Million Dollar Days

Starting 2025 Strong

• Robby Choucair and George Passas • Season 1 • Episode 65

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2025 is off to a chaotic start for many, but is it really chaos, or just the way we perceive it? In this episode, Robby and George unpack the power of perspective and how shifting your mindset can transform challenges into opportunities. From personal stories about office moves and life changes to reflections on reframing adversity, they share how even the toughest situations can lead to growth.

Join us as we reflect on the impact of Gary Vaynerchuk's philosophy on content creation and the tension between ambition and time. We share our evolving views on seizing the moment to chase meaningful goals, while reminiscing about our podcast's journey from humble beginnings to a more established platform. Whether it’s the warmth of holiday traditions or the joy of community on family vacations, we underscore the value of connection and the familiar comfort that these experiences bring.

If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure about how to approach 2025, this episode will inspire you to take control of your narrative. Tune in to hear practical advice, motivational insights, and powerful reminders about the importance of embracing change and keeping momentum alive.

George:

How good is it.

Robby:

Life, this studio Did you just call it a studio.

George:

It's just the studio, this studio. We are in the very first Million Dollar Days studio For those of you watching at home. It's still a work in progress, but it is its own dedicated studio podcast room.

Robby:

But you know what it is. It's a work in progress because we can't drop the ball. George own dedicated studio podcast room. But you know what it is. What's that? It's a work in progress because we can't drop the ball.

Speaker 3:

George, this is episode 65 in a row.

Robby:

Every single week we haven't missed yet, because one day it might happen. I don't know it might, but currently we're on a streak. I'm going to be very sad if we ever miss an episode, and you're going to be sad too, oh, as in the listeners.

George:

The listeners yeah, they're going to cry.

Robby:

Anyway, 2025, well underway, lots happening. Australian Open how are you?

George:

I'm really good. It's been a hectic start to the year, much busier than I thought it would be, in the sense of there was just so much going on. Literally day one it was like bang hit the ground running. Thousand emails, thousand things happening, people sick like all those challenges. I've got three people away sick today whilst we're filming this podcast. What are you guys doing um holiday mode still?

Robby:

I've had a couple people say to me 2025 has started off chaotic, like a few people have come back, like I've just, you know, but back into things, getting in touch with everyone, and a few people are like, man, this is not. It's been a bad start to the year. This has happened. That's happened.

Robby:

I spoke to a client had a motorbike accident, broke several bones. I spoke to another client. He's like he's someone he knows had an accident in Bali, broke several bones overseas. Yeah, that'd be bad overseas and in Bali. I also know someone who went through a glass wall overseas late last year, like in Bali as well.

George:

Yeah, how funny you mention that now. My old man just got out of hospital and my mother-in-law is still in hospital.

Robby:

Dude, everyone seems to be getting hurt and people are like 2025's not off to a great start and I'm like what are you talking?

Speaker 3:

about.

Robby:

This is sick.

George:

People are dying and I'm all right.

Robby:

I've had a great start in the sense of a lot's been happening. Yeah, like a lot. I now live and work in a different place. Yeah, my whole life has completely switched a different place. Yeah, my whole life has completely switched around 180. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm sleeping in a different place. I come to work in a different place Doing the same things, but it's just like my commute. I first drive to work today how good, yeah. And I was like, yeah, this is not a bad drive, not much traffic. You know what?

George:

I mean, yeah, was that all?

Robby:

right. Yeah, I was here in like 15 minutes.

George:

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how much it's when you go home as well. Yeah.

Robby:

Depending on what time I leave, I think.

George:

I think if you leave at sort of 5.30, because you listen to the podcast you've subscribed, haven't you?

Robby:

Me? Yeah, I was the first subscriber, were you really? Yeah, there you go.

George:

There you go, the very first number one, the first, and I won't be the last, but other people could do that as well when they're driving home.

Robby:

Yeah, they could subscribe.

George:

Our subscribers are building.

Robby:

People must be listening, not surprised. You know what I mean. They're listening and they're taking action.

George:

I hear what you're saying with all that that there's shit going on, but everything is how you make it. Do you know what I mean? Like I said, both my mother-in-law and my old man both in hospital for quite serious things actually. They got really sick. They both got infections which then spread to other areas and it's like you know it could have gone the other way completely. But even like with the, I've got three people away sick today.

George:

I've had a hectic start to the year. I haven't lost enthusiasm. I haven't been like this year's fucked. Let me go back on holidays. What a joke. You's what you make it. When the situation comes up, and even the broken bones, with these people overseas falling off a bike, whatever it might be again, everything you make it. Yes, it's bad, but hey, maybe you meet the love of your life at the hospital. That's a positive spin. But do you know what I mean? But you will miss 100% of the opportunities that you're not looking for If you're there feeling sorry for yourself and going this is the worst, this is the worst. That's what's going to happen the worst Perception is reality.

George:

Yeah, exactly right.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean? There's a really good. I saw a clip and I know we quote him all the time, Hall-Mosey, but I saw a clip and this is an extreme view and he's an extremist let's be super clear he's an extreme business person.

George:

Yeah, without a doubt.

Robby:

He has zero emotion, 100% logic. That's his way of thinking and I respect it. And he says this thing and he's like 2024, 2025, right thing. And he's like 2024, 2025, right. He's like the current modern society. 15 year old girl sleeps with 40 year old man.

Robby:

She's traumatized. He goes 100 years ago, 15 year old girl gets married off to 40 year old man and sleeps with him. She's got a happy life and she has kids and he goes. Exactly the same behavior he goes. Society has changed what it means and therefore that person is traumatized by it, don't get me wrong. But they're traumatized by it. He goes. The actions are the exact same thing. He goes. We're traumatized because we've now labeled that a bad thing. He goes the action alone, if you take all emotion out of it. One person had a nice life and got to have kids at a young age and was a young mom, and the other person was a victim.

George:

Yeah, and it was acceptable back then, like even from the perception of that whole relationship, people wouldn't have frowned upon it.

Robby:

Just to be clear, not saying the person who has that happen to them today is not a victim. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just giving you an example of the difference between this and that Right.

George:

And I've said that too. I listened to that podcast.

Robby:

Yeah, and he's like it's just, it's your perception on things, right? Two people can have the exact same things happen, like someone can say man, you know, gave me the perfect wake-up call and it changed my life. And now the person can say, oh, this year's off to the worst start ever, and I'm, you know this and that, and it's just been bad and chaotic and bad things are happening.

George:

Yeah, I was listening to another podcast I can't remember which one it was the other day, but they were saying how the guy's mum was in hospital and the doctor was about to go in and give her news that she was terminally ill, like you're gone in three months. And then the son was outside of the room and says you do not go in there and tell her that If you tell her that she will die in a fucking week. Who was that? I can't remember. I'll figure it out.

Robby:

I know a story like that too.

George:

Yeah, and he's like, do not go there and say that, like he was arguing, he was punching on with the doctors. Now we have to tell her. We got a duty, so you fucking tell her, I'll knock you out. Do not go in there and tell her that she will die when she dies in her own way. Right, do not go in there. She'll be gone in a week instead of in three months or six months or however much time we have with her. She'll just be sitting there worrying about every single second and every single day that she has, and she'll be gone in no time.

George:

She ended up living another 80 years or something not 80, but she ended up living till a ripe old age as a result of not being told that news, because her mind didn't kill her sooner. Oh dude, placebo is a real thing. I was saying that the other day with my well, my wife was saying it to me, actually with my mother-in-law. She's like, she's the type of person you've got to be positive around her. As soon as it's give her the bad news, she'll be doom and gloom, completely doom and gloom.

Robby:

Whereas my old man and women are more prone to this than men.

George:

Yeah, well, they're more emotional, aren't they? Whereas my old man was in hospital, he was quite serious, he got he ended up he had a stomach bug which in his heart, like if he left it and didn't go to the hospital he could have carked it. And I was talking to him literally the next day after I found out. So I found out at nighttime. He was in there and it was okay at that time. But the next day I spoke to him and he sounded like I speak to him every other day.

George:

He's like, yeah, I'm all right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I feel 10 times better he goes.

George:

It was bad, he. It was bad, he goes. I felt like shit because it was bad, but he goes. I feel 10 times better now that I've had some drip and this and medicine and all that sort of stuff.

Robby:

Shout out to Steve. He's our number one listener. We're going to get him on the.

George:

He's our number one listener. Number one listener Criticizes us for having three views on YouTube.

Robby:

Yeah, but it definitely doesn't hold back.

George:

We'll get him on the podcast one day and I. It's going to be a great chat and that's going to be cool too. Right, purely from the perspective, is how good is it going to be for myself, selfishly in. How old is he now? He's in his mid-60s, 40, 50 years' time. Whenever he's not around, I can go back and listen to that podcast episode and watch that.

George:

Or my kids can do that in 20, 30, 40 years, however long it's going to be before he kicks the bucket. But to go back and actually look at that and go, oh, that's what he thought, oh, it was so good to have that chat, that's going to be cool and that's what I love about what we're doing here is, this is that legacy it lives forever, as long as the internet doesn't shut down.

Robby:

Why would the internet shut down? What's going to happen is the internet is going to become overlaid on life.

George:

What do you mean by that?

Robby:

It's not going to shut down. So right now we have devices that connect us. What's going to happen is it's going to become part of reality. So like, instead of hey, go on the screen or the device that connects us to the internet the internet is going to be part of, it's going to be overlaid.

Speaker 3:

Like picture.

Robby:

I got the internet and I just you know what I mean Like the internet is now around us and it's like cool, we can see Google there.

George:

Yeah, yeah you know what I'm saying yeah, yeah, that's what's going to happen, yeah, yeah. So I'm saying, as long as we're still around the humanity, human race, oh, yeah, maybe not, yeah. And then even my children can watch this in the years to come when I'm not here, or my great-grandchildren, or my great-great-grandchildren. They can come on this podcast, listen to some sick shit and then implement that into their life and just make some huge changes and hey, I love you there you go. Gary Vaynerchuk's massive on that shit too.

George:

He was the first person that sort of opened my eyes to it.

Robby:

He says a lot of things, right. I don't agree with what he's preaching at the moment.

George:

I saw a video the other day of him. I like, yeah, I have been off his content for a while now, but he did put something up. I like how he keeps trying to. He tests the market a lot with his content.

George:

Yeah, he does, which I really like because I was watching, but then he goes on there and says it and he goes what we've noticed on Instagram is you do a photo and then you swipe right and it's a video, and he goes that's popping at the moment. People want to watch that sort of content. And he goes we'll just keep trying and trying.

Robby:

It also pops up on people's feeds twice. Oh, just keep trying and trying. It also pops up on people's feeds twice. Oh, does it? Yeah, so if I do that, you will see that post twice. So you'll see the first version, and then Instagram will then show you the second slide of the same post. Of the same post, yeah, a second time once you refresh your feed.

George:

How interesting. There you go. I never knew that.

Robby:

Yeah, so you get two chances.

George:

Oh well, it's crazy not to do that every single time, then aren't you at the moment?

Speaker 3:

But that's what I like about him.

George:

He's a practitioner. Like he still practices what he preaches, his stories doesn't change, which is probably why some people get off him a little bit in that perspective.

Robby:

I'm off him because he keeps saying you're 60, you've got time. And it's like no, you don't. No, you don't. Do you know what I mean? Dude, someone was saying to me the other day they're like hey, he's like you know the stuff you said you wanted. He listened to this podcast. He's like you know the stuff you said you wanted. Like growing up, he's like now's the time Like this is it Now?

Robby:

He's like there's no, I'll do that in the future. Like you're in your 30s, like this is you know what I mean? You want that fucking thing, go get it. Like, don't say that now I'm gonna save, and I'm not saying go blow your money, but then like try and save 70 bucks because it's like you want the thing, get it now. Like get the better one now. Like get the thing.

George:

You know what I mean I saw even someone told me it's like wear nice clothes. If you've got nice clothes, wear them.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah. What are you saving them for Exactly?

George:

Just for that wedding or that time you go out with a friend or a date, like wear them tomorrow and then, when that clothing wrecks, go buy another one.

Robby:

Can you believe this podcast started in 2023? Nah, can you believe that shit?

George:

It's amazing how quick it's gone. Amazing how quick it's gone. It's ridiculous. It's great to see the progress too, though from the perspective of literally we're sitting in a studio. This is a dedicated room. We're not packing this shit up anymore. There's going to be a nice neon sign behind us soon, hopefully today, and there's going to be some memorabilia around. We're going to have proper screens set up where we can literally just come in, press a button and start recording. That's it. We're going to make Iggy redundant.

Robby:

Sorry, iggy, all right. So 2025 off to a chaotic start for many people, many people.

George:

But how was your holidays? It was good. I mean, the first couple of weeks were moving office, so that was a hectic move. That was pretty busy, like I didn't feel that I had much of a break per se. So moving office, but exciting. New location, bigger location, nicer office so, yeah, really happy with that. And obviously you're in here now too, so we're all together and can do this whenever we want. We've got the team in here, we're growing the team, so that's exciting. And then went away to Noosa for a week. That was good. We always do that annually with the family and some friends and we all have a good time up there.

Robby:

That was my refreshing pee. Are you about that like in the sense of Talk me through your thought process here? Why do you go back to the same place?

George:

The kids enjoy it at the moment and we enjoy it too the same place.

Robby:

The kids enjoy it at the moment and we enjoy it too, like it's good it's, but wouldn't you rather just like go? See like, even in different places, even if it's like same area.

George:

I think at the moment people are with the age that our kids are at and then there's a group of us that go there. It's. I think it's might be a bit of ease yeah, and also it's like less chaotic, like we know the place okay, so you're going with a few different people.

George:

Yeah, there's probably about four families at the moment that go there. And then, because you keep going there, you see the same people there too and you end up becoming friends with them, like this year, funny enough, my son's moving school and one of the kids that's going to be in the same year level as him at that school was there. So they became friends. We got to talking with the parents. You know really good connections there. They seem like they were nice people, so it's good to have that connection. And then you, you know you build new friendships there too. So, yeah, good resort where we stayed. Kids have a ball. My kids are a little bit older now so there's a little bit less supervision so we can actually relax and enjoy our time there too. But yeah, we just keep having a good time there. So until it gets boring or we're sick of it, I think I'll probably move then yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, okay.

George:

I think when they get a little bit older, when they start becoming teenagers, it might get to that point where they're like, oh, can we go somewhere else which it totally would, which totally would. But we do other things throughout the year as well. So that's probably our one annual escape where we go to the same place every year but then throughout the year. I actually want to do other trips, like this year I want to try and go to Disneyland, if the chips all fall in the right way. If not, we'll go somewhere else. We'll do some sort of an overseas trip this year and then next year again try to do another one, sorry, which Disney?

George:

Oh then the States In the States.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, there's a few of them. Yeah, yeah, there's Tokyo. There's France, yeah, there's Japan. I think there's one in China. Oh, is there?

George:

I didn't know that there's something in China. Yeah, I don't know what's in China.

Robby:

There's lots of Chinese. I heard Okay, noosa, anything else interesting, moved office.

George:

Yeah, moved office. Look, I was working most of the time as well, but just bits and pieces on things that I wanted to do.

George:

No, I did in Noosa. I did in Noosa, and look, we're going away in a few months as well, so we've got that to look forward to. So I'm kind of not too fussed that I didn't get. And look, we're going away in a few months as well, so we've got that to look forward to. So I'm kind of not too fussed that I didn't get too much of a relaxing break, because when we go away, that'll be. I always see, whenever we go away to training events like that, it's kind of like a break in itself.

Robby:

Anyway, it's a change of scenery.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

George:

Yeah, so there's that as well. But, yeah, I enjoyed the holidays. I always do that period for us, the whole industry shuts down, so there's not that much I could be doing anyway. So it's a good time of the year for us to actually take a break and relax and do what we need to do. How about yourself?

Robby:

I went, so I obviously moved before the Christmas or over Christmas moved office and home.

George:

Oh, homes now.

Robby:

Well, just moved home, yeah um, but moved office over that Christmas period and then I went to Bali for two weeks and I went and did a retreat. I went and did a seven day, seven day fast retreat how was it? Like not eating yeah not fast like speed um. Seven day fast retreat how was it Like not eating? Yeah, not fast like speed Um. How was it? Um cause it was recommended.

George:

It was really yeah, came came recommended.

Robby:

It's called natural, something I can't remember. Anyway, um, seven days and what you do, it's a group of people. It's about 15 people. It's actually a really nice group of people, man. Everyone in the group is really nice. They said they'd listen to his podcast. If you're listening, shout out, shout out to the group from Bali. Yeah.

George:

So you're working even when you're not working. When I was, no, I was wearing my hat.

Robby:

Oh, were you. Yeah, oh sick. I wore that hat all holiday.

George:

By the way, I did not take that hat off every single day and they're like what's the hat?

Robby:

like what's million dollar days. I was like it's a podcast and they're like you have a podcast kind of a big deal yeah, and then they're like where can we get the hat?

Robby:

I was gonna send you a link. Um, so seven days it's a. They give you. Let me be, they give you. Let me be clear, they give you some food. I was.

Robby:

So I went in expecting like we might just have water here. Yeah, and I was told that there's some stuff that you're going to drink that's going to help you release toxins or whatever. Right, so you go in and they actually give you broth as well. I wasn't aware of that. So you go in seven days you're drinking as well. I wasn't aware of that. So you go in seven days you're drinking these.

Robby:

You're drinking benzinite clay and psyllium husk. Don't even know what they are. Yeah, benzinite clay is like a clay that forms throughout your digestive tracts. That allows the toxins to stick to it. And psyllium husk helps you. It's like a high in fiber thing that helps you push things out, otherwise you'll just get clogged up. So you're drinking that heaps out. Today they're giving you special herbs and you're just hanging out, and I actually disconnected from the world completely as well, in the sense of no phone Dude. My screen time was like four minutes a a day. Do you know what I mean. It was like checking your time. Like you know, I didn't even have my phone on me, mess, at the time.

George:

My phone was just in my room did you do that on purpose or was it a requirement?

Robby:

no, there wasn't a requirement. Those people who, like, had laptops out, blah blah I actually got recommended. They're like dude if you can disconnect from everything. So I, an email autoresponder, made sure everyone knew, made sure the team had everything they needed and I completely disconnected from the digital world. I didn't know what was going on in the world. I had no idea. And then I thought people lived like this at one point, like you didn't know what was happening.

George:

That just reminds me of something I remember when I went to Greece, like in 0't know what was happening. That just reminds me of something I remember when I went to greece, like in 06 this is before smartphones, before everything and I remember going there and it was a different world. I was away for a month or whatever it was, and then coming back to australia, there was like I remember the one thing is like all these new songs that I'd never heard before but people had known because what? This song came out like a month ago and you haven't heard it yet. So I've been in a different country.

Robby:

I didn't even know this song existed and it's like you lose connection with the other side. Actually, I found it really hard yeah.

George:

I could imagine it being difficult, not the food part.

Robby:

That was easy. Like the shakes fill you up, you're not hungry. They give you broth every night. You can have as much broth as you want, like as much guy had A bowls. Yeah, like you can have as much as you want. Um, it tastes okay. But I remember like four days in I was cursing the guy who sent me there. I was like what the hell did he send me? To what?

George:

am I doing?

Robby:

here? What the fuck am I doing here? What am I doing here? It was seven days. Did you say it was seven days? Yeah, and I remember just laying there. All I did I was reading.

George:

Yeah, I was going to say what were you doing in the seven days Aside from drinking broth?

Robby:

Yeah, so you get up in the morning and you would do yoga, which I've committed to doing.

George:

Shit yeah More so.

Robby:

Yeah, I've worked out that I'm not flexible in some ways. Is Pilates similar? I don't know? Yeah, but yeah, I've worked out I'm not flexible. In some ways I'm like, okay, maybe I need to. Yeah, anyway, you'll see. If you go to yoga, you might see me. But yeah, committed to taking up yoga, and so you do yoga every morning. Then you just kind of hang out they had little workshops in between you kind of just hang out, make sure you get your herbs in, make sure you're getting your shakes in, make sure you're drinking heaps of water. You hang out with the group. They did like steam sauna sessions so they take us down to like the steam thing. That happened twice.

Robby:

We did a water ceremony, like a Balinese traditional thing. We did a fire ceremony, so there was like there's things to do, stuff happening. Yeah, there was like four workshops over the seven days. What were the workshops about? Stress, uh, nutrition, some other shit.

Robby:

Yeah, Um you know the fast, how it all works, how to break the fast, et cetera, coming off the cleanse. Um, but yeah, I remember on day four laying there and I was reading. Like I said, whenever I'd have some time I'd just sit down and read or I would journal. But eventually I got to the point where I'm like, dude, I've read for like two hours, I don't want to read anymore, I'm over it, I don't want to write anything down. I remember just laying there and just staring into the distance and just being like you, bored, fucking bored, could you leave and just go for a walk and go to the shop.

Robby:

Yeah, I did that at one point, went for a walk and got caught out in the rain, came back drenched and I was just like, okay, but I just didn't know what else to do. Oh, and you get a massage every day yeah, just didn't know what else to do. Oh, and you get a massage every day yeah as well. So, yeah, I remember thinking at one point this is. I was like dude, you know, I'm sitting here, no connection to the world, no, no, and I was like this is like solitary confinement yeah you know, I mean like I'm fucking and your mind, your mind goes to places that it doesn't normally go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Robby:

Because you have time Do you know what I mean and you just start thinking about stuff that you haven't thought about in a long time, like stuff that you've just never really processed or you think you've processed, and then it comes back up or like having weird dreams Perhaps that's part of the point like to be bored.

George:

They say that with kids as well, that they should be bored every now and then, because that's when they start to think well, I'm bored, I'm so bored, what can I do? It starts to get them thinking about other things they can do other than just getting on the iPad or the PlayStation or whatever it is that they're going to do.

Speaker 3:

They getting on the iPad or the PlayStation or you know whatever it is that they're going to do.

Robby:

They say Einstein used to block two hours out a day for boredom. Do you know what I mean? I think it's it's when you start to think about stuff. I could not fucking wait for this thing to end. Towards the end I was like man, I cannot wait, Like I just Not enough going on, yeah. I was itching Like I couldn't wait to get back to work. I was like man, do you know what I mean?

George:

but yeah, it was so would you recommend me do it?

Robby:

you? Yeah, you shouldn't even talk about it you know me well enough.

George:

Yeah, I think. I think, after what you've described, I have no desire to go there. It wasn't bad. Yeah, not because it's bad. I just don't know if what you've described I have no desire to go there.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't bad.

George:

Yeah, not because it's bad. I just don't know if that would be the right thing for me. That's all personally. Out of curiosity, did anyone else after your seven days what was? Their experience Everyone had the most amazing. See, I find that I reckon, if I went, I would have a very similar experience to you.

Robby:

Very similar experience, because we discussed this a lot. I'm always very cautious.

George:

You know, bring it down. Yeah, yeah, it's a ruin of brothers. Yeah, yeah.

Robby:

I don't know what the word I was looking for, Like I don't want to trample other people's experiences. So I was just like, yeah, no, it's good and I didn't have a bad time, just to be completely honest and open about it. But yeah, that was the hardest thing for me was like it's like just stopping everything. Like just stopping everything I'm used to doing. Dude, at one point I checked my emails and I felt good Once I checked my emails once throughout the seven days and I felt good.

George:

I was like oh yeah, kogan. Email from.

Robby:

Kogan yes, you're like, I just hate those emails. It just felt nice, yeah, so the people that were there.

George:

What sort of background did they come from? Professionally Mix, yeah. Massive mix, yeah it was predominantly females.

Speaker 3:

Predominantly females.

Robby:

There were like three, four guys and the rest were girls. Okay, yeah, interesting. Really really nice group. Yeah, there was no, like no one was weird or yeah. It was like a cool group. Everyone got along, everyone was super easy to talk, to Met some nice people.

George:

Were there people there together, or was everyone there individually?

Robby:

There was a couple that were there together and there was two girls that were there together, and I think everyone else was there individually. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't know, it was different.

George:

Well, I think it's good still to try stuff anyway. Like that. You've done it, You've experienced it. You might do something similar again in the future, but something better. You know what I mean. You've done that. It doesn't mean it's not the right. Like that one wasn't the right one for you. But that's not to say there's not another retreat that you go to. That's six, seven days. That's like that, but different.

Robby:

Look, I think there's a couple of things you know because I write. So when you write, I was writing right, and you're writing and I'm like why am I struggling to end? Because I'd ask other people and they'd be like, yeah, this is so good. And I'd be like they mean that, like they genuinely believe they're enjoying this process and that's great. Why am I struggling? You know what I mean.

Robby:

And I'm like taking these things and I'm like is it because I'm finding it too basic? Is it because I'm seeing gaps where I'm like like, if I ran this retreat, I would do this and this and this. Is it that Like? You know what I mean. Am I getting in my own way, like, is it at the point where I can't enjoy someone else's experience unless it's at a certain level? Yeah, is it at the point where? Or do I just really struggle with no, no, with no food and nothing to do? Dude, I genuinely, at one point I was like this is like prison. I started doing push-ups. I was like what do you do if you're in Saratoga?

Speaker 3:

Push-ups. That's it, I do it, I read and I do push-ups.

Robby:

I was like fuck it. I'm going to do some push-ups, but then you get tired because you're not eating. Yeah, yeah, I keep doing this, but yeah, that was interesting. First time in Bali as well.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Robby:

What did you think? It's okay. Yeah, I think I've been to Thailand, bali and Fiji, I think, out of those three. Bali's third, you know what I mean? Yep, it was okay.

George:

Yeah, a lot of people. Three Bali's third, you know what I mean.

Robby:

Yep, it was okay. Yeah, a lot of people go harp on about it.

Speaker 3:

I've been once many years ago, before I was married.

George:

I know people that have my wife or fiance at that stage. Yeah, we went there just before we got married. It was okay, I wasn't in a rush to go back.

Speaker 3:

That was my exact words, I said I'm not rushing back.

George:

A lot of people go there religiously.

Robby:

Yeah, I don't think I go there several times a year.

George:

It's probably cheaper than going in Australia. You know what I mean?

Robby:

Yeah, travel-wise, Travel-wise yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, I don't know, I didn't, I just and when you ask people, I ask people cause I'm like what are you going back for? Like, what's the like? It's a change of scenery, yeah, but what else? I think Thailand is way better. I've never been to Thailand, dude. Thailand's sick. Even like scenery, in the sense of like beaches, and it's, it's a nicer, nicer places to visit. Do you know what I mean?

George:

That's how I felt, but maybe I went to the wrong parts. I went to, like Canggu and Seminyak and Ubud, okay. So, aside from it being recommended, what was the motivation for you to go out there now and spend money, spend time, take time out of your life and business to go over there and do a course like that or to do something like that? What was the motive? Why do you do things like that you personally?

Robby:

So why did I do that?

George:

Why do you do it? Yeah, why did you do not specifically that? But why do you go out and do things like that?

Robby:

Oh, because then I see it that if you don't do that and you just live off your own experiences, because what you're doing is you're buying other people's experiences, do you know what I mean? That person's lived a life, they've learned a bunch of shit and they're like, hey, I'm going to teach everyone and you go there and you learn some shit and hey, I reckon the shake thing that I learned from them.

Robby:

I reckon I'll probably do that, maybe once a year, because it does get rid of your toxins out of your body. Do you feel better, or did you feel better?

George:

when leaving there, physically, I felt good. After I ate, I felt good. What was your first meal?

Speaker 3:

Were you starving.

Robby:

Were you like give me no, no. So you've got to fire up your digestive system again, so you start off with just fruit.

Robby:

So you've got to fire up your digestive system again, so you start off with just fruit and I ate fruit for probably a day and a half Fruit and just veggies for like a day and a half before I started incorporating other things. And I incorporated things early, like I know there were people there who were like they wouldn't eat fish until day five, whereas I had fish on day two. Do you know what I mean? But I also know my gut and my and the way you know what I mean.

George:

Yeah, um, so the reason I asked you about you know why you do that. Because you continue to do that too. It's not like, oh, I've done that, I'm not doing anything else this year. It's you said you're buying other people's experiences and then you can interpret that in however you want to implement that in your life or not. Yeah, you know, because, again, you look at the highly successful people on this planet they've all done stuff like this. All of them.

George:

They get to a point in their life where they're like, okay, I have enough money, I have enough time, I have enough resources to go and connect with this person or do that course or have that experience, and then they better their life as a result of that. And this is coming back a little bit to what you're saying. With this particular experience that you went in Bali, I think you've done a lot previously to that training. You've done so much that you've accumulated a wealth of knowledge and experience that, as you said, when you get there, you're probably at a different level comparatively to everyone else that's there. That's probably their very first thing they've ever done for themselves, their very first personal development or training or retreat or anything. So when they go into that and go just spend an hour meditating, it's life-changing.

George:

Whereas you've gone hang on, I did this when I was doing my NLP training. I've done this when I've done, you know, that retreat on goal setting, or whatever it might be yeah, there's just dude, like even I felt like the information taught.

Robby:

I was like that's super basic, basic, like so basic. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Um, but there were people that were like, oh yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly oh what carbs and proteins?

Robby:

And I was like, are you flaky ass for?

Speaker 3:

real.

Robby:

Like carbs, proteins, fats. I learned that when I was like 16.

George:

Do you know what I mean. Well, it'll be interesting as well for when we go to see Alex Hormozy in a couple of months Actually, no, next month. I can say Not next month A couple of months, a couple of months. So, for those of you that don't know, we're going to go to the States, to Las Vegas.

George:

We're going to see Alex Ormosi, if all aligns, we'll probably see Grant Cardone as well at the 10X Growth Conference. So we're going there purposely to go and learn from people that have done some pretty amazing things. Specifically, the one with alex or mosey is more in depth, more of a classroom style scenario, where you're actually sitting there, workshop yeah, you're workshopping what they're going to be teaching you, so that'll be really interesting to do. But then to say, to see, am I actually going to write stuff down or go, that's sick. I always write stuff down. I always do too. Yeah, but I'm saying from the perspective of, if I write something down, is it going to be like, wow, that's some good shit. That's something I didn't know when I walked into here.

Speaker 3:

I reckon that workshop will be.

George:

Yeah, and that's why we spent the money to go there. Like it wasn't a small investment, I would be very disappointed if it wasn't.

Speaker 3:

I think it will be.

Robby:

I think it will be.

George:

I think it will be I think there's going to be things where you can go, hey let's fine-tune this. Let's move that let's do this and then better everything. I think the 10X Growth Conference, having been to it, in 2019, was it 2020? I think it was 2019. Having been to that, it's more entertaining, that it is insightful and educational.

Robby:

Yeah, I get it.

George:

You will still learn stuff. As in, you'll probably get something where you go. Oh yeah, that's cool, that's interesting. I'll write that down. But, as I said, it's going to be more keynote speeches and people talking yeah as opposed to fundamental.

Robby:

No, that's right.

George:

And you know he'll get like I think last year he got I think it was Trump last year actually or the year before at the 10X Growth Conference. Yeah, he got him there and he was like you know, and he just interviews people, like he interviewed when I went, it was Kevin Hart, there was Dana White, floyd Mayweather, magic Johnson, a few other people and like really well-known people and he would get them up, he'd have a chat with them, he'd talk about opportunities, what they've done differently. So I think, from that perspective, it's good just to again reiterate and refresh and see what those highly elite, successful people have been doing in their life, because, as we all know, success leaves clues it does, and it may even just be that one thing where you go, you get inspired by it and you go, oh, that's a great idea and it sparks that one little thing.

George:

So I'm looking forward to going on that trip.

Robby:

I also think a part of it is people need to be reminded more than they need to learn.

George:

Yeah, yeah sometimes Do you? They need to learn. Yeah, yeah, sometimes.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like most of the stuff, you're like I know this, but I don't do it.

George:

Yeah, but I find and I did a brief video on this yesterday I find that a lot of people, though, with these sorts of things too. They go to them with the intent of, you know, doing some cool stuff. They go, they get motivated and reminded, but then get out and don't do shit about it because they'll come back and there's those 400 emails that they have to answer. There's oh, this person's away sick today. Oh well, I'm not going to go do that. One thing that I wanted to do to change my life.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah. Which is exactly the point, dude. They need to be like hey, fucking, do something with this.

Speaker 3:

You know this. Self-developing junkie is the term? Yeah, that is a term. Is it yeah, that's a term self-developing junkie.

George:

Well, I found-.

Robby:

Like seminar junkies.

George:

Yeah, that's right, like in the last couple of years that we've been doing events.

George:

We see the same faces, we're starting to recognize the same people coming to the events, which is great. We love it and keep coming. But it's like, how come you're not taking the next step? You keep coming to the free event, you keep coming to the one-day course. Why not go? Hey, and you come up to us. That was amazing. Thank you, I can't believe I didn't know that. I'm so glad to have been here. Can I have a photo with you? You like yes, yes, yes. All those. They're all yeses at the moment, all those things, and it's like I feel like grabbing them and like shaking them sometimes like wake the fuck up. Why aren't you progressing? Maybe it's not with me. Go progress with something else. Go do something else. Let me see your feed, let me go see you going to the states, going and doing these things, because it started here. But what I see is the same old shit, the same old results.

Robby:

So why do you think that is?

George:

Look, I don't. I'm going to say people are in their comfort zones, they're creatures of habit and they're in their comfort zone and it's safe here in my comfort zone and if I don't take a risk, I'm not going to die, I'm not going to lose money, I'm just going to keep going through everything.

Robby:

So what keeps us in our comfort zone?

George:

Safety. Yeah, what else Would keep us there? Potentially, other people like other influences, external influences. They'll be saying, hey, why are you going out there? Stay here with me where it's nice and safe. Don't go and do that. I love you, you don't need to leave. It could be that aspect. It could be fear as well. I think, yeah, that's what I was going to say Fear.

George:

It's like the fear of failure, the fear of judgment. And it's funny. Again, you speak to so many of these highly successful people. Ask them how many businesses they failed in. I think Alex or Moses said there was nine. He said he had nine failed businesses before he did acquisitioncom or no gym launch, sorry, before he did his big sale of his company and he was going through it. He goes I had nine businesses, I did this, this, this, this, this, and they all failed. I went broke here. I did that. I lost all my money, I got ripped off over here. Someone took advantage of me there.

George:

Like they have to go out there and experience these things, because when you do get that $40, $50, $100 million business, the sharks are around and if you haven't had those failures down here, they're going to eat you alive, whereas when you're up here you go no, no, no, bloke, I don't trust you. Oh, let me take 50% of your business, I'll bring you all this. Fuck you Sign here and then we can have a discussion All right, and then you've got, because you've gone through that experience, now you know these things, you know the loopholes, you know the traps, you know everything that's associated with that, so you don't do stupid moves.

Robby:

Yeah, I think that fear is. If I, if I had to guess, I reckon fear would be the biggest one. As to what you know, I used to think the first time I bought into a program. So I've always since I got into real estate, real estate when you do real estate, you're not like a business, like you have to generate your own leads, and then you learn, oh yeah, leads, sales like this is how this works. You don't think about that when you're in employee. Yeah, you don't think, oh, we have to generate business, we have to do my. You don't think about that at all. You just think about what are my tasks? That's right. Right, when real estate makes you think like a business owner one, okay, I started wanting to learn more because of real estate. I started buying courses.

George:

Because of real estate.

Robby:

I went and bought my money or the company? No, it's my money. Yeah, dude, I went to. So I went to tony robbins because of jealous craig yeah, because I won an award. And they're like, we'll contribute $1,500 to any form of development you want. And I sent them a Tony Robbins link and I said, if I pay the difference, would you guys want to do this? And they're like, yeah, and I went and did all the Tony Robbins stuff because of Jealous Craig. Well, sorry, I went and got in the door because the first ticket was more than what.

George:

I was going to.

Robby:

Yeah, and then I went and did everything else.

George:

Yeah yeah yeah.

Robby:

But real estate taught me that and it taught me to go learn. But I remember thinking like, oh man, this course is five grand. It's like what if I'm going to get scammed? Do you know what I mean? What if? And I used to always think like, well, what? If I'm going to get scammed, do you?

Robby:

know, what I mean. What if? And I always think like, well, if you can teach me how to make a million bucks, why would you just? Why wouldn't you just do it? That used to be my mentality. Yeah, like, why wouldn't you just do it? If that's what you can do, why wouldn't you just do it? Like I don't think that anymore, I don't think that about anything at all. Like I never think, even if everything flipped upside down tomorrow, get up and dust myself off and like lost 10 grand, 100 grand, whatever it is, get up, dust myself off and go again. I didn't have that mentality a decade ago. Do you know what I mean? I didn't have that belief. I always thought, if I lost, like like you think like a house deposit or something, yeah, like, oh fuck, 50 grand or a hundred grand, if I lost that, that would be the end. Like I don't know if I could recover from that. That was my mentality. Yeah, it's like, it's almost like a scarcity. Oh, at a hundred percent it is yeah.

George:

It is without a doubt. It's like there's that is all the money in the world. There's nothing left.

Robby:

I can never get more. This just took me so long to get to this point. That's the thing, and I'm never going to get it back. That's the thing.

George:

That's the thing, because a lot of people have their only source of income or revenue or anything to make wealth for themselves is their nine to five.

Robby:

do anything.

George:

I was like oh I get my 80 to 100 grand a year, how am I going to save another 200 grand again?

Robby:

I had this mentality of that came over time and then it's like oh so, if it took me 10 years to get here and I lost everything here it's going to take me another 10 years. And it's like no, it doesn't.

George:

Those 10 years will equate to one year.

Robby:

You're not the person here that you were 10 years ago. You've invested in skill acquisition, you've invested in developing yourself, your mindset, and you can probably do what you did then I say it all the time. You should make more money every year.

George:

Yeah, that is such a cool reminder of what you've just said then. That's such a good reminder because a lot of people will think like that Say you want to buy a house now, because most people do so. Think like that Say you want to buy a house now because most people do so you go oh fuck, it's taken me, whatever it is 10 years to save 100 grand. Now, look, you've got that 10 years worth of knowledge, worth of wealth. Yeah, like why don't you think you could make a million dollars this year?

Robby:

Yeah, and if you did, if you saved, if you made the exact same amount of savings in year 10 that you did in year one, you're doing something wrong. Yeah, you know you're doing something wrong, or you're just repeating the same shit and guess what? If you're doing the exact same thing, you're actually losing out yeah inflation and everything, like you know.

Robby:

I mean, like over 10 years, what's what's? 100 grand today is not 100 grand 10 years ago, you know. I mean it's worth slightly less, right? Yeah, and I think people just need to be reminded of that, cause I used to think like that dude. I used to. I remember fucking signing up to a program in 2017 called million dollar agent bootcamp and I was shaking. I was fucking freaking dude, like I've done the right thing here, man. I was shaking, I was fucking freaking dude, like I've done the right thing here, man. I just invested I think it was four grand and I was shaking dude, like freaking out, like, oh, my God, man, what have I done? Um, yeah, and it was great, that's great. I learned a bunch of stuff and I was like, okay, did you make that money back?

George:

Yes, great, that's great.

Robby:

I learned a bunch of stuff and I was like okay, did you make that money back? Yes, I'll tell you what I learned. I'll tell you the key learning I had from that Key learning, like the one thing where I was like it was gratitude.

George:

That how funny, and it's nothing to do with what you probably expected.

Robby:

Nothing to do with sales or anything. The sales stuff was okay at the time. But it was the gratitude thing because I never thought about I'd never been overseas at that point in my life. I didn't know that other people don't get breakfast. I didn't know that. Do you know what I mean? Dude, I went overseas. Sorry, that's a lie.

Robby:

I had been overseas at that point in my life, but I went overseas for the first time when I was like 24 years old and I remember getting to Thailand, first country I ever visited, and freaking out and saying why are the roads fucked and why does it smell funny? And why is that guy climbing a ladder in thongs? Where's the work safe? Do you know what I mean?

George:

And you just don't realize how good you got it. Yeah, getting out of your bubble, which opens your eyes. It opens your eyes up to opportunities, to the things that you've got in your life, and that's where sometimes it makes you and forces you to create that change.

Robby:

Seeing what else. Seeing what else.

George:

Seeing what else is out there.

Robby:

Tony Robbins says, you change for one of two reasons desperation or inspiration. You either see more and say, hey, man, I want that and you want it, bad enough, or your back's against the wall, yeah, and you have to, and you have to.

George:

I've said this story. I'm pretty uh, I've said this story. I'm pretty sure I've said this story before. No, we have. I think you actually told me funny enough, whereas the two brothers, where they both had the alcoholic father and abusive father yeah twin brothers and they got separated.

George:

Um, you know, I was speaking to my wife and it was a similar scenario with someone. We knew not where they got separated, but but two people, exactly the same situation and how one went down the path of just destroying their lives and then the other one used that same scenario to make something of their life. So that's the full desperation and inspiration aspect of it.

Robby:

Yeah, it's also meaning.

George:

Yeah Well, the meaning behind their experience.

Robby:

That goes full circle to the whole thing about the experience with the 15-year-old and the 40-year-old. Yeah, or me and the other person at the Bali retreat Exact same experience. We gave it a different meaning. Do you know what?

Speaker 3:

I mean yeah, that went full circle.

Robby:

How good is that?

George:

How good is that we do that?

Robby:

a bit these days. Well, but that, hey, you know all the people that started off 2025 and you're like, if you're one of those people and you're like, hey, this year's been chaotic or you know, it's come off to this and happened, and I've got this bad news and Good.

Speaker 3:

Oh, dude, I just remembered now else and and uh, they had told me that their, their uh parent got some really bad news about like a terminal illness as well.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean? And it's like all these people coming off to 2025 not being a great start and it's like what's the meaning you're putting around it and how can you change that so that, if you are in that position, that you can turn around and say, okay, cool, what am I going to? What's the positive that comes out of this? You know what I mean. Yeah, what's the benefit? Dude, I was told to end my lease. Yeah, and I was fucking spewing. I was like fuck, are you fuck? Are you serious, dude? Like come?

Robby:

on man shifting houses now da, da, da, and my new apartment is sick and I'm paying less man and I've got a gym and pool and like facilities in the building and I was like, looking back, this is sick. At the time I was spewing the time difference. Yeah, three months, like it's only three months later. I've already realized how much of a better thing this is going to be for me. Yeah.

George:

But imagine if you were in such a great space with your mind when they say, hey, you're out, we're going to kick you out. Yes, serious, like yeah, you got to go. Oh, awesome, what a great opportunity for me to go and find another place. That's probably even better.

Robby:

Maybe I play more. I know it's almost unrealistic, is it?

George:

Yeah, is it?

Robby:

I don't know If you're that well in tuned, listen where you go when you get that moving houses and you say I made a video about this yesterday and I said there isn't a single point throughout this period where you say moving sick? Not one, there's not one. Yeah, I promise, look, I'll concur. I'm only saying this now because I'm on the other side.

George:

Having moved office over the holiday period, I completely agree.

Robby:

Why do you have to move a house?

George:

I've done that before too.

Robby:

I haven't done it in a long time. Yeah, I've done planning not to do it for a long time but uh, yeah, it's, it's full-on.

George:

Yeah, it's full-on. And you know what? You know, day one pissed me off, right. Oh fuck, I'm gonna throw you under the bus now, simon. I've fucking spent all this like my holiday period. Yes, setting up offices, setting up computers like everyone was ready and dude I was. So what I was pumped about is like moving office. There's always shit that doesn't work right and I'd planned everything. I planned the move day, I planned the server relocation, I planned the utilities being connected internet power, all that sort of stuff and just everything clicked, everything clicked.

Robby:

I was like so grateful.

George:

Like literally the day when I finally got the server moved and turned the computer on and it just worked, I'm like, oh, that's sick, so good, anyway. So I set up everyone's computers. So literally all they had to do was unpack their box of their own personal belongings, put it where you want to, that's fine. Lay out your desk. Couldn't be bothered doing that for them, they can just sort that out. But computers turn it on. You're working day one, that's what I wanted.

George:

And then fucking Simon comes in and starts moving his computer. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And to be clear, that's exactly how I said it. So work safe or work. What is it? Hr, hr, that's how I said it. Get used to it. Like, what the fuck are you doing? He's like, oh, I want to sit there. I said no, you're fucking sitting there. I'll put you there for a reason A you're not going to be in the office that much. Why do you care where you sit? And you're not moving. Like I've spent my whole holidays here. So you guys can work day one, you're just sitting there.

George:

And then he starts swapping screens with another person. Okay, they're my screens. I said you're not. Okay, everything is my screen. It's Pascon screens. Nothing's your screens. Okay, first of all, this is what you get. This is where it is. This is where you need to sit. Okay, get used to it. I don't know where it got me on that topic, but it was just annoying because I'd actually spent my whole break moving everyone and putting them in the right spot, and then he's coming in and changing everything. Why do you?

George:

think he did that he's a creature of habit man. It's that person where, if something's not the way that he has it or wants it, it's got to go back. He'll be thinking about it for the next week. There are people like that too. I very much try not to be like that. I think it's a huge disadvantage huge disadvantage. You know what I mean. Like my little boy, he wants to be last out of the house every day when we leave to go anywhere. He wants to be like the last person to pat the dog before we leave. He just wants to do that. No, no, I have to be the last one. I said no, you don't. I'm trying to snap him out of that stupid pattern because that's a restrictive pattern in his life and I don't want that to continue on when he grows up to be oh my, I'm sitting in the wrong spot, I need to move everything so those people?

Robby:

have you seen the people that touched the plane?

George:

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that, oh, like as in dude, get me to my location yeah, well oh well done buddy, you got this plane.

Robby:

Yeah, it's like I saw a video about it and then I was like that's pretty weird. I've never seen anyone do that. I don't know anyone that does that. And then I fucking dude. I was in line and the girls in front of me did it and she's like we're going to touch the plane right and she's like, and she goes, just saved the plane.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

It's not going down now, dude. Speaking of planes, did you see the thing that happened in South Korea? No, you didn't see it. No, no, no, should I? Did you see it? The thing that happened in South Korea, the plane? Yeah, that's not in South Korea. South Korea, the plane landed with no landing gear, dude, and couldn't stop and went straight into a wall. Everyone died, except for two people, dude, it's 10 minutes, 10 minutes before I boarded the flight to Bali.

Robby:

That's on the news on your and I'm like, are you serious, Like this is full on the whole thing's recorded. You can see the plane land, you can see everything skidding up. It goes straight into a wall. Blows up yeah, but it is.

George:

If you don't like planes, don't do that If you're planning a trip overseas, do not watch that one.

Robby:

Yeah, do not watch this video if you don't like planes.

George:

So, yeah, that habit. I think that's a huge disadvantage in life. Huge Because now his whole mindset was oh, I need my computer screens back because that's the ones I had at the old office, and now I've got a new computer screen which I don't like, so I want my ones back. I'm like, are you serious? No, you're not getting those, because he went from two screens to one screen.

George:

As I said, he's not in the office much anymore. His role's changed and he's more on-site based. So I was like, okay, you've got a big screen, you can operate on that In the times that you do come past the office. You've got somewhere to actually work. But he started moving it to the other desk and doing this and doing this. I'm like, no, you're not doing that, it's staying there, leave it. So yeah, little things like that annoy. Sorry, he gets restricted by that and I think that will happen throughout other elements of his life where he'll have that mindset, where if something doesn't happen the way he needs to, he'll get annoyed about it. And this isn't just picking on him. I think a lot of people are like that and it comes back to talking about what you said before, where it's that fear If this isn't the same, everything's going to be a disaster. I'm not going to be able to work really well.

Robby:

Behavioral flexibility.

George:

Without a doubt. There was another employee. Oh, he didn't like the way he was facing like he didn't like which he was facing a wall when he was working. I'm like, like, what the fuck man like? Honestly, is this really a problem? And then I'm like, okay, cool, you want to move to the other desk? That's fine. You can come in on saturday and move. Do not move during work hours, all right, you want to do it? Cool, stay after 5 30, move your shit over, not a problem. Or come in at 6 am, move everything over is it moving.

George:

I don't, I'm not, I'm not getting involved. I told the, I told my pa. She said you can, if that was a move, you can tell them out of hours, not now because I've set up everything. It's like that. You're in a spot. If it works, it works. If it works.

Robby:

If it doesn't, do you think you should have checked with him?

George:

Oh, not necessarily, I mean just I'm paying devil's advocate.

Robby:

Yeah yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. Do you think there would have been a benefit to you saying hey boys, these are the desks.

George:

I'm just about to set them up.

Robby:

First in best dressed. Where do you want?

George:

to sit. Yeah, yes, there is a level of what's the word Considering, being considerate to that? For sure I could have done that. I mean, in the moment when I was setting it up I didn't think like that, I was just get them in, get them sorted. Where can they sit? Yeah, you can sit there. You can sit there. So probably as well for me. I couldn't give a shit Also, yeah, so I'll probably look at it and go.

Robby:

I couldn't care where I'm sitting, but doesn't that show you the way that we think, based on the situation? Because you were like, hey, I've got all these tasks to do. Yeah, you know what I mean.

George:

Yeah, well, exactly I could have in that moment, instead of being like shut the fuck up, you're sitting there. It could have been like how good is it, I got employees that. That annoyed me.

Robby:

Let me make sure that all my employees are super happy about the way that they're facing. Yeah. Yeah, easier said than done. Yeah, that's right, but yeah, how funny, how funny how the little things can rattle people in the biggest way.

George:

But it's even like the move itself, right. So, people again, creature of habit, creatures of habit. Some people didn't like the move from one office to the other. Oh, I like the other office better. I saw that?

Robby:

yeah, I heard that why I was trying to tell. I was like Like.

George:

It's change isn't bad, like, but what makes it like? They're so used to getting up walking into this office sitting in their spot? This is where I live, this is my bubble, this is like. This is my spot. I like it, it's protected. And now, no, no, you're moving out, you're in a different spot, you're a different location. I can't handle, handle it. But you know what? Give it two weeks and that's going to be their new bubble.

Robby:

Yeah, because they just won't.

George:

That's right, they'll come around, they'll come around, but then, look at that, they have to inconvenience themselves for two weeks. It's that perturbation, it's that external irritation that forces you to grow. That external force, that external annoyance, whatever it is.

Robby:

Weirdly, it's a level of adversity.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is.

Robby:

It is, and I heard this thing by Joe Rogan the other day, and he goes one of the greatest things you can do in life is voluntary adversity. Do hard shit. So true, if you get up and you force yourself to go lift heavy weights first thing in the morning that's pleasant annoyer.

Robby:

It's just just like man. Like I did the hard part of the day, I, my bar is set here. This isn't that annoying anymore, yeah, whereas if you don't do anything hard and you set the bar here, all of a sudden all the little things fucking stack up yeah, what's like, even with you, when you're saying ice baths, getting into ice baths and stuff like that, it's like, no, that's not going to miss dude.

Robby:

That's the only thing I'm going to miss in the movie. Going to miss? Oh, yeah, yeah, because I had the ice bath placed around the corner. We should get one here, hey, don't fuck around, think this game.

George:

Can make it happen. Serious, I reckon we can make it happen. I was Warner ones, and one by one. Yeah, they're not expensive no they're not. It looks pretty cool, so I think I might get one of those.

Robby:

But they also sell those portable ice baths too Well you'd have to if you're going to get hot, you've got to get cold. Oh, do you, nah you shouldn't.

Robby:

So yeah, but that's a level no-transcript and that's also you know the when I say yes, you can't say no. Yeah, like when we go, we go, dude. My alarm went off this morning at 5.17. Don't ask me why it's 5.17, but it is. I don't want to. I was so tired yesterday, dude, like I had a full day and I was wrecked, but I knew I had stuff to do before we could sit here and record. And as soon as my alarm went off, I'm like okay, we go yeah get up, jump straight in the shower.

Robby:

I was like, just you gotta wake yourself up, let's go, like I've got shit to do and I need to do it before we sit here, otherwise I'm gonna be rattled throughout this whole conversation. Yeah, and I came in in the morning and then I called you. I'm like where the fuck are you?

George:

yeah, I know you're shitty because I was late hey, come on let's go.

Robby:

Got in here early, got some shit done. That's funny. When I say go, we go, you know what I mean yeah and I think that's one of the best things. You can train your brain to be conditioned to listen to you. Yeah, not the other way around.

George:

Yeah, because it man it's. The flow and effect of that is huge.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's massive.

George:

It's all the things you don't want to do in life. It's everything and it happens every day.

Robby:

Yeah, happens every fucking day. Listen, if you were driving and someone cuts you off and you lose your shit, I want you to know that you're in zero control of your life. Yes, you are in zero control of your life and you need to be doing things like this, things that you know what I mean, things that get you out of your comfort zone. And it's not saying you have to go change your desk just for the sake of changing your desk, but you have to put yourself in a position where a change like that doesn't impact you.

Robby:

Yeah, beans like that doesn't impact you.

George:

Yeah, Do you know what I mean? I used to be that person that loses my shit when someone does something. Yeah, Like in the car, I used to like on the horn, fuck you like abusing hand out the window and now I laugh. Now I laugh. If someone cuts me off, I laugh, or when someone abuses me, I laugh even more. I'm like your life's miserable bloke.

Robby:

Yeah, when you see someone get fired up, you're like shoot relax, do you? Know what I mean. I usually, yeah, when I get cut off, I just think, man, I wonder if that person saw me, Because what if I didn't see them? They might hurt themselves. You know what I mean? Driving vehicles people die on the road all the time. Yeah, Driving vehicles, people die on the road all the time.

George:

It's probably the most risky form of transport.

Robby:

It's dangerous yeah, it's a dangerous form of transport.

George:

More so than the plane going into the wall.

Robby:

Until you see the video.

George:

They obviously, obviously no one touched the plane while walking again on the plane.

Robby:

Dude the two.

George:

The two blokes, the two people that touched the plane they were right the two people survived.

Robby:

Both worked on the plane. Oh, did they yeah. You know, how I think there was a flight attendant sitting at the back of the room.

George:

Yeah, what the hell was that? Someone's obviously walked in An earthquake.

Robby:

Okay, anything you'd like to say to, I guess, wrap this episode up.

George:

Yeah, absolutely so. Okay, guys, I'd say the biggest thing with that is get out of your own way.

George:

Get out of your own way. This is talking to you, simon. No, but even with what you did going to Bali and doing your course, even with what we're about to do going to the States, get out of your own way and take control of your life. Understand that the obstacles in front of you really aren't obstacles. You're making them obstacles. You're making them things that are blocking where you want to be. Okay, and you're going to also be in that position for the rest of your life. If you don't make a change, you will be that person that wakes up and 65 years old and been sitting at the same fucking desk. Okay, change desk.

Robby:

I was going to do that at one point in my life.

George:

I reckon I could have as well. Yeah, when I was at Multiplex, had Multiplex not made me redundant, I would still be working there today.

Speaker 3:

I'd be in a great position.

George:

I'd be making really good money. I'd be in a senior role. I've got no doubt about that. However, I promise you I would still be there today. I've got mates we're meeting up with them next month that are still there from the time that I was there. They're in really like directors, really senior management, heavy hitters in the industry, yeah, like they're doing great. But I would still be in that desk.

Robby:

Yeah, I was in the same mindset with Mercedes. I was like dude, one of the best car brands.

George:

That's it. I get a company car. Yeah, why? One day I might even get an AMG as a company car.

Robby:

This will be my next 30 years. I was thinking this will be. You know what I mean long service lead, and it wasn't. It's not a bad life like you'd be comfortable you'd have everything you wanted.

George:

Yeah no, no, the right sort of comfort yeah but comfort is a killer 100% yeah, okay, but you say I might make 200 grand a year. 300 grand a year, it's good money no one wants to be too uncomfortable.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, of course don't go to sleep outside, do you?

George:

know what I mean?

Robby:

yeah, absolutely, absolutely don't do ice baths every day. Yeah, no, that's a good, that's a good idea.

George:

well, we have a shower here too now. So at the new office, so you can do the ice bath, have your shower.

Robby:

Yeah, get going. Probably fit the sauna in the In the bathroom. That's how big the bathroom is.

George:

Damn straight, yeah. So, guys, advice to kickstart the year. We're still early days in the year.

Robby:

Yeah, change your-. If you've had a bad start yes, change the way you feel about it.

George:

You can do that, I promise you Look at your situation, what's the positive that could come out of that? No matter how bad it is, man, no matter how bad it is, you could have had a death in the family you could have had that. Does that mean you now go? Okay, one of my parents is dead. I haven't really been around them that much. Maybe I get to spend some quality time with the other one now.

George:

Maybe this is the change that I need to really build that connection back up with this person. Maybe this is the change that they died of a heart attack and I'm 180 kilos Okay, I need to make some significant change now.

Robby:

Yeah, make some priorities.

George:

That's it. That's it, and I know they're extreme examples, right there, they're extreme examples. But look at, it's all relative. Look at your situation, big or small. Maybe, as I said, like it's a metaphor Change desk. Just change your desk, man. Like, do something different and see what happens, see what good comes out of it. Maybe you change your desk and you see a different perspective on your life.

Robby:

Yeah, you think differently.

George:

Think differently, guys. Thank you for tuning in, as always. I hope you have a million dollar day. One of my goals this year, as it was last year, is to make a million dollars in a day, and I feel that I'm getting closer to that every single day.

Robby:

I feel the same way.

George:

Sick Guys, thanks a lot and we will see you next time.

Robby:

Don't forget to subscribe. That's it, thanks guys. Bye everybody.

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