Million Dollar Days
Welcome to Million Dollar Days with Robby Choucair & George Passas. Your go-to podcast for a deep dive into the world of Life and Business Mastery.
Join hosts Robby Choucair and George Passas, a dynamic marketer and a seasoned Entrepreneur, as they navigate through an array of intriguing topics ranging from the everyday to the extraordinary.
Robby brings his marketing expertise to the table, offering insights into the latest strategies and trends. George, with his extensive experience in business, provides a grounded, practical perspective. Together, they explore everything from the feasibility of alien existence to effective goal setting, and even the nuances of religion.
Million Dollar Days is not just about business acumen; it's an exploration of life's many facets, wrapped up in conversations that are as enlightening as they are entertaining.
Tune in and be part of our journey, where every day is a million-dollar day, filled with learning, laughter, and the pursuit of mastery.
Million Dollar Days
Christmas is Not About Religion
As the holiday season approaches, tensions rise over the celebration of Christmas in increasingly diverse societies. In this episode, Robby and George navigate the delicate balance between respecting religious beliefs and upholding cultural traditions. They discuss the impact of political correctness on holiday celebrations and explore the potential consequences of excessive sensitivity. By examining the historical and cultural significance of Christmas, they aim to foster understanding and promote tolerance.
Shifting our focus, we challenge the traditional notion of workplace culture by debating if companies should operate like families or professional sports teams. In an era where performance and accountability reign supreme, is unconditional loyalty truly beneficial? We explore the dynamics of team-oriented mindsets, using examples from Netflix and professional sports, to highlight why skills and contributions might serve organizations better than familial metaphors. This conversation invites you to rethink how workplace relationships impact business success.
Finally, we venture into the world of sports ownership and strategic business management. Hear about the remarkable transformation of the National Basketball League (NBL) in Australia and how strategic moves can turn struggling teams into thriving ventures. We delve into the potential impact of privatization and how significant investments could reshape Australian sports. Alongside these discussions, we address the influence of social media on sports personalities and business practices, offering insights into managing criticism with emotional intelligence. With a mix of personal anecdotes and real-world examples, this episode promises a thought-provoking journey through cultural celebrations, workplace dynamics, and the evolving landscape of sports and business.
Merry Christmas, mate. Thank you, and same to you, sir. Thank you, even though you're muzzy and don't believe in it. Do you ever celebrate Christmas in your house on any capacity? Not even a little bit? Yeah, is it a foreign thing to you? No, because it was during school. Were you ever upset that everyone's getting presents and shit like that, even as a young kid, or it wasn't really a thing for you guys? I wasn't upset, no, but it was just like a. It was a public holiday. Yeah, it was just like a day off. Yeah, that's how I saw it. It was a day off. Yeah, nice, I guess a day off, because that's a big holiday in this country. Well, happy holidays to everyone not celebrating Christmas. Merry Christmas to everyone celebrating Christmas. And we thought, hey, what better gift to give people than a fucking Million Dollar Days podcast?
Speaker 1:Then a new episode. I can't wait. It's Christmas Day, special Christmas Day. I'm posting this. This episode is definitely going to go up. What is that? Five, six more days to the end of the year. Yeah, you just remind me of something I, um, I used to work at mercedes-benz, right, and I remember.
Speaker 1:You know, you know, some people are so oblivious to what they've never experienced. And I had a team leader and his name was kyle. Kyle, you're listening to this. It's crack and kyle get it together. He goes what are you doing for christmas? And I said I don't celebrate christmas. And he's like what do you mean? And I said I'm muslim. And then he said what the fuck's that got to do with it? I said we don't celebrate christmas. He goes christmas has nothing to do with religion. I was was like wait, christmas is just holidays and giving it's got nothing to do with religion. And I just looked at him and I thought it kind of has everything to do with religion. So if you haven't worked that out yet, kyle, get it together. No, but look, I like his. I was just about to say that I like the thought process he had around it. Yeah, the thought process here. Yeah, you know and and I know people now that even though they don't celebrate Christmas like they're not Christians or Catholics or those two, but they're just all about Christmas, right. Yeah, they're not Christians or Catholics, but they'll still get a Christmas tree. Yeah, and they're just like it's just, it's just the holidays, it's a celebration. Yeah, do you know what I mean? I would have a christmas tree up. I don't see anything wrong with that? Yeah, I don't think so either. It's a lebanese tree. That's it. It's the. Is it not be whatever tree you want? Lebanese made christmas. Absolutely, I've invented it. So Great concept behind it.
Speaker 1:I hate the whole politically correct driven agenda around Christmas. Sometimes I don't think it's as bad as it used to be, but it probably what's that? It's like they would never say Merry Christmas or never put up Christmas decorations oh, they'll resolve, you know, because they didn't want to offend people who weren't celebrating Christmas, I don't know. Or or say happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas, shit like that. Yeah, that's gay. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I just see it.
Speaker 1:This is predominantly a Christian society, or whatever it is, catholic society, christian society, and I think when you go to say Dubai, for example, they don't conform to other religions just because they don't want to hurt someone's feelings. Do you reckon that most of Australia is Christian? Oh, I don't know. Maybe I would say yes. Yeah, yeah, I probably would say yes, I mean, we're one of the most multicultural countries in the world. Someone's thinking like an entrepreneur. Yeah, this company I mean country doesn't stop. And yeah, I think it's silly when companies even buy into that, or governments or schools and all that sort of shit. I just think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I'm with you, but again, I'd be happy for them to change that whole process around and say, look, yeah, christmas is a religious holiday and it is a religious celebration. However, let's just celebrate the fact that we're all together, we're on holidays, yeah, but like, okay, so why? Okay? So what's the issue with? If this is your religious holiday, why can't I be happy for you? Yeah, exactly, I don't mean, like, what is that you do there? Like, why can't I just say, yeah, man, this is a religious holiday. Um, matter of fact, I'm gonna join you for lunch. Yeah, because it's about company and it's about I brought you a christmas present. Yeah, you know what I mean. I see nothing wrong with that at all. Couldn't agree more. Um, yeah, and why don't we? Why don't we have that sort of mentality? I don't know, man, is it just the left being left and trying to get as much as they can, pushing their agenda? Who knows? But I, I feel that it's sort of coming back to the middle a little bit more so now, as in people, I don't see that being that much of an issue around. You know, we said so.
Speaker 1:Our office is on on bay street in port melbourne. For a couple of years there they wouldn't put up christmas decorations. So you know how the shop fronts I put the stickers on the yeah on the front, um, those yes, I'm merry Christmas trees, all that sort of shit. Then for a couple of years there there was another mayor in the area and they didn't put anything up regarding Christmas. Rather, they had a beach theme, they had fish, they had dolphins. The previous years I had elves and reindeers and Christmas trees and Santa and presents. And then they went to a beach theme and happy holidays.
Speaker 1:And it's like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, like stop being stupid. It's not offensive to put that shit up to people who don't celebrate Christmas, as you said, or that holiday. Yeah, and also like, if you get offended, leave. That's what I tell people all the time. Oh man, I hate this state, I hate this country, but leave. Why is it so? Go somewhere else. It's your. You know what I mean, even dude.
Speaker 1:Like, as bad as COVID was, there was people complaining about the state and like, yes, it was a rough time for some people. Like, leave, no one's holding you back, like you can get, and a lot of people did. And to those people, good on, they took some level of action. Yeah, a lot of people mean there was a huge exodus to queensland, massive, a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, when all that like moved out of, like a monthly thing, like there's 30 000 people leaving the state, like fuck this, we're not staying here, good on you. Well done to each and every one of those people Taking action. You weren't happy, you realized it. You did something about it, went out for 12 months, lived up there. Some people said, yeah, 100%, I want to go back to that state. And good on them, yeah, 100%, I'm big on like, if that bothers you, that might leave or do something about it.
Speaker 1:Yep, I want to run past the concept with you and I'm curious to see your thoughts. With your organization to your company now, would you ever refer to it as like your family, as in, say, you're having a team meeting or whatever and I'm like this is our family. Do you ever see some organizations refer to themselves as a family? Yeah, companies, you get where I'm going with that, like that concept of people going we're a family. Yeah, our onboarding email. Oh, it doesn't say hey, welcome to the family, welcome to the family, yeah. Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1:I heard something the other day which I am completely on board with and I, from this point on, will never refer Welcome to our client list. Yeah, but I will never again say like I'm talking not so much with a client, hey, welcome to the family, I'm talking to an actual team. Yeah, so I will never refer to us as a family ever again. Why? Because it's not. I'll tell you why. Why I'm going to tell you I don't see us as a family. Rather, we're a sport. I see it more as a sports team. Yeah, but so what's the difference between a team and a family? Well, how I like it and this is where I heard it, I believe it was Netflix that came out and said we're not a family, we're a sports team.
Speaker 1:Right, they're a professional sports team. So what do sports teams do? If you owned Carlton Football Club, right, they go out there, they pay for the best talent, they recruit the best people, they keep everyone accountable. It's a business, it is, it is. So, whilst I understand the whole concept of, yes, we're a family organization, we're a family here in this room. Truth be told, none of you will ever be rated higher than my actual family. I don't see you as a family, I see you as a team. We are a part of a team. We're going to be a successful team. We are going to celebrate amazing accomplishments. We're going to do all the things we need to do and the company the team sports team is going to look after you. The PASCON team, the Builder Elite team, the Carlton Football Club whatever that team is is going to look after you.
Speaker 1:You are temporary custodians of the jumper. Do you know what I mean? Not everyone is always. Everyone that's at my company at one time in their life is not going to be working here. They're either going to die I have been a really long time but they're either going to die, they're going to go to another organization, they're going to move into a different industry, or the company might not be around. This could be in 200 years. Who knows? Things are going to change At some stage. You're not going to wear this jumper anymore and I liked that concept.
Speaker 1:I really sat down and had a good think about it that no one at this organization is family. I should say that Technically, I'm blood related to a couple of people, but this isn't a family. And I like the idea of being a sports team. We're a professional sports team, we're not a family. And then, even from a stakeholder's point of view, if I go for Carlton which I don't, but if I did, I would want to know that my full forward isn't there because he's cousins with the CEO. He's there because he's a high performing athlete and he's going to do the best for the organization. Think about that with your clients. Okay, I don't agree. Cool, I'll tell you why. Because I don't think it's the. We're a family. You're my cousin, that's why you're in that position. No, no, I'm not saying the blood, I'm saying the whole concept around. We are a family, we're together.
Speaker 1:What does that mean when you say family? Yeah. What does that mean to you when you say family, as in my first initial thought, is my immediate family, yeah. But what does that mean to you when you say family, like as in my first initial thought, is my immediate family, yeah, but what does that mean to you? It means love, it means support, it means unconditional. Probably the unconditional is where it comes into play. For me, it's unconditional for you. That's right, like my kids touch wood, they go out on a massive massacre and kill 30 people. I still love you, serious. Yeah, let's sit on a cell together. Come, let's go do it. Yeah, do you know what I mean? As in, it's going to take a lot for me not to love my children. You know what I mean? My initial family? Yeah, it's unconditional, like there's not, there's very little you could do to change the way I feel, whereas that's not the case with employees. Yeah, it's your immediate family. That's what I mean. Yeah, so you have other people, I do. I have cousins and stuff like that, which, yes, I don't talk to or I would cut them off if they insult. What's wrong with you? You lied to me. Oh, triggering. So those that don't know do that. You don't know. Now, you know. Now you don't know. So it's.
Speaker 1:I just like the whole concept behind it. It was more of a professional relationship, an accountable relationship, as opposed to the family aspect of it. I guess it comes down to what you relate to as family, right? I guess it comes down to what you relate to as family right In the sense of so when I hear family, and the reason why and I guess I disagree, because we do it, you know, and even like oh, I've done it too, like, as in I've referred to it in that way, I've yeah, but like, isn't it an email along those lines? You know, welcome to the family. But after thinking about it and again, I'm a very logical person so when I hear about things like that, that makes sense to me, I'm like yeah, that's totally true, and I'm pretty sure it was Netflix that said that to someone. So we're not a family, we're a sports team. We see ourselves as a professional sports team. Yeah, but like.
Speaker 1:So when I think family, I think tightly knit and I think supportive of each other, there for each other and kind of driven by the same values. Because a family is like an organization yeah, it's a group of people, okay, and you have your chosen family too in life. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. There's people who you deem more family than your family. Yeah, like then, a second cousin or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. And it's like even a friend. Yeah, yeah, that's no. Like I'm saying someone that you have met in life, a friend that you classify more family, yeah, than the actual blood, an actual person who is in your ancestry? Yes, so my question to you is isn't that the same as a sports team?
Speaker 1:So you look at, I'm going to go cause I'll go for them say, hawthorne football club, in that period, where they won three premierships and all that stuff, don't you think you had that level of connection, support, morale around the team which was the? That is why, just maybe why that was so successful, which is maybe why that was so successful. But, yeah, but they probably saw themselves as a family. And, coming back to that, what does Hawthorne call himself? What the family club Do they? Yeah, oh, okay, so they call themselves the family club, but I think that's appealing more to family unity, yeah, families being a part of our football club. But ultimately they are a professional sports organization. You know, okay, think about this, do organization? You know, okay, think about this.
Speaker 1:Uh, do you follow the f1 at all? No, okay, so lance, lance stroll, who's the son of mr stroll? I don't know who is that anyway. The dad, greg, yeah, who owns aston martin. So he owns the actual company, aston martin, and then he runs the sports team as well. Yeah, arguably, lance stroll is on the team because of his dad. His dad owns the company. He's the F1 driver. He's one of the two drivers on the team because his dad owns the company. He's consistently underperforming. He's not as good as his teammate, he doesn't get points on the board and it's like everyone knows it.
Speaker 1:But what are you going to say to a guy that's worth billions of dollars? No, your son can't race. He goes oi, I bought the fucking company so my son could race. He's not going to give a shit what you say. He's going to get better one day and he might not. That's cool. He's still going to be racing longer than you. I own the company. Shut up before I buy a Ferrari. Do you know what I mean? So, but there's a situation where he's probably not the best suited candidate to be driving that car and that team could get more success if he wasn't in the car. Yeah, but so okay, then that thing is you need to question what his driving values are.
Speaker 1:That person you know what I mean Is he using that to get connection with his son? And if he is, how can you like he might not admit it, okay. So let me ask you this you have a son, absolutely. I know where you're going with this and it's totally. Yes, go Say it so I can answer it. Yeah, so you coach your son? Are you still coaching him? So you coach your son. Are you still coaching him? Yeah, do you need an assistant coach? Absolutely. You want to come join on? Yeah, just get him to run laps. I'll just run laps with him. Come on, before we all get in trouble.
Speaker 1:Do you think this guy has a bias towards his son? Not in the sense of do you think he thinks he's not that shit? Look, he's good enough, like you've got to be skilled to be one of the top 20 drivers in the world to be driving an F1 car. You've got to have a level of skill. He's not a thud, yeah. But do you think he thinks that someone else would be better fitted in that position? I reckon he would Deep down.
Speaker 1:I mean, the stats don't lie. It's a sport that's highly driven by numbers, yeah, and statistics. And humans do Sorry, humans lie. What do you mean by that? He might be lying to himself, yeah, yeah, I'm saying, look at the stats, but I know that he can do this. Or he's got this heart or he'll be justifying the position somehow. Yeah, there's no way. Or if the car's underperforming, yeah, or there's no way that we have a billionaire saying this isn't the best position and it's all my fault, like there's no way he's thinking that, yeah, not a billionaire, nah, he's a billionaire saying, oh you know, nah, it's all right, We'll come around. Or, or I don't want anyone else in that position.
Speaker 1:And you know, like, whatever excuse he's making, you're going to have some bias towards your son. Do you think you have a bias towards your son? No, I try not to. Yeah, because for this reason, do you think on a conscious level, I mean always, yes, always I would. But in the same token, I don't think it's going to help him become the best player If I go, yeah, yeah, you're always going to play in the forward line and kick a bunch of goals, yeah, 100%. And then he gets 10 shots on goals and kicks one. But no, no, no, you always play in the forward line. Yeah, yeah, so I do, and I still do move him around, but I try and tell him that too. I said hey, you played really well. Hey, not a great game today, that's right, jump back, get the train. Yeah, no, no, but like it's more so, like you'd have probably a little bit more leniency towards your son? Yeah, him making a mistake? Yeah, you'd probably leave him on and take him on the shot. And if someone else made a mistake that you knew wasn't great, he'd be like and I think 98% of people would Just the fights themselves too. Yeah, 98% of people would oh, yeah, but the ball bounced this way. Oh, you know, but the wind, oh this, oh the wet, or whatever. They're going to make an excuse every single time, 100%. But I think 98% of people would. Okay, so, perfect example.
Speaker 1:You're saying I'm biased on that sport level. What's the difference with him? He's just got billions of dollars To him. It's the same game. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, his son's in a billion-dollar industry. Yeah, yeah, no, it's exactly the same thing. It doesn't matter that I'm coaching little kids football, it is exactly it's like in business. Yeah, do you know what I mean? I get the CEO role. Yeah, yes, you see that too.
Speaker 1:I've heard. You know the son will get that position ahead of anyone. That's better fitted. That's right, because they've all better been at the company longer or better qualified, whatever it is. I've heard that's what happened at Linfox.
Speaker 1:Like Lindsay Fox is, he's got, I think, two sons, yep, and they've been shot up to the top, like because he's obviously, I think, two sons and they've been shot up to the top because he's obviously very old now I don't know how old. I had a friend who worked there he still works there, I think and yeah, he reckons one of the sons nicest guy you'll ever meet other one, absolute dick, like wanker of a human. But they get their positions because their dad is who he is. He built this thing. Are they both in charge? Yeah, I'm assuming they probably have different positions. Yeah, I don't know. I think I'd probably do the same thing in that position.
Speaker 1:And so you led onto that talking about family and team. Yeah, I was listening to it. I can't remember if it was in a podcast, I think it was. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was in a podcast. I can't remember which one now, but yeah, it got onto that topic and I thought did that that really make sense and resonated?
Speaker 1:That's not to say I don't value my employees. Do you think he shouldn't have him on? Oh, I do believe there's probably better drivers out there for them to take on. Yeah, but to answer my question, do you think he should not have his son in the positioning? I would probably do the same thing. Honestly, you certainly answered the question.
Speaker 1:I don't know what his motive is From your perspective. From my perspective, yeah, what's your opinion on it? Oh, there should be another driver in that seat, so he should replace him. Yeah, he should replace him, but he won't because it's family. Yeah, I'm assuming that. Yeah, no, no, we don't know. I don't know anything. But yeah, based off what I can see and how he's had the year, maybe it's just a bad year. Maybe he did Last year and this year he's not doing as well. Oh, he's having a bad year, maybe, who knows?
Speaker 1:Okay, so, based off other, okay, so how does it connect to the whole? We're a family in your business. Do you know what I mean? Because that's actually family. That's blood. Yeah, that's your son Calling everyone in your business a family.
Speaker 1:What's the downside? I don't know if there's a downside per se. What's the upside to not? I? Just, I personally resonated more with the structure of it and the mindset behind it. Yeah, that's all it was. But were you team? Sorry, were you team? I don't know. I could tell the question. Don't know, they're not. Well, they, some of them know they're not my family, but I haven't communicated that out to anyone or anything. Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe I can find it whilst we're talking as in where it came from. I don't know. I guess the way I see it is like team family, you know they're one in one. The same thing Like from a.
Speaker 1:From an overall perspective, your family is an organization, dude. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, how does poorly run businesses as poorly functioning families? Yeah, there is. Yeah, I mean there's families where the leader doesn't lead or no one leads. You know what I mean. Or they don't know how to? Leadership's the biggest thing, but they don't know how to educate their kids. If you go to jobsnetflixcom, they've gota whole document here. It's not a document, it's just a landing page per se and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 1:Culture, the best work of our lives, and it's going through everything. This document about the culture which is based on our four core principles the dream, the people and process, uncomfortability, exciting and great and always better and then it's gone into each one of those values in more depth, all right, and then it's gone here. So it's why they model themselves as a professional sport. So it's why we model ourselves on a professional sports team, not family.
Speaker 1:Families are about unconditional love. They can also be dysfunctional, as anyone. I'm trying to find that paragraph here now. Look, I get the concept. I just don't think there's a downside to saying we're a family. Do you know what I mean? Unless you're people? Okay, unless you're people, this is our thing. It's why we model ourselves. Okay, here's it, the dream team. It's why we model ourselves on a professional sports team, not family. Families are about unconditional love. They can also be as dysfunctional, as anyone who has watched oh, he's referring back to one of their shows knows professional sports teams Ozark, ozark, yeah, have you seen that one? Of course, not Everyone has what's wrong with you.
Speaker 1:Professional sports team, on the other hand, focus on performance and picking the right person for every position, even when it means swapping out someone they love for a better player. Yeah, I like that. I still resonate with that. Yeah, but I don't see how that is. They're just modelling themselves, not family. Well, they just said it in that sentence, or in those couple of sentences. They're modelling themselves off a sports team, not family. It's focused on performance and picking the right person for every position, even when that person family. It's focused on performance and picking the right person for every position, even when that person, even when that means swapping out someone they love for a better player. So it's like, okay, your son isn't the best player for this team, but you would do that in your family. Okay, your son and your daughter yeah, swap them out for another son or daughter.
Speaker 1:No, imagine you had to pick one to do one thing and they're like okay, we're going to pick, you're going to pick the fastest runner. Are you going to sit there like, oh no, I have to go with my daughter, or are you going to go with the fastest runner, which I'm assuming is your son, because my daughter? You're going to say, no, my son's a better fit for this. Now, there's something that your daughter might be better at. You'll do that. It's the same concept. It's like Netflix, isn't it? But I'm picking between my two. It's like saying, okay, in my office there's two people.
Speaker 1:I'm not looking externally, that's in the internal looking, that's looking at the business internally. I'm saying, okay, I've got Simon, I've got Angelo. I know his strengths are there and his strengths are there. But what if I've got external people that have better strengths than both of them? Maybe I should swap those two out. Oh, but we're a family, we look after each other. We're not supposed to do that. I'm supportive, yeah, I'm supporting you by letting you go. Yeah, I don't see seeing themselves. I wouldn't be as cutthroat.
Speaker 1:This seems to me like early Apple days. You know, steve Jobs kind of thing. Yeah, maybe how he had that authoritarian dictatorship at his business. Maybe they're trying to build a culture around it. They 100% are. That's literally their culture. The best work of our lives. Yeah, go check it out. For those of you listening, jobsnetflixcom. Check it out. I think it's a cool read. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just don't see the downside to saying hey, like everyone, once you're in the door, you're like, we're like family. Yeah, because, hey, you can cut your family off. Unlikely, though less likely too, aren't you? Hey, it's less likely for that to happen. Yeah, until they do the wrong thing by you. I know, but you're just saying you would cut any family member off if they did the wrong thing by you. Extended family, you would cut any family member off.
Speaker 1:If I was a drug addict and I robbed and stole from my parents, I would expect them to cut me off. Yep, now I can't relate, because I'm not a parent, but I would. Are you a drug addict or a drug addict? We just need to clarify. No, like you know, the unconditional love child. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I would expect them to be. Like enough, like there's got to be. There has to be a boundary. Yeah, some level of boundary, like you know what I mean. There has to be, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with you. There is a point, so unconditional. There is a point, but okay, that point might be A lot further down. Yeah, yeah, right. So, yeah, yeah, might be a lot further down the track, but in a sports team, that point might be a lot closer.
Speaker 1:So what are you going to give your full forward? Two really bad seasons in a row? You've employed him and pay him a million bucks a year to kick goals. Yeah, see, I don't see the family part as not as a. I'm going to treat you like my son, but as a. We're here to support each other. You know what I mean? We're a functioning unit.
Speaker 1:Dude, there's fucking dysfunctional families Absolutely there is and there's dysfunctional teams, dysfunctional teams, functional sports teams as well, yeah, where everyone talks about it, everyone's back and it happens. But this is the nature of groups of people, it is Right. And the family aspect just brings the let's care a bit. That's what I believe. Okay, you know what I mean. I need you to fucking care for each other. Like guys look out for each other. Like you know what I mean, would you let-. Don't you think sports teams care too, like all those guys that win championships in any sport, like they cared for their team? Yeah, but I think they care because they see them as family, not the other way around. It's not their family that they see as a sports team. Yeah, it's the other way around. Yeah, yeah, that's why they care. And they will say, like man, we've got like a brotherhood from that. You know that? Yeah, from that, yeah, it's like a. You know what I mean? It's like a thing that we'll never forget, and that's the aspect I see. I don't see it as being the other side. But hey, man, maybe Netflix will build the best business in the world and I'll be wrong, who knows. Which is possible. Yeah, I mean, they're massive company.
Speaker 1:The other day I was sitting in a. Um, well, I said the other day, but yesterday. I always say the other day when I'm referring to like three years ago, yeah, yeah, yesterday was it yesterday? Yesterday, sitting in an ice bath and there's another guy in there and he's like it's colder, it blah, blah, it's colder, yeah, it's like freezing.
Speaker 1:And we got to talking and I was like he's like what do you do? I told him what do you do? He's like I'm a professional athlete. Okay, like what do you play? He's like footy. I was like AFL. He's like yeah, I was like and I'm thinking, fuck, I should probably notice this guy and I don't reckon he'd never seen in my life. So I was like who do you play for? And he's like North and I'm like cool man, I like to full due respect, I don't recognize you. What's your name? Yeah, and he told me his name. Should I name him? Yeah, fucking nice. Yeah, uh of, name him now Charlie Compton, compton, something like that. Can't remember. Anyway, young guy, cool guy, nice guy, really nice guy.
Speaker 1:We were chatting away and then he was telling me about the AFL, because he was like. I told him, so I haven't been following it last few years as like I used to be really into it, but last few years I probably shied away a bit. I don't like something. Stop it, go leave and you and I've done that, yeah, and I thought you're just one of those people that you don't tolerate. Now, you haven't liked that, so you go. I'm going to stop watching it, and there's probably a lot of people in the boat, as you saying.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I remember when I was into it I've talked to someone. They're like, yeah, you stop all of it, and I think how'd you stop? Yeah, and now, like that's me, I understand, um, anyway, and I was telling about all that, and then he was telling me what the afl is looking at doing. There's been talks around because we're talking about salary caps and how it's very regulated, and he's talking about how the afl is looking at having the teams privately owned. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1:So I was like, but what you'll? What I think will happen there, which is so cool, but the rich teams will just keep getting richer. Yeah, well, it'd be interesting to see, like, do they keep a salary cap on player salaries to to keep the competition competitive? Yeah, but then also, you look at the best leagues in the world the nba, the nfl, the epl none of them have any of that, and the richest teams do the best. Yeah, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But it's like, why can't we have that too? Like, if the business, if the business or the team is run as a business and it's successful, why can't they reap the rewards? Yep, do you know what I mean? If they can get people to buy into their dream, they can get more people to buy in and they can turn over more money and buy better players and therefore have a better team and perform well, why can't they? We're too regulated dude. Yeah, but that's all of Australia, like that's, everything we do is really less man. We're so regulated man. Yeah, you know what I mean. They probably won't remove the salary cap, no, but yeah, they probably won't do that, but they would. Probably. They could look at doing the privatization. That's great, that's kind of cool. There won't be.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't expect John Smith down the road to buy it. When do you think breaking teams is going to be worth 20 mil? Yeah, 20 mil, 50 mil, I don't know, but we should start Ganesha together. Wouldn't it be sick? Imagine it's in there like, yeah, I'm there. What are someone? Someone does, someone will one day. Yeah, I own the whole league. Yeah, you're in a team. That's cute. Sit down for a crush. What's the um, what's that bloke's name? The bald one, then? What that's it? Oh really, I wasn't. I wasn't, um, dodo, dodo, you know, sold dodo, larry, larry, um, castleman, castleman, dude, he bought the nba, nbl, whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1:So you want to talk full circle just before you go into your story. What did I start this talk about? Christmas, yeah, and who was I talking about? Who are you talking about with what? Oh, oh, with your mate. Yeah, what's his name? I don't know. Larry, kyle, kyle. So Kyle's dad manages boats. Yeah, larry Kesselman sold Dodo. Yeah, bought a super yacht from America. Yeah, guess who had to go pick it up? Your mate, kyle's dad? No good's that. Kyle quit to small world. Dude, there you go, go circle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he bought the NBL. Did we say NBL, yeah, a few years back, and it was on its knees Like it was. People went. Did he buy the NBL or did he buy Melbourne United? No, he bought the whole thing. Yeah, yes, he bought the whole thing, and, and he didn't pay much for it. Didn't pay much for it? I don't believe. Google it again. The whole league, yep, yep. Where are we? Yeah, he's a. What did he sell Dodo for 120 million? How do you spell it? How do you spell his surname? Kesselman? Yeah, k oh K. Kesselman. There he is, there you go, easy work. But yeah, I'm pretty sure he sold Zodo in 2013 or something thereabouts. Yeah, for about $120 million. Seven mil offer to take over the league, the whole league, to take over the whole league All right, so let's see what it's worth today.
Speaker 1:The NBL this is yeah. By the way, if you haven't been to an NBL game, they're pretty cool, man, I went last year or the year before. They're trying to be like the US a lot. Oh, very much so, very much so. I was sitting in a stadium somewhere I can't remember which one it was, but, man, every single time out, every halftime show, whatever it was, there was cheerleaders, there was people singing and there's a guy on the oh, it's cool, it was very cool, it was very entertaining. But that's probably what he's gone off as well. I'm just trying to see here.
Speaker 1:30 mil, no, what it's worth now. Yeah, is that what you're looking on? Yeah, I think it'll be worth more than that. It's come a long way as well. Yeah, but considering you purchased it for $7, the NBL has a market cap or net worth of $920 million as of November 29, 2024. Interesting I don't know what Is that a public market cap? Is it a public thing? Can you invest in it? Can you buy shares? I don't know. Regardless, anyway, it's worth a shitload more than what he bought it for. Yeah, good on him, absolutely good on him. He's a smart man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he's gone in and revamped that whole league, made it entertaining. There wasn't an empty seat in the house when I went. This was a couple of years ago. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And I think it's even more popular now. My son plays basketball and I go to his basketball games and there is kids upon kids upon kids. Everyone's playing it Really, really popular sport, and I think he's captured that essence. Yeah, it is. It's very entertaining.
Speaker 1:Like, I don't follow the league whatsoever and I was entertained watching that game. Not at all, not at all. I'd like to Like. I think if I did, I would get into it a lot. Do you know what I mean? But yeah, I just don't have the time. Don't have the time to sit down and watch it. I'd love to go. We should go next year.
Speaker 1:Dude, stop fucking around. We can get this office. We can get this office There'll be a TV with the NBA playing in the middle of the day. Nba is playing now. Yeah, oh, is it? Yeah, yeah, so it's like middle of the day, nba on the spin. That's like it, yeah. So yeah, he came in private person, purchased the league, all the teams, everything in it, and I think he sold some teams to some piece or some parts of, or shares and whatnot.
Speaker 1:So again, getting investors coming in pumping their money into the league as well, and I've got no doubt that this thing will probably grow to be just as big, if not bigger than AFL, then Big call. But think about how big the NBA is. It's one of the bigger sport, or one of the bigger sports in the States, like basketball is a worldwide sport. Afl is confined within its own little world. Here, you reckon, because I think what will happen is the bigger league will say the bigger league, the bigger league, as in the NBA, will stay the NBA. Oh, yeah, soon, as, like a superstar starts up and coming, they'll want to go. Yeah, and that's what happens with the soccer here Anyone that's of half decent skill goes overseas. Yeah, never stay in the A league or the fucking-League. No offense to any A-League players or anyone who follows it. It's called an ace of spades and ace of spades, yeah Right, any A-League team will never beat a Premier League team.
Speaker 1:There's also a big difference between the NBL skill level and the NBA. Without a doubt, you're talking about guys that are getting tens of millions of dollars per game. What do you reckon the NBL deserves? Oh, it's tens of millions of dollars. The top players, top players, you reckon? Yeah, I remember someone Is that a podcast? Yeah, surely, look up a game. Or just per year, it's annual. This is an interesting because you hear a lot of people complaining about the UFC salaries and blah, blah, blah. And it's like NBA's out of this world. What they get paid is stupid. Alright, what do you reckon? Steve Curry is the highest pay. Steph Curry yeah, he's on like 53 million. Yeah, it's 85.8. Kevin Durant 51.2. Yeah, he's on like 53 million. Yeah, it's 85.8. Kevin Durant 51.2. Yeah, they make a lot of money.
Speaker 1:What about going to an NBL? That's US dollars, by the way, so that's like 75 Australian, 30 top players. Where's LeBron? Let's just see, out of curiosity, lebron going 48 mil. 48, there you go. Per game, per year. Dude, that's a moving box. A week, top 30. That's the 30th player. He's on 36.7.
Speaker 1:I was listening to someone the other day MBL, mbl. That's what I'm more interested in. Yeah, me too. From the Australian aspect, it can't be anywhere near that. I'd be surprised if there's anyone on eight figures. I reckon the top players might be on seven figures. Might be All right, here we go. I reckon most players would not be on seven figures. A 900 to a mil yeah, that's the top players. Yeah, like a Chris Goulding or something. Shadow Matthew yeah, like a Chris Goulding or something. Shout out, matthew.
Speaker 1:Matthew Knight, the Vala Dover he plays in the NBA. Dude, does he? Della Vadova, sorry, yeah, that's why NBA Plays for the Cavs. Bob Slaudain, from 21 to 22. Unless he went back, he's over the Cav. He used to play for the Cavs before COVID. Oh, is he 14? Yeah, anyway, you'd probably around that. I always played basketball. So, ben Simmons, he plays for the NBA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's showing you highest paid Australian. Just write average NBL salary, player salary or something along those lines. So, minimum salaries 74K Minimum. Yeah, it's a bit stiff, mate. How hard is this? Why can't it just be the number one?
Speaker 1:Search on Google. Come on Google, it's the L highest paid player. That's all I've searched. You still Google stuff. What else am I going to do? Me, I chat cheaply there. Probably give me the answer quicker.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, million bucks Thereabouts, thereabouts. But yes, you're right. So if the player is really that good, don't get swallowed up. They're gonna get swallowed up each and every time. So you, although, as I said, it was still a very entertaining game, it was still very skilled, yeah, but still plenty of dunks. There's still plenty of threes, like. I think that's why you're probably better off investing afl, an afl team, than you are an mvld. Yeah, because them no one's going to pinch them. Yeah, they can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1:And if the sport and I think it should goes global, this will be this will be the hub. This is where everyone should come to play. Yeah, it should be the most dominant league. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's leagues in New Zealand that play AFL. Yeah, that play AFL. Yeah, there's leagues in China that play AFL Apparently. Yeah, yeah, cool, imagine that it's very small, very small. Of course it would be. Yeah, it's probably two, three teams make up the league. But yeah, it's like ADFL If you look at Gaelic football as well. So they've got, they get plenty of people from Ireland come down and playing, converting to play AFL Max.
Speaker 1:What was it? Ruckman, the Ruckman for Collingwood, the big dude? Yeah, ben, no, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, I can't remember his name From the States. Yeah, american, he couldn't kick a football five years ago. Oh fella, yeah, it'll come to me in a sec. Nothing, I remember the name of the one. It'll come to me in a sec, but couldn't kick a football five years ago. Now he's playing AFL regularly each week. Yeah, good on him, absolutely yeah. So I actually make. That makes a lot of sense. What you're saying A lot of sense. Oh, come, not making it up, come from the man himself. But, yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd like to see the privatization of it. It'd be interesting. But I really do think. I really do think, like, those teams that are small will just get swallowed up. You might even see more mergers. And then do you have like a relegation, like do you have people going back to VFL so say, you have Western All Dogs? They don't In the NBA, no, in the EPL they do. But also I think there will be a cap right For this reason, because then it becomes a thing of like, okay, cool dude, you made all your money Like you've crushed the business world.
Speaker 1:Now you need a toy. And it's like Carlton struggling. And you're like, all right, cool, I'm going to go swallow this team now and I'm going to turn it around. Yeah, and that becomes your venture. Hang on, as in the next, the owner of the company or whatever it might be, they might come in and buy Carlton for $10 million. Yeah, it's all excited. They're struggling. Yeah, nba teams are toys for billionaires. Yeah, that's what they are. They're toys for billionaires. They're bored, they want something to do. They go buy an NBA team and they put everything into that.
Speaker 1:And you got to hire a coach. And you get that. You know what I mean. You're trying to put the best things together and you're like you hire a DM and you're like, hey, man, I need you to run this like a business and it makes money and people come on board and it turns over revenue. And you got fans. You got you know what I mean like a fan base that you need to keep happy and a team that you need to keep happy and players that you need to keep happy and coaches that you need to keep. You know what I mean sick, 100, 100 I.
Speaker 1:I remember many years ago, I think it was like 2009, somewhere there. I think I've actually mentioned this before in a previous podcast, but Jeff Kennett was president of Hawthorne Football Club and he released a statement out there about where he wanted the club to be in the next five years, and it's like three premierships, 80,000 members. Like they had a strategic plan in place, new facilities and to be a destination club, so all players wanted to come to the football club to play here, and that was the first time I've ever seen any club on that plane actually refer to it and think of their club as a business, and I think that was vastly contributing to their huge success in the years to come as well, because they did become that destination club. They did become somewhere where other top quality players wanted to play, and then they also had realistic targets. Like people were laughing at him saying what three premierships in the next five years? What the fuck's wrong with you? And they nearly won four and that's cool though. Yeah, dude, it's, it's, but I haven't seen, I haven't seen another club do that. Maybe following, yeah, following post not before Pre-beat. No, no, I'm saying following. No, I'm not saying the premierships, I'm saying how they had a structured plan as a business to achieve these goals.
Speaker 1:All the other ones were like, oh, they didn't have a plan. They're just like let's get the best players, let's do this, let's do this. Okay, let's do this, let's do this. Okay, let's go try, win a premiership. I don't think the, I think the afl will still have a cap in place because they've worked so hard for equalization over the last 10 years. And like, think about it. You talk about melbourne, which was a basket case for the last 50 years, won a premiership do you know what I mean? And became a strong team yeah, but you're talking about all these other clubs that have been at the bottom of the ladder Richmond Richmond were the ninth men for the last fucking 30 years and they finally came out and won a few premierships. And then you look at, look at them. Western Bulldogs were the same in 2015 16. So flip the script. You crush it. You're looking at buying an AFL team.
Speaker 1:But you know, imagine in business. They said to you A you can only hire this many people. You'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, you can only make this much money. Yeah, you can only make this much. We're putting a cap on it and you're like, well, this sucks. Yeah, it's going to deter people away from taking it to that private level, unless they one day do that and open it up. Yeah, great, yeah, I think Australia needs to open up as a country. Yeah, on many levels. Yeah, just let go a little bit. Do you know what I mean? Can you imagine an AFL player talking like a UFC fighter? That'd be cool, like some of the shit that UFC fighters say. They say whatever they want. Yeah, well, yeah, afl players cannot do that If they come out and call someone a particular name, or there's not that many kids watching UFC?
Speaker 1:Do you reckon? You don't reckon? No, not to the level. No, I don't, I don't. And if they are, they're watching it because their parents are watching it, and then they sort of get sucked into it, but not from the level that would follow a sports team, as in, not at the same I reckon it's more yeah, I reckon-. And also, a lot of parents would shelter their kids from that sort of a violent sport. Do you know what I mean? You say sick? Yeah, I love it. I love it Attaining. So do you think that's a bad thing for kids? Oh no, I've got no issue.
Speaker 1:I see it as martial arts. It is martial. Yeah, it's like it's mixed martial arts. That's exactly right. I said, yeah, like my son does jujitsu and I'm like I'd happily yeah, he's just started this year, but I would happily watch a ufc fight with him and go, I just see that. You see that I'll say he's gonna put him in an armbar, like, see, he can learn all these things anyway, like, and my wife's been doing it for many years as well um, but that's mixed martial arts, that is. But I still believe that that sport particularly is targeted more to a older demographic ufc.
Speaker 1:So for them, if you've got a uh, a football player and this comes out as they're interviewing him post-conference yeah, that was shit, we fucked them up. I got no doubt that next time we play them, we're absolutely gonna crush them. Player and this comes out as they're interviewing him post-conference yeah, that was shit, we fucked them up. I got no doubt that next time we play him, we're absolutely going to crush him. You know a guy, the fucking Nathan Fyfe I'm going to headbutt that bloke. Next time I see him. He better not get in my fucking face. Do you know what I mean? It's not going to float as well. If you had that much of a free reign yes, free reign, yes it would be entertaining Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I think the last person that was somewhat controversial that I can remember anyway, in recent times was like Jason Acomanas. He used to do stuff like that. He used to come out and say, yeah, next week I'm going to kick, I'm going to pick up 30 possessions and kick four goals and people were like, oh you, arrogant piece of shit. But then he'd come out and do it as well. He was was good player, yeah, you know, even yeah, I don't know, I think it just it's probably. There's probably a cap on it. I would love to see a little bit more of it. You know, he was a little bit like that this year, that from Hawthorne, jack Ginnivan, he was a little bit like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he'd come out. He said they're going to lose the next game out. Who were we playing? Port, yes, port. And then Collingwood had gotten through or something. Someone got through to the prelim, yeah, and then I see he said see you in two weeks, yeah, and then everyone unleashed on him who cares, dude, I reckon it was one of the him, I would not have retracted that Hold on.
Speaker 1:And then the next thing so then he goes one further, the coach, they didn't beat you, right, yeah? And then the coach said, whatever he said, it looks like you're staying home next week or something. And then they're like, wow, that's not on, that's not on, that's not on. He just gave it back Like who cares? It's a bit of friendly banter, it's not even if it was unfriendly, like at the end of the day. I look at it like this he's just gone out there and he's going to see you next week. Yeah, what Do you want me to say? Maybe I will see you next week. So what? You don't have that belief in yourself that you can be poor. And I remember the commentators were like hammering the coach A hundred percent. And I'm like On that day, yeah, who cares? And they're like that's not on, yeah, that's not on. And I'm like, dude, like that's nothing. I mean, as soon as it's going to become a non-contact thought, I'm serious. Yeah, he's going to give it out and he's going to also be willing to receive it. Okay.
Speaker 1:Funny thing the other day is I put a post up on TikTok and I've mentioned it to you before the podcast. It's funny, you put them up on different platforms and they get different reactions. So, like, I put the same post up on LinkedIn and a lot of people were in support of what I was saying. So, yeah, well said, that's great, george, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. And just for context, it was a video about red flags that I look for with subcontractors and I went through whatever it was for, or with subcontractors, and I went through whatever it was for for things that if this comes up, I tend not to work with a subcontractor that has those things that come up. And on TikTok, man the hater was getting, there's 180 comments, 180 comments and still counting, still going up, and people are giving it to me or trying to. Anyway, it shows you where. It shows you all the trainees are spending their time, but it also yeah, exactly, that's right. A, we're all LinkedIn versus TikTok, yeah, but B, it also shows that whole mindset behind them.
Speaker 1:Like, what I said was nothing negative. What did you say, sharon? Okay, first thing was with a subcontractor that was a red flag was, if they're not willing to sign a contract, a subcontractor, why wouldn't you? They don't understand. They see it. This is people's interpretation of me saying you must sign a contract. Oh, you're trying to fucking screw me over. I would get nervous to sign a $100,000 job on a handshake. I would be nervous to sign a $100,000 job and signing my clients no, sorry, and signing my subcontractor's quote as a builder. I would be nervous about that. Hang on, you finish your job, you go home, you sleep at night. I still have to build this house for the next nine months. Yeah, I need security that you're going to do the right thing in accordance with the standards, and so on and so forth. So that was the first thing.
Speaker 1:The second one was payment terms. That's what triggered most people. I say, no, you got to be 14 days, 30 days, end of the month oh, you can't pay trade. You're using them to cashflow your business. Guys, if you can't sustain some cashflow in your organization, that shows to me you're a high risk person to do business with. I need to know you can sustain a level of cashflow in the business, because we have a process to make sure money comes in before it goes out, and so on and so forth. Another one was safety, which no one commented on at all, because why would someone say, saying if they didn't comply with all the OH&S obligations? And the final one was communication just being clear, open communication, answering calls, getting back to us when we need, because a lot of the stuff is quite critical. So they ignored the two. That not an issue. But the two they hung their hat on was contracts and payment terms and I get it, because a lot of them, probably.
Speaker 1:And then you get all the people coming through and accusing me of other things that are irrelevant. Like, oh, I bet you shopped for the cheapest quote. That's irrelevant, it's not even part of the conversation and you're making an assumption of zero fact just because I've said something. That triggers you a little bit. But, as I was saying before, I get it. I reckon most of them have just gone through a bad scenario where someone didn't pay them or someone did rip them off and now they're painting every single builder with that one brush.
Speaker 1:And it's interesting how you look at different platforms giving you different responses. As I said, linkedin was quite positive because it's generally business owners that are on LinkedIn and replying to that, a lot of professionals yeah, a lot of professionals Didn't get anything really on Instagram or Facebook. It was very much similar to LinkedIn, but yeah, it's funny how that works. But I've had other posts in the past where I got lots of flack on Instagram but not much on TikTok. So, yeah, it's funny how you see those opinions come in right.
Speaker 1:And what you really need to realize which I did quite some time ago it's the opinions of people that you're never going to change. You know, I'm not going to sit here and get upset because someone thought something. It's like. You said it the other day. Your face made a sound and you got upset. Yeah, it's so true, it's so good. And I did a training a few weeks back and again it was part of some NLP training and I was saying your mind is a meaning making machine. Everything you look at and everything you interpret, you are putting meaning to it.
Speaker 1:I put up another post. You would have seen this one. I think you actually commented on it because you laughed. I was holding up a newspaper and on the newspaper, in big bold writing it was a Herald Sun it said it's okay to hit your wife. This paper, this photo, was taken 16 years ago, something a long time ago, before I was even married, still young, working at Multiplex, and yeah, we were just mucking around and my mate I was holding the paper up and he took a photo of me and I was pointing at the camera and at the very bottom of that newspaper it said flights to Adelaide $30. So in my comments I was like can you believe 16 years ago you could get a trip to Adelaide for only $30? Ago you could get a trip to Adelaide for only $30. All right, and everyone in the comments is like you're disgusting, like I had one lady just go off of me. She's like you're disgusting. You're an industry leader. You shouldn't be saying things like that. You shouldn't be in support of that. Hang on, I am highlighting $30 flights to Adelaide.
Speaker 1:You have read my post, looked at my post, interpreted my post as me being in support of violence against women or my wife. That is your mind making meaning of what you're saying, even though I put that there. Was I insinuating that? Yes, okay, obviously as a joke, of course, as a joke, I've insinuated that, but someone's put meaning behind that. Maybe they experienced violence in their relationship and they would have seen that and just gone really upset. I get it, I understand, but the same way, a comedian doesn't get up and apologize for a joke, like if Jimmy Carr every time he'd stand up in front of a crowd he'd be going to jail. With every joke he's in he said he's so funny, he's one of the funniest people, but he will say the most vile thing. Everyone laughs, do people get offended All the time? Most comedians are like that, but that's a thing. They're allowed to tell a joke and yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1:I thought I'd get a lot more flack for that than what I'm telling people just about some payment terms in a subcontractor. Again, people put meaning towards things that they want to because of the experiences generally that they've had in their past and that's why I'm probably getting so much negative flack back on that platform, because they're all on there, they've all been burnt and they're like oh, you're a red flag, okay, mate, whatever, good luck to you. Well, you just make sure you don't hire those people. But that's what I said too. I went through responding to a lot of comments. I probably responded to about 50% and then it just got too much. It got me fucked. But I said that. I said guys like I would never work for you and I go. The beauty is you don't have to. I'm not holding a gun to your head to sign contracts. I'm not holding a gun to your head to work for me. From people who say like I'll never wear it for you, I said like no, come on please. Like, come on, come on for you, give it a try. Give it a try, love it. Yeah, you can't change some people's minds Again. They've put meaning, they've had a feeling, they've had an experience that has led them in that direction and that path.
Speaker 1:So I try and often look at things subjectively. You know, if something's upsetting me or something pisses me off, I say, oh why? Why am I upset about that? Like sort of take a second to think about it and more often than not it's probably something to do with myself rather than what I'm actually reading or interpreting. Yeah, I think that's a great skill. I do that too. Like take yourself out of the picture. It's hard to do like initially, because we look at things and get pissed off immediately. And even in a relationship, yeah, like it's. I can't remember if I said this in a book or a week, sorry, in a previous podcast.
Speaker 1:I read it in a book and it's like men can't tell the difference between a physical spear being thrown at them and a verbal spear being thrown at them. Men can't, yeah, they or they find it difficult. It's like, as soon as you have a spear, if I'm going to throw a physical spear at you, you're in danger, you're going to get attacked. But you're ready to attack, to retaliate, to defend? Hey, don't fucking throw spears at me, don't try and kill me. And it's the same thing again with um, with your words.
Speaker 1:When people, when a man or a woman and a man are attacking each other or his attack, the man gets defensive. It it's generally the first thing to do, not all the time, but often, more often than not, they're the ones that are going to get defensive first and go fuck you, I'm not a coward, I'm not a bad dad, I'm not. You know all these things that will come up. I don't know what's going on with that, but I think often it's a skill to step back and go okay, cool, I'm just getting. I don't know where I was going with that, so it's a skill to step back and go okay, cool, I'm not in danger, I don't need to attack right away, I can just assess, take a deep breath, be calm about it, have a stoic approach to it and, more often than not, that's when you can make a really informed decision or react in the right way. Make a really informed decision or react in the right way I think that's a really hard skill.
Speaker 1:It's a very hard skill and I'm still working on it myself. Yeah, and it's like the way I do it is. I call the situation for it is take yourself out of it. It's like what's happening here Okay, there's two people talking, got it and just take yourself out of it. Okay, there's just two people talking. Why is one of them rolled up? You know what I mean. But yeah, and sometimes emotion gets in the way, and whether it's your family or your team, I'll tell you, I think that's definitely a very beneficial skill to have.
Speaker 1:You know what else is a really beneficial skill to have? Fuck, look. I mean this whole podcast is about growth, development, wealth, like what could be a skill that would help people. I can't even fucking play. You already know where I'm. I knew where you were going before I even started, before you even started. But what is it? Tell them, they need to know now.
Speaker 1:Some people still haven't picked up what you put in there. We get way more, way more listens than we have people subscribed. That's the truth, and we put a lot into the show. Yeah, absolutely, it's a commitment. It's been consistent. We've never missed a week and we don't want to miss a week. And you know what? We're not going to fucking miss a week. Why not? For the next three weeks. That's my promise. But for those of you who aren't subscribed, what are you doing? Takes two seconds. Yeah, click the button Top right-hand corner, red square rectangle. Now, seriously, though, if you do like the show, if you've ever gotten anything out of what we share with you, share this with someone you like and someone you don't like. Okay, make them a better person. You know they'll get something out of this. You'll get something out of this. And click that subscribe button helps theps us, Spread the message, helps us. We do nothing to advertise this. Everything is organic, so it helps us reach more people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we often say to each other how much we love when we get messages or comments or anything. Oh, man, I love that, love this. When you spoke about that, and we often have to go hang on. What did I say? When did I say that? Oh, back in episode 53. You're like oh, oh, yeah, yeah, I remember now. I remember now. So, but we love that, we love hearing those things and something I actually you know what we can finish off with Stephen Bartlett Diary of a CEO.
Speaker 1:You sent me a post the other day which I loved, and he was pretty much saying he did the post, saying we've hit 3 billion streams, downloads or whatever it is, of his podcast 3 billion With a B, yeah, with a B. And he's sitting there and he put the photo up. But the description below it was what was the impactful and meaningful thing behind that whole post. And he goes guys, we've accumulated 95% of our followers in the last year and a half two years, whatever it was, and they've been going for like seven years. This podcast has been going for seven years. He goes for the first two years, all right. The first two years they had like a hundred downloads an episode, like fuck all, and now he's had 3 billion streams or downloads of his episode.
Speaker 1:They did it consistently for three years without the reward, three whole years, day in, day out. Arguably, the content was probably just as good, if not better, back then than what it is now. Three whole years, more often than not, I think a lot of people give up on their ambitions or dreams because it takes longer than they want it to, it takes more effort than they are willing to put in, but when you're playing the long game and have the end in mind, it makes the life and makes the journey a lot more enjoyable. He has a great thing that he says. He says I hope no one's listening, but if you are, I think he says don't share with anyone, or something like that Something cool, like something that you're like, oh, yeah, that's a cool. And they asked him why you say that. And he goes because at the start no one was listening. No one was listening. Um, yeah, cool, dude, cool podcast and a very cool post. And so is this podcast. And if you want to be cool, join the family, yeah, and all the sports thing, there's merch. Now, shit, there's merch.
Speaker 1:I didn't bring it today. I was going to. I thought you would have had it, so I was like I actually had it on my desk at home. I wore it to a barbecue yesterday. I've been wearing it all week, dude.
Speaker 1:Everyone's like hey, where's my hat? Where's my hat? And I'm like, if you're able to buy them soon, relax, relax, yeah, we're giving you a preview. Where's my hat man? Yeah, so we got some six hats. And when I say we, robbie organized everything. I went to his house the other day. He said give me a hat. He goes, you can buy it on Amazon. You can't. Yeah, don't come to my house, I prefer hat.
Speaker 1:I've got a worse subscriber and you hit us up. Should we do a giveaway? We're going to do it. I'm doing it right now. I can't stop with you the first person to send me or Robbie a comment or DM or anything on social media.
Speaker 1:When you hear this episode, it means you've gotten to the very end of this episode. So congrats, the first person to send us a DM. We're going to send you a million dollar day's hat, million dollar, and we'll pay for postage. All right, million dollar day, and they're valued at 50 bucks. You better fucking be subscribed. You have to be subscribed as well. Don't just send me a comment. We will check, okay, so two things, good, good, I'm glad you mentioned that A. You got to send 300 other people to subscribe to. Yeah, no, that's that last one. But if you are subscribed and you comment or send us a dm, we'll send you a hat and share it with your mother.
Speaker 1:Boom. Thank you very much, guys. Loved having you a part of the episode today, merry christmas, because I know you're all gathered around the family table listening to this joyful moment being episode. The family table listening to this joyful moment being episode 61 of Million Dollar Days, and I hope you have had a million dollar day or at least got a million dollars worth of presents. Thanks everyone, we'll see you in 2025. Shit, yes, we will Peace out. Bye, everybody.
