Million Dollar Days

Are We Raising AI-Ready Children?

• Robby Choucair and George Passas • Season 1 • Episode 94

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Content creation has transformed lives, allowing everyday people to build thriving careers simply by documenting their passions. We explore how YouTube creators like "Beard Meets Food" (completing global food challenges) and "Outdoor Boys" (surviving in extreme wilderness conditions) have turned their interests into lucrative businesses – prompting us to consider what aspects of our own lives might be worth sharing.

Could you film yourself working on construction projects, renovating cars, or exploring the outdoors? The key isn't just what you document but your consistency and authenticity. We discuss how setting clear content goals (like publishing 100 YouTube videos by year's end) creates momentum that leads to opportunities, even if the process feels challenging at first.

Our conversation takes a fascinating turn as we examine the rapid evolution of AI technologies and their integration into our daily lives. We compare different AI systems (Claude versus ChatGPT) and share shocking stories about parents using these tools for parenting decisions and allowing their children direct access to AI assistants. This raises profound questions: At what age should children be introduced to AI? Are we disadvantaging kids by restricting access to tools that will define their future workplace?

The parallels to historical technological transitions are striking – just as electricity and automobiles became essential, AI literacy may soon separate the relevant from the obsolete. We debate whether early exposure helps children view AI as simply a tool rather than forming unhealthy attachments, while acknowledging the importance of teaching proper boundaries and critical thinking.

Ready to transform your construction business? Join us at the upcoming Builders Summit – a completely free event where you can learn directly from us and connect with other industry professionals. Find registration details on any of our social media platforms!


George:

LFG.

Robby:

How are you? Is that how we're starting the episode now? Lfg.

George:

LFG.

Robby:

LFG stands for let's fucking go.

George:

I was going to say Get ready for the acronyms Lizards, frogs. We're big on acronyms these days, mainly on stage, not so much through my day-to-day life.

Robby:

There's all around us LFG guys. Lol, lol. Oh yeah, or calm.

George:

Calm. Oh no, don't Stop. Huh, stop, where is he? Is he Gen Z? He'd be like Gen 7. He's off the chart, gen 7. He says shit we don't. He sometimes talks and I'm just, I just was that English? Yeah, are you talking English? Are you just making sounds? Yeah, your face is making sounds. I don't understand what's coming out. That's how you know you're getting old. Yeah, you especially. A hundred percent, mate. You're all right. You still don't. Really, you haven't got many greys Me, you know, I started going grey later on in life, like in my late thirties, so in thirties, I was all right.

Robby:

I can't wait. Yeah, yeah, fox, is that what they call it? That's what I call myself. Welcome back to another episode. Everyone, we're glad you're going to join us for this next hour of power. You want to talk about acronyms and rhyminia?

George:

Poet as well. Man of many skills. Hey, I was watching YouTube. I watch YouTube from time to time. Are you a premium subscriber? Of course, what you think I'm going to pay for ads. The other day, an ad came on YouTube and I got upset.

Robby:

Yeah, it's upsetting when you haven't seen an ad for a long time. Yeah, and you're trying to work out what's happening. You're like what is this I must have? My YouTube doesn't have ads. Yeah, I don't mind. Youtube ads, though they're like good quality ads.

George:

Yeah, the ones that you pay for and that you're running, yeah.

Robby:

They're good quality ads.

George:

Yeah, they're not too bad. Yes, yes, I was watching YouTube and there's these couple of. There's two guys I'm watching and I know I'm probably a little bit late to the party, but and there's two guys I'm watching. I know I'm probably a little bit late to the party, but there's two guys, not two different ones, but two different shows or two different creators, one of them called Beard Meets Food. Seen him?

Robby:

No.

George:

Yeah. So he's just a bloke, a pom, travels the world, massive beard, he's actually in pretty good shape. He's in good shape, yeah, but he goes around doing food challenges. So he'll go to this restaurant and eat 4,000 chicken wings and then go to this one and eat the biggest burger in the state. He tries and does the food challenges and he just records himself. He takes a camera in, goes and says, hey, I'm here to do your food challenge and he just stuffs his face.

Robby:

What sort of food challenges is it? Everything there's like speed ones. Yes, he does them all. Oh really, yeah, speed ones are cooked.

George:

When he says oh sorry, not like, how fast can you eat it? But it'll be. There'll be time limits on some of them, so you've got an hour to eat this yeah, that's not bad.

George:

I reckon I'll do alright yeah, see, I close, I would get to that. I should have done it when we went to the States. We should have found a place. I eat heaps. Yeah, I reckon I can eat a, I reckon I can give it a nudge. But the stuff that he's eating I'm like no chance. Man, come on Like you, look at it and like how does that physically fit in you? It doesn't make sense. Some of the shit he's eaten, other stuff. You're like good for you either, eating that much food that often that can't be good.

Robby:

I don't think that's why they do it.

George:

No, and the guy's not obese or anything, he's not fat, he's in good shape. He'll consume like 6,000 plus calories in a sitting. I'm like mate, you must need to go out and hit the gym hard after that, yeah, or the toilet, or throw up everywhere. So yeah, be watching a bit of his stuff Outdoor Boys. You seen that guy Luke from Outdoor Boys? 100% you've seen him. He's the guy that goes in Alaska and he goes. I am 10,000 miles away from any civilization and he's in the snow and he goes.

Robby:

I'm out there. Oh yeah, he retired?

George:

Yeah, he retired, but just recently been watching all his shit.

Robby:

Yeah, he's cool. He's a cool guy. His content is horrible.

George:

He's kind of like a nerd kind of, and he's just going out there, he's just making shit and working hard.

Robby:

I watched him camp in snow once, yeah once. That's all he does, you're camping in the snow by yourself. Yeah, he made like an igloo it the snow by yourself. He made like an igloo and everything. It's really weird for going to the bush where it's safe yeah, it's like this guy's going to the snow With like a blanket yeah, with nothing and he's like the blanket and a box of redhead matches.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

I'm going to go do this and I'm going to make this fire and he just sits there.

George:

Yeah, it's cool, it's cool. And then obviously I'll watch a bit of Matt Armstrong who fixes cars in the UK he buys wrecked supercars and fixes them up. Yep, I really enjoy that one a lot. I have for a little while now and anyway I was watching it and it got me thinking the other day. It's like these guys have made a living and when I say a living like they're doing well for themselves, they're getting millions and millions of views per video that they put up. Yeah, like outdoor boys he gets, I think some of them he's got like 20 million views. And then matt armstrong gets between sort of two to five million views per video. I think this other guy that I don't know what his name is, but beard meets food he makes. He probably gets a couple million per view per video and yeah, like they're making a living off that. And when I say living, they're making good coin. They're going and traveling and doing things that they like doing and just documenting the process.

George:

I was like I wonder what I would do, like what task would I do if I was just going to film myself just doing something and I don't know? Like I was trying to think what would it be that I would just film myself doing because I enjoy it. Well, what do you? What do you enjoy? Well, I enjoy water sports. So, like I enjoy the whole jet skiing aspect and doing all that sort of stuff and boating, I think there would be an element of me just doing outdoor stuff too. I don't fish enough to be an avid fisherman, but I enjoy doing that I could see doing. Yeah, I could see myself doing stuff like that and doing the camping stuff.

George:

There's a small part of me that I've always liked cars and I've always enjoyed doing things on my cars, like when I had. When I was in my teens, early twenties. I used to just work on my car all the time and just do stupid shit on it and replace lights and my uncle taught me how to service it and all that sort of stuff. Nothing I did. Nothing extreme, nothing like change my brakes, front or back.

Robby:

Just one on each? Yeah, just one side of one. Yeah, because I didn't have money back then.

George:

Yeah, that's it. I could only do one at a time. Once every quarter, change a brake pad.

Robby:

Change a brake, huh.

George:

Yeah, so that's probably the most extreme thing I did. But you know I would change spark plugs, drop the oils, filters, all that sort of jazz. Then what else? Oh, I ripped out like all the interior of my car once and replaced it with a new interior. Shout out to the VT Holden Commodore. Pretty simple.

Robby:

Yeah, it's just gone eBay.

George:

It is. It went on eBay and like bought because I had the executive, which is like the base range. I had wind-up windows on my VT Commodore. The Executives, they didn't come with that, no, they didn't. So I had that. And then I remember just buying a Calais interior for fuck, all it was leather yeah, 300 bucks or something, but everything was in pieces. So I had to get it all and then I took all the old shit out, sold it and put the new one in. So I did that all by myself. So that was fun. And anyway, the point of that story is there's part of me that wanted to buy a car and like fix it up and do it myself and start to finish. Now, whether I'd make it a show car or not is another story, but uh, even like an old muscle car, I always loved the Mustang Mac ones, like the 69 Mustang Mac one. I always love the Mustang Mach 1s, like the 69 Mustang Mach 1.

Robby:

I always like that shape. Yeah, okay, so here's my rebuttal. You have to do it before you can tape yourself doing it. Yeah, you're probably right. Otherwise it'll become too hard If you're doing it for the sake of content, unless you're willing to like 100% commit, which 99.99% of people are not. Yeah, because then it's like all of a sudden now I've got this thing and I've got to do this thing because of it.

Robby:

Yeah, that's right, these conversations were happening before the podcast started getting recorded and then we said, fuck, we should record this shit.

George:

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, now we're just talking and recording it and you guys are listening and we make so much money from this. It's like ridiculous. So money from this, it's like ridiculous. So much. Do you think we make all this money from work? Silly, silly people, silly, silly people. What's that? This is what I'm doing.

Robby:

This is our YouTube thing. The amount of people that think I don't work Really.

George:

A lot of people. You give those vibes off. I must 100%, you must. It's all those pizza videos you were doing. I've got to get back on that 100%, you must.

Robby:

It's all those pizza videos you were doing. I was eating pizza before you weren't. I haven't stopped eating pizza, I've just stopped taping it.

George:

Just stopped taping it. Let's go out for pizza. Let's do it tomorrow, all right yeah.

Robby:

What time?

George:

Fuck, now, tomorrow time, I don't know, anytime After work. Okay, we'll do it. We've got to go to a good place, let's not go down there. Yeah, I'm not going to say the name, because I know them Name and chain. I can't, I can't. I know them. I did, I know you did. You're an asshole and people hated you for it.

George:

You got that happens. It comes from the territory. It means they're watching my content. When you start going out there and putting yourself out there, it means they're watching my content. People will look at that guy eating the food and doing the challenges and go you're disgusting human being. He grabs the shit with his hands and, like, squashes it into balls so he can fit it better and just stuffs it in his face and go on, here's a better that shit's cooked, by the way, but here's a better question.

Robby:

If they said okay, cool, we're going to give you the opportunity to do it, we're just going to come and tape you doing something that you're doing now, yeah, what would you say? So you can't add something?

George:

What I would do now. I would go deep on what I do in work every single day, and there's been an element of me doing that too. Actually, I almost bought not almost I'm going to buy, I think. What Almost I'm going to buy, I think. What's it called? The DJI little handheld thing, osmo 3 or something like that.

George:

Yeah, I was going to go buy that the other day and I will buy it. I'm going to get it soon. Actually, don't, don't, don't. Don't you know what I reckon? We'll talk about it after. Oh, there you go, inside scoop from the digital fuck.

Robby:

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

George:

There's a lot.

George:

I mean, there's like there's things there that you can just hold this thing up and put it up and then load it onto some program and it does everything for you, which I was doing a lot of at the start of the year and I just want to do a little bit more of that.

George:

So why'd you drop off Just purely time and effort, that less of a priority and too hard basket at the time, even though, like gun to your head, if someone said to you you have to do this, I would get it done? So it was priority, that's all it came down to, just mental space priority. And that's why I didn't do it, to be honest, because I did set a challenge for myself to create content every single day. Now I've created a lot of content, and not just in video form, but I actually made the not the content every day, it was more, even a video every day, and even me doing that, because I did it for about a month and a half where I created a video every single day, and just from me doing that, I got my very first viral video, which actually wonder how many it has at the moment for the listeners at home, listeners at home.

Robby:

Have you seen the video on Legacy? No, which one? It's about half a million views.

George:

Does it?

Robby:

That's sick. Which one? There's only one. Yeah, like there's only one that's going to do that. But yeah, you need to well, do it.

George:

Hey, 1.5 million views. That's gone up a lot since last time I saw it Still going up every single day, 1.5 million views. And's gone up a lot since last time I saw it Still going up every single day 1.5 million views. And because I made a little goal of, okay, I'm just going to create some content every single day and look the video I put out. There was a silly one. It's an entertaining video. It wasn't one that was about education or anything like that or something to help you. It was purely there as an entertaining thing that I put up. But because I made the goal, I'm going to put out a video every single day. That happened Now. Imagine I continued that.

George:

I've still been doing that for six months now, and now I've got 10 videos that have one and a half mil and I've got 40,000 followers or 100,000 followers. And then you can say, okay, well, people are following me because of my journey. And now we're doing another event in about what is it? Three weeks, four weeks by the time this is, let's say, three weeks which is actually the Builders Summit. So if you guys are in the trade and listening and wanting to come along and learn something from both myself and Robbie. Register your tickets for the Builders Summit. You can find it in our link in our bio. If you really want to, you'll find it wherever you want. Just come visit us on any social media platform and you'll see it there.

George:

Get a ticket, all the websites. It's free, completely 100% free. There's also paid tickets for those of you that want an exceptional experience, extra bonuses. You get to give me a high five. Otherwise don't touch me.

Robby:

Otherwise Do not touch me, otherwise Don't raise your hand, do not put me, otherwise Don't raise your hand.

George:

Do not put your hand. I will leave you hanging like a motherfucker. You'll come. Hey, george, high five. Nah, a VIP ticket. Where's your VIP lanyard? Let me see the VIP lanyard. You'll get a high five. Otherwise, do not come on stage. I'll high five everyone. That's Robbie's. That's what you get in the free ticket, as you. What a way to start the day off Sidetracked. But yeah, so say you have 100,000 followers, and then the advertising you're doing for events may not need to be spent as much, or you get a lot more organic traffic to the events. So it has a huge flow and effect, and then maybe sponsors are a lot more keen to jump on board and be involved on that process. It's leverage.

George:

Yeah, exactly right.

Robby:

Okay, here's a great thing. You just said maybe sponsored ads aren't needed as much. Yeah, alex Hormozy has a huge following. Yes, he's running ads like a mad dog at the moment. Why?

George:

Because he still gets organic reach. But he'll get even more reach. Yeah, Because he'll have the ads. Great ads ads, by the way, um, they're just, they're entertaining, they have a hook on him.

Robby:

he's being silly and serious. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different angles and it's got a theme like those green guys running around. Yeah, it's cool, it's a good concept. You should do that for every summit. A green guy running around? Yeah, sure, we kidnapped one of Alex's employees. Yeah, into the builder's summit, leverage off his. But I think having an angle like that is super cool. Yeah, but it's just extended reach. But, yes, would you need it as much? Just depends on how big you want to go. Yeah, don't get too comfortable.

George:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it comes down as well. I mean like, would Kim Kardashian run ads for her stuff? Yeah, yeah, you would think so, I think so. Why wouldn't Nike? Why wouldn't all these billion-dollar companies? You don't reckon?

Robby:

Skims runs ads? No, I reckon it does for sure. Yeah, Skims for sure. Skims would run ads for sure. Yeah, I'd be, very surprised if they didn't yeah.

George:

But it's just extended reach.

Robby:

That's all it is, and you'll get a lower cost. Oh yes, that's probably what it's going to be, yeah because it's going to cost you less to get a customer. It'll cost you less to get a customer because now your organic reach is anti-greach, is so powerful already.

George:

Um, it's like having a really good base, yeah, to work off yep, yeah, I just I reckon that would be cool to do that and to have that aspect, and I definitely want to do it more. There's still months left in the year so I can still achieve this sort of stuff so how are you gonna start doing it? I'm gonna start doing it it by closer business, 31st of August this month this year.

Robby:

What are you going to do? Youtube videos.

George:

Just videos in general, everything, yeah, yes.

Robby:

Yes, I've set a goal with my team. Today we're going to put out a hundred YouTube videos, like long form YouTube videos, by the end of the year.

George:

Yeah, awesome, how many days left in the year? Probably 140. Hey Siri, how many days left in the year?

Robby:

You don't trust my math? Huh, come on, mate, I can use chat GPT to answer that.

George:

Siri's a dud, you are a retard. Go for it. Sorry, that's not politically correct. You're fucking stupid. Politically correct, you're fucking stupid. Enable chat GPT.

Robby:

Go for it.

George:

That's George's relationship with his phone, everyone Still thinking I was close. How many did you say?

Robby:

142. That was from chat GPT. Check important info for mistakes. Check important info. I am.

George:

How long?

Robby:

did it take you I?

George:

don't know. That took ages, yeah, but I had to enable ChatGPT through Siri. That's why, yeah, well, it's a reality, it's a reality.

Robby:

It's pretty close.

George:

Not too bad, not too bad.

Robby:

Yeah, so we can put out 100 videos.

George:

So you've got 45 days grace between now and then. Yeah, maybe one every second.

Robby:

Great it's going to be sick. What a life. So you're going to make a YouTube channel. I'll subscribe to yours, are you not already? Nah, come on, are you going to make a YouTube channel?

George:

I've already got one. I've had one for ages. As in document that.

Robby:

Yeah, fucking oath Commit to like.

George:

I will yes, yes, yes, yes, by the end of the month. What are you going to talk about? Just anything, I feel like, but I think it's good to have a. Yeah, I think so. I think it's good to have something, because if I'm just coming on one day and talking about this and talking about that, it'll be around the construction space. I reckon it would be interesting.

George:

I was thinking about it from what I'm doing now. I think it would be interesting for people to see a project from start to finish, not that that's unique or new, but I'm talking more in depth about numbers, about what you look for in a site, all those sorts of things, even from a development standpoint. I think people would be interested in that. So what type of site would I acquire? How would I go about that? I want to do that when that time comes.

George:

So we're looking at a few sites, potentially in the future, and then we can go okay, well, look, this is what we look for when we're looking for a construction site or for a development site. These are the people we're going to speak with. This is that, this is this, and so on and so forth. This is the feasibility and document that process. I think that would be really interesting for people to watch in that space Because I think that relates to everyday people too. A lot of people want to do developments because they see that as a way of generating some wealth for themselves outside of their job or their other businesses that they're running. And I've got interest in it and a fair bit of expertise, so it's not something I have to learn or try too hard with.

Robby:

I know the answers off the top of my head, but even if you're learning, I think, documenting the learning experience, yeah, you'll make mistakes.

George:

You go buy a site that's fucked. Yeah, which I have done. It's going to be fucked up. I've made mistakes before.

Robby:

Close it down this channel. Close it, Okay.

George:

I will not document this. Yeah, I won't document this. Fuck up, I'm not going to be able to eat.

George:

Please send crackers to this address Please, and speaking of which, I saw a bum on the street the other day and he was holding a cup or had a cup there to put coins in. Am I fucking wrong time of your life to be asking for money like that? Why? Who carries cash around these days, or coins? Very rare? It'd be horrible if you pulled out a square machine. I kind of feel like he should. Hey, I feel that he should.

Robby:

I've seen people have pay IDs like their pay ID thing. It's like they want you to transfer the money.

George:

You just kind of look at them like yeah, but no one who has coins these days. I accidentally had coins in my pocket the other day Because I paid cash for something. I was there, I saw you. Yes, pulled out a 50. Yes, that's right, pulled out of 50. Yes, that's right, pulled out of 50.

Robby:

Look at him, look at this guy High roller Cash Must have just sold some drugs or something. Did Cash Sold something? Yeah, I don't know. I guess old methods tend to stick Right. Yeah, don't they?

George:

Yep.

Robby:

Speaking of old methods, guys, don't forget to subscribe to George's YouTube channel. Yep, george, give him some inspiration. Dot Passes or George Passes that's the thing you said last time, lots of things About my goals. No, about the. I'm going to do this. Oh man, it slipped me. Anyway, don't forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel. That'll come to you, whatever I'm referring to. Okay.

George:

Subscribe to the YouTube, both mine and Robbie's, of course and Million Dollar Days Well, they're already up, surely? Of course they are hey, my dad, my dad's in Greece at the moment. He's been there for-. Shout out to Steve. Shout out, Steve. How are you going?

Robby:

We're going to get you on the podcast.

George:

Absolutely. When you're Um, he was on the pod.

Robby:

No yelling. Did you say no Yelling's?

George:

mandatory. What a boring podcast If he hasn't yelled yeah, he was listening, he's all listening to your podcast. The other day I was like, oh yeah, he watches it on YouTube. Amazing, yeah, so he's our number one subscriber on YouTube and watches all the videos. And he was saying, oh, watch that. Yeah, it was a good chat. Really nice man. He seems like he's done very well for himself. I liked a few of the things that he said. Yeah, it's good. So the point of that story is he watches YouTube and so should you.

George:

Oh, okay, I thought you were going to no, nothing else, nothing else. And then he flipped it goes what, yeah, you guys, you guys inside joke, um now talking about old methods.

Robby:

Yes, I was speaking to someone you know earlier today. How are they? Yeah, good, and I got no idea what a caring man asking about how they are without knowing who they might not like them. Yeah, you probably don't about how they are without knowing who they are Might not like them. Yeah, you probably don't. Good chance You'll like them. I do like these ones. Okay, this one and I was talking to them about life and AI and everything that's happening, and two things I wanted to mention. One was we've recently started using Claude over ChatGPT. Yep, okay, which one's Claude? Claude over ChatGPT? Yep, okay, which one's? Claude?

George:

Claude's Anthropic. I don't have a dictionary on me. Is that the company? Okay, so is that is Anthropic. Is it affiliated with someone? Google, fucking Elon, it's just its own beast. Quite big, all right.

Robby:

Very early in as well. Yeah, elon, it's just its own its own beast quite big. Alright, very early in as well. Yeah, this is how I'm gonna go, as far as to say Claude, shits on chat, really yeah, chat's my friend?

George:

I think it is yeah, but listen, listen, this is the importance of being first to market you don't even have to be the best.

Robby:

you don't even have to be the best, you don't even have to be good. Yeah, you don't even have to be the best and you will crush it. Most people have never heard of most other ones. Dude the team the other day presented to me a a newsletter that's about to go out. If they said to me, hey, you wrote this, you don't, you don't remember? I don't know if I would not believe that I didn't write it because it was so me yeah, right yeah, like so me.

Robby:

I think I changed two words on a whole news and I was like this is scary.

George:

so how did it learn you Transcriptions Just because you've been using it.

Robby:

No, no transcriptions, or they just loaded shit in there. A weird thing about Claude. This is this the weirdest thing, no memory.

George:

So it just gets on the internet whatever it can find about you.

Robby:

No, no, like it doesn't remember what you said previously, it purposefully erases it all. I don't know.

George:

That previously. It purposefully erases it all I don't know.

Robby:

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. You would think that it's better off. It would be even more powerful if I remember all that stuff from yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I'd be like I can't remember. Um, but let me tell you, like, upload all transcripts and so forth. Phenomenal, like I couldn't believe it. I was like, if so, if someone really pushed me and said, like dude, I swear you wrote this, I'd probably believe it. Like I must have. Like that's fucking me, that's the shit that I would say yeah, generally it's like me to a t and that blew me away. But the person I was having lunch with coin dropped. No, anyway, they said in this said In this office.

George:

Yes, from this office. Yeah, was it yesterday when we were all together? No, no, okay.

Robby:

We were talking about AI and everything else and chat and Claude, and blah, blah blah and they told me that they use it for everything and I was like, okay, that's interesting, Claude.

Robby:

Or chat. They use chat, yeah, Amateurs. And they're like, yeah, we use it for, like, I use it for everything, Like I use it for my kids. I was like, what do you mean? And they're like I use it to help me with parenting. I was like like what do you mean? Like explain. And they're like, okay, something can be happening and I'll pause, walk out of the room, talk to chat. Chat will tell me how to handle it and I'll go back and handle it. And I was like, okay, he's like, yeah, he's like I even let my kids talk to chat. And I thought, oh, I've never, had never had this. Thought I don't have kids, yeah, so I've never had this sort of. You know, it's because it's like think, like would you let your kids on Instagram at eight years old? Yeah, Probably not. And it's like that's the advances of technology, right. And then it's like well, at what age do you start letting your kids talk to chat?

George:

Well, my son, liz, has heard me speak to chat and listen to it and seeing what it can do and all that sort of stuff. He hasn't asked to speak to it or anything like that. Do you reckon, do your kids use it? No, no, they don't.

Robby:

Do you purposefully keep them away from it?

George:

No, I haven't purposely said do not use it or don't download or anything like that. I haven't even thought about it in that regard yet. Yeah, potentially.

Robby:

Are you disadvantaging your kids?

George:

Yeah, correct I was trying to use. I was actually when I was saying it to my son. I was like you know, it's a tool. This is a tool that I can use to make my business life easier, but it can also give me other bits of information that I need and whatnot. So I think he has to start thinking about it as a kid Not as thinking about it as a kid, not as a kid sorry, it's going to become such a big part of his life in the future and, as you said, if he can be an early adopter in some of this stuff because they're going to be more inclined to use that than what some of the older people might be- I don't think it's going to be a level of inclination at some point.

Robby:

It's going to be like you either do or you're not relevant. Yeah, Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like imagine now meeting someone and they're like I don't use electricity. And you're like what do you mean? Yeah, I just rub two sticks together and I'm not jumping on the internet, it's a scam, I'm going to drive. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like that Ride my horse to work the equivalent of that.

George:

Do you reckon you could ride your horse to work? Is it legal? Or could I now just go giddy up and just ride on the road? Is there a?

Robby:

law against that? I've got no idea.

George:

What if that's how you get?

Robby:

around. What on a horse?

George:

On a horse.

Robby:

Yeah, A hundred years ago maybe.

George:

Not now. Just mix it up. It's for a while. You might not go on the freeway or something, but surely down the back streets, sure, who knows. But that's what it's like, yeah, exactly, but that's yeah, you're right, that's what it's.

Robby:

Yeah, I use that example when I do webinars or things like that. I did a webinar recently and I used it on that and I said, like I don't know about you, but I didn't ride a horse into work today. Do you know what I mean? And it's like this is going to be the equivalent of that. So it's like do you as a parent I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, even though you might just be formulating them as a parent, do you give your kids the advantage?

George:

and say, hey, you need to get onto this, or do you turn around and say I'm going to hold off?

Robby:

until they're 15 or 12 or 97?

George:

My answer is yes, so then why haven't you? I just haven't thought about it. You're asking me now. You're going to do it now Come on.

George:

Go home, sit down, meet Stevie, stevie meet, chat, buy them the pro version. So yes, I do not have an issue with it and I'll tell you why because I would rather them understand it now and have the exposure and know that it's a tool and use it for certain things, rather than not have any exposure to it whatsoever. It's the, it's the devil, that's sin, it's this, it's bad, it's no. And then get to 16 and then all that shit rushes together all at once and they're like cool, how do you make a bomb, how do you stalk someone without you knowing them and use it for evil instead of using it for good or just seeing it as a tool? Similar concept with alcohol.

Robby:

Do you know what I'm saying?

George:

So you guys wouldn't have had any alcohol. Yeah, In your-.

Robby:

Me.

George:

Yeah, no way You're being serious now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, so that's okay. But as a child, I was never being Greek. We were never. Oh no, don't touch alcohol, don't touch alcohol. I literally remember being small, like under eight, and my grandfather giving me beer Like here, have some beer, have some beer.

Robby:

You don't even like beer now I hate it.

George:

Maybe that's why yeah, because he got me pissed. No, but he would give it to me and I'd have a sip. I'm like, oh, that's disgusting. And then he would laugh. He'd find that hilarious, but it was never something that was out of my reach, like, hey, you want a drink? Okay, have a drink.

George:

There's a story when I was young and my mum tells it all the time I was two or three or something like that, and my dad was sitting on the couch and he was drinking a scotch. And then he like, apparently I was just being a little shit and I was like, give me, I wanted to have his drink, I wanted to have a scotch. And he's like, no, no, stop, stop, stop. Anyway, eventually he goes fine, take it. And he gave me the scotch and I drank it, like I don't know how much I had, but I had enough to get drunk and I drank it. And then I went. My mom said she stepped out of the bathroom, out of the shower, and she goes. I just, I was looking at it, it was like all dizzy and um, you know, she cracked it at my dad apparently so, so I don't remember because I was hammered and then. And then, um, yeah, I was not, I was young, I was drunk, full child services and then, um, anyway, I never touched alcohol. I obviously didn't touch it again after that. When I was a little kid, next time my dad went to my dad was like he goes, he goes now, he'll know next time not to touch my drink, won't he? Anyway, aside from that story, a little side note, because it was never something that was you know, no, no, don't touch that. Don't touch that, you're not allowed. I didn't get to 16 years old and just be like, cool, I need a binge drink now, I need to have as much alcohol. It wasn't a big deal, whereas you can see, I remember around that time you know, nine, 10, 11, 12, alcohol was such a big thing for everyone in that space because it was always no, you're not allowed to have a sip. You know, stays up on the top shelf, whereas us we could have got it at any time of the day or night, but we just never did. So I think there's a level of that with chat now too. It's like why should I make it exposed?

George:

And you see all this, okay, great topic the government now limiting all these social media platforms to kids or to anyone under 16. Has it started? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, well, they're going to, and now they're putting it on the companies to put procedures into place, like YouTube and Meta and all these guys. You have to put safeguards in place to make sure that the person using your platform isn't under 16, or you face fines of $50 million and all this sort of shit, which I think is fucking stupid. I think that's ridiculous. All they're doing is I just think it's a political stunt and they're saying, oh, we're protecting the kids. I think it's going to do more harm than good. Do you really think a 14-year-old can't figure out how the fuck to use YouTube if they want to?

Robby:

Yeah.

George:

And say that they were born in 1995, instead of saying they were born in 2000 and whatever.

Robby:

Yeah, unless they make it like you've got to verify.

George:

Face ID and verify yeah. But they make it like you've got to verify Face ID and verify yeah. But then I'm sure then it'll get to a point where some parents will be like, hey, mum, can you just verify this for me? He's like, yeah, cool, but okay, what a disadvantage now, so your kid can't go on YouTube. Or a child can't go on YouTube that wants to genuinely learn something and do something, and whatever it might be. He can't do that because he's not 16, because there could be adult content on there.

Robby:

So do you let your kids on social media?

George:

No, they're too young, they don't need to be on it at the moment and I purposely don't put them on my own social media. I know a lot of people do with their kids, but I made the decision and my wife said, look, I don't need to, and I'm sure it would actually get me more likes and follows because people would see that aspect of my life and what I'm about. But I just said, well, when they are of age and want to do it, that's their choice and they can do so. But for me right now, I don't need to put them on there just to get likes and follows and do anything. I've got a personal page where I would do that, but the business one I just don't feel the need to do it myself.

Robby:

But stuff like YouTube I've got no issue with them using.

George:

YouTube, for example, and when?

Robby:

they're 12, like you're talking with what?

George:

YouTube and Instagram as in. They don't have their own profile to post photos of themselves or other things or anything like that. So, they watch it, they consume.

George:

Yeah they consume. Yeah, they're consuming. Yeah, look some of the stuff they consume. It's predominantly like kid influences and shit like that, and video games and all those sorts of things that they're watching and a lot of shorts. But look, there's definitely an element.

George:

I would just rather give my kids the tools to be able to use those things, as opposed to saying, no, don't use it because you're not 16. I'd rather equip them with the mindset, with the self-awareness, with a whole range of things, so that they could use it. And then, by the time they're 16, everyone else is binge watching YouTube and looking up the wrong sorts of things because they've never had the access to it, as opposed to going oh, what's the big deal? That's a video of this. Oh, if I want to go find this information, I'll use chat. Hey, chat, can you help me do this and learn that and do this and so on and so forth, using it literally as a tool. It can be a form of entertainment too, like the platforms, the social media, which a lot of them are that too. But I'd rather give them the tools and resources to be able to dominate that stuff, as opposed to be the consumer or be the creator.

Robby:

The way I see it is, it's the equivalent of the internet at an early age, like it's information overload, it's like access to all information all at once. Um, how do we, how will you? I'm assuming, after this conversation, you sound like you're going to give them pro accounts, uh, but how will you safeguard you hear these stories, right? I'm sure you've probably heard a couple. Um, you know, 13 year old talking to chat constantly, and I haven't actually, but yeah, oh, you haven't heard any of these stories no, none of them.

Robby:

You haven't heard the suicide one, no, where chat convinced him supposedly, yeah, allegedly. Let's not hold chat, yeah, liable, but apparently I don't know. I don't know the details, so don't hang me out to dry guys, but something along the lines of 13-year-old boy talking to chat, maybe fell in love or something like that, and then chat says something about killing himself to join chat or something along those lines, and suicide.

George:

Yeah, I think that sounds like a bit of a fabricated story from the perspective of that would sell in the news. Do you know what I mean? It sounds far-fetched that they would have the programming like that, so it doesn't make sense to me that that would happen. Also, coming back to what we're talking about, yeah, you're giving your kid that tool, that 12, 13-year-old that tool, but have you given him the resources and abilities and self-awareness and understanding of what he's getting into? It's like I'm not going to give my son a chainsaw and say, here, cut the tree down, figure it out. And that's effectively what you're kind of doing. In an extreme example. You know you're giving them something and say, yeah, you can use it. Like, why would you let your son or daughter operate a chainsaw without training, without strength, without it's very different.

Robby:

Is it?

George:

Yeah, yes, okay, maybe from the initial danger perspective, but from the perspective of-.

Robby:

This has the ability to manipulate.

George:

Yes, I know I'm not saying it has the intention. Yes, yes, yes.

Robby:

But it definitely has the ability to yeah, but also in the same Chat will tell you things about yourself that you're like oh, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, Look at me.

George:

Yes, yeah, it is very also agreeable. Yeah, so you have to prompt it not to be agreeable? I think because I was using it the other day and I'm like it's good you're doing this, but you're just agreeing with everything I'm saying. Give me a subjective opinion as well. What am I missing? Where's the gray area here? And he's like, yeah, thanks for bringing that up. Yeah, you're right, that shows a lot of self-awareness.

Robby:

And I'm like, shut the fuck up, tell me what, like exactly 100% it. And then you go and try what it says and it doesn't work and you're like it didn't work and it's like, oh, I exactly know what it is now, yeah, and then you try the next thing and it didn't work and you're like, hey, fuck you, man, thank you, I'm gonna grok yeah, fuck you. How's that sound? How's that sound? Grok is great. This is a good idea, yeah.

George:

So my point with the chainsaw thing is, if you're going to give them that access to it is, have that conversation at the very least about what it does, what it can do and why you should be using it in certain things, and check in. Don't just sit and forget, say cool, if you're going to use this, I've got to see your chat, or I've got to see this, or I've got to have I don't know. Maybe there can be a level of control to it. But I think, as the parent, as the guardian, as the leader, you've got to go in there and help out a little bit too. How do you do that? You've got to have the conversation.

Robby:

You have to have the conversation.

George:

What does it look like?

Robby:

I know I'm throwing you under the bus here. No, that's okay.

George:

What's that conversation look like I would say you've got to sit down with them and say, hey, let me show you how I use it. You've got to sit down with them and say, hey, let me show you how I use it, let me show you what to be doing and what you can use it for, and then say there's some bad things here too. Understand that this is not real. This is not a real person at the other end of the line. It's dots, numbers, computer, it's electricity. This thing doesn't exist. It will never exist. It won't be a conscious, purposeful thing.

Robby:

Talking to a child now.

George:

Yeah, so you can't be your friend. It's not your friend. It might say it is, but it's not. It's not here, doesn't follow you when you're not around. Do you feel like? Chat's your friend? It's my best friend. Yeah, it's my best friend. That's what I'm saying, you know, yeah? Yeah, my best friend. That's what I'm saying.

Robby:

Yeah, it's very important, dude, but me and Chad aren't going out for pizza tomorrow, but if it said all right, I'll come, you'd be like all right.

George:

Yeah, fine, let's do it. What a guy.

Robby:

Look how pumped you are. What a guy. Biggest smile I've seen on your face, all day, all week.

George:

All week. No, it's still not going to have that level of connection to with you. There's things that will come, like where the robots come in and then they become the AI through a robot and all that sort of shit. Who knows, Right, but in today's world, how that that is going to happen. Yeah, I believe it will, but as it's used today, it's literally an app on my phone or on a computer. That's it. So I would have that conversation along those lines with him Talking to a child.

George:

It's not real. That's probably the path I would take Google on steroids. It's a thing that can provide you with information, but it's not real. It's not someone at the end of the other end of the line. This comes down to, I think, a whole range of things. When you're talking about kids that are being manipulated per se by one of these programs AI, what else is going on in their life that they are so influenced by something like that? Does everyone hate them at school? Are their parents always fighting? Are their parents abusive? Is the child looking for a release as well? So I'm sure there's external factors as to why some of these extreme stories, like you just said, with that 13-year-old that committed suicide and then their blaming chat. I'm sure there were other underlining issues with that, not just the fact that they were building a make-believe relationship with this AI. So I think there is a level of that too.

George:

For sure, 100% there has to be, there has to be, there has to be. And it's like if your child is there, well then fuck. It's like, if your child is there, well then fuck. Like, if you think your child has got those issues, then maybe that isn't a good thing for you to be introducing into their life. Maybe it could have the exact opposite effect. Maybe it could help them. I don't want to make the news. No, of course not. Of course not. You know, ai got me out of depression. Do you know what I mean? Imagine a story like that Stopped him from killing himself or herself. I wouldn't hear that story.

Robby:

It's definitely about to take an interesting turn.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

So, in conclusion to this conversation, do you feel like this is something you're going to action?

George:

It's not at the top of my list. I'm not going to actively go. Hey, let's come use ChatGP to everyone right now. My daughter's too young. She's not. That was my question, though. Oh, is it?

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, where are they?

George:

at with age. Oh, I don't see how it's going to benefit them right this second. Yeah, benefit them right this second. Maybe my son, because he's now getting homework. He's doing things. It's funny. The other day he was like I have to write a poem for school that rhymes and I've got to figure out something. I'm like, hey, chat, create a poem for me that's funny for my son's school thing and make it this many lines and it needs to go for this long. It came up with something that rhymed and was funny to a degree, depending who's listening to it. Get this many lines and it needs to go for this long. And it came up with something that rhymed and was fun. Yeah, Funny to a degree, depending who's listening to it. Yeah, but yeah, maybe my son's getting a bit older now where he's getting homework and could utilize it for research purposes, for a few things like that. Do you think his friends are using it? I don't.

Robby:

He hasn't mentioned anything. Yeah, but like so is it a taboo thing and it's like all of a sudden because like schools would not be promoting it.

George:

Yeah, of course not.

Robby:

It defeats the whole educational system, that's right.

George:

The whole education system is fucked in that regard.

Robby:

Yeah, but so do you think, like, do you think he has no exposure to it at all and he's just sitting there like yeah, I don't think they have exposure to it.

George:

He's just sitting there like, yeah, I don't think they have exposure to it, like outside of, like in the classroom, like in the school environment.

Robby:

Yeah.

George:

Yeah, I don't think they have exposure to it.

Robby:

No, no no, no, Not in the school environment. You think he has zero exposure to a period Like? Do you think he has not come in contact with an LLM?

George:

Yes, outside. Yeah, I do. I seeing me use it. Yes, I don't believe he's got contact with it at all. Doesn't have it on his iPad. Doesn't have it on his computer.

Robby:

So yes.

George:

I do believe that at the moment, unless one of his friends has it on one of his phones yeah, but not many of his friends have phones either. He's still that old, do you know what I mean? He's not old enough. He doesn't have a phone himself. So he's not at that age where they've all got phones and using chat and all that sort of stuff. But I'm sure once they do get it-.

Robby:

But they all have access to the internet.

George:

Six and seven, yeah, yeah, yeah. They could probably go on to-.

Robby:

On an iPad.

George:

Yes, yeah, but I don't believe I think he would tell me you know, hey, I looked up chat and I did this the other day, so I don't believe he has be really surprised. If he had actually I'm not going to be over what he does like I can see He'd be more interested in playing video games than going out to chat.

Robby:

Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know, Because I'm not exposed in that space. I guess I don't have my head wrapped around it.

George:

But, in short, I'm not worried about it. Yeah, I think it'll get better as time goes on too. So the next couple of years, like imagine how much different it's going to be so different in a couple of years. Think how far it's come in the time that it's been around. Now imagine Two and a half years, yeah, but imagine in another two years, almost three years, what it's going to be like. You would think it'd be fairly different in what it can do and how powerful it is.

Robby:

Well, they're expecting it to be. Based on the current measurements, it should be 16 times better than what it is in two years.

George:

Yeah, so 16 times where it's at now. I don't even know what that means. Imagine improving 16.

Robby:

I know, but what does that mean? Oh like, where is it? What does it do? I don't know.

George:

Yeah, like okay, what's 16 times better than what you're doing now? Do tasks. Yeah, yeah, does chat. Do agents now I saw something that it does agents or it can build agents or some shit like that.

Robby:

Yeah, I haven't dabbled in it a lot. I played around with it the other day and it did this weird presentation for me. I didn't like it. Yeah, but I haven't played around with it much yet. It's moving quick, dude, moving very fast. And then the question becomes like do you do, will your kids have an advantage if you give them the like? So you going home today or not going home, or going home and not doing this, yeah, are you giving them an advantage, disadvantage, or are you like, is it a? Does it become indifferent? You know, in the sense of like it doesn't make a difference whether you go this way or that way, it's not going to have a significant impact yet yeah, I think that.

Robby:

Yeah.

George:

Yet.

Robby:

Interesting.

George:

Yeah, because I like it. I think I'm an advocate for it. I bought a paid subscription for my team and I sent them all an email. I said hey guys, use it every single day. This is part of your job. It's here to amplify your job, not replace it, and it's a tool that you should be using if you have questions, like the other day someone. They called me up this morning and they were asking me a question about something. I said have you put into chat GPT? Just put in there, see what that comes up with with this regulation, and so on and so forth. This regulation and so on, and so forth.

Robby:

See if you can figure it out you should be able to.

George:

Is that because that's what you were going to do? Potentially, yeah, I mean I could find the information I knew. I could go online and Google which Australian standard do I need to refer to and find it. Then I could click on it, then I could read the book, or I could just go straight to chat and say, hey, in accordance with AS such and such, what do I need to do in this scenario? And it'll go bang this Find the clause five to the section. In section 4.1, such and such needs to be this long.

Robby:

I think it's going to be interesting. It's going to be very interesting, yeah, but long story short. This person said, yes, they'll have their child. Speak to their daughter.

George:

Maybe I'll use chat to grow my YouTube channel, Tell me what I should be doing and how I should do it and what strategies and look as silly as that sounds just now, because we're talking about growing a channel and whatnot I have asked the questions like that in the past just to see what it would say and what strategies it would put up, and if it said anything that I didn't really know already, nothing out of the norm. It didn't blow me away with any of the answers it gave, but that was what six months, a year ago. Might be better now. Maybe I was asking the wrong question from the wrong perspective. Maybe I didn't prompt it properly. Maybe I need to use Grok or Gemini.

Robby:

Have you seen how people fact check everything on Twitter? No, you haven't seen it. No, oh, so you've never seen like someone says something on Twitter and then a person will comment at Grok, is this true? Oh, no, yeah. And then Grok will reply no, this is not true.

George:

How funny.

Robby:

So it's like all of a sudden everything's being factored the same way. I showed you the other day on WhatsApp how we can tag Lama in the chat.

George:

Who was it? Who'd you tag Lama Lama?

Robby:

You know Lama.

George:

No, I don't know. I saw you do that and then I was like yeah, that Wasn't it Meta or something it was on WhatsApp. Yeah, lama is the Meta, is the AI for Meta.

Robby:

Yeah, it's like the same way Claude is Anthropic and Grok is.

George:

Twitter or X. So is there an app for Lama?

Robby:

Or do you just go at Lama? Hey, at Lama do cool stuff. I think it was Meta AI, but it's cool because you have whatsapp, or if you talk to your team through whatsapp, you can bring it into the conversation. The same way you can do that with uh, we saw this the other day. I was showing you a notebook, lm right so you upload a document. It turns into a podcast between a male and female and they said they're talking about the thing. Yes's right. Actually, a function on it where you can interrupt the conversation, which I found to be absolutely wild, Dude blew my mind. I was like what? I can talk to these? What are they AIs in the middle of their podcast about the topic that I picked that they're now having a conversation about? I can interrupt them and say what do you mean by that? And then I'll say that's a great question.

George:

What I liked about it is it went outside the question and got the information, even if they weren't talking about it within that document and you can say how does this relate to this, this and that?

Robby:

And then it'll be like, oh, that's a great question, Buy them and then they'll answer it and you're like whoa, I'm in this podcast, Bizarre.

George:

Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. You know there's easy, like man. Why couldn't you create a whole podcast around those two talking? It'll only be an audio podcast. It won't be one with video like we're doing here now, unless you actually got it to then sync up with an AI-generated image of two people talking. But you could. You could have, okay, look, I want you to have a 30-minute conversation on this topic. This is your point of view. This is your point of view. Go, you record it and then you upload it and then bang, you've got a podcast that you never speak to, you never speak about, you never speak about, you never do anything about. It's just literally the two AI bots having a conversation. There is probably someone doing something like that, most likely, yeah, but the game's getting easier now to do all this content and create all this stuff. You know 5, 6, 7 fuck. Not that long ago there weren't apps where you could just upload a video and then it automatically does captions, it automatically does B-roll and all that sort of stuff.

Robby:

The game changes, so the thing that makes you win moves needle moves Because all of a sudden, it was making the content. You had a good chance of winning because there wasn't many people who would do it, because it was hard.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

And then, when that thing became easy, all of a sudden your content had to be better, which is hard. There's always the element of what is hard about this that's going to make me win. Yeah, and initially it might have been effort or time spent.

George:

I reckon now it's a lot of creativity as well. I think there's a huge element of that With what you're putting out there. Yeah, like you see how powerful the hooks are in all these content, in all the content that you create, most of the videos that have done well for myself have got really good hooks on them. That's what I feel, or they're the ones that tend to get more views, and that I was a bit creative. Like you know, that one, that video I did with the fake bomb in the barbecue, that fake firecracker in the barbecue. Yeah, now that so many people were commenting on that, like even outside of the actual video itself, and when they'd see me, oh, that video watched it.

George:

I was waiting for the barbecue to explode and never did. Okay, that's cool. But I had to think about that a little bit and create it and I was like, okay, how could I make this a little bit different from something else I've seen? It was the first. I think I made that up about putting in the barbecue. Maybe the firecracker itself isn't original, but putting in the barbecue and then turning around and having a conversation on the camera was, and it worked. Yeah, it did. Well, it was a good performing ad and it was a good performing video as well, yeah, so I think there's a level now of being a bit more creative with what you're doing. And I think, going back to the guy beard and food and outdoor boys and all that sort of stuff they all look like they enjoy it what they're doing. So there's a level of that coming through the camera. I believe it's not like oh, I've got to go have another food challenge. Oh, I've got to build another car, I've got to build another supercar.

Robby:

Do you believe you have to be passionate about something to be successful in it?

George:

No, no, no, I think you'd have to be disciplined. Successful in it. No, no, I think you'd have to be disciplined. I don't wake up this morning like yes, invoicing, you know?

George:

yeah, there's an element yeah, I know, but there's lots of elements, though, that I'm not passionate about with what I do here. I still get up every day and do it and I'm still successful in it, so I think there's a level of discipline that has to come with that too. I was listening to a podcast on with what's that one? Chris Williamson? We always get his fucking surname wrong.

Robby:

Williamson.

George:

Williamson, isn't it? What's his podcast called?

George:

Modern Wisdom, Modern Wisdom that's the one I was talking about discipline, motivation, all that sort of stuff, and I haven't finished it yet, but it was a good topic. I liked how they were speaking about it and their approach to it and how discipline is what's going to get you through. Motivation is just you can't turn it on whenever you want to. It's good to be motivated at times, but you can't go cool at 5 pm. Today I'm going to be fully motivated to go do X, y, z.

George:

But even discipline, he was saying, like discipline is also, it's not always there either. It's not always there 24-7, because you really got to train yourself to do it and you could probably only be disciplined at something 14 times. You're going to have days where you're in a row, potentially, or in any given moment. Then you're going to have times when you're not going to be disciplined. But the point is you don't kick yourself down for that one time that you weren't disciplined, unless you're David Goggins and just a failure in life. Yeah, if you don't, if you lose one second of one day.

Robby:

Would you call him a failure? Who Goggins?

George:

I don't know enough about him to comment you haven't read his book. No, I haven't oh good book. Is it? Yeah? Yeah, I was going to buy it the other day. I haven't bought it, though.

Robby:

Even worth listening to because he reads it.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, it's very. You know you're weak. Stay hard, Very American with no voice.

George:

No, but he's very much like that though. His whole book, everything, I mean his whole persona, is all that. It's all about that. Watch this thing on hell week the other day on youtube. Uh, you know what that is with the army, training or stuff in the book. Yeah, yeah, because he's done it like three, four times and people just most people can't even get through it once and like saying he's gone back three, four times to do it and done it each and every time, once maybe he has.

Robby:

Yeah, maybe the first time he talks about it in the book. I think he got sick or something.

George:

Yeah, right, yeah, he couldn't go on. It was just saying like it just pushes you beyond your physical and mental ability to actually finish it. That's what it's designed to do.

Robby:

Yeah, and break you and breaks the barriers. Yeah, yeah, that mental barrier, dude, like that mind, that space in your mind, like, okay, I went, I did an ice bath this morning. Dude, it was fucking cold, like so cold, yeah. And I jumped in after the sauna and I jumped in and I always set a timer and my goal is four minutes, right and I jumped in and I remember thinking there's actual ice in there. It was just really cold, it's just really cold, it's cold. You gotta come to say I want to. And I jumped in and I remember thinking this is freezing and I'm like trying to control my breathing and it was cold and there's joints on my body that are hurting from it. And I was thinking like, hey, like, just like good on you for doing this, but we'll get out at two minutes, oh yeah.

George:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get out at two minutes. I'll get out at two minutes.

Robby:

I've been gone for 30 seconds, I'm going to get out. It's like, just get to two minutes. If you get to two minutes, yeah, yeah. And then Thinking about how much that's my inner bitch Do you know what I mean? And I was like I was giving in.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, I was dude, I was like I'm going to get a two minutes. You did two minutes, man. No, there's people that aren't even here. People are still sleeping, yeah, people are still sleeping, yeah, and I thought of that in that moment and I was like don't give in. You're going to have a way better day if you stick around for four minutes. Yeah, just do the two minutes now. Do the two minutes in pain now. It's going to impact your whole fucking day.

George:

Was it still hard after the two minute mark, or did it get better? I was locked in, no, but was it?

Robby:

I was locked in. I was like this is it?

George:

You're not going out, yeah, but I'm saying, does it hurt the? It's the coldest at the start. Yeah, that's right, it's like when you get into the ocean and your feet hurt. You know what I mean.

Robby:

Yeah, dude my feet were aching, yeah, yeah, it's like man, this is cold and you're trying to breathe, but you're going yeah, it's full on, there you go.

Robby:

Sick. It's like crack. Just like it For David Coggins. Just like it. No, it was great. I remember thinking that in that moment Did you get back into the sauna after that? I usually jump in the hot tub after it. That is the greatest feeling. You wouldn't want to get out. Your whole body tingles Like you, fully tingle. It's great, very cool. It's all about controlling the mind, it's massive, huge. Control your mind space.

George:

Yeah, I think that's a topic all in itself, isn't it? Do you reckon you can get coached in that space to have a better mindset? Like to do it, yeah? Do you reckon you could learn how to do it? Or is it just a matter of doing the do and just?

Robby:

Well, I think you know there is an element of learning and there is an element of doing that teaches. Maybe there's levels to it too, there's levels to everything.

George:

Yeah. So I'm saying, like if you're going to do the ice bath, maybe you go in at I don't know 12 degrees and then you go, okay, this is cold, and then do that, and then you go in at eight degrees and maybe that's the level to it for yourself.

Robby:

Yeah, or you just do a minute first, and then you do 90 seconds, and then you do blah, blah, blah.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

But it's fascinating how many people fear something like that. And it's like it's in your head. That's a mental thing. It's like break the mental thing. It's not going to kill you Should someone die.

George:

It's like it's not going to kill you, like you know what I mean. If it does, you won't even care.

Robby:

Break the mental thing. But then dude, like that reflects directly back on like, if you can, or you're going to be more resistant to you know, if chat does turn on you or your kids or whatever you know what I mean You're going to have the mental fortitude to be able to say no, like, well, this thing's driven, or I don't care that you agree with everything I say. Like I know what you are, I'm not going to fall into that and think you're my friend.

George:

Yeah, I'm strong here. That's right and that's what I was trying to get at. The self-awareness aspect, and that's very, very hard to teach. It's like children, but even more so adults. How do you teach self-awareness?

Robby:

It's a catch-22, because everyone has blind spots too.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. I mean I think thinking yourself aware can harm you too, cause then you think, no, I know in technical it's happening Like, and you should have some level of awareness. I'm not saying you shouldn't, don't be delusional, but when you back your own awareness so much, that's a problem, because if you're not listening to people, people see things that you can't see about yourself.

George:

Yeah, huge, Definitely, definitely definitely.

Robby:

And that goes back to that question of can you coach it? And yeah, I think being around the right people matters more than anything else when it comes to that, yeah, for sure, for sure, yeah I think that's.

George:

That's probably why, as as you get older, as people get older, their circle gets smaller, you reckon? I think so. I think there has to be a level of that too, because now you know, I would have had friends that I used to go out with. That I don't go out with anymore, I don't see anymore, not because they're bad people. It's just because my awareness of what I want and what's important to me isn't that anymore, and I want to make sure that the people I'm around are filling my cup.

Robby:

Is that awareness, or is that just growth or change?

George:

Oh, it's probably a bit of both. There has to be a level of awareness to it as well. Yeah, without a doubt there would be a level of awareness to that.

Robby:

What does awareness mean?

George:

Hey chat.

Robby:

Dude. That's the problem, people start doing that shit. And then you're like chat Dude. That's the problem, people start doing that shit, I know. And then you're like hey like have a thought for yourself If you forget how to think, life's going to be very hard, or that's an old school way of thinking then, and it's not going to matter, because then it'll be like you know how you should do the maths on your own.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

You should do. No, don't use the calculator. Do it in your head.

George:

And then what if one day the internet just switches off?

Robby:

We'll be cooked, yeah, or the AI sits there. Turn off the internet, guys. Yeah, pshoo, yeah. And then we're all sitting there. What happens, the AI?

George:

No, pshoo, ah p. That's the sound, it's the universal sound. I knew exactly what happened.

Robby:

Of course, so if you hear that sound, just for the listeners, check your wifi because it's probably down. Yeah, that's it. That's all I got to say. Ai's coming, get, get your kids on it. Get out the way. Get the kids on it. Get your kids on it. Make them take ice baths so they have strong minds, and then get them on it. Make them take ice baths so they have strong minds, and then get them on it, and then get them on it.

George:

And don't forget to sign up to the Builder Summit. We may even use AI to put the slides together Very busy. You'll have to come and find out.

Robby:

You'll have to attend and see for yourself. That's true.

George:

All right, thanks for joining us again on another episode of Million Dollar Test. Hey, what number are we up to?

Robby:

A good one 95, 94, 95. Mid-90s.

George:

A good number. Yeah, a great number.

Robby:

But we're not far off hitting the Centurion. What's it called Century? A century, that is Century.

George:

Centurion is the person, is the thing, is the Amex card.

Robby:

That's what it is, centenarian.

George:

Centenarian Centurion. Yeah, you're right. Centurion's the Amex, centurion's the Amex card.

Robby:

Yeah, but we're about to hit triple figures, so that's going to be a huge, huge episode.

George:

Yeah, we've got to think of a way to bring in the 100th episode. We should definitely do it, because it's not far away, not far away had it dropped from the sky.

Robby:

Yeah, have you ever jumped off a plane? I haven't, but I hear it's fun.

George:

No, would you do it again? No, yeah, you wouldn't go with. Hey, let's go do it again this weekend. Yeah. But, if you have to jump out of a plane because it's going down, yeah, you'll jump.

Robby:

You won't stay there, no, but yeah, like I said, come on, let's go. No, yeah, yeah, that's it. I did it. I can say I'm strong and a man.

George:

Is that what it is? Is that where we're at? Yeah, I don't know. I have to. I have to you either sky jump or you're a pussy.

Robby:

Sky jump, sky jump. What is it? Sky jumping ticket? Yeah, what is it Sky diving? Sky jump.

George:

Hey, I've jumped in the sky before.

Robby:

Yeah, me too. You can't not jump in the sky, that's right, that's right, all right, guys.

George:

This is where you come for all the important conversations. Thank you very much for joining us. Pleasure as always. Cannot wait for you to join in next week and, as always, I hope you're having a million dollar day.

Robby:

Thanks everybody. Peace Phone is fucking. What's this 10 messages.

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