Million Dollar Days
Welcome to Million Dollar Days with Robby Choucair & George Passas. Your go-to podcast for a deep dive into the world of Life and Business Mastery.
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Million Dollar Days
The Australian Election: Who You Should Really Vote For and Why
Political apathy runs deep in Australia, but why? This no-holds-barred conversation dives into the heart of civic disengagement, exploring why so many Australians feel their votes and political participation make absolutely no difference to their daily lives.
"I don't feel like your vote will make a difference," one host confesses, having never registered or voted. "I'm watching from afar and facing the other way." This raw admission opens a fascinating exploration of Australia's unique relationship with politics – a country where citizens follow rules diligently yet feel fundamentally disconnected from their democratic process.
The hosts contrast Australia's political landscape with America's, noting how they've watched US elections with intense interest despite having no stake in the outcome. Meanwhile, many couldn't name their own Prime Minister or explain basic policies affecting their businesses and lives. This paradox reveals how politics has transformed from civic responsibility into entertainment, with personality and spectacle overshadowing substance.
Most striking is the discussion of what might actually drive Australia's political awakening. While extreme measures like conscription might bring people to the streets, the everyday exploitation – outdated taxes originally implemented to fund long-concluded wars, toll roads paid off seventeen times over, unnecessary regulations stifling business growth – continues unchallenged. "People forget the government works for us," they observe. "I feel in this country, it's the other way around."
The conversation concludes with a compelling thought experiment: what if someone who actually cared about practical solutions took charge? What if leadership meant identifying "what's fucking stupid" and simply eliminating it? Subscribe now to join this refreshingly honest conversation about democracy's future in a nation where following the rules has become more important than questioning them.
Knowing you well and knowing how passionate you are about this country and the future that it's heading in, please tell me in depth your political views. That's a great question. I think he's doing good stuff. He's actually getting in there and getting shit done, as opposed to everyone else that's so scared to lose votes. He doesn't give a fuck. We've got someone that knows what they're doing Outside of looking in. I think he's great. The other thing I also noticed as well is people in australia probably victoria more so. They'd love to be told what to do australia needs to break free from the corrupt.
Speaker 1:If enough people stood up for a certain cause or position, I think they have influence. Knowing you well and knowing how passionate you are about this country and the future that it's heading in, please tell me in depth your political views.
Speaker 2:It's a great question.
Speaker 1:As a US citizen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm all for Trump. Pledged Red all the way. I think we've got to get rid of these Mexicans, Dude. Let me tell you, in the US, the political landscape is very divided.
Speaker 1:See, most people we spoke to when I asked they're like hey, what do you reckon about Trump? Most people weren't that I hate that guy or I love that guy, even though I'm sure there is a lot of them. But most of the people I spoke to Get in a Mexican Uber.
Speaker 2:Get in a Mexican Uber. Yeah, I'm serious, when you're in San Diego, they're like man. That guy's got no idea what he's doing. He's deporting people, he's sending families, splitting families up, blah, blah, blah. And there's people that hated him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And there was people that were like, finally, yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:We got someone that knows what they're doing Outside of looking in.
Speaker 2:I think he's great, I think he's doing MAGA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. Maga, yeah 100%. I would have voted for him if I was there, for sure, and I said that to people too. I said, looking at what he's doing, I think he's great, I think he's doing good stuff. He's actually getting in there and getting shit done, as opposed to everyone else that's so scared to lose votes. He doesn't give a fuck. Don't vote for me, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Plastic straws are fucking sick dude oh man, plastic straws are so good. You know what that was my favorite thing about? Without a doubt, the plastic straws. You know, when you now go we're living in the past Get a paper straw. You're just like what is this absurdity? I refuse to use it. What are we bums?
Speaker 1:I refuse to use it. Yeah, I'm serious. I don't use straws anymore. I pull the lid off and just drink it without. Oh, it's the worst dude.
Speaker 2:So bad and it's like why can't we do that? Yeah, why can't whoever's the president, the dictator of power at time? To go back to your question, I do not. I don't know. You don't know what was the question what's your political views? I don't know how to answer that. Do you care? No, do you care no?
Speaker 1:Do you? Yeah, but I don't care enough to go to a rally.
Speaker 2:I don't vote. What do you do? I'm never registered.
Speaker 1:Shit.
Speaker 2:Call the cops, call them, call the LAPD. Tell them, yeah, tell them Seriously, I've never registered, I've never voted, not once, and I don't care because I don't feel like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like your vote will make a difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just don't. I feel like they're. All my life has not changed, no matter who got in power. I can change this for me. Yeah, I mean, it's all the same way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean and I don't care and it doesn't interest me and I don't follow you on Instagram and I consume no television or radio, so I get zero information from it. I don't know who the prime minister is. I don't know what his first name is Joshua, shut up. What's his first name? Anthony Anthony Albanese. Yeah, I knew that part. Yeah, because it sounds like Lebanese.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:That's the only way to remember things. Yeah, it's like. What country does it sound like?
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. Yeah, nothing's easy with Albanese, or it's all easy with Albanese? Yeah, Depending on your political view. So do you think that's a problem? Do you think if everyone thought your way, that would be good for this country? Because we're coming, we're into the election campaign now. Oh, is it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's bloody presidents kissing babies and everything. Isn't that that's? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. If I was in, sorry when I'm premier and then eventually prime minister, as we are all going to go for and you're all going to vote for me, you know it. Everyone on this podcast will. That is subscribed.
Speaker 2:It's like a Premier's, like right hand guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What's that called? Two I see how did I Like the. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, is there a? Thing?
Speaker 2:The deputy. Is that what it is? I don't know. I'm gonna be the deputy. The deputy, it's gonna be sick and you're gonna be my only option we'll get our own version of doge here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, do you think that's a bad thing? Oh, sorry. So when I'm prime minister and dictator and all that sort of shit and I'm running the country doing my thing, I don't know what's going on with that. Now you distracted me with your-.
Speaker 2:You were saying that I felt like I was telling you about kissing babies and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's like the very first thing. I would never. I would never, ever be that guy that holds babies and like don't touch. Hey, I've got my own kids. You touch your own kid, mate, don't worry about it, I don't need to hold your baby I don't need to take a photo with it. I'd be very straight down the line.
Speaker 2:I'd be.
Speaker 1:Trump-esque. No, relax, I'm not going to boot it out the window. I'd be very Trump-esque as far as my approach to things Because, again, I think it's just practical just not giving a shit. I think it'll upset, but I also think it'll resonate with a lot of people too. Polarization set, but I also think it will resonate with a lot of people too. Yeah, I think polarization is yeah and I think that's exactly right, and you see that now with some of the politics that are coming up and what they're doing. But ultimately, I feel that in this country there is you got your two parties, labor and Liberal, and you're just picking the bad of a, the best of a bad bunch. That's where I feel like it's at in this country, and it's a shame because we deserve better. The other thing I also noticed as well is people in Australia probably Victoria more so. They'd love to be told what to do.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're a rule-following people.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Australia needs to break free from the Commonwealth yeah, maybe that's what it could be, I mean and create its own independence, just like the US did, would you?
Speaker 1:get more. Would you show more interest in politics then?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Why? I just I don't know what if there was a Trump version here and you like, love the bloke?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's weird, though I was so into the US election. Yes, you said that, that's right.
Speaker 1:So that's not even your country. Was that more entertainment, though, for you?
Speaker 2:Oh, probably yeah that's right, I was watching Trump interviews. I was watching them, dude. I watched trump on joe rogan. I watched him on the flagman podcast. I watched him on theo von's podcast. Yeah, it's a serious investment of ours, huge, huge, like I was watching it all.
Speaker 1:So why don't you let it up? Why don't you have that level of interest in your own country, where? You could get things they are yeah and it's a shame, because that's what we need in this country.
Speaker 2:We don't really have independence. No, like you've got independence within these lines yes, If you fuck around and step out these lines. We're going to press against you Everything like from the ATO to from taxes and the rules you have to follow and the things you have to do and blah, blah, blah, and it's like I've never been, like a conspiracy theorist and so I don't want to give them my. You know, I'm like dude, like I'm just a pleb, I'm just another number to them at the end of the day, like if I do or don't, their life doesn't change.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I like, though the one thing I really like and resonate with what you said earlier, is regardless of your power, I don't give a fuck like I'm gonna get done what I need to do, whoever was in power, doesn't affect me.
Speaker 2:like it is what it is, I'm just gonna roll with the punches who I don't know and this might be valid for someone who's like a multi-millionaire, billionaire or something, but whose life changed from the last election look it, what it would do is certain policies may affect you, from a tax perspective, for sure, and how you operate in business and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1:So for me, let's say, being in construction, that whenever the Labor government is in, the unions tend to have a bit more power during that time and whatnot, whereas when the Liberals are in, they sort of put them on a leash a little bit more. So, arguably, it would help me in my industry more so. So you could say stuff like that, but I'm in residential construction too. That doesn't affect me too much anyway. Has your job changed? As in what I do day to day, no.
Speaker 2:Has anything changed at all?
Speaker 1:Not at all. In the sense, all that might've changed is the in-goings and out-goings. Yeah, but that changes all the time.
Speaker 2:I know Someone can wake up in a different mood and then you might get a different response because of how they woke up, because of how they slept, because of what they ate the night before. Yeah, no one cares about that. I just don't see and this could be my ignorance- it might be a level of it, yeah, but I just don't see.
Speaker 1:Because if everyone thought that way, hey, if everyone thought that way and this is probably why, because I honestly think a lot of people feel like you do we should put a vote up. It'd be interesting to see. It'd be interesting to see. I wanted to put a poll up. Maybe I'll put it up tonight. To put a poll up. Maybe I'll put it up tonight. Do you actually care about the current political landscape? Do you care who wins, who gets into power, yes or no? It'd be interesting to see.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've been a Liberal voter for the longest time, purely because of the union. That did influence me early days when I was working on big tier one construction sites. Yes, it did influence me back then, but even more so as a business owner. I feel that their policies tend to favor more small businesses as opposed to labor, tends to favor the masses and the everyday Australian working and whatnot, and puts more pressure on us. I tend to go that way, but I still feel that they're fucking shit. Do you know what I mean? I'm picking the best of a bad bunch. I don't feel compelled to go and I've never gone to a political rally. Peter Dutton is the leader of the Liberal Party. We've got Albanese on the other side. I'm not going to go to see Peter Dutton at fucking Port Phillip Town Hall. Kiss a baby.
Speaker 2:Is that where they do it?
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, I'm sure they'll bring a baby there and wave my blue flag and say, yeah, go, pete, you're the man. Are you a blue guy? Blue guy, here we're blue. Who's blue, who's we? The right is blue here. What's Trump? Trump's right, isn't he? Right wing, yeah. So here we're blue. The right wing is blue, yeah, the conservatives, whatever that is. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like the people who are more reserved, who are like God is good and men should have wives and yes, yeah, yes, that way more inclined, yeah, so, but why wouldn't I?
Speaker 1:This should affect me, it should be important enough for me to do that, but does it? No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2:That's why you're doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Exactly, but it should, if you're looking at democracy.
Speaker 2:Are they really in control?
Speaker 1:Who these people? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1:They could be bought out by all these Like this is all the other things you see. Now, are they just owned by all the multi-trillion dollar companies that fund all their campaigns and say, hey, we're going to come in here and mine all this gas and it's not going to cost us anything? Yeah, they're like, oh, you can't do that? Well, actually we can, because here's a picture of your son at school. I don't know who knows what happens in that world? You what happens in that world. Who knows Trillion dollar companies coming in doing whatever the fuck they want?
Speaker 1:Yes, there's all that talk of what's happening with that. But my point in case is democracy. Here, people forget that the government works for us. The government should, in an ideal world, be there to serve the people. I feel that in this country it's the other way around. I feel that we serve the government, whoever's in power at that time. Yes, sir, thank you, sir COVID, point in case. Whatever they said, we did. You hated it, you loved it. Whatever it was, you did it. Most of the time, people would do it. They could do something else. Now, say they come out and say, oh, we're going to slug you with income tax now on. Well, we're going to reduce income tax to $500,000 instead of a million, so anyone that pays more than that gets slugged with a tax. How do you stop that? No, I disagree.
Speaker 2:You don't. You say these are the rules here, and you pick up your shit and you move somewhere else.
Speaker 1:If you don't want to have the rules, that's the other thing. Yes, that's right, you can move. You can move country. You don't fucking try. That's right. You can move country. You can move state. You can do those things that is available to you. Yes, unlikely for a lot of people that becomes a problem, like, honestly, I don't want to move.
Speaker 2:Why. I'm happy where I am, but then obviously this is disrupted, like let's just say what would be okay, what would be the thing that they would have to introduce that would make you say like this is annoying me.
Speaker 1:I want to say some bad shit, but I'm not going to. Okay, so Don't encourage me, I'll go on current affair. It's the goal. It's the goal, let's do it. I'd say anything along the lines of influencing my children in a way that does please me significantly. I could still have the majority of the influence, say, if they made it mandatory educational to do something that I really disagreed with.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's part of the curriculum. Now Pull them out of school. Fuck yeah, we're homeschooling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not that much, sorry, you can fix that. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:So that's not. Yeah, you're right. I don't know man Conscription, I don't know Doing something stupid that really, really affects me in a negative way. So your option is this Okay, cool, I'm a first generation Greek. I'm now getting my passport. I'm going to be a Greek citizen from this point on. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:That's what you do Far too. You go to Greece. It's all right, come to.
Speaker 1:Greece, good life. I would just become a fisherman, just live off the land. It's interesting, got plenty of family over there Can speak the language. What?
Speaker 2:a life. You can also speak English.
Speaker 1:What a life. You can also speak Ling. I could speak Linglish. I could speak English and Greek over there. What a life, Um yeah, that's interesting. I, I'd um, I wouldn't have thought you would have said that, but where else? Okay, well, go to the States. Yeah, go to the States. You're saying go into another English speaking country. Me personally, that's what I would do, but I, yeah.
Speaker 2:I would, I in all honesty.
Speaker 1:I had to move countries, and if I had language there too? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that like I'm a fit yeah.
Speaker 1:But I and just a side note, speaking of travel around the world Robbie got stopped at every airport we went to and it was the funniest thing and I wanted to Did every single.
Speaker 1:I wanted to take photos, Went to the ice hockey they pulled him aside. They pulled him aside at every moment. It was the funniest thing. It was almost as funny as half the shit Scott did Almost, Almost. But honestly, you got pulled over everywhere and like I'd see you, you'd get in strip search. Like what are you doing in this country? Like relax.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got pulled into Homeland Security.
Speaker 1:When was the last time you went to Lebanon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I've never been to Lebanon. I sat down and interviewed by Homeland Security when I landed in the US. That's so good. They were very nice, very nice, good on them. But look, hey, hey, if I look like I'm going to blow shit up and you're doing your job, well done, fucking nice, good job. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Wrong guy, but good job. His jacket was puffy because you put on a few more culottes Eating some pizza, yeah, and eating some pizza. It's not anything under the jacket that would be untoward in America. God bless that amazing place.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, because you see people in the States like people love Trump, like no president has ever been hated more than Trump in history. No president has ever been loved more than Trump in history. What's the source of that? What's the source?
Speaker 2:I heard it somewhere, I don't know where, but I heard it somewhere and I believe it, though.
Speaker 1:People love him and there's people that fucking hate him. Now you almost got assassinated. Is that true? Is that not true? I don't know. There's probably a button you press.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like hey press the button about Trump, like hey, guys press the button about Trump.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Trump button, but we don't have that here. I mean, you do see people going to these rallies and waving their flags.
Speaker 2:I've never seen a rally.
Speaker 1:I've seen it on the news, like you see it on the news when they win the election. It's probably the team and you know there's probably a lot of the team, their family members, people like that. So I don't even know. I don't even know Australian people, sorry, I don't know anyone that has gone to a rally ever to go see their prime minister.
Speaker 2:Who was the prime minister before this guy?
Speaker 1:The one that's here now. You got.
Speaker 2:See, you don't care.
Speaker 1:It wasn't Turnbull.
Speaker 2:You don't care, Maybe it was Turnbull Turnbull. Yeah, Malcolm Turnbull Wasn't ScoMo oh no, it was ScoMo.
Speaker 1:It was, it was 100% ScoMo.
Speaker 2:I'm an Australian politician enthusiast.
Speaker 1:Yes, you are you are.
Speaker 2:Scomo was all right. He used to do his cooks in COVID. Oh did he? How funny Dude. You know what yeah?
Speaker 1:He seems like a genuine blo. Come on, no, come on, man, come on. Have you met him? Yeah, I've met him. Oh, you've met him. No, never, never. But I've seen enough. I've seen enough. But I'm sure they're actually half-decent blokes and they're doing the best they can. I don't know, are, are they not? Don't know, don't know, but I don't see anyone making significant moves in anything. Like you know, anthony Albanese has been in power now for four years already. Like, what's he done? He's done nothing. Like he's just sat there, and that's probably his biggest criticism. People look at him and say, well, you haven't actually done anything. Yeah, you haven't actually done anything. At least Trump's gone in. He's put tariffs in. He's gotten rid of Well, go buy six draws. Well, life-changing shit. Yeah, yeah, it's the real deal. He's gone in there and done that stuff. He's gotten rid of a whole range of policies. He's implemented Doge and gotten rid of all this useless government spending that they're that were just throwing money out the window.
Speaker 2:So how much hate has Elon Musk gotten because of that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's massive, massive. It's probably not good for his business and his brand, but also, I don't think he gives a fuck. Do you know what I mean? Like he doesn't give a fuck, give a fuck, couldn't care less. He's going. I'm going to go to Mars, I'm going to die in Mars. You guys will be right.
Speaker 2:Yeah but his brand is so big now, yeah, do you know what I mean? Like, unless he loses his marbles, there will always be someone to be like. Hey, man, like you know what I mean, we'll give you a hundred mil come work for us. Yeah, that's it do you know what I mean? Like he would never go broke. He would never, unless he loses his marbles, which is possible, could happen.
Speaker 1:You never know, maybe he already has strange fella, maybe to be in that level. I think, he's a little bit crazy I think you have to be.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's anyone who's staying a little bit crazy. That's where creativity comes from, doesn't it? The crazy side? The crazy side Doing shit that no one else will ever dare think of doing, and it's crazy until you pull it off, isn't it? People once upon a time said man will fly is pretty crazy, pull on. I am amazed still when you get in a plane, this fucking thing that weighs hundreds of tons, flying through the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That ridiculous speed. It's like a tube in the middle of the air Getting there. You say does it ever be in the back of your mind when we're flying just recently, what happens? This thing goes down. Hold on yeah.
Speaker 2:The whole time Back of your mind. It was nice to the plane shakes a little bit. You go, you'll be right. Come on, buddy, keep going. And it was nice to see, like when we were back on top of land. Yeah, like at least now, if we go down, hopefully we survive. We blow up.
Speaker 1:We blow up and not drown.
Speaker 2:So that's good. Dude getting lost in the Pacific Ocean yeah, you're fucked.
Speaker 1:You go yeah, yeah look out the window.
Speaker 2:It's just fucking waves and dolphins and shit like that. That'd be bad. That's what you're just. Waves and dolphins like that sounds very happy. You look out waves, dolphins in the way.
Speaker 1:Well it's good way to fucking beam it. That's a good way to go um so yeah, uh, but it's a shame, you know, but I like the aspect of well, it is what it is. I'm just going to roll with the punches, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. I'm control. Good bad, I'll adapt, make it happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's not what it is. What is it For me? Like that's not, because like the US thing doesn't impact me at all.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But I watched it tightly, like very closely. I watched the election. I remember you telling me yeah, I watched it. I was sitting there watching the election, had it on my third screen at my house when I was working, because during the day, yeah, I had it on my third screen. I was playing the whole time while I was doing a whole bunch of stuff. I'd mute it between calls. Yeah, I don't know why I was into it, no idea. Never watched a previous one, ever, ever, ever. But I always seem to know more about what's going on there. It could be because of entertainment, or like more people talk about it. Possibly, yeah, but I don't think it's gonna. Regardless of who gets in it, it's not going to impact my life. Yeah, is that a stupid thought?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think it's stupid in the sense that if everyone thinks that way, you'll never get any significant change for the best. You'll just be the people that have the deepest pockets, that have the most influence, that always get into power and have their own agenda the whole time.
Speaker 2:There's a small part of me that kind of believes that's. I don't think we have influence here From every aspect.
Speaker 1:If enough people stood up for a certain cause or position, I think they have influence.
Speaker 2:You reckon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in.
Speaker 2:Australia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's just say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 2:What's that, say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 1:What's that when you're forced to sign up to the army to go to war Conscription? Yeah, okay, I think that would cause in this country so the draft.
Speaker 2:Draft yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Australia's going to go battle China? I don't think we'll battle China. We like China. We're going to go battle. Who don't we like? Do we not like anyone? We like everyone. We're very multicultural. Here. I feel like China gets picked on China. I like China. I like China too.
Speaker 2:If you're watching this from China we're friends, we've got your back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're welcome on Million Dollar Days Mongolia, mongolia, mongolia. Of course, mongolia is our arch nemesis. Yeah, say we go to war with Mongolia. Yeah, and they go. Oi, such a good country to go to war with, isn't it? But they say like everyone, we have to like, we need everyone.
Speaker 2:Like in two months, two months.
Speaker 1:Two months. Stop what you're doing. You've been conscripted.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think there would be uproar. I don't think people would go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think people would go anywhere.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think we've been. We haven't been conditioned from any age or anything to ever be forced to serve and go to war.
Speaker 2:Here's a gun.
Speaker 1:We're gun, we're going to go kill people.
Speaker 2:I'm just giving an extreme example of something that I think people would go.
Speaker 1:No, and you would run the streets. If you fast forward 10 years and my son's 20 and they conscript him, I'll kill you. When you come to the door to come get my son, it's not happening. He's a grown-ass man but you're're 18. Or he's 17 and he gets conscripted, or I get conscripted and I have to leave my family to go fight a war for some other political agenda you're not.
Speaker 2:You have zero patriotism zero, yeah, yeah yeah, absolutely yeah, and I think most people in this country we know we're not a very patriotic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yes yes, we're not.
Speaker 2:They wanted to change Australia Day. It's like it's the country's day. Yeah, like, why would you change it? Because people are getting offended? Leave, go away. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, go away, you don't have to be here. You're not a tree. Fuck off Like gay. We are. Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, we are.
Speaker 1:So you're saying from a, a perspective of pc.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude massively. I hate that. I personally hate that massively. Uh rule following. Uh, everyone doesn't like you know what I mean, dude. Not much comes out of australia like this is a very safe country to live in.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's also a very country that will, I believe, and this is a very safe country to live in. Yeah, it's also a very country that will, I believe, and this could get some hate, but I believe this is a country that will hold you down in the sense of, like you can live a real comfortable life here, but don't go do some big shit. Sit down, I mean we're all trying to be comfortable here, that's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't do anything out of the norm. Yeah, don't go, go outside the lines. Buy a house, dude. That's come on. Why is everyone? What's the Australian dream? Buy a house.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Family home, blah, blah, blah. It's like it's all conditioned into us and the whole tall poppy thing. Yeah, Like going to the US has really opened my eyes up to that massively. Yeah, I agree, and I think it all falls in line with not having any interest in the political Like. I don't know anyone who's ridiculously passionate about Australian politics Not one.
Speaker 1:I don't know anyone, but not to say they don't exist. They probably don't exist.
Speaker 2:If you exist, nah, I'm sure they don't exist. They're just not interesting people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, take that. But yeah, I was just giving a random example as to something that people would rally behind. I think there are things in extremities that people would go, and I probably would too. In all honesty, If it was something that extreme that affected my life directly in a negative way, I would go and rally. I would throw bottles at parliament.
Speaker 2:Political parties and the way they do things. They're not stupid. Yes, correct, they bring things in slowly. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it, it'll be.
Speaker 2:Or they take it so far that they get pushed back. And then, all of a sudden, you weren't happy with like, let's just say, if you're doing zero to 10, they'll go 10. At first you would have been like I don't want five. Yeah, like, all right, five, five, five. You know what I mean? I'm not letting you have 10, fuck that. And then you get five in. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah, without a doubt, without a doubt, I do think there's some smart minds behind everything and the manipulation behind it and the power behind it.
Speaker 2:I think it's a science, dude. I think there is a yeah, without a doubt. How do we Without a yeah, there has to be. We do events. There is a level of science into controlling the room you know what I mean Seating, positioning, et cetera, like there's a level of science to that. You don't think there's a level of science to controlling a country. Yep, they're just fucking rolling the dice. So now, hopefully, everyone obliges to what we say and you know what I mean complies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:They do it. They do it. They know what they're doing and fair enough, you've got to do it, otherwise everyone will be crazy. That's why there's a little bit more. You know what I didn't see in the US? You know how everyone says crazy guns and blah, blah blah. I saw nothing, unsafe, nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I never felt unsafe at any moment that I was there. And again, granted, I was. I didn't see a gun. Yeah, I didn't see anyone um holding a gun or anything like that. Is that where? Oh you went? You went to actually multiple places. You were in Texas, dude, I was in Texas.
Speaker 2:I was walking around saying, yo, nothing happened. People tell you a nice hat Texas. I think the barber did the. What Went to the barber there? Oh did you, Good barber.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Nice guy. He has to tip the barber and he's like, if I'm tipping you, what the fuck is the service paying for?
Speaker 1:It's upsetting. You're still upset. It's been 10 days. It's been 10 days. We went to dinner last night. Did you tip? Last night? Did you pay?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't tip, I said thanks.
Speaker 1:Thanks, here's your tip Be good to your mother A good knowledge.
Speaker 2:Be good to your mother. No, I didn't think the service was amazing. The food was great. If I tip them, they're not going to give the food to the chef. That food was great. Food was great.
Speaker 1:If I tip them, they're not going to give the food to money to the chef. That food was phenomenal. Dude, that was great food To Meat and Wine Co Shout out. Meat and Wine Co that was probably the best Meat and Wine Co.
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Speaker 2:But yeah, look, long story short, fuck Australian politics. I don't care. I don't think it makes a difference in my life. I don't think if I'd had paid attention I'd be any better off. I think it'd be a waste of my time. I think they all talk, talk and they don't walk the walk. And I'm a US citizen now, so what's the?
Speaker 1:so should everyone take that standpoint.
Speaker 2:I think they're on. I'm not you.
Speaker 1:I would say they did theoretically. Let's just say they theoretically took that standpoint. Fuck a show on pause, we don't give a shit. Someone just do something. Whatever, We'll sort it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you think what would happen?
Speaker 1:I think just eventually it would get worse and worse and worse, and then it would just become almost like a dictatorship. It's forever going to be Liberal or Labour, it's going to be one of those two parties that come in. They'd probably just conspire with each other and just go hey guys, let's just have you heard that theory, you do it this year, you do it next year, we'll get something sorted, it's one party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could very well be, and it's like we're just looking at it. It's like it's the illusion of an option. Man, it could 100% be that. Do you know what I mean? It's like it's the illusion of an option. I don't know if it's, I'm not big on, surprise me, man.
Speaker 1:It wouldn. But I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise if that came out.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be just like so blown away with the concept and the idea.
Speaker 1:But you know, just in this, current landscape.
Speaker 2:It would be hard done, bob, I would, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd be like dogs. Someone's going to dob you in, who cares? Call the cops.
Speaker 2:Call for I don't give a damn, I don't you get paid the fine. Well, fine, you gotta find me yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't exist yeah, you gotta find me, um, who cares like? And if someone goes out of their way to do this to find me, and you know, register me register you.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna register you, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2:My name's Robert Chiguer, just hit a vote nah, if you, if you do go out of your way to do that, I want you to know that I will find you and I will kill you. Yeah, I have zero interest, dude. I can't I don't know Sell it to me.
Speaker 1:I can't Because, because I can't, I don't believe that passionately in it, I will still vote and I will vote liberal again.
Speaker 2:What would make?
Speaker 1:you vote for the other party If I knew some more of their policies that I thought would be beneficial for me in business. That's all and life.
Speaker 2:And you think this other dude's Trump-esque? Yeah, he is Just from some of his policies that he's trying to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's a strategic position that he's taking because he's seen it's worked over there. I still don't think he's, as he's definitely not as extreme, like he had a couple of little policies there that he was saying he's not going to showcase the Australian flag with the Aboriginal flag whenever they address the nation or the world, cause at the moment they have both flags. He goes we are one country, we should be under one country, under one flag. It's not. We're the only country in the world that does that, where we have the two side by side. And he goes I just want to get rid of it. I'm going to get rid of that. He's saying it from a point of unity, not from a point of isolating a certain group of people. He goes that's not to say there's any less significance behind the Aboriginal flag. He goes we're just Australian. We are not just we are Australian. So you know I resonate with ideas and policies like that.
Speaker 2:You sound like you really like him.
Speaker 1:He's my fan. He's going to get you on the podcast. Call him, I will. Pistol Pete. Get ready. Pistol Pete, that's what we call each other, that's what I call him, because we're on that basis, and he calls you Top George, top George and Pistol Pete.
Speaker 2:What an episode that'll be. That could be um. I feel like I have to sit out.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean well you just convinced me why I should, and what a great, what a great fucking question to ask, uh, the leader of the country you know if I, if I had the position, you know what?
Speaker 2:someone tag him. Someone tag him in this post.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, what a great. What a great question. I would love to get peter dudden and anthony albanese in a room to a debate. No, not, no, not even the fuck's a debate, because they're just going to sit opposite each other and they're just going to say oh well, you want to do this and I'm going to do this. Oh, you don't look after Australians. He doesn't get like shut the fuck up, do they do debates? Yeah, they do political debate yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am so I know they do it in the US.
Speaker 1:No, they do one here they do one here. I've never watched one. Never watched one. I think I might have flicked the channel by accident and saw them once upon a time, but I've never watched one. I would like to watch that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's something that will spark your interest, but I would love to ask him a question and say why should I care and why should I vote? And don't answer that you're going to give to the masses. Tell me why I should take an interest in politics and why I need to be voting for you or voting for the other bloke. Okay, forget even the voting at the moment. Why should I care? Why should I care who whether you win or albanese wins, or vice versa? Why should I give a shit? Because the harsh reality is most of the population doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, I think. I think they're just there. They either do a donkey vote where they just scribble, they just mark their name off and just do whatever, or they'll vote for the Australian sex party because they think it's funny. Is that a thing? It is a thing. There's a party called the Australian sex party and they get increased votes every time because people are like man, let's just get them in. Who gives a shit?
Speaker 1:The Greens now these hippies coming in protecting trees and shit like that. They get lots of votes now.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It doesn't seem like anyone's life gets any impact.
Speaker 1:America's changing Massively and they're changing the world.
Speaker 2:Can I just?
Speaker 1:say before we go on? I just said a throwaway comment the greens that love trees and the hippies.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That goes to show how much I know about them. It goes to show how ignorant I am. On that. There is no incentive, there is nothing there for us to go out there and learn and be committed and be passionate about this. You sound passionate, I'm passionate that there's no passion.
Speaker 2:That's a tongue twister there for you. It is yeah. So long story short. I'm leaving Australia, I'm going to the US to become a politician.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I'm going to be premier of Victoria. Yeah, vote for me. Vote one Top George George is going to be premier of Victoria. Yeah, vote for me. Vote one top George George is going to be Premier of Victoria. And then we'll do deals.
Speaker 2:Would you really do it?
Speaker 1:I mean, if I could make some significant change, what would be Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2:What would you do Like? Why? Okay, let's fast forward six months.
Speaker 1:Ah, yes.
Speaker 2:Six months. That's all. It took Six months and now you're running for Premier. Why? Thanks George, thanks for joining me today. Why should the country?
Speaker 1:the state, the country will get involved too, because I love it. They'll be like oh, this guy why?
Speaker 2:should the state vote for top George. What are you going to do? What are you going to change? I don't know. I'd have to see what's busted first.
Speaker 1:I'd have to see what's busted first. I'd have to see what's really broken. You don't know what's broken, not specifically.
Speaker 2:No, there's things I don't like. What's the one thing? Plastic straws.
Speaker 1:Plastic straws 100% That'll go out. Plastic bags get them back too.
Speaker 2:Dude, how keen are they to give you plastic bags in the US?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They're like do you need a bag? I'm like no, and they're like come on, take one.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like it's free. Look, it's free, we don't even have to pay for it. Yeah, here we pay for paper ones. I don't even know, man, I wouldn't know. I'd probably look at a whole range of business type things. I it's to encourage businesses to actually go out there and employ and make money. I'd give some tax cuts to them and incentives for people going out on a limb. I'd be celebrating that aspect of it. I'd be pulling a lot of the bullshit stuff they teach in schools, right?
Speaker 1:So I wouldn't know exactly. Change business tax structures. Yeah, I'd be definitely supporting small businesses. That'd be a massive thing, I think, because if you can support them, they're the key driver of everything that happens in this country, so I would definitely help them. But then also look at, well, what are the big guys doing too. Is there people avoiding their obligations to the state With the? Electricity is out of control in this state, right? Electricity prices, what you're paying for home electricity and to heat and cool your home, and gas, and all that? Why? Why is there three or four big retailers and that's it? Why do they have a monopoly? Why is that the rate? Why is this?
Speaker 1:You used to put solar in your house. There used to be a return on investment. You get fuck all return for solar. Now, why? Why are there all these things in place that just make that? Just don't make sense? I would try and do a Doge style review of everything we're doing. Come in and look at it and go. That is fucking dumb. Stop it. Just stop. Stop doing that dumb shit. Albanese, do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean Get out of the chair.
Speaker 1:But simple things like that and I guarantee you once, like I'll go, I'll hire advisors, say, listen, go through and tell me all the dumb shit that we do in this state Tolls, why. I said it to you the other day, we're talking about tolls when we're driving home. So why are'm going this way? Good, but tolls. I reckon that fucking Monash Freeway has been paid off 17 times over. Why have we still got tolls? Why are there still tolls, it says. Is that supposed to stop a while? From memory, I'm going off the top of my head now. Apparently, those tolls were supposed to be off by a certain date and people just forget.
Speaker 1:No, it's written somewhere when it first came in. I remember when tolls were first introduced onto that road. I understand it. We had to pay to get the tunnel built.
Speaker 2:It's the oldest thing I've ever heard you say in my life I remember when they I'm 40, back in my day I remember Back in my day. Let's put these tolls up. I remember when they named Montolia when they gave it the name. I was there In 700 BC, that's right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, but like something like that. Maybe there's something there that's like people just forget, they don't care. Like ask them hey, why don't you ask the question, why do we still pay in tolls? Oh, it's a great revenue raiser for the company, for the state.
Speaker 2:That's what it is, of course.
Speaker 1:Okay, get's all right, I'll get money elsewhere.
Speaker 2:Sort it out. Tariffs, here we go. You know what I mean? We'll find things, we'll make a game. You can't just drop business tax and remove all the tolls. I'm not. How much do you reckon they make for tolls?
Speaker 1:I'm going to make it better. I'm not saying not to, I'm saying there make millions of dollars a day, without a doubt, without a doubt, but it's also run by a private company which is owned by who I don't know. No idea, as in it's managed by them, it could be managed by them.
Speaker 1:I'm sure the government definitely takes it 100%, 100%. But yes, it could be just a pure revenue raiser. But there's so many other things, like our stamp duty. You know stamp duty. When you buy a home, you pay stamp duty on it. Do you know what the stamp duty is for the original tax? Why they brought stamp duty in?
Speaker 1:You were telling me this earlier. I told you yeah, to fund the war, to fund World War II, yeah, but this and it's just here. It's still here. But people just oh, Like I buy a house, I have to pay stamp duty. Yeah, you don't even know what it is. It's to support the war efforts.
Speaker 2:It's an administration piece of a hundred grand.
Speaker 1:Exactly Whatever it is Right, but clipping the ticket, still going through that. This is why we have so many issues in the country and in the state, and I'd be looking if I was in power. Guys, I'm just going to start from the top. Look at what's fucking stupid and go cool, let's get rid of that. What are we spending stupid money on? What are we charging stupid money on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the spending part is massive.
Speaker 1:The spending part's going to be massive. I'm sure there are heaps of things and I don't even know what they are, I just don't know. I'm sure if I started Googling and chat GPT or whatever, I'd be all right. But getting in front of a stage talking in front of people, I'd excel at that part. That'd be fun and people wouldn't like. I'm sure there'd be questions that they would try and stump me on because I'm not a politician, I'm a business owner and builder. I'm that way inclined. I'm sure they would come and try and stump me on fiscal policy and all this and tell me this and say listen, fiscal fucking know what that means. You can say that in the meeting when I'm addressing the state, I say listen, I've got no idea what you just said. Okay, but you see, those three people, they fucking love fiscal policy. They love it, they breathe it. They're going home tonight and talking to their wives about it. Google what fucking fiscal policy means.
Speaker 2:Oh, you don't even know what it means. I don't even know. I've heard it once. Yeah, I think you'd do well. Look, I might register to vote for you, but if you do that, if you do that, I might do it.
Speaker 1:Okay. Fiscal policy involves government decisions on revenue, taxes and spending to influence the country's economy, aiming to achieve goals like economic growth, employment and price stability. I'm all for that shit. I'm all for that. But if they ask me to explain, I just have to Google it, and I might even do that whilst I'm addressing the state. Let me just Google that, because that's not important. Me knowing those things is not important. Me getting the right team in to do those things and to action it based off what's best for the state or for the country that's what's important. Can?
Speaker 2:you do well.
Speaker 1:In which, in the position, I'd like to think so, yeah, I'd like to think so, but I think I would also get a lot of people offside. I think a lot of people wouldn't agree with my point of view, which is totally fine. The whole idea of that is you should have opposing views because I should be challenged.
Speaker 2:Otherwise then I can become a dictator. Yeah, exactly, I mean you're sitting there like, oh yeah, we'll do what you want I get and we'll do what you want. You get a bag, you get a bag.
Speaker 1:It would be difficult. You can't please everyone. You never will. Being like the South Czech shouldn't be the aim. That's right and that's what I mean. The decisions that I make. I'm there to do what's best for the state. That's what I'm there to do and that's what the Prime Minister should be doing. That's what the premiers of each state should be doing what's best for them, and then also as a whole, premiers, I think, can sometimes be like no, this is the best for Victoria, fuck New South Wales. No, you live in the same fucking country. Sort your shit out, make the game easy to win.
Speaker 2:I'm going to make you paid. Sort your shit out, make the game easy to win. I'm going to make you paid. Vote one for Top.
Speaker 1:Doored. Oh my goodness, Could you imagine? Well, I think Iggy might even stay here, register to become a citizen and vote for me.
Speaker 2:Look if there's anything that's going to bring him back. I mean, this is going to be it.
Speaker 1:That's going to be. It isn't it. But do you know what else people should vote us? The number one podcast in the country. That's what they should do, and how would they do that?
Speaker 2:That's a great question, good, great question we should enter like a podcast award.
Speaker 1:How good would that be.
Speaker 2:An award.
Speaker 1:Actually, you know there are podcast awards. Yeah, I know we should enter it. If you're listening to the podcast people giving awards out, we'd love this. Give us an award. Give us an award. Give us an award and an or give us a nomination. Yeah, let's just go to the party. That'd be fun. And we can wear our hats. Yeah, we can wear our tops. We can get t-shirts and see how many people comment on our tops and say love, the top Isn't, if you. Yeah, I don't know about bragging, about being nominated for something.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah Cause you can self nomnominate or get your mum to do it. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Like it looks good, but it's not that good. Not that good. It's a branding ploy, marketing ploy, but yeah, to win it, I think it's better, and it depends how you win it. Do you win it by paying a $20,000 subscription fee to a magazine or do you win it by genuine votes from people that have influence in that space? Who knows, who knows? Regardless, we don't do it for the accolades, we don't do it for the awards. We do it because we love you and we want you to be subscribed to this channel so we can help reach other people that love to hear our conversations and, more importantly, learn something that they can implement in their business or their lives.
Speaker 2:I agree, you concur I concur.
Speaker 1:Well, this has been an interesting chat and one that I didn't think it would go in that direction.
Speaker 2:But if you've taken anything away from this whole conversation. It's vote one for Top George, that's it, just do it.
Speaker 1:Find a way.
Speaker 2:If you want taxes to go down and tolls to go down and everything else to go down, and for me to kiss your baby, yeah, and to get plastic straws, vote one. Top George, here we are, we'll be back here next week. Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
