Million Dollar Days

Real Talk on Handling Life’s Hardest Moments

• Robby Choucair and George Passas • Season 1 • Episode 85

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What happens when everything goes wrong in a single day? Robby shares a cascade of frustrations—from engine lights and parking tickets to burned custard—that pushed him to the edge. Rather than dispensing hollow motivational advice, this conversation dives into the raw reality of handling life's inevitable bad days.

George reveals his unexpected late-night hospital visit before a business trip, illuminating how quickly our priorities shift when health is threatened. This candid exchange offers practical wisdom on separating business problems from your personal identity, with George sharing how Robby's advice to view challenges as "company problems, not personal problems" provided valuable emotional distance during difficult times.

The discussion takes a fascinating turn toward our future with artificial intelligence. Robby believes we're drastically underestimating how quickly AI will transform society—potentially creating a world where traditional concepts of work and money become obsolete within just two years. Both hosts contemplate what they would do if freed from financial concerns, revealing their authentic values beyond professional pursuits.

This episode challenges conventional wisdom about work-life balance, suggesting instead we focus on "work-life priority"—intentionally deciding what deserves our attention in each season. Whether you're navigating business challenges, contemplating career changes, or wondering how to prepare for an AI-driven future, this conversation provides both practical strategies and philosophical perspective for living a meaningful life in uncertain times.

What would you do if your basic needs were guaranteed and money no longer mattered? Share your thoughts with us and discover what this might reveal about your true priorities.


George:

I'm confident at this one. Oh good, my headphones are shit.

Robby:

Sure, we'll fucking roll with it. See how it goes. Worst case.

George:

Oh, test, I'm not on. I've got no nothing. Turn my mic, yep, all right.

Robby:

All right, sure, let's do it. Handle this how it looks. Oh no, you still fucking. No, you just can't clap in. Yeah. Yeah. What a life. I am tired man. Are you yeah?

George:

Should we reschedule this podcast? Do you want me to get you a pillow? Have a nap, why?

Robby:

don't you have a 15-minute nap, 15-minute nap.

George:

Yeah, I'll kick it off for the next 15 minutes. I just slept for seven hours. Well, it's dark. It's good morning. Good morning For us. It's good morning Nighttime. It's still dark outside here bright and early at the podcast studio. Million dollar days.

Robby:

It's one of the lesser things about Melbourne, isn't it? It's not that early, it that early? It's 10 past 7. The sun should be up, it's not. But we're in winter and I want to tell you about a day my day yesterday. What do you do?

George:

when you have a bad day, it's hard Sometimes. You know what, let's be honest. You know because I can sit here as some motivational fucking speaker and the hell to do.

Robby:

Got to keep going. There's days where I'm just like-. There's bad days, make good ones.

George:

Good, that's right, that's right. But there's days where I'm just like irritated. I think irritated's the best word for myself. I get irritated. I get easily annoyed. I might be a bit snappy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I want you to go into your story because I'll probably follow on to that as well.

Robby:

Yesterday was one of those days for me where I was just like just go to sleep, like just go to sleep and then, hopefully, when you wake up, everything is sorted. Dude, you know when things just stack and you think, oh, this is the third thing. You know that whole saying like things come in threes. You're like this is the third thing, nothing else is going to go wrong after this, and then like three more things. So I was having a shitty day yesterday, a bunch of stuff going wrong, and then I had like a couple of bad client meetings and I was like you know what? It was 6 pm ish and I was like you know what? I'm just going to call it. Just going to call it. I'm going to pack up my shit. I've got a couple of things I'll do when I get home and that's it. That's it. It's been shitty already.

Robby:

Those two meetings really pissed me off and I'm going to call it. So I grab all my shit, I pack up, I walk out, I jump in my car and I'm to me already. That's like fuck, today's been a shitty day. Do you know what I mean? And then I jump in my car, I turn my car on, engine lights on.

Robby:

I think serious man really like fucking, hell like and a relatively new car too yeah, relatively new car.

Robby:

Now I think I would have a male. Call these pricks tomorrow and take off, start driving, get halfway down big av to notice something flapping on my window, on my windscreen. Who the fuck is that fine? I'm like, really like I've got a. Jeremy says there's a fine in my window, so I get out, grab the fine. I think all right, whatever, just throw the fine to the side, let me go and, um, just just get home, right? So drive, go to Carl's, grab some bowls so I can make some dinner and get home. Stove blows up. Get home, chuck, chicken thighs on the Weber. Go inside, I'm getting some stuff ready. Go outside, weber runs out of gas?

George:

No, it doesn't. This is a made up story. I don't believe this you can't make this stuff up.

Robby:

I don't believe it at all. I swear to you. Weber runs out of gas and I forgot the cleaners were coming that day. I read the message as Tuesday, but it was Monday and they came in and they'd cleaned, so I wasn't going to sit there cooking chicken thighs on my freshly wiped-down stove, anyway. So this is that, and then I'm like you know what do you? Do you bake at all? Never, never baked in your life. You should try it.

George:

It's very satisfying. I want to.

Robby:

I will I will anyway give me your recipe I'll, uh, let me perfect it first, okay. And then I'm like, all right, you know, I felt like something sweet. So I'm like I'm just going to make some custard. I usually make custard, it's just eggs and cream and I'll have it with a bit of honey. It's like really nice and clean, yeah. So I was like I'll make some custard. You know, while I'm cooking the chicken thighs in the transferable to the oven, blah, blah, blah, all this jazz. I'm like the oven's on, I might as well, so I eat. The food was good.

Robby:

And then I put everything into the oven with the custard. And I remember, I recall looking at the custard and saying five more minutes and I'll take them out, right, and then I got distracted. And then next thing I knew I was in the shower and then in the shower. Then in the shower I remembered the custard dude and I fucking ran out, made a mess, ruined my whole like apartment, called the cleaners again come back, ruined everything, burned the custard. And then I thought what's the common denominator here? Me? Yeah, do you know what I mean? Everything I'm touching is falling apart today. Yeah, so I went to sleep, took the commons and hominator out, yeah, and I'm just like you know what? Nah, just go to bed, yeah, then I just went to lay down and fell asleep.

George:

Good, nice, and early at that time. What time was?

Robby:

that 9.30. It's pretty early.

George:

It's pretty early. It's pretty early, yeah, got a good sleep now, feeling nice and fresh, yeah, no, you're not Still feel the same? Do you still feel irritated right now?

Robby:

I still have to solve half of these problems. None of them got fixed. So I've got to go get the gas for the WebR. I've still got to go call City of Port Phillip and say, hey, are you guys blind? Yeah, exactly, do you know what I mean? I've got a fucking permit here's my permit, and go contest that. Fine, I've still got the other stuff I still need to sort out. But it was kind of like a this is not going to stop, like one after another, after another after another, and I'm like man. But then it's like you must be doing something. I like to frame it in that way, because then it gives you some level of control. Yes, absolutely, oh, it always is, it always is. Yeah, yeah, like what Is it?

George:

just all a coincidence? Yeah, here's the thing. And how many days are there in a year? 365. 365. 365. So of those 365 days in a year, do you expect to have at least 30 bad days? I share this with you too, that's right, but this is what I but just to reiterate, like for other people listening as well, it's more.

George:

So if you're going to have those 30 bad days like you almost you have to take the good with the bad. Like, how, how ignorant are you or arrogant to think that every single day is going to be an amazing day? You know it's going to happen. I think it's part of the process as far as you dealing with it and just going cool, it's just one of these days, man, like I'm going to have one of these days, but we've still got 11 months of really good fucking days. Or you're going to have three months of okay days and then the rest are going to be really, really good, but it's easy to say that post the day or post that moment or during that moment. It's really easy to say it. It's another thing when you're going through one of those 30 days or 40 days or 50 days, whatever it is, to then ground yourself and go okay, well, let's take a step back and let's look at this.

George:

For me, nothing pisses me off more when I'm very protective of my time. This has been something I've been really obsessed with over the last few years when I'm at home and, like me, this business owner, when I'm at home and I'm copying work calls and emails and stuff like that. It tends to irritate me a bit right, especially lately. I don't have to answer them, but when I'm still getting them and getting bombarded with them, they irritate me. And it happened on Sunday and I had this one bloke. He kept messaging me, right, and he's like blah blah, blah blah. I I actually responded, which I normally don't, but I did because I was able to and I responded and said listen, it's happening on this day, like relax, okay, speak soon, see you on Monday. But then he kept going and going and going and then my message. I ended up getting pretty frustrated with it and I said listen, if you persist with this message, it'll be the last time we fucking talk. All right, it'll be the last time message. It'll be the last time we fucking talk. It'll be the last time I fucking told you when this is happening, leave me the fuck alone, I don't want to talk about this anymore. Anyway, and then he persisted again after that and I blocked his number, but still that got me in an irritated state. I was at the park with my kids. I should have been playing with them or doing whatever with them For those five minutes that I was recopying these messages back and forth. I'm like fuck, that took me away from what does bring me peace, but still I got irritated, I got annoyed. In that moment, honestly, I feel the last.

George:

I don't know what it's been like for you, but the last five months have just been hectic. I've had the busiest start to the year. I've been working in the business more than ever and the funny thing is I've pushed back into a CEO role and I've been working in the business more than I ever have before and we've had some key staff away. I've had some movements that we've had to make internally and stuff like that. So I think the change, I think that had to happen for me to get through this period of time. We've just got a couple of key projects that we need to finish and I feel for the last five months I just haven't had a break, like I haven't had a couple of days where I can go, like even when we went to Vegas, like that wasn't relaxing for me that whole trip.

George:

There were times, obviously, where we got to chill out and have some fun, but in the back of my mind was all the shit going on back at home and sometimes I find it difficult to switch off from that moment. And even last night, when I was walking home, like I walked out of here around quarter to six probably not long before you, and before I walked in the door I had that level of irritation. And before I walked in the door I was like cool, my family don't deserve this, here right now, they're just going to be happy to see me. I'm not going to walk in there with attitude. I'm not going to walk in there with attitude. I'm not going to walk in with, ah fuck, today's been hard.

George:

It's like nah, cool, walk in. Hey everyone, how are you? Like game face, but for a different, from a different side. And that helped, like I was glad I was able to take that moment before I walked through the door to put my shit aside and then be present when I was at home as well. But still it doesn't stop me from getting irritated. And I don't know if you truly can I coach strategies and tell things about that, but what do you think about that? Do you think you can truly be completely zen in stressful situations? You know you had a whole series of events that happened yesterday the ticket, the, this, the this. For me sometimes the worst one was the custard.

George:

Out of everything. But sometimes does it also get to the point where you just laugh, because I've had that too. I've had a little laugh Not that one, but I've had that too where it's just like you're just like, this is comical now All the shit going on.

Robby:

No, I on, um, no, I didn't laugh yesterday, well, but I, I I got to osteo, yeah, to get my arm sorted. And um, I was talking to the girl she's osteo as a female and I was talking to her and she's like you know you work a lot, blah, blah, blah. She's like you don her and she's like you know you work a lot, blah, blah, blah. She's like, but you don't seem. She's like do you get stressed? And I was like yeah, she's like. You don't seem like the sort of person that gets stressed. Like every time I see you you're kind of just like hey, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, yeah, and I was like every time I get really stressed, I just remind myself that you're going to die and none of this is going to matter. Like, zoom out far enough and none of this shit matters. Like you know what I mean the client, the car, the ticket, the custard, who gives a fuck?

George:

Yeah, you won't even think about this in 10 months time.

Robby:

It does not matter Like your time here is now. It's limited. You're going to be buried one day. People are not going to remember your name, that's it.

George:

I'll remember this podcast. Do you know why? Why? Because I'll all be subscribed.

Robby:

You know, the state of the internet is about to change. I know, no, no, like a lot, like a lot, a lot. Websites are about to change. I actually made a video about this yesterday. Yeah, and I don't know if YouTube's going to be a thing.

George:

Yeah, right, well, that's a big call based off what you said, even a few weeks, like last week, yeah, yeah, and YouTube, you think it's going to be the biggest platform.

Robby:

Well like I think. So YouTube actually. Sorry, let me rephrase that the internet's going to have two sides. It's going to have the information side and then it's going to have the side that humans want to consume. Do you know what I mean? So it's like this podcast might live on but, like an AI is never going to consume this podcast, it'll just read the transcript in a second and understand what happened in the whole episode and say they're talking about me.

Robby:

You know what I mean, but the state of the whole internet is going to change forever. I don't know if this will. I don't know if this will live on.

George:

Who knows, who knows? But the information will be there. But you shouldn't take the risk, because Robbie doesn't know everything. So don't take the risk. And you should subscribe nonetheless, because many of you listen. But are you subscribed? That's correct. That's the question. So back to it.

Robby:

But yeah, so do I get frustrated.

George:

All designed? Yeah, I think so too, and when you have high pressure job as well, or position or role, it comes with the territory too. So I think there's a level of embracement with that. You have to embrace that this is going to happen, this is going to be a challenge. It's not going to ever be easy.

Robby:

if you want extraordinary things, they're generally going to require high pressure situations and for you to be able to get through them and navigate them you know, yeah, but don't you think, um, there is a level of running your business that has developed you into a human like that you probably wouldn't be had you not been put in those positions. Oh, without a doubt.

George:

Without a doubt, without a doubt. Sometimes I look at it too, though, and I'm like surely there is an easier way to win at this game.

Robby:

What's winning?

George:

Let's say from a, from financial, but also from yeah, so I'd say there'd be that level for sure. Winning like business is money Like. That's why we all all in it to make the money. So yeah, I'd say there'd have to be a financial aspect to it. And then there'd be the satisfaction of the delivery of your product or service or whatever it might be as well. And if it does create change in the world or anything like that, or if it's purely there just to print notes.

Robby:

So monetary and fulfillment yeah.

George:

Yeah, I think there's a level of both of those. In my industry anyway, you know, we get a high level of fulfillment when we're delivering projects and handing over keys to people for their projects. Do you, does that go away? No, I love doing it for people that are really grateful. You know, when I get a great like I've got a couple of clients now they just like everything we do, like thank you, like they pay me and they thank me. Do you know what I mean? Like they're just so grateful for everything we do. They see that there's so many moving parts. They appreciate the difficulty and the nature of the jobs and all that stuff Like nature of the jobs and all that stuff. They appreciate it. And for those people I would build forever.

George:

It's when you end up getting the other side of that coin where it becomes difficult and frustrating and really doesn't make you enjoy what you do. There's definitely that level of it. It's a very emotional game building because often there's a lot of money involved with it and people aren't equipped from the client side to handle that. Stresses that I, that they're things that they're stressed about. I look at it and go what are you talking about? That's nothing, it's just another day. This is what happens on every single project, but for them it's their whole world and it's like this is going, everything's falling apart and this and this, and you're not doing this and that, then that's not going wrong. I said, it's what happens, we'll get through it and you move on to the next one.

Robby:

So there is that. Isn't that just context though? Yeah, absolutely. It is Like I just complained about my chicken and my custard and a fine on my car. There's someone who would love to have those problems? Love to have them.

George:

And this is now the coaching side of stuff where we come in and start being motivational speaker, george and Robbie, because you get to have all of these problems. You don't have to have them. How lucky are you? Your brand new car, which is 12 months old, that it has an engine light on it that people would love, that would do anything to have that car. You can just call up Ford and say, hey, sort out your shit, my car's not working, give me another one, I'll drop it off in the morning, you're fine. Oh, how good are you Lucky you don't have to fight a war tomorrow and you get to have a fine on your car, your food.

Robby:

How lucky you get to eat and make that food. I also think that it's very. I like to look at it differently personally Differently.

George:

in what way?

Robby:

Like in, like okay. So to say, like, how lucky are you to have food, like everyone has food, it's not 9,500. Do you know what I mean? Hey, it might get like that. Yeah, who knows?

George:

By the way, yeah, for real. I was having a chat with someone about it yesterday. They were talking about like people aren't spending money anymore. Everyone's like real tightening up the purse strings. I said you just wait until people start losing their jobs. You know when, when that happens especially you know we're talking about AI agents and all that sort of stuff you just wait until people start going. You know how the fuck, where do I get my next job from? But they won't. What do you mean In this country?

Robby:

No, no, there could definitely be a recession where people start to lose their shit. There there's 100% yeah, that's what.

George:

I mean that's coming. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's going to get tougher. I feel that that element of where we're at now is coming. You're going to need to be able to deal with these things. Look, able to deal with this thing. Look, you can. Here's the thing, right, you can always sit there and feel sorry for yourself. So I try, and almost I get annoyed at being annoyed. You know, like, oh, fucking hell, this is like no, no, fuck it. Man, like this isn't going to control me, let's go, I'll make another custard.

George:

Control you like the the problem that you're in right now. So, fuck, I bought my custard, cool, I'll make another one. I got more eggs. I've got more cream. I've got more honey, I'll make more. It'll take me fucking 15 minutes throw it out. Do it again. So not being you reckon custard takes 15 minutes.

Robby:

Come on, man, how long does it take your custard? You gotta go 45 minutes. What's going on?

George:

this is bullshit in 2025, fucking hell fucking hell, don't you just get out of a packet and put it in the microwave or something I wish.

Robby:

That was a real deal.

George:

Real guy I'm not a real guy? Of course you are. Of course you are. This isn't AI Robbie talking, but there's a level of me, like that's, where I sort of look at it from that perspective too. I don't let the situation control me, I control it, and that often helps me get through a lot of things. Something, and that often helps me get through a lot of things Something that you said to me the other day, just a few days ago, last week, when we went to Adelaide for a Sydney no, sydney, sorry. Yeah, went to Sydney for our fuck Globetrotters.

Robby:

What a life, what a life.

George:

Went to Sydney. Yeah, vegas, fuck, we've done some miles, got some frequent fly points and we're in Sydney and we're doing some events and we're talking on the way back and I was saying we're talking about work and business and I was saying how I was getting shitty at certain things and you gave me some really good advice. It's like that's a PASCON problem, that's not a you problem, separating yourself from the actual issue. The business is having that challenge, not you. The business has to deal with that, not you. And even though I said I'm the one fixing the problem, it was still good to have that separation from the two because no, no, that's a business problem that's got nothing to do with me. When I'm at home, it's not my problem. When I'm with my friends or here doing this podcast, that's not my problem. That's the business problem. We just need to put systems and processes in place to solve and resolve those problems. But that was a good disconnect for me when we were talking about that.

Robby:

Yeah, but I think you could go one step further. Like you just said, my clients pay me, they don't pay you.

George:

Yeah, that's right. That's correct. Do you know what I mean? That's 100% correct. It's PASCON's money, it's not mine, yeah.

Robby:

And then you're a shareholder and an employee of pasco. Yeah, that's all it is. Um. Yeah, people have failed to make that's one.

George:

That was a big insight for myself. Yeah, me too really helped. And so again, fucking 10 years in business and it's really the first time I've looked at it like that, so it was good to have that disconnect. Um, yeah, so there's, there's always going to be difficulties, and you know what, man, there's harder times coming Of all the shit that you're going through right now in your business or whatever. There's going to be even harder times than that to come, and it may not be a professional difficulty, it can also be a personal one when you get your health man. Okay, can I tell this story quickly before? You go into that?

George:

When did we fly to Sydney? It was Wednesday. Wednesday we flew, so we had an 8 am flight. So that morning I woke up at 1.30 am and my stomach was. I was in a bit of pain. I'm like, oh yeah, whatever, because at the moment I've got a hernia and I need to go. I've booked in to get that removed in a couple of weeks. And I woke up in pain. I'm like what the hell? This is weird. Anyway, I sort of tried to sleep it off. It was getting worse and worse, took some Panadol, went back to bed and then it started to really hurt. I was sweating. I'm like, right, there's something not right here. Then I had to get in a car, go to the hospital.

George:

I was in the hospital just past 2 am. I'm sitting there waiting for the doctors they're getting assessed, getting them in triage and waiting in a room, and I actually honestly thought I wasn't making the flight. I thought I'm going in for an op. Now. This is it. I can't. Something's happening. It's not right. They gave me some medication, whatever it might be, and I was there like in a lot of pain. I've got a decent pain threshold. My wife will think otherwise, but I think I've got a decent pain threshold. Women have a high pain threshold, they do. They've got a higher one than men, for sure they give birth.

George:

They have to, but look, I don't like pain. Let's be honest, I don't like being in pain. It's not something like yes, here we go, headache, can't wait.

Robby:

Those words have never been said. There you go, so.

George:

I was there for a good two hours. The pain got worse whilst I was in hospital too. I couldn't even lie down. The doctor asked me to lie down at one stage and I said I can't lie down. That kills to lie down, so I had to kind of sit up or lean over and just hold in my stomach. They gave me some medication, anyway. About two hours later it was around 10 past four just all of a sudden all the pain went away, like completely like as if it never happened. Drugs are great. Oh man, it was just like like the the relief. I was like what the hell how did? How did that happen anyway? Then the doctor came in, like literally two minutes later. He goes, hey, I said mate, you won't believe this. I'm like completely fine, like it doesn't even hurt, and he's like okay I don't even know why I'm here.

George:

Yeah, it was like okay. Like okay, it might be, this, might be this. Anyway, you seem okay, everything looks okay, he goes. Well, just go on about your day, you should be fine. So I'm flying to Sydney in a few hours, Am I good to go? He's like yeah, you should be fine. If anything happens, just go to the hospital again. I said Took an Uber home, got changed and then caught that same Uber back to the airport and I was waiting for you there.

Robby:

You didn't drive to the hospital?

George:

No, I just took an Uber there Because I wasn't sure what I was going to do with cars and shit like that, and Nicole needed to take the kids to school in the morning, so I just left it and I didn't know what I was going to do. Do you know what I mean? So I didn't have to cancel the tour. We're gonna. I'm not gonna be able to do. How am I gonna do the event? I'm gonna message all the boys say don't go to the hospital, don't go to the airport. Yet we may not be going.

Robby:

Um, you know, I didn't jerry until later that day as to why you had sent me a message saying call me before you leave the house, and then you said actually don't worry, all good, yeah, I just thought you'd forgotten something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my whole when, I saw both messages, because I didn't see it until after I woke up. Did you see the time?

George:

that I sent it though.

Robby:

It was like 40 minutes difference or something. No what time. The first message would have come at, like 3am, I think it was 4 or something. Oh, was it Okay?

George:

yeah, but yeah, it was early. Yeah, yeah, that's right, I didn't think anything of it. I was half asleep also, yeah, but I'd sent that because I thought, well fuck, I don't want them to go to the airport and go to Sydney and then we have to cancel the event. Oh, it was 3am. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, because I wasn't sure exactly what was going to happen at that time.

George:

So, you know, a lot of people would have just given us oh no, I'm not going to go, I'm just going to go, stay home, I'm going to rest, I'm going to be okay, I'm going to just chill out. But you know you get to when you have a health problem. You know we're talking about. There's going to be worse things. I wasn't thinking about the reports I had to do for PASCON. See what I mean Didn't even come into mind.

George:

Even the event, even the event we had that next day. I was like all right, I'll cancel it, big fucking deal. I'll do it next week, or I'll change the date, or I'll say sorry, here's a refund. See you in three months, or we'll credit you. It wasn't even a thing on my radar. The one thing that I was focused on was getting better. I was there with the doctors, I said, hey, cut me up, let's go, stop fucking around, fix this, that's it. Fix this, get rid of this problem. There are going to be stresses and things that come up in the future that are going to be significantly worse than what you're going through, your battles in business. I promise you that. I promise you that, Whether it's your own health or whether it's the health of others or a death in the family or friends, whatever it might be, there's going to be worse days and the funny thing is your ability to cope with the stress here is probably going to give you some mental calluses when those other bad days happen as well.

Robby:

To a degree, yeah, a level of not great, but a level of an ability to be able to deal with what is.

George:

I think Jordan Peterson said this it's like you should be the strongest person at your parents' funeral. I don't think he's doing well. Who, jordan? In what way?

Robby:

I think he's. Did you see that recent one Christian versus 20 atheist thing? I saw parts of it, yeah. He got grilled about it?

George:

Yeah, I saw parts of it.

Robby:

Absolutely grilled, did he? He's getting schooled by 18-year-olds.

George:

Yeah, oh so he didn't. He just wasn't handling himself. Yeah, he didn't deal with the arguments. Yeah. Yeah, did you watch all of it.

Robby:

Bits and pieces of it.

George:

Yeah, I've seen little parts. I suppose the parts I saw were when he probably answered it really well, do you know what I mean? Because they tend to be more based on his point of view than the other one.

Robby:

Yeah, but nonetheless a very smart man.

George:

They did that with Charlie Kirk as well.

Robby:

Yeah, he's a good debate.

Robby:

Yeah, that's right. But yeah, touching on the AI thing you spoke about, things are going to get worse. I heard this thing the other day and I'll share it because I thought it was something consuming. A lot around this like a lot and there's some different theories. People think this is going to be the greatest thing ever Like life is it's just new jobs are going to come up and you know, just another revolution. And there's other people who think there's that aspect. And then there's the complete opposite, which is like this is going to be the end of humanity. Do you know?

Robby:

what I mean. And I looked at my plant. The other day I got a plant in my corner of my apartment, real plant, alive, not plastic. I don't give a fuck about it, I'm serious. If it died I would throw it out. I would be inconvenienced at the fact that I had to throw it out. That's right, you had to walk to the trash. Yeah, I wouldn't be upset, my life wouldn't change. Ai is going to feel like that about us. It's going to be like this guy You're're dead, you need to eat again. Do you know what I mean? Do you know how much I've done in the last four hours? And you want to eat again. And it's like this guy said this thing. This guy I watched a podcast of him. His name is mo mo godat. He used to be some say sweet guy at Google and I reckon if you saw him you'd recognise him. He's quite a.

George:

I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah, bald dude with a beard. Yes, bald guy With a beard oh, no, I don't think.

Robby:

I'll figure it out. If you saw him, I reckon you'd recognise him. He's got some cool it out. Sorry, but I reckon you'd recognise it and he's got some cool videos out. Like he lost his son at a young age. He lost his son when he was like three yeah, that's fucked and he shares a story about that.

George:

That's the sort of thing that I don't think I would cope. I don't know how You'd have to, but I don't know how it would be't think I would cope. I don't know how you'd have to, but I don't know. I don't know how it would be for me It'd be rough.

Robby:

Yeah, that's it. It's like one of those things. Even dude like, okay, do you? How does an 85 year old cope when they bury their six year old son?

George:

Yeah, I think that would be devastating too, and I've seen that that's worse. I've seen that happen. I've seen that happen. I was at a funeral last year, the year before, and it was the exact scenario. It was an 80-year-old parent, or whatever it was, with their 60-year-old daughter.

Robby:

That's what I'm saying, yeah, and then you look and it's like okay, I don't think that would change man, I don't think.

George:

As a parent, I don't care. I don it matters what age you are.

Robby:

Yeah, it doesn't make it. Yeah, it's not like oh well, at least 60,. Ah good.

Robby:

Yeah, I did, okay, but more so from the aspect of like you really knew this person, like you really 60?, like you know what I mean, like we haven't even lived that long and it's like Another long time. You're almost there, but Closer, closer than you. Um, oh, look, it's a privilege to get there, right, yeah, like it's a, it's a, an honor almost. But, um, it's like how do you do that? How does? And then, like at 85, it's almost like you probably fed up with the world already. Do you know what I mean? And then it's like this happens, like how do you experience that and not be sour about it? Yeah, yeah, exactly that's what I mean. Do you know what I mean? Because it was kind of like what the fuck are we doing here? You know what I mean, whereas, at least with the kids, he looked into his videos.

Robby:

He's a really cool guy and he explains it in a way where he's like he came and did his thing and left. Like he came and he showed us, he taught me this, this and that, and he went and that was his. That's what he was destined to do and it's just a very good perspective. And he talks about AI. He's a big in the AI space on that and he's like he goes. People don't understand he goes. Right now. We know this is smarter than everyone he goes. They're calling the power godlike, godlike. Now, if I, he goes. What people aren't thinking about is the first time they integrate this into a human, like the first time they say, hey, george, we're going to wire you directly to AI, so your IQ is going to go from 120 to 4,000 instantly. He goes. That person's not going to allow anyone else to do it, because if I gave you godlike powers, you're going to stop everyone else from having it, because you're not going to want anyone to have the same ability that you do. So the second we connect one person with it, there's a good chance that person is going to convince everyone else that it's not. You know what I mean. Whether they act like they're getting something, you know what I mean They'll find a way to manipulate everyone else, to stop everyone else from getting it.

Robby:

And, dude, there's that theory. There's the theory of, you know, china versus the US, and whoever hits it first, the other one will nuke the fucking planet. Be like cool. You think you're going to fucking take over the world. There's a theory of life's going to become. It's going to be utopia and it's going to be like, hey, you know AI doing everything. We don't need to work anymore, don't need to do anything.

Robby:

Like you want the house built, it's free, whatever you want. You know what. Anything like you want the house built, it's free, whatever you want, you know I mean, this is like it's like the sims. Yeah, whatever you want, you want that. You want that meal? Of course, the robot chef will make it for you for free. We have abundance of chickens and abundance of meat and whatever you want. Yeah, and it's all managed by this thing. And they are so smart. They've worked out how to make everything free and energy's free, and you know what I mean. We've got infinite cattle and we've now become a multi-planetary species and everything is just more than we can you can do.

Robby:

You get to focus on your passions. You know what I mean. You get to literally do whatever you want. You want to be a painter? Of course you can become a painter. You don't have to make money anymore. You can go and paint all day, every day, and just practice that skill. Yeah, you know what I mean and then become an artist or become whatever you want to be. And then there's the other side of that of like people are going to have no purpose, no vision, no, nothing. It's like suicide or cyberating in a skyrocket because we're going to go through dystopia. What's the video you sent me the other day from Gary Vaynerchuk About marrying an AI? Yeah, look, it's weird. It's definitely weird.

George:

Is it? Yeah, you reckon, you don't reckon. Well, there's people out there now marrying objects. Now, obviously, they have some mental disorders.

George:

They marry planes and chairs and shit like that and they have that connection with it. But in saying that there's if you can get a robot, okay, to look as human as possible, to function as human as possible, like there's movies on it, and then you plug it into an ai and you talk to it and you can have proper conversations with it. It knows you intimately in many different levels. You may not be able to legally marry it, but there'll be a level of people connecting with it.

George:

Sorry. So why he was just saying it just makes it just interesting to see, because I think people will go down that path. Look, it's still weird, don't get me wrong. I think it's odd, but they'll say it's 100% it's weird. But I'm just saying he reckons that it will happen like as soon as the next generation happen, where people are going to be trying to will be getting into relationships with robots.

Robby:

Yeah, I think people are still failing to comprehend how fast this is going to move. Yeah, with robots yeah. I think people are still failing to comprehend how fast this is going to move.

George:

Yeah, without a doubt they are.

Robby:

Yeah, no, like everyone us included.

George:

Yeah, I mean, look, I didn't think about it at all yesterday. There you go, yeah At all, not even once. So it's yeah, it's definitely not, although I'm interested in it.

Robby:

Not once, not once yesterday. Wow, it's been so on the top of my mind it's not even funny. Yeah, like so, I probably consumed two hours of ai content every day, like on my way to work, on my way home at home in the morning. I've sometimes got stuff playing on my tv in the office.

George:

Yeah, every day it's full on, it is.

Robby:

But do you know what an AI wouldn't do? What's that? It wouldn't fuck up custard. It wouldn't.

George:

It'd be waiting. No, In 45 minutes. They'd know they'd have to turn the oven off.

Robby:

It wouldn't lay down on the couch and get distracted on Instagram and then go have a shower.

George:

But it could also watch Instagram at the same time and know that the custard still needed to be out of the oven. What a fuck up, and it could do everything Ruined your evening, but you got a good night's sleep in a nice, warm bed.

Robby:

Sure, what a life. That's one way to look at it, it is so all these hard days are coming.

George:

They will be here. What are you going to do next time you have this annoying day? Go to bed each and every time. Well, what would you do different? What if it's 12pm and all these things happen? Go to bed. Go to bed, hang up the boots each and every time. Well, what would you do? What if it's 12 pm and all these things happen? That'd be good. Go to bed, hang up the boots. What would you do? What would I do? Sometimes the work is the way so tend to. If whatever's bothering me, work on that. Get through that.

George:

So, like make more custard, yeah, make more custard. Or if it's at work and I'm doing a work related thing that's pissing me off, cool, let's get this thing done, cause as soon as I finish this, the issue is gone.

Robby:

Okay, but like so, a client called you about something, yeah, and then that's it. What are you going to do now? Client called you or something pissed you off. Yeah, what are you going to do now? You can't. It's not waiting on you, that's right, it's just there. Yeah, the thing is, and that's where I don't know. And now you're like you're waiting on them to get back to you.

George:

Yeah, that's annoying that irritates me.

Robby:

So like what's the? It is a PASCON problem, yeah, but who solves PASCON problems?

George:

That's right, I do. That's what I was saying to you the other day in the plane as well.

Robby:

No, but that's not. It's different. You were taking something personally. Yeah, yeah, but I was saying that's a PASCON issue, not a you issue. Yeah, like. Oh, yes, yes, yes yes, the problem is still yours to solve it's not going to solve itself. That's right. But it's not an attack on George, it's an attack on Pascom.

George:

No, correct, correct, so it's different. But even then it's still an attack on Pascom. But, as I said, it's me that has to fix that problem. It's still the pressure and the stress. It would still bother me either way. Like I know, I know what I'm like, even if my really good client caught me up Sometimes. Again, I see it as I think I can control situations pretty well. I think I'm a pretty good person when it comes to dealing with people. I think I've got some good people skills. I'm influential, I'm logical and I kind of solve the problem in that regard.

George:

So a lot of the time I look at them and I go cool, what's the actual problem? Why are you actually annoyed? And then I'll try and sort that out right then. Like if they called me up in a flurry, in a stress in this and said, hey, we've got this. Like, what are you stressed about? I'll actually ask him. I said what are you actually stressed about right now? Oh, this is over budget, okay, but we can make it under budget. You just don't get gold plated toilets. Like, what do you want to do? How do you want to solve this? Maybe it's just if it's. And I said, like if you can solve a problem with money. It's not a problem, it's an expense. All right, so cool, maybe I pay half, you pay half. Will that make you feel better? Yeah, okay cool.

George:

Done. So I often look at it like that too. I'll try and resolve that issue before it becomes why avoid that whole issue? Like, no, no, let's resolve it now. I've had these conversations this week and it's Tuesday. Yesterday I was speaking to no.

George:

Even last week I was speaking to a carpenter and he's like, oh, this, this, this, and he was cracking the shit. I said, oh, I go. What you're doing right now isn't going to resolve the problem. You acting this way and doing this and acting this way, you're going to do one of two things. You're going to go on site, you're going to call, you're going to do something stupid and go. It's going to costmed down. He's like, yeah, okay, all right, let's do this. Okay, cool, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. You're happy with that? Yes, I am Cool, move on Now. I could have very easily gone the other way. Do whatever the fuck you want. Fuck you. You want to fuck around and find out, prolonging or making that issue worse or bigger, or whatever it might be.

George:

So I often feel again in that situation, the work is me actually having that conversation. It may not be me physically working, doing a report, sending an email, whatever it might be, it might be just no, no, let's have the conversation now. That's the work. Let's go through that and get through that. And I find that most people work with me, especially because I'm not afraid to swallow my pride either. Cool, if I need to take a step back, if I need to spend money, if I need to do what I need to do to get through that, that's fine. I'm cool with that and I reckon most people relate to that.

George:

But I have dealt with unreasonable people too. There's just no reason to them, there is no reasoning with them. And those people you just got to cut out of your life, 100% cancerous. I've had clients like that and I'm glad I did, because now, if ever I have another client like that, I know to walk away sooner because I know the science. I'll see the science, I'll see the science. But again, before I even start, before I even engage a new client, I'm looking for these things. I'm seeing what they're going to be like, how they're interacting during contract signing, what they're doing during negotiations, everything. I'm assessing whether they are going to be a good fit for us from day one to try and avoid those issues in the future. So you didn't answer the question. I just went about it in a really long-winded way. Yeah, what would you do With the difficult client that just called me up?

Robby:

No, that's not what I asked. I said what would you do if you had a bad day? That was what you asked. Oh yeah, that's right. What would I do?

George:

Yeah, if you had a bad day.

Robby:

That was what you asked. Oh yeah, that's right what?

George:

would I do yeah, yeah, so you had a shitty day, okay? So, depending what it is, I try and work through it if I can.

Robby:

I find that pushing through the problem I feel better, I know so when they're not yeah, yeah, or the week.

George:

Yeah, I was speaking to an employee the other day. He's like, oh, this is going wrong, this is going wrong. I said, hey, you'll be done in three weeks. Keep going. Like what are you fucking around? Just keep going, don't let it. You've got three weeks of hard work. Yes, it's going to be hard, but in the fourth week you'll be like, oh how good, all right, but get it done today, move on.

George:

So there is still that matter. It doesn't have to be resolved in that first day. The other thing is yeah, sometimes I need to. Personally, I'll need to just get out of my own head and out of my own space, because I hate God, I don't want to go home and bring that energy home either, so I'm protective of that. So, whether that means you've got to go to the gym, you've got to go for a walk, you've got to listen to music, meditate, fucking breath, work, whatever you need to do, do I do that all the time? No, but I often find that even just it could mean just calling a friend, it could mean I don't mind going for a walk and just clearing my head for a bit.

George:

Oh, weeks ago, months ago, I had one of those days and I went downstairs and I had dinner by myself in the restaurant next door and it was just, I turned my phone off, or I put it on do not disturb, and I just ate, didn't even pick it up for Instagram, nothing. I just sat there by myself, I ordered as much food as I possibly could, so I was really satisfied and full and, man, I went home feeling 10 times better. 10 times better. So I think, in moments like that, when you cannot solve the problem, when the stress is there, when the issues are there, doing something to remove yourself from that helps me anyway. Change your environment. Yeah, absolutely A change of environment for sure, which is what I went to do.

Robby:

I went to leave. I'm like I'm just going to get out of here, Just going to go.

George:

I think that's the right call. And they continued with you thereafter. I took everything with me. It can't even be an issue say at home with your partner, like leave, don't leave forever, but go for a walk. Do you know what I mean? Say, hey, I'm going to go for a drive, I'm going to go ride my bike, I'm going to take the dog for a walk. Here, we need 30 minutes an hour to just chill the fuck out. I'm going Because if we keep going down this path, one of us is going to say something we're going to regret.

George:

Here's the thing. It's like your focus determines your reality too. You're having a shitty day. You're going to walk around Like, okay, say, you had an amazing day all day, and then you got to your car and there was a parking ticket. Fuck's sake, it wouldn't have ruined your day. But because you had such a shitty day, you looked at that parking ticket. Oh this, oh the engine light, oh the fucking custard, oh the barbecue. If it was just one of those things, would you have really been that annoyed? Probably not if you had a really good day prior. So your focus does determine your reality and, arguably, had you had a really good day, you probably wouldn't have forgotten about the custard. Yeah, I. Or maybe you would have been like oi, I haven't changed your gas bottle in a while Could be pretty low.

Robby:

I've been thinking about the gas bottle.

George:

Yeah, that's what I mean. So had you been in a different?

Robby:

state so how do you fix that? I've never, ever known how to solve that problem. I just knew that I'm going to get caught out one day. You should.

George:

With a gas bottle. Yeah, oh, you can't spare, but it's a bit hard for you.

Robby:

Have two full gas bottles sitting there.

George:

That's a lot of gas, a lot of gas. Yeah, I do. Actually, my barbecue ran out of and I had a spare in the garage, so I did have a spare. I've also got a patio heater, which, worst case scenario, I can pull that out and plug it in I've got three gas bottles, but yeah, it's having a spare. Or you know, like after a couple of months, hey, my gas bottle is getting pretty low.

Robby:

You change it before it's empty and give away for free. That's it, that's it.

George:

That's it. Or you just live life on the edge and one day you're going to run out of gas and you're going to be happy with it. Yeah well, last time it happened, Just laugh.

Robby:

Unhooked the bottle, ran to the car, jumped, threw it in and went straight to Bunnings and changed it over and came back and rec oh, that's okay yeah so I went to heat it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, and it ran out. Yeah, and it ran out and I was like oh yeah, lucky.

George:

Perfect timing.

Robby:

Yeah, when you think about it, it was annoying at the time because I had to now stop and I'm not going to eat for another 30 minutes.

George:

Or just order pizza. Game of pizza night.

Robby:

That was very close to like, even when I was talking to Grab the chicken, throw it off the balcony.

George:

So yeah, there is a level of disconnect. I think when you do have those difficult times Helps me anyway. And then you've got all the other stuff. Like, if it's a continuous thing, well, do you need to practice gratitude? Do you need to start re-shifting your focus? Is the issue that bad that you need to remove yourself from it altogether? Like is work, do you hate coming? No, I'm saying from the perspective do you hate work every fucking day, me? No, I'm saying if it got to like a person, if you hated what you did every single day and you're still going there every single day and you're realizing this, I don't want to go to work. I don't want to go to work. Every day is a shit day. That's a horrible feeling. It'd be very bad, absolutely.

George:

Imagine that you hate going to work every single day. Then you have a level of responsibility that it is your fault. It is your fault 100% that you're in that mood and that you say, oh, what else? I don't know anything else. I'm a mechanic, I don't know what else to do. Oh, fucking, become a florist. Okay, become a florist. Whatever, whatever makes you happy. Go get a job as a checkout chick for a little while. I had a mate. I think I may have shared this story before, but I had a mate did construction management at RMIT because it made a lot of money when you went out into the real world and he-.

Robby:

Lots of people do that by the way.

George:

Yeah, I know, yeah, but he did it like he was that way inclined. He's like, oh, I'll make good money, I'll be sweet. So did his construction management degree. He was a year below me at RMIT and then he went and got a job and it was at a tier two construction company and they just worked him Day one, they just gave it to him. They worked him so hard that he ended up hating and he was getting paid well, but he hated every single day that he went into the office. He hated it, didn't want anything to do with it. So much so that he quit and he went and worked. He loved fish, he loved fishing. He had an aquarium at home and he went and worked at an aquarium, a shop, a retail shop, an aquarium for two years and he fucking loved it. He went fishing whenever he want. He got to feed fish. He got to fucking eat fish. It was the greatest time he got to feed fish. He got to fucking eat fish. It was the greatest time he got to feed fish and eat fish.

Robby:

What a life. So he's feeding himself.

George:

He's feeding himself. He wasn't eating fish from the aquarium, that'd be freaky. But he'd take his weekends and he'd go fishing. He bought a little tinny, he went out on the beach and would fish. It was his happy place. He bought a little tinny, he went out on the beach and would fish and he just, it was his happy place. He wasn't making the same money, he was, but fuck, he was a completely different person. And then he came back to the industry. Again he did. Two years later he goes all right, I'm going to come back, give another go. But again he found the right company and he's been working ever since. When I say ever since, it's been over 10 years now. He's been working and he enjoys his job. He's having a really good time and I think that's a great example.

George:

He was able to remove himself from that and go. Fuck that. I'm just going to go work in an aquarium for two years and just whatever. It may not have even been that aquarium, it's just do something different, because it is your fault If you hate what you do every single day and you continue to do it. If you hate carpentry and you're there and you're hammering nails. It's cold today, like it was raining this morning and it's cold, it's windy and you don't like that, and that's you every single day. Remove yourself. Remove yourself from it. Don't be scared, okay, because it's much worse to stay in that mental state than what it is to move out and go do something else than what it is to move out and go do something else.

Robby:

What are you going to do when? What would you do if you had to leave and you're like I just need to go and do something, not for money, what?

George:

would you do Play video games? Would you really? I don't know, I don't know. I just, if it wasn't for money, I don't think it would be one specific thing I'm going to be like. I'm going to be painting or just boating or yeah, but I mean that could be fun, like I do a whole range of things, just as in I've got unlimited money or I just Money.

Robby:

It's not an object I think people have. We are so accustomed to what money is that we don't?

George:

understand a world without it. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's odd, isn't it? You're like what do you mean? Everything's free? How do you get stuff? Everything's?

Robby:

free.

George:

What would I do? Look, there'd be a level of me saying you know almost a stay-at-home dad, but that's only going to be for a little while. The kids are getting older now, so they're not going to really want a dad at home.

Robby:

You still have to do something.

George:

Yeah, I don't know what are you going to do all day I don't know I would probably do something outdoors, like sports of some sort water sports. Like I like boating, I like fishing. How many times have you been fishing in the last year? I haven't been fishing? Oh no, actually April Went fishing, caught three fish off a pier.

Robby:

Two months ago. Yeah, how many times before that, probably years Does a trout farm count? Yeah.

George:

Okay, a couple of years, it does A couple of years. Took the kids to a trout farm once. Freshwater yeah, freshwater fish isn't great eating.

Robby:

No, fish is great eating.

George:

No, there is good fish out there Good fish, I like salmon, not salmon. No good salmon, I like Atlantic salmon. It's nice Snapper, snapper's nice too.

Robby:

Thank you, not a big fish guy. I've heard Poor food. I've heard I'll eat it, but like it's not a, I'll never sit there Like oh, oh, how good.

George:

Yes, I do something outdoors. I reckon Outdoor type activities Could be even like. I enjoy driving.

Robby:

Do you do much of that now?

George:

No, not heaps, I mean I do with during summer. Yeah, With the water sports I do a fair bit of that, but during winter not as much.

Robby:

Yeah, fair enough.

George:

I think we're going to.

George:

It's going to be one of those things where you're going to be required to do more of that. Believer in working hard and pushing yourself and doing everything you possibly can, and I hate this concept of work-life balance as well. I teach it at trainings. I genuinely believe it. I don't think there's any such thing as work-life balance and people trying to maintain this work-life balance, having 50% work and 50% life. It's just not something, an equation that you should be trying to go for, because it's never going to be that. It's never going to be 50-50. You need to be focusing on what's the main priority at that time, and sometimes it is work, and you're going to have to be 80-20. You're going to have to work like an animal for a set amount of time.

George:

The problem that a lot of business owners particularly find themselves in is that work-life balance is work for 10 years and they forget about the life. They forget to take the holidays, they forget to take the time out, and it's just one battle to the next battle and it's like all blends into one and, before you know it, 10 years is over. So you really need to make that conscious effort to set the time aside for your life and for things that you want to achieve in your personal life. A really good thing that I like that I've seen that I try to do is almost plan out your holidays at the start of the year for the year. What are you going to do this year? What holidays are you going to go on? Are you going to do an overseas trip? Are you going to go little day trips, weekends, public holidays, long weekends, all that sort of stuff? Plan your trips at the start of the year. That way you always have something that you can look forward to, whether it's once a quarter or one really big three-month holiday, whatever it's going to be.

George:

I think that's critically important to being successful in business and in life, because during those holidays you are then focusing on the life. And it doesn't mean you can't do both, because there's times, especially as business owners, there's times when I've been on holidays I've been like fuck, got to get the laptop out, not fuck. I said hey, I've got to get the laptop out, and my wife knows that she said, hey, world doesn't stop because we're at the beach. That hey, world doesn't stop because we're at the beach. Go to the pool with the kids. I'll be there in an hour. I have to send these emails, I have to do this pay run, I have to do such and such, and then you can have that blend of the two as well. I think that's going to be pretty important, but no such thing as work-life balance, work-life priority.

Robby:

I agree.

George:

What would you do if money wasn't an issue? What sort of stuff would you be doing?

Robby:

You know what my biggest concern about this whole thing is, about which? The whole money not being a thing. I'll never get to be a billionaire. It's going to get taken away from me the opportunity. Yeah, that's my biggest concern about it yeah, it's kind of like a fuck damn didn't do it might actually be running out of time yeah, how funny, how funny like it might, that might be the part of life reality.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, it might actually happen. And and then it's like, well, you know, you had X amount of years and you didn't get it done.

George:

Do you reckon you'd be shitty if you were a billionaire and then all of a sudden, money didn't matter?

Robby:

No. So are you shitty if you're a billionaire and other people start winning? Yeah, exactly, I don't think most billionaires wouldn't be. Do you know what I mean? And I think the skills that equipped you to get to that point you're going to have with you forever, Forever, yeah.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean. Like it's like I don't know. Maybe you would look at other suckers and be like you know, like a lot of elderly people look at the younger generation and think you pricks. Maybe you would, because you think you guys had it easy. Yeah. You know what I mean. I had to fight for this, I had to work 23 hours a day, and now you all just get what you want. I would be pissed off 100%. I'm pissed off now, so what?

George:

would you do, huh? What would you do if money wasn't an?

Robby:

issue. I would do two things.

George:

This is my plan for if, when AI takes over and money's an issue and we're in utopia.

Robby:

If that happens. It's not guaranteed, but if it does go down that route, it's one of the highly possible routes, because think about, people haven't fathomed that the way life came together right. So at the start it was survival. You just need to go and eat, just go and eat. And then it was like, hey, man, I started gathering supplies, now we do the same, got all these berries, this guy's got this fish. I went and traded him some fish, some berries, and then it was like, okay, cool that the whole trading game or bartering started. And then it was like he had this, you had that, how do we? They created a universal currency, which is what money is. So it was survival. And then it was like, cool, now we have this original thing that we can.

Robby:

It kind of makes the trading game more even. It's called money or currency. And then it was like cool, well, you know, having money is really useful. I need people to do stuff, I need labor. So come work for me and I'll give you an exchange. I'll give you some money because we're able to create some sort of goods, products or service and go and exchange that for money and I'll give you a percentage of that, based on you being a worker for me, if all that other aspect goes away, like everything in life is handled, the buildings are being built, the food is being generated, the farming is done, everything is all done Money why would money exist? You know what I mean, even energy. They get so good at making sure that we can live off the solar Like that. We are so good at generating all our power from the sun that it's like why do we need to pay?

Robby:

for that Pay for that.

Robby:

Or we can pay for it and it costs fuck all, and the government covers the cost yeah, do you know what I mean? And it's like okay, and then covers the cost. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And it's like okay, and then that's universal basic income. Hmm, back to the question.

Robby:

When that happens, I'll do two things three, two, three things I'll do a lot of I'll do. I'll have something like this Like I'll probably sit down and talk to people because I like having interesting conversations, so I will probably podcast, just because I want to see that. I think people will always it'll get to the point. People want to watch people. Yeah, go the other way around. So I think that will be a thing. I think I could be wrong about that completely, and that completely contradicts what I said at the start of our YouTube. The other thing is I would game professionally, game professionally, game, oh, game G-A-M-E, yeah, yeah, I would game professionally. I would go and compete in FIFA comps, yeah, school, the world, and then I Some serious hours. I would just go do some outdoor. Well, you're going to have all the time in the world. That's what I mean.

Robby:

Yeah, do you know what I mean? And then I would just go do outdoor stuff, like I'd probably travel Australia or go to the US and travel the US. Just go and go hunting. Yeah, mainly going hunting. You know how they have dogs, but they're having an AI dog. Yeah, you're like, get him, you know what I mean. And this thing chases the fucking deer down and I would just do that Hunting, fishing outdoors and that's it. What else are you going to do? You know what I mean.

Robby:

Live your life, that's it. Live your life.

George:

What a life, well a bit of time will still pass between now and then, and we're living in a world of utopia.

Robby:

I think it is way sooner than people think That'd be cool, like everyone's thinking. Oh yeah, it's like 20 years away, 100 years. It's like it's not man, it's like the world's going to be a different place in two years.

George:

Yeah, it's going to be really interesting because I would love to play back episodes like this and say, hey, we said it. Then look at where it's at now.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, and I said it on stage the other day. Yeah, so I'm saying this for two reasons One, I hope someone takes action, and two, I want to be able to say I'm right, yeah, don't worry. I won't be able to say I told you so?

George:

Yeah, but imagine two years ago when we first started doing events and we were like who's heard of ChatJPT before? And like one or two people put their hands up Like who's ever used it and it's like less. And now it's like everyone has it as an app on their phone. Everyone uses it Young, old. They're all asking Chat to do things for them.

Robby:

Do you have the app?

George:

Yes, I do. Do you talk to it Not as much? Have you just had a conversation in the car? Yeah, I did I have. Yes, I remember talking about personal branding and just having a conversation back and forth with it whilst I was driving somewhere, but then I didn't continue the conversation thereafter, but I could always pick it up from that same conversation.

Robby:

It'd be weird if you kept the conversation going. You're like one sec and you're on the phone to an AI agent.

George:

So no, it is. It's cool. There's a level of that that I like. I mean, who was it? Tai Lopez was big on that. Where he goes, I'll just drive somewhere and I'll have a 45-minute conversation with the AI and just come up with ideas for business, for networking, for whatever it might be. He goes. I have all these conversations all the time. Yeah, becomes like a companion and I'm finding, like you know, when you ask, you'll ask Siri to do things or stuff like that. It's not as responsive as what ChatJPT is, though.

Robby:

Siri's not an.

George:

AI, it's not. It's more just a phone program.

Robby:

Yeah, siri says do you want me to look that up on ChatGPT? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right, it's not an LLM. Yeah, gotcha, that's not the same.

George:

Excellent, all right. Well, another episode down. What a day, what a chat. I think really important, because we're all going to experience stresses in our lives and I think you need to have mechanisms to be able to cope with those things. So, whatever it might be for you, whether it's practicing gratitude, whether it's an element of you removing yourself from the situation altogether, taking responsibility at the end of the day and actioning that, because if you are put into a bad mood, it's not necessarily your fault, but if you stay in a bad mood, it can very well be your fault. So take the action and just be happy, smile. What a life.

Robby:

And make some custard.

George:

Make heaps of custard. Make a custard and send it to Robbie, please.

Robby:

Hey, I'm making a pizza dough now. It's been resting in my fridge for two days already. Shit, it's going to be sick. Stay tuned, stay tuned. I've got the video coming.

George:

Awesome. All right guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Appreciate it and we'll see you next week. Thanks everyone, take care the baker. So you got a fucking parking ticket, do you know why? Excuse me, I reckon your permit had slid down, it's not? Oh, was it yeah, dude, was it yeah?

Robby:

Fuck Dude, I haven't touched my permit for fucking since I put it there. I reckon the cunt just fucking half asleep, didn't pay attention.

George:

Yeah, and it's not your fucking problem. Yeah, fuck them and shitcats. How's that, though? Like it's not often, they don't. They don't actually.

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