would be very hard to go from having billions of dollars to nothing. That person is now below the line because they've experienced a different life. If you've lived all the way below the line, you've now got the muscle to be able to do. You know what I mean and you can go up and down. And one of the people that I think that has experienced this the most that's alive now is Mike Tyson. Do you knowyson joe? And that guy has experienced the lows of low like. He's experienced some pretty like drugs. Lost his daughter, you know, when she was like a four years old, yeah, but also at one point was the baddest man on the planet, making hundreds of millions of dollars, had tigers, and do you know what I mean? Like his experience life on the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And if they said to you hey, man, imagine I'm god and I'm like, hey, george, so we're gonna put you into life. You know, live till 100. Now you can live this life here where you're gonna have some highs and you you're going to have some lows and you're going to have some great experiences, and sometimes it's going to be fucked. Like, sometimes you're going to be like what the fuck, this is fucked, and sometimes you're going to be on top of the world. Or you can live this life here where it's just going to be kind of stable and mediocre the whole time and you're not going to experience great things, but you're also not going to experience that much adversity. Yeah, at the end you're going to die and you're going to come back here.

Robby:

Yeah, which one are you picking? Do you know what I mean? Do you want to play the fun game or do you want to play the fucking boring game. Do you want to watch the good movie or do you want to watch the bad movie? Yeah. Do you want to read the good book or do you want to read the book? That's boring. Imagine reading a book or watching a movie where it's like this guy was born and he had everything he wanted and then he went and did the thing and everything went well. Or just yeah, it's like yeah, mission possible.

Robby:

It does sound like leverage trading with your life. Leverage trading with your life, yes, so you can do leverage trading in stocks it has high risk, high reward yeah, it's the same thing.

Robby:

It's like high risk, high reward. But it's like someone shared with me a video the other day of dana white, big fan. I'll get him on the pod saying and guess what, if you go and you take that risk, you can probably go back to what you're fucking doing now. If it doesn't work. Do you know what I mean? Like that's life like go, take it, your shitty job. Probably gonna be there when you get back if you fail.

George:

Hey, I just had a random thought we should take the podcast up when we go to state. Okay, done, done, we should take the podcast up and then we'll get. Well, maybe we'll find someone interesting. Say oi, onto our podcast, we'll go.

Robby:

We're gonna go film a couple episodes or just get a studio, or just get GC. Yeah, jump on do it.

George:

We'll see you in there you would.

Robby:

That is 100%. And just, I'll start give me a minute. Start DMing people right now and just say, hey, we're in the area. We're in the area in March. Get on the pod. Yeah, let's go book a studio. Here's people to it. I dig it. How's that for sideways? Good, yeah, made it off. Yeah, what were we talking about before that? How did we get onto Mike Tyson?

George:

I'll just lie If you said ups and downs, and he's experienced some significant ones.

Robby:

Yeah, dude him. And another person, donald Trump. Yeah, except, yeah, Donald Trump's experienced some significant like dude Dave were trying to take him down. I don't think there's anyone who's had a worse media press Like they went after him. What do you reckon the feeling is around him now, though? I reckon they love him now. Yeah, but I think that's the thing. They went after him, yeah.

George:

Couldn't work and now he's the most likely. Oh yeah, see, you get my leverage. I keep watching and it could be the narrative that the algorithm is feeding me. What I want to see. Do you know what I mean? He's seeing stuff like his positive influence that he's had and he's not even in power yet. And how many people are coming out and saying these things and organizations are changing their ways and other global leaders are going yes, we can't wait to work with Trump. I heard something like the Taliban were saying we want to get taken off the terrorist list. Like how do we work with America and Trump? And all this is random shit. Just because he's about to come into power, because his hand hovers like this, he's like don't fuck around, I'll press the button, don't fuck around.

Robby:

Yeah, he's a powerful dude, Dude I went after him.

George:

Yeah, you think about what he went unless a person would have broken down or given up guarantee but it's like he experienced the adversity.

Robby:

He did not stop and he did not stop.

George:

You know. When he came into power the first time around, I thought it was comical but he was able. Actually I um I thought it was comical in the sense that, like he's always been a personality and a tv, like a celebrity type person he hasn't been. You never thought of him as a political leader. You saw him as he wasn't a political leader.

Robby:

He wasn't, no, he that was what I mean. That's what I mean. His role of the dice in politics. Yeah, was that? That's what I just saw him as a businessman yeah, that's, but he was also.

George:

he was a very famous businessman in the sense he had the Apprentice. I didn't know about the Apprentice, I had seen it a few times. I never watched it in great depth, but point being is, everyone knew who Donald Trump was because, not so much because of his business acumen, but also, you know, he just did funny, like he was on WWE. You know what I mean. He was a character. Yeah, there was a storyline. Yeah, there was. There was a storyline of him and Vince McMahon. Have you seen the Vince McMahon doco? You should watch it On Netflix.

Robby:

Nah, I've seen it there. I've never Watch it. Yeah, it's worth watching. Were you rapist and some of Accused.

George:

Yeah, so nothing's been proven, but I don't know it's true, but anyway it's worth watching. And one of the stories on there was about him like billionaire versus billionaire, Vince McMahon versus Donald Trump, you know, and the loser had to shave their head. And Vince McMahon ended up shaving his head, obviously, but like he was that sort of a person Do you know what I mean? And then to think of him running for president. You're like, how is this clown running for president? You're like, how is this clown running for president? That's the early days, but now I don't see him like that anymore.

Robby:

I think of him when I see him and I think you're fucking he's also had some really good endorsements, but also I just look at him as Okay Someone I spoke to. I always ask this question I don't know if I've ever have dinner with one person in the whole world. Who would it be?

George:

Just one yeah, your mom. No, no, no, yeah, I can do that anytime, yeah you should do that.

Robby:

There's a few. Here you go, iggy, your mom.

George:

She'd love your dinner. It'd be amazing Traditional Lebanese food, Surely, I mean there's a few people I don't know. It's hard.

Robby:

It's a very tough question. I used to say, I used to say Tony Robbins. I don't say that anymore, but I think it's a great question because it it shows who. Who do you think like? Whose time do you want? Who'd you love to hang around for a couple hours? I'd probably do like a homosia or something.

George:

I was just thinking I was going to go down the path of.

Robby:

I saw the few that I was thinking of GC would be annoying Really, I don't think so. I don't think it would be annoying. I'd be like, come on man, eat faster. No, no.

George:

So he's like I don't think he would leave. I don't think he would be like that one-on-one.

Robby:

You. I don't think that's on the map. I think he's a full-on guy. He's one of those guys where seeing him in small doses would be sick, but if you had to live with him.

George:

It'd be annoying. I remember when I went and saw him and what the deciding factor was Okay, yeah, so I went and saw in 2019, I think it was Success Resources was pulled down. Gary Vaynerchuk, I should go to a convention. Yeah, absolutely Do they. They got one coming up.

Robby:

They've always got them on, but mainly, I think, like Singapore and stuff.

George:

Oh, it should not so much Australia. I haven't done it for many years.

Robby:

Yeah.

George:

Anyway. So Gary Vaynerchuk came down. He, Gary Vaynerchuk, came down. He was the headlining speaker. I remember that there was about 5,000 people at Convention Center. Was it Convention Center? Yeah, it was, anyway, whatever. So it was about 5,000 people in this room. And he came on and this guy, grant Cardone, never fucking heard of him, never knew who he was. I think I literally went on Instagram that morning to see who Grant Cardone was and I think he had.

George:

Oh, you'd never heard of him. Never heard of him, not once in my life. And it was him and Gary Vaynerchuk that were headlining the training.

Robby:

Yeah, I remember that event. Yeah, did you go too? No, I didn't go. I was feeling I didn't go.

George:

Yeah, so he was there. He was there and so Gary on before Gary. So Gary was the main show and the funny thing is, gary was shit. I didn't enjoy Gary and I was a big Gary Vaynerchuk fan back then.

Robby:

That's why I listened, I went with my brother, I listened, so Gary used to do the talks and he used to turn into a podcast.

George:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I listened to a podcast. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was.

Robby:

I just thought it was a bit boring.

George:

It wasn't so much that it's just even the questions he was answering were just shit questions and he was just like I knew he was going to answer because I'd been pretty deep in his content back then. And who else? Oh, kerwin Ray spoke that day, spoke really well. Graham Holm spoke that day, spoke really well. I actually bought Graham Holm's three-day webinar thing that he did at that time. Then GC came on and GC was selling a bootcamp mastermind for three days in Sydney in the following two weeks after.

George:

I didn't buy that when I was there, but his talk impacted me. He was talking about people wanting more and doing more and being great and all that sort of shit, and he wasn't as eccentric as he is now. I don't think he was a little bit more toned down back then. Anyway, I think he went to Hamilton Island or some shit for a holiday just before he did his bootcamp at Sydney and he did a video and he was standing on the beach and he was just talking like a normal human being and he was speaking about what it took for him to be where he is now, how much work it took, how he wished he had mentors, how he wished he had advisors and he goes. I just really want someone to come. He goes this is what I'm doing. I'm holding a bootcamp for everyone that wants to come down there. Blah, blah, blah. And I remember watching that video and going fuck me, I'm going to go. And I bought my ticket after the event to go to the two-day bootcamp.

George:

Oh so you went yeah, I paid, I got a VIP ticket, did it? Yeah, it was him the whole time, it was him and his team. Two-day bootcamp. There was probably 300 people there. Probably most of the people had paid between two and two and a half thousand dollars. So I got a VIP ticket which meant I sat towards the front. I think I paid two and a half, three grand to be at that bootcamp.

George:

And then what? Oh, and at that, like I was riding, like I got a lot out of it. That was probably the first personal development type course I'd ever done. I reckon was his and I got a lot out of it. I even remember I bought his online university or some shit like that, paid 10 grand for it and got the ticket to go to 10X Growth Con and all that sort of shit, and that's so. When I saw him on that video, I felt that that was a more real Grant Cardone if that makes sense, more than that persona he always puts on. And then when I saw him in real life at that event, it was a similar thing too, like he was eccentric to a degree, but it was more just. No, no, this is what I do, this is what I'm about. This is how I come through.

Robby:

I say I wouldn't, I'm a fan.

George:

I'm just saying I don't think he would be as annoying as you think if it was a one-on-one thing. Like, was a one-on-one thing, Like I don't think he'd be like you know that, Carrie, Like it would have been one of these. Yeah, let's have dinner. It's like how much fries do you want? I wouldn't look into it. Dx, tend to me about your fries. Don't fuck around. Give me all the sides that are doing this shit. I don't feel that White would be a great conversation. Elon Musk, Dana White would be a great conversation. Dude, Elon Musk would be kind of cool. I used to think the Rock would be in that conversation too.

Robby:

Yeah, you know what he is with the Rock. I just feel like he is the Rock.

George:

Maybe you'll get a different version of that if it's one-on-one, you reckon, I don't know. I do admire Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think that would be really cool from a person that's achieved so many great things and become number one in so many different areas of his life. Jordan Peterson, jordan Peterson I just think I would feel dumb.

Robby:

You reckon During the whole conversation, I reckon, yeah, again, he'd be like, well, that's a funny question, and then he'd go on some rant, and then he'd just be like, shut the fuck up.

George:

We just said that. We just said that. Jordan, ready when you are. What's my ready? I think it's your phone, not mine. Mine's on the chair oh, it is mine. There you go. It's a 16, isn't it 16 Pro? It is a 16. That's why everyone knew it was ringing. You think I play games.

Robby:

Anyway. So who would you have dinner with? You don't have to answer it, but listen. The reason why I brought it up was because, funnily enough, the person who's calling me right now this question a long time ago and they said Donald Trump. Yeah, and I was like that's a weird answer. Like 10 years ago, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he come to become president and blah, blah, blah.

Robby:

And all I remember thinking was, when he got elected was we could all have dinner with him. Someone wants to have dinner with him? Fuck, you'll have a Mac with him. It was hey, we him. How do you have a Mac with him? It was hey, so Gunny had a Mac with him. A Mac, yeah, what do you mean? It's the only Mac. Big Mac, a big Mac. Oh, a big Mac, you don't have to wear it. I just remember thinking I have immense respect for this bloke because he's been able to achieve everything he like, to the extent where he's like, fuck, I'm gonna go for president. And he went and did it and won and won get. I mean, like, didn't just run like Kanye, yeah, that would be a great president to have dinner with as well, by the way. Yeah, because, like, that would be a weird dinner, but it's a great question.

Robby:

Yeah yeah another great question is well, why don't we? Oh sorry, what is it? I don't know what you're going to say.

George:

I was going to say we should come to each other's dinners. Then we get two people.

Robby:

That's cheating, is it? It's cheating. I think I'm here not to bend the rules. You've got to play by the rules. Another great question is if you could live anywhere in the world, where would this right now live in? Like Mount Waverley or something. And you're like Mount Waverley? Sublime is so small. Think a little bit bigger, because you saying that you live in your dream suburb either means that you're living your dream life or you've shrunk down your dreams. Yeah, and I dare say it's the latter.

George:

Would you want to live anywhere else other than Australia? Yes, live properly, like pack up your life and stay there.

Robby:

Yeah, look, I would like to, at some point in my life, live somewhere else, just at some point. I think there is a great learning experience that comes from it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. And whether it's a different state, whether it's a different city, whether it's a different, I've moved suburbs when we grew up and that's been, in my opinion, the greatest thing ever. And I think, moving cities. Would you come to Melbourne if you didn't live in Melbourne? I think so. Why?

George:

So would you.

Robby:

If your whole family was in Queensland and you'd sit there, or Sydney and you'd be like I'm moving to Melbourne.

George:

Oh, moving to Melbourne. That's what I'm saying. See, I don't know If everyone. I think I've got a deep connection with my life here. Do you know what I mean? I think I've got a deep connection with my life here. Do you know what I mean? I'd find it difficult to move away.

Robby:

It's called comfort.

George:

Yeah, well, it's comfort, but it's also a want Like I don't have the desire to Do. You know what I mean. Yeah, like I feel like I'd miss it, like I was just saying somebody used to say I think it was a guy on some podcast in America or something Because often people in America tend to move states. I don't think they often stay there, whether it's a university, that's right and they're like well, how old are your parents? And they'd be like my parents are 70 years old, 60, 70 years old.

George:

He goes cool. How often do you go home to see them for Christmas or whatever he goes? How often do you go each year? He goes. I might go once a year for Christmas. He goes cool. So if your parents now live to 80, because that's 10 more times you're going to see your parents for the rest of your life and then so he goes. As soon as I put that into that perspective, like holy fuck, just only 10. And that's kind of how I feel if I was to move, like I wouldn't want to. I'm not saying just specifically about my family, yeah, yeah, I'm doing everything in that.

George:

Aspect of the whole life is here.

Robby:

I will. There's two things with that. How often do you see your parents now?

George:

Oh, I see my dad regularly because we work together. Oh, I see you, I'd say, at least fortnightly. Yeah, that's pretty regularly yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, that's good, because a lot of people don't.

George:

I try and make an effort to go to my mum's once a week. Yeah, I think if I was single and didn't have family, I'd be there regularly. I'd probably go past at least weekly. Yeah, I try and have dinner there on a weekend, or something like that. That's what I do. I.

Robby:

I try and have dinner there on a weekend or something like that. That's what I do. I try and go and have dinner there once, usually once a week, I probably-.

George:

Things will probably come up that you don't go over, for whatever reason it might be. A wife gets in the way, whatever it might be.

Robby:

I reckon I might miss two weeks in the year, or maybe three. I go pretty regularly, yeah, but there, I go pretty regularly, yeah, but there's people who make that argument, who don't, and they're like they live, their parents live 20 minutes away and they just don't really see them. Do you think 20 minutes drive is far?

George:

me yeah, 20 minute half hour drive. You think that's far? No, I never have either. Someone says someone's off 30 minutes away. I'm like, oh cool, says you're close.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, I don't mind. A lot of people are like what 30 minutes? Fuck, I thought it could have come that far. I think there's a Tesla will run out of battery. Level of meditation to Charlie. Yeah, I like it too, sense of meditation. But let me go back to what I was saying. So I agree with you in the sense of 100%, like that is a factor. That is something you're giving up? Yeah, it is. That's without a doubt you need to. It's a you're gonna trade that off. That's a trade off. Yeah. But I also look at it like this my grandpa left his whole family to come here, left everything, and now we get to live a pretty fucking sick life because he chose to do that. Yeah, you know what I mean. For whatever reason. Yes, there was a whole bunch of other stuff, but he left everyone and he came here. Yeah, my dad did the same thing. Yeah, if they thought in the same way, he wouldn't have left and I'd be sitting in Lebanon. Do you ever wonder that? Not speaking English?

George:

No. Do you ever wonder what your life would be like if you lived in Lebanon? Because I did. I haven't recently, but I used to. I used to think, fuck, you wouldn't have anything else. Exactly, I can imagine my dad never left. I would be a stereotypical Greek village guy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, my dad was from a small village on one of the larger islands. Small village on one of the larger islands, but I guarantee I'd be there. I'd probably be in the family business.

Robby:

I'd probably be Doing the same thing everyone else is doing thinking I guarantee I'd be a smoker. That's it, 100%. I'd be a smoker. How different would life be? Yeah, and who's to say that in some level you don't owe it to your offsprings or your life? You know what I mean.

George:

Like imagine your son was going to be the next Elon Musk, but he's a bit of a weird cat. Couldn't be like. I don't have a line to be, but what are you laughing at?

Robby:

nothing I did um, but he's a bit. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, he is. He's very strange, but like I love him. He's also impacting the world.

George:

I so admire what he's done. Yeah, I just think he's a bit of a strange cat. Of course he's gonna be a strange cat.

Robby:

I think you need to be, yeah there has to be a level of obsession he's like for everyone offended anyone I've ever offended. I'm also taking us to Mars. I've set up satellites all around the world. I've made electric cars. I think I've done this. I've done that. I've done that. Did you think I was going to be fucking normal? Exactly, yeah, every tech billionaire is weird. Mark Zuckerberg doesn't look even human. Yeah, I'm convinced he's not. And dude, just stare at him when he does stuff and you're like this could be a robot.

Robby:

I haven't looked at him in that depth, but if they thought in the same way you're thinking now, I'm not trying to mess with your head If they thought in the same way you're thinking, you would not be. I wouldn't be here. If my grandpa thought that way, I would be in Lebanon now getting bombed. Yeah, like they're. All you know what I mean War-torn country, and it's like.

George:

So if you made that decision, yeah, and who knows, you're single now. Right, you go and live in fucking Dubai and you find the love of your life and then she's a multi-billionaire. Yeah.

Robby:

Oil mongol and then become a stay-at-home dad. Uh, they're good do you know what I mean. Like I can't lose it yet. It's just a um, I'll know I'll pay for the tickets you can. I feel like you can live in the wall that they're building, are they? Building a wall. Yeah, the what's that? You know what I'm talking about. That show donald trump's wall. No, it's bigger. It's bigger than that, oh yeah.

George:

Great Wall of China. Oh, you haven't seen it, is it? Maybe it's in Saudi, it's that long mirror wall, but the city that's in Saudi, saudi, yeah, sick.

Robby:

Yeah, have you ever started that? Yeah, nah, like maybe five years, nah, I think it's going to take a while, man, more than five years.

George:

I think it's like a 50-year plan, like this thing's next level shit. 50 years, it's telling you.

Robby:

Anyway, it's telling you yeah, that's how Dubai's not even that old. That's how who Dubai. But that's how I think about it. That's how I think about it and I think, if I think that way, like okay, so I'm just going to stay here for the rest of my life, like that's it. And then it's like you can go. Is this the place you'd choose if you could go? Probably not, don't know. Would it be the top of the list? Don't get me wrong.

George:

If you could go, probably not Tell me.

Robby:

Would it be the top of the list. Don't get me wrong. I think Australia is a fucking great country, dude. Yeah, I think it's phenomenal. But I think if I had to pick a city in Australia, I would without a doubt go to Sydney. Without a doubt, from a business aspect, like if I was picking, I would not move from Melbourne to Sydney. Melbourne's big enough. But if I was coming to Australia fresh, I would go to Sydney. Yeah, I think a lot of people would as well.

George:

It's just like the big city.

Robby:

Yeah yeah, interesting conversation. Hey, yeah, you know what else is an interesting question.

George:

No, I don't, but I feel like you're going to tell me what is he laughing for? What are you laughing for?

Robby:

So you were going to say I'm a bad actor how was? I acting.

George:

I was being serious. No, yeah, but I feel like you're going to tell me what the answer to the question is.

Robby:

It's not a question. I want you to make a salt statement, a salt statement.

George:

Now a really interesting question is why haven't? Some people subscribed, they probably listen. We probably get a lot of people listening to this, but do they actually click the red button?

Robby:

Why haven't they? I reckon the most recent. I was watching a clip and it's like click here. Yeah, we're like click here. And they's like click here, yeah, we're like click here. And they're like something's gonna pop up here and nothing does so. You never got, you're not even gonna put a button. Nothing pops up, shit.

George:

Lyle, get it together, man. Come on, lyle. What's going on, bro? Um, that's broken my heart. Guys, don't do that. Look, don't subscribe that. Look, don't subscribe. It's not worth it. That's not worth it. If you, okay, if you, if you want mediocre, don't subscribe. Yeah, yeah, if that's what you're going for, if, that's what you're going for.

George:

If you want to have the same year next year, yeah, don't subscribe. You shouldn't subscribe. This isn't for you. This isn't a place like that. Analogy Fuck, that was good enough. I'm going to use it in my training. Dead set, I'm going to trade my-. Fuck mate, oh shit, I'm going to use it. I've got a training coming up in two weeks. I'm dead set. Going to use it. I'm going to rip it off. I'm going to bring it back to you and give it to you, reframe it. You put it on your wall. So, yeah, if you want mediocre, if you just want to play it safe, if you're not the type of person that wants to achieve amazing shit, do not subscribe to this channel.

George:

But if you do want to make millennials, if you do want to be the best version of yourself, if you want to level up, if you want to impact people in such a meaningful way that the generations will remember your name, stop fucking around and subscribe to this channel. Guys, thanks for listening. Cannot wait till next week, but until then I hope you have a million dollar day. Bye, everybody.

People on this episode

Contributor

George Passas

Host
Contributor

Robby Choucair

Host