Million Dollar Days
Welcome to Million Dollar Days with Robby Choucair & George Passas. Your go-to podcast for a deep dive into the world of Life and Business Mastery.
Join hosts Robby Choucair and George Passas, a dynamic marketer and a seasoned Entrepreneur, as they navigate through an array of intriguing topics ranging from the everyday to the extraordinary.
Robby brings his marketing expertise to the table, offering insights into the latest strategies and trends. George, with his extensive experience in business, provides a grounded, practical perspective. Together, they explore everything from the feasibility of alien existence to effective goal setting, and even the nuances of religion.
Million Dollar Days is not just about business acumen; it's an exploration of life's many facets, wrapped up in conversations that are as enlightening as they are entertaining.
Tune in and be part of our journey, where every day is a million-dollar day, filled with learning, laughter, and the pursuit of mastery.
Million Dollar Days
Why Your Business Might Be Worth $0
A journey across the United States becomes a profound exploration of cultural mindsets and business realities for. Our travels–spanning Vegas, LA, New York, and Texas–reveal striking contrasts between American enthusiasm for success and Australia's more reserved "tall poppy syndrome." When our Million Dollar Days hat receives constant praise and high-fives from Americans, it exposes how deeply ingrained our cultural limitations on celebrating achievement can be.
Attending Grant Cardone's event and Alex Hormozi's workshop delivered transformative insights about business valuation and sales methodologies. Most jarring is the revelation that George's business, despite its revenue, could be valued at "$0" to potential investors due to "key man risk"–where a business depends entirely on its founder. This sobering assessment prompts immediate implementation of new systems and hiring strategies.
Perhaps most profound is our realization while driving supercars through Vegas. Despite fulfilling a dream of handling Lamborghinis and Ferraris, we confront the truth that material possessions rarely deliver the satisfaction entrepreneurs imagine. The symbolic achievement of affording luxury matters more than the possession itself, challenging listeners to reconsider what truly drives their ambitions.
Throughout our experiences, we navigate the uncomfortable psychological territory between comfort and growth. When presented with significant investment opportunities for business expansion, we openly discuss the internal barriers that emerge: "Now you want me to go further into the unknown... that's a scary leap." The candid exploration of these fears provides a masterclass in entrepreneurial psychology.
Join us for this deeply insightful episode that goes beyond business tactics to examine the mindsets, cultural influences, and personal revelations that shape our entrepreneurial journeys. Whether you're building your first business or scaling to eight figures, you'll find valuable perspective on what truly matters in the pursuit of success.
We came back last week from the States, after our trip went over there to see Grant Cardone, Alex Hormozy, Someone- a wise man once said if money can solve your problem, it's not a problem it's an expense, there must be a level of disbelief that it would happen. I think there is to a degree. There has to be. I think that's Because you're going out on a limb and you're trusting someone and look every step of the process has a different level of excitement, but I think the excitement's the next step.
Speaker 2:We get bored with what we know, yes, but then what?
Speaker 1:we don't know becomes scary. Are you influenced by the fact of who he is, what he's done? I think, yes, yes, you should be. Yes, exactly, he's done it.
Speaker 2:He's got the runs on the board, the biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1:And we're back. And we're back. Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, good night, wherever you are in the world. Thank you for joining us Million Dollar Days podcast, as always. My name is Top George and I am joined by Mr Robert. That is I. What's going on, man?
Speaker 2:We're on the other side, been to the other side, been to the other side and survived. See how I said we're on the other side now. Yeah, because I now classify myself as a US citizen, you are significantly influenced.
Speaker 1:Massively. I said something to you in an American accent the other day. You said R? R and I was like whoa, maybe I was just trying to be a pirate who knows the mysteries of the world. But yes, we've just. Well, we just. We came back last week from the States. After our trip Went over there to see Grant Cardone. Alex Hormozy spent some time in Vegas doing some other activities the sights, the sounds, everything that Vegas had to offer. So it was a really good trip.
Speaker 2:You know I can't believe. We're like halfway through April.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first quarter's down.
Speaker 2:Like down, down and we're halfway through the next month. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's been hectic. It feels like we never went overseas. Did you feel that? Do you feel that Like it was a dream? Yeah, man, like I just came back and it was just hit the ground running and it's like been nonstop ever since, even walking into this podcast. Just shit going on.
Speaker 2:And it feels like, if you were to describe how it feels like from a time perspective, like I went like three months ago and I was like we've been here for 10 days, yeah, exactly right, exactly right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we've spoken a bit about it at length. Went for dinner last night with one of the other guys. I went to the States with what was one of your takeaways.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what I want to get you to start first because you've been before? Yes, and I haven't. You know what? I'll go first because I haven't, because then I'm going to be influenced by your influentialness. That's it, most people are. Biggest takeaway we play in Australia. We are very how do I? I want to say this without like, in the sense of like, we play a really small game. We're really restricted, not in a you can't do, but in a no one dude like the hat, the hat's the big thing right, that was a key, key takeaway.
Speaker 2:So for everyone, listening, I'm if you're watching this and wearing a million dollar days hat right now. I wore this almost every single day in the US and as I'd walk around, people would be like everywhere on the plane, you know, in the airports, wherever I was New York, la, texas they were all like hey man sick hat. Yeah, fuck, yeah, million dollar days, blah, blah, blah. You know, let's make a million bucks today. So many people you know grouse hat, where can I get one from? I reckon I got a compliment a day, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at least I remember you telling me before I got there you're like dude, everyone keeps talking about my hat and I'm like, oh, hat too. And yeah, on the plane, same thing. Just sitting next to a lady on the way to Vegas from San Fran and she goes oh man, love your hat, thanks, available for $39.95. I reckon I've had $49.95.
Speaker 2:Should start selling shit in USD. We'll get into that, but I reckon I've had one person comment to me on the hat. Yeah, yeah, it's here.
Speaker 1:I don't think I ever have. Yeah, it was my mom. It doesn't count. Yes, it does. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. You could be wearing a fucking Sylvester Stallone hat.
Speaker 2:That would be a they exist you didn't comment on it, of course, but yeah, you know what I mean. And then it's like the hat isn't like it's a cool hat, but like it's nothing. There's nothing apart from what it says. There's nothing else, there's no real design to it, so like no one looks at it from a design aspect. Yeah, it's just riding. It's just riding on a hat, but it's what it says Million dollar days and the fact that everyone there was so on board with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, celebrating it. Well done, good on you, keep going. And it's not to the extent that you are a millionaire or they would assume that, but they're like, hey, man, love the message, love it, keep going, let's do it, let's do it together. High fives. And man, just everyone was I think that was um.
Speaker 2:it just goes to show the perspective. Yes, why?
Speaker 1:don't we celebrate things like that, is it? People are more reserved. They just don't want to come up to you and sound like a dick.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I'm not one person Like there wasn't a single moment where a single person came out to me and said it and I looked at you like what a dicker. Yeah, I'm saying here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, yeah, no, no. But I'm saying, even if it happened in there, like over there sorry didn't happen once like why would we look at it that way here?
Speaker 2:we wouldn't. Yeah, what's that whole mentality, that tall poppy syndrome, shit, yeah, I think that is. That is was exposed to me of how much it really is a massive thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, it really is, and it's just in the simple subconscious things that people are doing and don't even realize it.
Speaker 2:yeah, you, you know, and and like even myself, I'd be like I wouldn't tell someone that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Would you have gone up to someone? And said hey, sick hat, no, and then I'm like that's, that's been ingrained and, uh, I'm conditioned, yeah, by my environment. That's right, you know what I mean. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, without a doubt, that was the big thing. Now, the worst fucking thing, actually. I'll let you tell your big thing first, and then we'll get on to the I just found that when I was over there, they did everything bigger.
Speaker 1:As far as entertainment is concerned. No one comes close. No one comes close to the States. You go order a fucking pizza. It's bigger, like everything is bigger there. It's so out there in your face. They do entertainment better than anyone else. We went to an ice hockey game. It was just as good as almost any AFL game I've been to and I don't know a thing about ice.
Speaker 2:Fuck the AFL dude.
Speaker 1:I don't even know a thing about ice hockey. We were sitting behind. There was these people behind us. They loved it. They heard our Australian accent. They're like hey, what are you doing? I'm like we've never been to the ice hockey, you what? You haven't been to ice hockey. They're like blown away, Like okay, this is what happens. He gets a goal. These guys are good, this guy's bad.
Speaker 2:Shame.
Speaker 1:Shame, that's right.
Speaker 2:It was so good, every single like ridiculous.
Speaker 1:The stadium erupted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was fantastic it was like a ship, like a ship horn, yeah, and the dry ice and like it was full on.
Speaker 1:It was full on. And then you go to shows. Okay, it is vegas, there is a bit more of that, but I don't doubt that that's what it's like at other places when you go to a sporting event anywhere over there. So they do things bigger, right, and sometimes you know what quite often better, quite often better they just won't spare the expense to go out and entertain. I found that most people were quite friendly on it, like happy most people.
Speaker 1:I didn't see scarcity there. You know you speak a lot of. You know they're doing it hard the dollars. You know that people aren't making money. I didn't see any of that. That could very well have been because we were in Vegas and you know people are lining up at Starbucks to get their coffee in the morning. The conversion for us was ridiculous over there at the moment paying 60% more on anything you purchased. That's how you figured it out 60% more on anything you purchased. So it was full on. Like you're paying $11, $12 for a small latte and it tastes like shit. That's one thing that don't do well is coffee.
Speaker 2:So apparently they do, no, they don't, no, no, just because their taste buds are. Let me explain Go, go, go. The girl I sat next to on the plane from Vegas to San Fran, yes, yeah, and she was like you're going to the wrong places. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We do have like Melbourne Sydney coffee. She goes we've got the same thing, wow, and I was like where? And she's like you're going to like the Starbucks and all that. It's like wrong places. You have to go coffee roasters, and that's where you yeah, and. I was like okay, yeah, there you go, a bit late.
Speaker 1:That's true. I'm sure there was places that existed like that there, but we didn't find any or go to any. But that's all good. Biggest takeaway Look the way they sell over there is a little bit different too, especially at the GC event, the Grand Cardone event. That could be very specific to his style of training and selling. They're very in your face, they're very pushy, they're very persistent is probably the best word. I wouldn't say pushy. I wouldn't say pushy, would you? Yes, I don't know. Yeah, but that's their sales tactic.
Speaker 1:They'll use it like an agreement frame to go. Don't you think that this, if I could give you something that would help you, that would be great for you? And it's like you have to answer yes, like no. No, that wouldn't be great for me. Why would I want to make more money? So they try to frame you in that we know someone?
Speaker 3:shout out to Scott we know someone that was there with us, who was being almost harassed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's also his inability to say stop and leave me alone, I'm not buying. Yeah, like you give them an inch, they'll take a mile. They will take a mile.
Speaker 2:At one point that guy came and stood right in front of me at the stand and blocked my view to the stage to talk to Scott it's like oi, like move, Like you're paid to be here. Like you know what I mean. Take this conversation elsewhere, Scott.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out Like like you know that was your other people. Yeah, I thought that was extreme. Then, when he came, we were sitting down watching the show dude. I couldn't see the stage, but he was standing in front of me talking to scott and he's come to camp to get scott, like dude, that's like just chill, he'll come outside and speak to you, um, but I think that's that's what it is very grained in them. Like you have to make. These are your targets. You got to make 10 sales a day minimum.
Speaker 2:Call them harass I didn't like that.
Speaker 1:I don't like that, yeah, he's always been like that, as in Grant Cardone's methodology, and we spoke and met someone whilst we're up there as well, and he was saying when he went into their office he goes there were people still there at 9.30 at night because they hadn't met their targets for the day. So it's like no, no, keep hitting the phones, keep hitting the phones and look they're making money that they're there. So that was interesting to see. But then we went to Alex or Moses and it was different. It wasn't that style of ramming it down your throat and trying to get the sale as you walked out the door.
Speaker 2:He was more give the value and then yeah, and he seems like he's always been that way inclined. That way inclined yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which I like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely so, yeah, absolutely so. What's your?
Speaker 2:biggest takeaway They've got bigger pieces. Yeah.
Speaker 1:My takeaway from them is very similar to yours. I just don't feel that there's a scarcity mindset over there comparatively to here. I think too many people are more reserved and they don't celebrate wins as much here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like their whole thing is like this is a place where your dreams come true yeah, and that's great, and it's like if you go by happy for you about it yeah, perfect example.
Speaker 1:It's like if you go buy a lambo. I was speaking with my brother about this the other day. He one of his friends wanted to buy the urus, the lamborghini, and he jumped in it. Uh, he goes, yeah, I'm gonna go buy it. And my brother was like, like man, don't do it, he goes. Oh fuck, he goes.
Speaker 1:The image you're going to portray by having that is going to be detrimental to you, your business, your brand. He goes don't buy that car. I get it's cool, I get it's this, it's this, it's this, but he goes. It's not going to be great for you, whereas in the States you would buy that car and someone would be like, wow, like man, what did you do to get that car? That's amazing. Tell me the story Like that. Good on you for doing that, well done, for taking a risk, well done.
Speaker 1:And I feel that they celebrate that aspect a little more. It's not seen as a you're an asshole, you're, you're you know whatever it might be drug dealer, you're a fucking crook. You're making money off the back of poor people. Like. It's not seen like that here. That's an australian thing, that's what I mean. So, but to see that firsthand was different, because we're not exposed to that. You get a lot of people to celebrate. Like how many people? When we went to events, I said what do you do with yourself? Like, oh, we do this and this. Oh, man, that's amazing, well done, congrats. Like it's great that you're doing that and you've come all the way here to invest in your business, like that there was. There was that aspect which found quite interesting. There was one other thing which I spoke about on my socials. This was more of a personal thing, not necessarily something that I learned at America. When we were there, we drove some supercars Aston Ferrari, lamborghini and one more, porsche, the GT3. What was your favorite? The Lamborghini, the Huracan, yes.
Speaker 1:I like that. That was my favorite out of all the four of them. Aston was really nice, but that one overall.
Speaker 2:I thought that was really nice. The Lamborghini and the Ferrari were on a different level of car. They were, yeah, compared to the other two.
Speaker 1:They were correct, I agree, but I didn were correct, I agree, but I didn't love the ferrari. Funny, really right. So yeah, I remember you said you did, but I just thought from a perspective of if I was going to have this as a daily drive. I didn't like the interior as much. It was only a two-year car, I know that's what I'm saying as an overall package. The lambo did it for me yeah anyway.
Speaker 1:So what I, what I got the most out of that experience was we got to do 26 odd laps with these cars. I had an instructor. It was a lot of fun doing 200K down the straight. So it was fun. And what I realized was I love my cars. Just to clarify I love cars.
Speaker 1:I've always wanted to have a garage full of cars and in your mind you build it up to be this super amazing thing, to have these cars one day. What a dream that will be. When I get that car, I'm going to be complete. I'm going to be so happy Driving these cars. It just wasn't that big of a deal. I got in them, drove them, had fun, enjoyed it, still appreciated that car. I realized that when I do eventually get these cars, it's not going to be like oh wow, now I'm happy, this is amazing. Now I've achieved something great and I felt that it'll get to that point where it's just going to become another daily drive. It's just going to become the norm that this is what we do now. This is what we have, and it's not going to be something that fulfills me, and I think if you're looking for fulfillment out of objects like that, you'll probably when you get them eventually get bored and need something else to fill that gap in your life.
Speaker 3:So that was interesting for me to do that. You don't think that's everything though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's applicable to a lot of things for sure, and you can even sorry, not everything, potentially everything. Yeah, I mean I haven't thought about it in great depth, but it's like look at your business and where you're at today, go back 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:There's a time, yeah, yeah, you would have been like, oh my god, I'm gonna turn over that much in 10 years, are you serious? And whereas now you're like, fuck, okay, is that all I'm making? Yeah, yeah, these get all these problems. What a what a drainer, you know. Maybe I should go back to when I didn't make that much money and that was just an interesting thing for me to come to that realization and go not that I ever thought the car was going to be, you know, make me happy or whatever it is, but I think the hype behind it just clarified that a little bit and goes okay, cool, this is what's important. I love the journey more than the destination, like getting to it and saying being in a position where I go, put the money down and get the car. It's more symbolic for me going okay, cool, well done, great achievement that I've put myself in a position to be able to get these cars, all those homes, those holidays, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2:So it means less to you now.
Speaker 1:It's not that it means less. I still want them, I still want to and I would still be excited the day I go pick it up. But it was just more a realization. What did you realize that? It's not yeah, probably not as important to me as I once thought.
Speaker 2:Does that change anything for you?
Speaker 1:Not really. I still want them. I still want to have these fun things in my life and toys. As I said, I'm a car enthusiast, so I do enjoy it and I want to buy them. Does it change anything? It might just prioritize a little bit differently that's all, yeah, okay you know, it's like when we said, get the car because it'll push you to pay for the car. You know, because you've got that thing that you've got to pay the 10 grand a month to keep it, and all this sort of shit.
Speaker 2:I don't feel I need that push anymore so just want to do the zagami thing, or not, that's just more for content.
Speaker 1:I just want to make the video that goes viral and says let me show you how I paid for this car in three days.
Speaker 2:Let me show you how I bought this car and paid for it.
Speaker 1:Straight away. Straight away In three days, because that's just going to be a cool story, that's going to be something cool to do. So here I've just invested a million bucks or half a million dollars, bought the car, got my four tickets to Zagami tent at the Grand Prix. Let me show you how I'm going to pay for this car in one transaction or two, but yeah, so that was cool to see that and just a little bit more focus on well, if we're trying to build these businesses and trying to do some extraordinary things, probably the car is not the route to go down. Maybe invest in the business and do other things. Probably the car's not the route to go down. Maybe invest in the business and do other things. Then there was the offer. So when we saw Alex Ormosi, I was actually quite. I was actually full disclaimer. I've always followed and liked Grant Cardone for quite a few years.
Speaker 1:I thought his event was underwhelming. What did you think? I'd been to the previous one and the previous, so the biggest guest that came on this event was ryan reynolds and he was good. He's a good, good guest. I was a good guest. I enjoyed listening to his story. He's got, he's done businesses. It was. It was cool. There was no one that I went to that level. The one that I went to in 2020. Every guest was like almost every guest was like that each day you had at least two guests that were as big as him. Yeah, and that was the difference, and I was kind of half expecting that I was waiting for that huge guest to come in and he was, but then everyone else was like, oh yeah, you know who he is, but I mean, it wasn't half the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, some of them. And then like Eric Trump.
Speaker 2:Eric Trump's pretty big, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was big, so he was there. Okay, yeah, who was the guy? That political guy that goes to the Unis? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But I know I watch his stuff all the time. I like him. That's right, charlie Kirk. So he was there, yeah, and then there was a few other. Jimmy John's. Jimmy John's like a franchise. That's a billion Did you know?
Speaker 2:anything about Jimmy John's Nothing. He was entertaining, yeah, he was very good, yeah, but did you know anything about it? No, not at all Me either. I've never even heard of it.
Speaker 1:He was just bringing in people with huge levels of success, some which were boring some which Like brought in a lot of billionaires.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly right. Very political as well. So it was very like everything was about yeah, very red, that's the best way to put it Always referencing back to fixing California. We actually were sitting at the event thinking he's going to announce it, he's going to go, he's running for governor, cause this was the last 10 X conference he's going to do. We thought he was going to announce he was going to go for governor of California and we wereing Elon Musk. He mentioned him probably at least five to six times throughout the train, throughout that At least At least. So we were expecting oh, elon Musk, and that would have been pretty cool to say that. I'm kind of disappointed it didn't happen. So that was a bit underwhelming, but I'm still glad I went. No, no issues. Overwhelming, but I'm still glad I went. No issues, I don't regret going to that.
Speaker 1:It was still cool Something to do it's good to. Again, I'm glad for the experience to see the guys selling and going hard and just watching Scott be uncomfortable the whole time. That was quite entertaining.
Speaker 2:That was amazing. I got a question for you about regret. Yeah. Is the definition of regret meaning you wouldn't do it again if you had the chance?
Speaker 1:You wouldn't do it again if I had the chance Do you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Not really Is the definition of regret. If I say I would not do something like oh, would I do it again. Oh, no, I wouldn't do that again, Does that mean you regret it? Oh, no, I don't regret it, but that's what I'm asking you. So is the definition of regret meaning you wouldn't do it again? Because if you would not do something again, why would you? If you don't regret it, why would you not do it again?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So is it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 2:You just said yeah, exactly no, as in. I don't think that's the definition, though. So, but if you don't regret it, so you're saying it's I can want not, I would say, if I could take this back or never do it again, I would. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I don't regret it. And then it's like but if you don't regret it, wouldn't you do it again? Like, wouldn't you make it happen again? Even if it's not, even if it doesn't mean do it a second time, but relive that same experience, you would. Yeah, if you don't regret it, yeah, that's right. But if you say I wouldn't have like I wish if I could go back, I wouldn't have gone, yeah, that means you regret it, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I agree with that. Um, so yeah, I think it was. Overall, it was still good to see things in place and and we met some cool people as well along the way going to those events. And then we went to Alex Olmosi as well and I was surprised. I'm not surprised. I was happy with that investment that we made to go there and have a chat with him. Yeah, I think that was great yeah we learned some stuff that we hadn't done before, some processes that we hadn't done before, just real practical. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was good. It was good to have the stuff and the tools that he put forward. I enjoyed that. And then his offer and what he did and how he was getting there. It's that next level of training and stuff like that. So I thought it was pretty cool and we got an invite back on day. So it was a two-day event and we got an invite back on day three, which was cool.
Speaker 1:Out of 110-ish people that were there in the room, he selected 13 people to come back on day three and have a chat with him. So I went back and I said can my business partner come? He's like, yep, no worries. So we went there and had a chat with him on day three and it was again the next level. So they looked at numbers that we had provided previously before going to the event and said, yeah, you're the type of business that qualifies for us to work further with and develop your business and get it to this level and do that sort of stuff. So that was really cool to see and it comes back to.
Speaker 1:I believe that if I signed up to that it would be beneficial for the business and for me. But I didn't sign up to it and then you put the question forward why so? If you don't sign up to it, then obviously you don't believe that that's going to work. So it was really the question that was burning in me and still is. I must say it's still annoying me because I had a follow-up phone call with one of his sales guys yesterday and young kid, but very good. You know, age doesn't determine ability.
Speaker 1:He was asking some really good questions Very well, sales trained Very well, very well, very well, and it was great because we can appreciate that, and a very different type of seller to Kano. What we experienced.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, very, very different. He was like asking the right questions, having an open conversation, yeah, whereas the other guys were like pushing, and you know what I mean. Yes, I, the other guy told me. I said I'm not here, like you're not, I'm telling you right now, you're not going to sell me yeah like I will, not, I will the only thing. Like I'm gonna flip, like that's what, that's the only thing that's gonna come out of this. Leave me alone. Yeah, whereas did I call you again?
Speaker 1:never, exactly, and that's going to come out of this. Leave me alone, whereas with me. Did they call you again? No, never, exactly, and that's why I mean Scott left it or other people leave it as an open-ended thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah, let me grab your number, maybe we can chat and they find you in the room of 10,000 people. They see you and they leech on, they go bang. But yeah, he was just asking intelligent questions. Yeah, very, it was good questions to ask to get a sale. It was very good. Yeah, sales prices were very good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean my biggest thing to come out of that now, because I reckon that was why didn't I, why haven't I signed up? Because it was a significant investment. Yeah, right, hundreds of thousands of dollars, yeah, but if you would invest, if I said to you look, robbie, give me $200,000. Just give me $200,000 and we'll turn it into 20 mil. Yeah, let me go get a bank loan, thanks, do you know what I mean? Why wouldn't you do that? There must be a level of disbelief that it would happen. Is there? I think there is to a degree. There has to be, Because you're going out on a limb and you're trusting someone and, look, are you influenced by the fact of who he is, what he's done? I think, yes, yes, you should be. Yes, exactly, he's done it. He's got the runs on the board. So it's like okay, well, why?
Speaker 2:not do it. Yeah, so there's this whole thing around beliefs. You might know this, but I'll share it because I think it'll be interesting for everyone listening. So there's three things. When people don't move forward to something, it usually comes down to one of three things they either don't believe it can happen, don't believe they can do it, or don't believe that vehicle is the right vehicle.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean? Yes, so it's like there's either a I don't think he can, or it's a I don't think I can, or it's a I don't think I can, or it's a I don't think it can. You know what I mean? Without a doubt, yeah, and it's usually one of those three or a combination. Oh, yeah, possibly more than one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. But it usually comes down to something like that Cause. Then they teach this through online selling, saying like, when you're selling online, you need to be able to knock those three beliefs out without getting them to say it. You need to be able to knock all three out. Russell Brunson teaches it. He's actually really good. He's booked dot-com secrets. He's like, if you can knock those three things out, you'll usually get the go-ahead Usually Not always, but usually. This is a guy that sold a software product which is very difficult to sell one-to-many and did $3 million in sales in 90 minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Amazing, amazing when you look at that, like we had an event when we got back literally got back from Vegas on a Friday and then the following Thursday had a three-day event that I was doing and you know I wanted to use a few of the strategic tactics that they were using from sales, from just my lessons, from everything in that process.
Speaker 1:It was a great three days. It's going to be a matter of, I reckon, the follow-up as to see what happens as far as how successful that sale process becomes. Again, I'm selling a similar thing that Alex was selling to me, and you asked the same question like where's the barrier for those people buying from you? For them that's, I think it's a fuck all bit of money yeah I think people are crazy, exactly, exactly exactly for him.
Speaker 1:He's like dude he goes it's just levels, there's no money, don't be a dumb shit, let's do it. Yeah, and it's funny like that he uses the influence. It was funny because I was on the call with his salesperson on the mobile. We're talking and then I hear hey, george, I'm like Alex, how are you going? He's like good, when am I going to see you next? And I come into your office straight away. I said, hey, I'm literally talking to Alex.
Speaker 1:I put it on mute. I, I'm literally talking to Alex. I put it on mute, I go, I'm just talking to Alex and he goes Alex, who the fuck's Alex?
Speaker 2:I have no idea. I have no idea. Come on man.
Speaker 1:There's only one, alex, but it was funny. Again, that's another story. I guarantee you that was planned. I think it was. I think it's like, hey, I've got a conversation with this guy from Australia at thing. All it was. It was like, hey, I've got a jet, but I hope you're in good hands Speak to you soon.
Speaker 2:I've never seen you blush before. I was ready to cry. I was like man, what's going on here? Who's this Alex guy? Who's this Alex guy? Yeah, Does Nicole know Shit? Does Nicole know my mind didn't go there.
Speaker 1:No, but it was again another strategy which I saw straight away, but it was um, yeah, it's just, am I getting in my own way?
Speaker 2:I'm sure the answer will come to you when it. I think it will. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:I think at some point, cause there's part of me that was like fuck it, just go do it. Let's go do it. Go get a loan If you don't want to. Because I say, oh, cashflow, because that's what I'm thinking. So they offered me options. I said, listen, you can do this over eight months. We'll do another intake in eight months time. Just do it now in the incrementally over the next eight months, just pay it off. Okay, that could work. That could work. Oh, what else? What other excuses could I bring up? You know what I mean. If it's your cash flow, I'll go. Okay, we'll go get a loan. Go get a loan, 6%, don't worry. So you got the money, you pay it off as you pay it off, and then in 12 months time, when you've made the money back, pay the loan off, go win another job, go make more money.
Speaker 2:Someone wise man once said if someone wise man once said if money can solve your problem, it's not a problem, it's an expense expense.
Speaker 1:Right, that's it. Um, no, yeah, other excuses that you know. I even said to you. I said if it was just me and I wasn't married, didn't have kids, didn't have other responsibilities, kids, uh I would have done it. So so what, now that you have those really important people, you don't want to do it for them?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see what I mean. This is the internal battle that I keep having. I'm not, but they're the internal questions that I've got.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you did, you did for sure. It's internal questions that I've been having with myself. It's good, sit back around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just do it.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't mean you have to do a period. I said and we had this conversation at the start I said, hey, like life is pretty good. Do you know what I mean? You don't have to keep going yeah, but just accept and say like, yeah, I'm gonna. This is it like I'm super comfortable here. I've got everything I need? Yeah, more than I probably thought I could say for myself. Probably got more than I ever thought I could have at one point in my life. You know what I mean. And then sometimes that puts you in a position where it's like this is scary now. Like now it's like going to the unknown again. I did that fucking once already and that was fucked. So true, you know what I mean. And now it's like you want me to go further into the unknown.
Speaker 1:You can't, of course you can.
Speaker 2:Ah, fuck, what was he? There's no recovery, no recovery at all. So, but you get what I'm saying. It's like now you want me to go further into the unknown and it's like that's a scary leap man. It's like cause what if I fall now? And it's like this has been hard. This isn't cause, it's not. Business is hard, dude, Do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean, and it's like this has been a mission to get here, and it's like, even though you know that if everything was to go away, you could do it again, it's like like there's a part of you that doesn't want to test it.
Speaker 1:No, so true, yeah, you're like, dude like, even though I know I could push and it'll be a slug, but I'd do it.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't want to go, dude, I don't want to go to zero again. I don't want to do that, yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a true feeling, man. It's a scary, scary feeling. But I also remember feeling that way when I was going to invest five grand into a course. Yeah, and thinking what happens if this like I really, and I think of it it's so dumb to me now, but I think of it at the time like what if this guy scams me? And it's like, even if he scams you, like you're going to lose five grand, you're going to be okay. But at the time I was like, man, it's five grand, it could be. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I used to think if I'd lose 50 grand, I was done like that's it, you're never gonna come back from that. And it's like give up, that's gonna happen, dude. And then it's like, how do you build the toughness to sit there?
Speaker 2:like five mil, no, like youinch yeah, even if we fucking, even dude, fuck it, flinch, but do it anyway. Do you know what I mean like flinch, but do it anyway. Better than fucking, because you might never get to the point where you don't flinch. You know, I still, if I lose three bucks, I say yeah, fuck, but yeah, it's a, it's a great life will send things your way that will remind you of shit do you know?
Speaker 2:what I mean because, like, prior to that, we'd never thought about it, I wasn't even thinking. I wasn't even thinking. I was thinking they're going to take this thing in a two day workshop. It's going to be sick. It's probably going to be a sale who gives a fuck. Yeah, yeah, but that's all we were expecting. It for sure it was going to happen. Yeah, yeah, but I wasn't. Um, yeah, well, it makes sense. He's not going to just put on a workshop for five grand um per person. Us, us, us. It was, don't forget, don't forget, it was in US. Um, and I was like what was it? Tugger, yeah, life sends things your way, that kind of give you perspective on things you hadn't seen before.
Speaker 1:Well, I walked past your office yesterday. Yeah. And I was like, hey, remember, like this time last year we were talking about making a commitment and moving into a new office. I remember that. And now we're in the off, now we're in the new office. We walk in here every day like it's nothing. We've got our own podcast studio with a neon light.
Speaker 1:Zoom in on the neon light. So it's like imagine what will happen in the next two to three years. We'll be sitting having a coffee. Remember when we had that little office in Albert Park? You remember those days. How good life was back then, how exciting it was when we had that little office and four employees or 10 employees, and now we've got 200 employees.
Speaker 2:Every step of the process has a different level of excitement, but I think the excitement's the next step. It's not the. You get bored of what you know. Do you know what I mean? Like it just becomes a law of familiarity, we, you just start to know this and it becomes normal. Do you know what I mean, dude? Think about the level of emotion when you first had a kid yeah, yeah. And then think about, uh, and I'm sure and I reckon you're pretty good at this, but this is for mainly for the listeners how many times you've gone home and just hey, hey, like just fricking, stop. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like they're trying to hey, hey and you're like just you know what I mean, and it was like there was a time where that shook your whole life, that kid, and then, like you, just get so used to it every single day, day after day. Same thing with the sick car dude. You jump in the sick car the first time. You're like this is fucking mad Best day of my life. Yeah, and then three months in you're like fuck, I've got to go for petrol again yeah, oh, fucking hell, I've got to go to services.
Speaker 2:This thing's going to cost me a mint. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And it's like it just becomes we get, we get bored with what we know, yes, and then what we don't know becomes scary. Yep, without a doubt. It's like the rollercoaster of life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. I mean it's powerful stuff. I love talking about this.
Speaker 2:What did you hate about?
Speaker 1:the US. The tipping was annoying. Fuck, the tipping was annoying.
Speaker 2:Especially if you didn't get the service or if they don't give you any like. There's no way like if it's like a Popeye's.
Speaker 1:It's an expectation, like I hate the expectation of it. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:No, no, you should tip if it's warranted, yeah, and they want 18% as a minimum option. Now, yeah, you know what I mean and I'll do this thing and I'll share it. And I was at a comedy club. So I went to LA sorry, vegas, la, san Diego, new York, texas, back to Vegas, okay, so I went around, yeah. And when I was in New York, I went to a comedy club, had so it's really funny I can't remember his name, dude like I had not laughed like that. Yeah, right, and I laughed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I laughed on this show. I actually didn't ask you, huh, I didn't ask you about the comedy, but the comedy club was fucking it was really, really good.
Speaker 2:If I find his name, I'll share it, but the guy was great. I was pissing myself, dude. He was hilarious, and it was very expensive, very expensive. Like They've got a thing two drink minimum per person. You're paying 30 bucks a ticket. This is all US. So it was me, my cousin and his wife, and then we're there and you're there for I don't know an hour and a half and the top final bill came to like $230. Us yeah. And then they want, like to the extent where, before the last person comes on, they're collecting all the bills and they go on the mic and say who's not from America? Okay, you guys need to know we tip here, like they're letting you know. So the thing comes 230 bucks and then it's like minimum 18%, so that's like an extra 40 dollars. Us yeah, so that's like 70 bucks and I'm like I'm not tipping that, like you know what I mean. So I went to tip 15% and I hit.
Speaker 1:Cancel.
Speaker 2:No, no, I hit the thing, I hit custom and then I hit 15 enter and it tips 15 cents. Oh right, yeah. And I was like looked and I panicked and had gone through. And I'm like, and I looked and I panicked and had gone through, and I'm like and I'm waiting for the screen to change before I give it back to her. And then the screen changed and I handed her back the thing On your own, yeah, and I got out of there, but a tip's 15 cents. So it was a comedy club.
Speaker 2:And I had fun and you had a good time and you had a good time and I had to get support from our audience audience.
Speaker 1:Yes, so that that was annoying. Look, every meal we ate there was nothing like a cheap meal was 40 to 50 bucks every time. That was shit. That was shit. The food was shit. Yeah, I didn't rate the food, I was horrible. The only good food. Funny enough when we said it was when we went to the alex or mosey course and they put on the buffet it was actually quite nice that was a good quality food.
Speaker 1:That was very good. Um, look, there was a place Italy where we went. They had some good food there. Some of the pastas we had. They were nice, but again 50 bucks. Way better the time you convert it. Way better food here, heaps, heaps, better. We're very spoiled here with food.
Speaker 2:That's something Australia definitely has. I, I went everywhere, all those Popeye's.
Speaker 1:Chick-fil-A. How much weight did you put on? I forgot to ask you. Like, from the time you left, did you weigh?
Speaker 2:something Probably about five kilos.
Speaker 1:That's not too bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not bad. Six pack by September, that's it. You heard it here. You heard it here. First, I ate Popeye's Chick-fil-A. I went to like these pizza reviews in New York and all that One of the highest rated pizza places and they were definitely okay. Like they were good, yeah, but like I reckon I've had a better pizza here, I've definitely had a better pizza in Italy 100% Okay, yeah, guaranteed, not even close and I've had better pizzas here, I reckon, yeah, I think for them.
Speaker 1:They don't know what they don't know, so to them that could be really the best pizza.
Speaker 2:It was nice, it wasn't bad, but it was just not what it's hyped up to be.
Speaker 1:Did you just do, margarita?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Or did you go something like that? I kind of rule.
Speaker 2:I follow the law. Letter of the law, that's it. But also, is it their thing about? Like, is this me again being conditioned to be australian and sit there like, yeah, I need to have my coffee this way, yeah, you know. And they're all like this is the best pizza ever. And then I'm like I go there with this expectation, like, fuck, you just said it's the best pizza. Yeah, you know, I mean, I would never say that about any pizza because I've suffered from tall puppy syndrome and I go there and then I'm like, oh, this is shit or it's not that good, is it that? That?
Speaker 1:Could be a level of that. For sure, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I definitely lost a lot of respect for Dave Portnoy. Did you how funny? Yeah, the food was shit dude, Like even the chicken sandwiches.
Speaker 1:I mean we went out and had some nice meals at some restaurants In-N-Out. That went great. I can't believe you didn't like In-N-Out Dude.
Speaker 2:I believe you didn't like In-N-Out Dude. If anyone's been to anyone listening to this right now, you've been to the US. You know how good In-N-Out is, man. You know how good have you had In-N-Out? I'll take you. In-n-out's a top tier. It's a top tier fast food burger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is fast food. Oh, it's definitely fast food Without got the worst fries in the world like my cardboard for a place that can deliver a good burger, they have the absolute worst fries you've ever had in your whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, but yeah, I didn't like the food that much, it was just very, just not good. And um, the tipping, the tipping really bothered me because at a point where I was getting upset, yeah, because like, not because you, not because you can't, oh, you're supposed to tip people and they like not because of that, but because it became an entitlement thing. Like you'd go to a Popeye's and you'd be like, can I get a chicken sandwich? And they're like anything else, and you'd be like no, and then like okay, and then they expect an 18% tip. And then you Like do you know what I mean? You're already getting paid to stand there and you have given me no tips, no service, you haven't helped me with the menu, you haven't made any recommendations, you've done nothing. Press buttons yeah, you asked me two questions and you want me to tip you for that. No, and then you don't tip them and then they will not look you in the eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they will like here and for those listening, like I just went to hand George something without looking him in the eye, but I just think that's, that's. It was disgusting, it's it's. They've. The culture has created a level of entitlement. Yeah, like you have to tip us, you must tip us. This is, you know what I mean, and it's like we really don't like really really don't have to.
Speaker 1:Well, they've changed the laws recently.
Speaker 2:They increased the minimum wage to reduce that tipping aspect of it as well, but they put off tips to 18 dude used to be 10 or 12. Now it's 18 minimum. On the. You know they give you three options like 18, 20 or 25, so the problem is that they get paid lower than minimum wage.
Speaker 1:That's like the american sounds like a them problem yeah, it's a them problem. Yeah, it's a them problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool, call Trump. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like not my fucking problem.
Speaker 1:It's like on, you use Uber, yeah, the brides, of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool, except for when I'm in the US. Shit, I use Lyft. Yeah, you use Lyft. Lyft is actually better in the US, by the way, yeah. I thought, it was good, yeah, there was no issues with it.
Speaker 1:It was cheap, it was good options. That's probably one thing that was reasonable, yeah, anyway, back to what we were saying. So Uber here, right, you know, when you do a ride and it says ask your driver If you do anything under a five star, it's asked well, why. It's like, what was the reason for that five star, for the four stars or the three stars? And then you have to go through this process and pick this, this, this. It's a job, it's a pain in the ass. I just tip five stars, but I don't think I've ever had exceptional service to warrant five-star review for Uber drivers.
Speaker 2:Half the time. I just give it to them.
Speaker 1:I don't do any review, just because it comes up the next time you do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You just skip yeah, fuck, sandeep, there you go, move on yeah, um, but anyway, I just thought that was interesting, how they make you justify why it was four.
Speaker 2:I think it's more three or two. Yeah, it could be, surely could be, I don't know. You reckon they're trying to get you to justify it. Yeah, I think they're trying to get feedback like oh, you didn't think it was five stars, tells me.
Speaker 1:But then part of me is like I don't want to. It's what this guy does for work. I'm not going to fucking shit on him just because he's-.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I just usually just don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, have your five stars. That's good, well done. So you're a big five star guy, aren't you? No, not at all. I just do itter of Uber what like a month ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just last week, no Uber was around for ages and I never used it. Never used it because there's a drive everywhere. Very rarely would I catch an Uber.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're confessing something here. What's the-?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know how recent. I can't tell you now, I don't know, but I know it was around for ages before I used it. Last five years stuff oh, probably less than that, less than that, yeah. So I mean, how long has Uber been around? For it was around for a while.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, I remember the first time I heard about Uber. I was working at Mercedes-Benz in 2014. And the lady was sitting outside and I said do you want me to call you a cab, because that's what we used to do? And she said, no, I'm going to catch an Uber. And I said what's that? And then she said you just look people driving past and you can find someone and hitch a ride with them and up for serial killers. That's really strange and it's like, yeah, people do it, they make extra money.
Speaker 2:and then my in my head, uber was this thing where it's like if I was going from albert park to nary warren, yeah, I could say hey, I'm going to albert park everyone, if anyone's hit you right with me, they can yeah, that's how and that was my thing of what uber was yeah, anyway learn from that. You do indeed um. So when did you get on it?
Speaker 1:I can't remember man.
Speaker 2:Come on, show me app, show me app.
Speaker 1:Probably in my email somewhere I might be able to figure it out.
Speaker 2:Well, like in your inbox now, yeah.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Uber.
Speaker 2:Thanks for signing up. Confess, when is it? When did you get onto Uber?
Speaker 1:What Pre-COVID Diddy pre-covid Diddy Diddy use Diddy D-I-D-I. Do you use that one? Not P Diddy. No, not him. Okay, I don't think he does rideshare anymore you can, okay, used to. I only got onto that last year, diddy. Who the fuck uses Diddy? Use it a couple times for what you use Diddy when you're in China? No, that's here too. It's cheaper than Uber as well. Well, not always. Sometimes. Sometimes, yeah, it's cheaper and it has a lot of deals. Yeah, they often have like specials and 25% off.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't even have the app on my phone. I reckon that's all right. It's pretty. Didi Name's Zuba Definitely don't have the Apple on my phone. Do it Sign it up. No, you're going to be a late adopter.
Speaker 1:It'll be expensive by then. Yeah, so overall it was a great trip. I'm glad I did it Towards the end, I was ready to come home as well. I reckon you were ready to leave before you go there. Nah, I don't think so. Huh, I don't think so. Huh, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:You don't reckon.
Speaker 1:No, it was probably sports. I can't remember when I first saw you.
Speaker 2:When did I first see you? I?
Speaker 1:don't know, it was in Vegas. Yeah, we got to Because I was there for ages. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You were there for like two weeks prior. When did I? Okay?
Speaker 1:I was when I was. So it's like there was a bit of a drainer with getting a whole bunch of phone calls and things happening and trying to coordinate a few things whilst being over there. So there was times where I had to step away, do a bit of work and send emails and all that sort of shit. I liked that the time zone was kind of opposite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it worked okay. Do you know what I mean? Like it was like you could wake up and nothing. There was no chaos, yeah.
Speaker 1:Up until about what is it? Yeah, 12, 2 pm, was that what it was?
Speaker 2:Something like that yeah, and then it's like okay, now everything starts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it goes to about, but I liked it 10. So, yeah, there was a few things like that which still need. There's still room that I need to put things in place so that it's not always coming back to me so that's good too, and again I've realized it's just. It's just the nature of where we're at with a couple of projects, need to get them finished and then that'll take a lot off my plate once those two particular couple projects are done um biggest takeaway from the homology workshop, apart from what's the experience? Yeah, like the actual experience.
Speaker 1:The content. It was just good to see oh okay, so we did this exercise. Where you value your business, you're going through and going okay, well, what's your business actually worth? It was interesting to see that, once we got through that his calculations of how he values a business and what it should be worth my business was worth $0 to be sold to someone if someone were to buy it. It was interesting to see that. I liked that because it shows you on the metrics that they had that they measured, which I'm sure are very applicable here too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if it's worth zero. Yeah, I think from his perspective.
Speaker 1:He probably does that on purpose, so that he can say let us show you how to make it worth a lot more.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's not worth. It could be worth a lot more, but it's like the key man risk is like a massive element that they turn around and say like we won't invest in something where there's key man risk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and rightly so. Rightly so, and that's with 95% of small businesses in Australia, key man risk.
Speaker 2:you'd say, yeah, it's a heap, it would be so common where it's dependent on one or a set of individuals driving the show and it being them, not the position. It's like, how do you, I think, them showing how you remove yourself? That's cool, yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah, I agree it was. You remove yourself was cool. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah, I agree it was cool, it was cool. I took some real practical stuff and said, okay, cool, that's what I liked. I need to do that, that's right. Yes, like cool, no fluff, no hype, just like a hey. These are the five things. These are the six things. You know what I mean. These are the six things you know. I mean this is what we look at. Do one thing in each one bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you'll move, so have you have, you put goals in place, now to implement I've already implemented.
Speaker 2:That's scott, ask him oh yes, how funny um, but yeah, I've already. Um, yeah, there's been things we've put into place. Uh, I'm now looking at hiring people. I wasn't intending on hiring prior because I want to implement strategies that we didn't do, because I'm like, okay, that could be the thing that propels us forward massively. Yeah, there's lots of.
Speaker 1:I guess elements Touching back on something you said before about you know you want to get to a position where you're making people, where you know that unknown is scary. Do you think people should be especially in business? Do you think they should be doing looking for those?
Speaker 2:It's up to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't have to you, don't have to no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why I think we had this discussion leaving acquisitioncom on day three, and it's like you don't have to, there is nothing to say, you must yeah.
Speaker 1:He was saying that actually in a podcast. I was listening to Alex. He goes you could be very happy getting to a million dollars. Yeah, and that's where you want to stay. I am here, he goes. Well done, you won, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You win If you are happy with that dude and you could be happy making 100 grand a year, yeah, you win. Gary Vee was big on that as well, he still is, yeah. He's like I've got friends who finish at 4 pm, Go coach Little League. Yeah, they coach Little League and they go to soccer Sundays and they're happy as hell and they've won because I'm not doing better than them, like they love what they're doing, like I'm not better than them and I think that's a very good perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just comes down to what you want.
Speaker 1:I find that people do want more, though. Do you reckon that could be a societal pressure?
Speaker 2:Yes, everyone wants more dude, but are you willing to? There's a with more comes more risk, more. You know what I mean. More down, more like. Are you willing? Do you want more of that as well? Yeah, cause you want more, you get more of everything.
Speaker 3:You know, you just get a little bit of yeah, Do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean. And it's like how much do you want more? Cause there's a certain point where it becomes like a fuck, where you were like oh, I was watching a video I can't remember, Everything's morphed into one but someone was saying something along the lines of like, when you make making, the sweet point is like 400K or something, and it's like when you get to a million plus, like, your problems are so big that it's almost not worth the money you're making, or something along those lines. I don't think we spoke about that last night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't remember who had said it might have been in a book. Yeah, um, but yeah, it's a, it's a awareness thing yeah, well it's a what do you want thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is, it's a what do you want to do what do you actually want? What's your result like? What are you trying? What's the result you're after here?
Speaker 2:yeah, and it's like, what do you want to? Because it's like if this whole thing, this, this life, it's gonna, yeah, and it's like, what do you want to Cause? It's like if this whole thing, this, this life, it's going to pass, it's fuck, it's going to go, dude, that's quick. And the next thing you know, you know what I mean You're going to be a year older and a year older, and then you're going to be in a new decade of your life. You know what I mean. You know you're really old and you're 40 and Does it again, does it again, it's done.
Speaker 1:Well, I want more. I want more. And do you know what else? Do you know what I really want? More of what Subscribers? I want a lot more subscribers to this channel.
Speaker 2:I'm with you, I'm willing to take on the pain to get those more subscribers.
Speaker 1:Whatever it takes, I like it. We're willing to do what it takes. All you have to do is press the red button and then you get registered to subscribe to every single thing that we come and say at this podcast.
Speaker 2:You reckon people can't find the red button?
Speaker 1:Look surely not. It's red. How could they miss it?
Speaker 2:You're right. How could they miss it? Silly question.
Speaker 1:It is silly, that's all right. It's your first podcast, first podcast. No, look in, that's alright. It's your first podcast, first podcast. Nah, look in all honesty, it's like we get a lot of people listening, but not necessarily subscribed, and it helps us grow the channel. It helps us provide more value across all the platforms, not just, you know, spotify or Apple Apple podcast, but on YouTube, on social media, instagram, LinkedIn, youtube, on social media Instagram, linkedin, wherever.
Speaker 2:And if you do, I'll try and make this into a clip. Hopefully the team captures this. If you see something that you want us to talk about on this podcast, there's a link in all the descriptions of the full episodes. It's called Ask Us a Question and you can ask us a question or tell us a topic you want us to discuss.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and that'd be really cool. That'd be cool to see what some people want to hear and be educated on, because I think we're at a point in our lives where we've got a really good level of experience. I really feel that people can come to me and I can give them really good advice, and my wife said this to me a while ago at an event she goes someone asked me a question and she goes what the fuck? How did you know the answer to that? I'm like I've done the reps, I go. I know the answer because I know the answer. It's what you need to do. We've gone through it, or I've been educated in that space. I know what needs to be done and you know how to think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, I didn't know what the question was going to be. Dude, I am so confident in my ability to think things through that I'm like throw anything at me, yeah, like, and I'll, let's work it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah and you know what I'm also humble enough to say I don't actually know the answer to that question yeah but if you can explain that properly, that's you still sound intelligent yeah, you know, because if you can, turn around and explain it properly, and but I think there is a level of intelligence when it comes to that too. I agree, yeah, it's not you're educated, you have been-. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, I didn't mean sound intelligent as in for the audience. Yeah, I meant it will come across.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah, excellent. Well, another episode down. 77, that's awesome. 78, it's like a year and a half, isn't it? Something like that? 70 something, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool to think that we've been going consistently and, um, we have our own neon sign and hats and merch, and it's enjoyable. And listeners and listeners. Thank you so much. Look honestly, if you're listening to this, we really appreciate you spending the time, you know, spending an hour with us having a eavesdropping. It's kind of like the eavesdropping on our conversation, isn't it? We should add segments, segments, as in, come in at this point and we'll be talking about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a-, so they can skip forward or skip back Like a thing, like you know I can't explain it, you don't really see those things, but it's like George gets mad. And then it's like, oh, watch George gets mad. And then you're like this week I've seen, and you crack the shits.
Speaker 1:Well, now I'm going to have to put that segment in all the time you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my rant. George gets angry.
Speaker 1:Not angry about anything this week? Agree about anything this week? No, that's great, awesome. Thank you so much for tuning in, guys. Hope you have a million dollar day and we look forward to seeing you next time. Bye, everybody.
