Million Dollar Days
Welcome to Million Dollar Days with Robby Choucair & George Passas. Your go-to podcast for a deep dive into the world of Life and Business Mastery.
Join hosts Robby Choucair and George Passas, a dynamic marketer and a seasoned Entrepreneur, as they navigate through an array of intriguing topics ranging from the everyday to the extraordinary.
Robby brings his marketing expertise to the table, offering insights into the latest strategies and trends. George, with his extensive experience in business, provides a grounded, practical perspective. Together, they explore everything from the feasibility of alien existence to effective goal setting, and even the nuances of religion.
Million Dollar Days is not just about business acumen; it's an exploration of life's many facets, wrapped up in conversations that are as enlightening as they are entertaining.
Tune in and be part of our journey, where every day is a million-dollar day, filled with learning, laughter, and the pursuit of mastery.
Million Dollar Days
When Thinking Becomes Optional: Are We Ready For Agentic AI?
A browser that can see your screen, move its own cursor, and ship your tasks sounds like sci‑fi. We put it to work. From finding a contact in the CRM and firing off a text to duplicating a WordPress template and publishing a blog post, we stress‑tested ChatGPT Atlas as a real assistant inside the place we already live all day: the browser. The result wasn’t instant magic—logins still need handovers and it executes slower than a power user—but the ceiling is high, and the floor is already useful.
We get specific about what Atlas is and isn’t. It’s a prompted, in-browser assistant, not a fully autonomous agent that wakes itself on incoming events. For recurring workflows, you still want event‑triggered automations. For on‑screen, multi‑step busywork, Atlas does the clicking. That division of labor is where teams can compound output: let agents watch the inbox, let Atlas handle the UI, and let humans make the calls that actually move the business. We share where this hits first for builders and small businesses—site updates, invoice entries, CRM hygiene, templated replies—and how those “little things” add up to hours saved every week.
Then we zoom out. Does convenience erode critical thinking? We argue both sides. The person who isolates variables, spots the typo, and fixes the wobbly table without asking the internet still has an edge when systems fail. But every wave of technology levels old advantages. The industrial revolution reduced the premium on raw strength; agentic AI will compress the gap in everyday reasoning. The durable edge becomes better questions, faster decisions, and smarter orchestration across tools. We also talk platform risk, verification, and staying multi‑channel so a single lockout can’t sink your brand.
Want to see how far this goes and what you can automate today? Listen, take one workflow you hate, and hand it off. If it saves you even 20 hours a month, that’s not a demo—that’s your new baseline. If you enjoyed this, subscribe, share with a friend who needs an AI nudge, and leave a review with the one task you’d delegate first.
George I've got a bone to pick with you. Fire away. I've been meaning to ask you, it's it's bothered me since you mentioned it. And I figured what better way to ask you than to ask you live?
George:I'd be upset if you asked me in private. Yeah.
Robby:I figured. And I didn't want to upset you as much as what you said upset me. I really need I need to know the answer, the truth here. Okay. Do you really order chocolate when you go to the movies? What's it called? Choctop? A chock mint chock top? Do you seriously? Is that a flavor and do you actually get it? Because I might have to cut you off.
George:I could say, I could say now. Like I could say yes. But I feel that you know you think I could you sometimes I'm muck around and you don't know if I'm lying or not. I feel like if I call my wife live right now. Call her, call her. And call her. Call her. I'm just gonna ask her the question. And I'll put her on speaker. Right now, we're gonna this is hold it close to the mic.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
George:Hey, Miss Lady. You're you are live on the podcast. I need to ask you a question. What? You are live on the podcast right now. Okay, we're filming. Oh my god. Just wait, just wait. I need to ask you a question. You have to answer honestly. And Stevie's in the car too. What flavor Chock Top do I order every single time when we go to the movies? Peppermint Ross.
Robby:Every single time. Thank you. That's all. Bye.
Speaker 3:Weirdo. Bye.
Robby:Bye. Well, at least she thinks you're a weirdo too. Every time. My favorite one. So this is going to be the final episode of Million Dollar Days Around. Come join me. I'm starting a U1 called million dollar Choc Tops. Million Dollar Chocts Choc Tops. Speaking of the name, I was actually thinking this real sideways note. We should get um you know who should we should reach out to? The man who gives away a million bucks in a day. Wow, who's that? Adrian Portelli. Oh, cool. That would be such a fitting. Yeah. Um, so we should probably reach out to him, Adrian. If you're watching this, we'd love to have you on. Or listening. Um in your Lambo. In your yeah, in your Lambo.
George:Or your chopper or your Jet or wherever you want to listen to it. Yeah.
Robby:What colour's your bugetti?
George:Sig question.
Robby:Anyway. So chock top, chock bin, chock top. Fair enough.
George:Yeah. Sorry, man.
Robby:I'm disappointed. Uh, but we'll make it up to you. Uh all right. George, today the date is the 23rd of October, and yesterday, yesterday there was a huge breakthrough in the AI world. And you told me about it. I was like, let me let me explain to everyone uh that is listening so they understand. This is gonna air, we're recording this on the 23rd of October, this is gonna air by Monday. Now, if you're listening to this, by the time you hear this, it wouldn't, this thing wouldn't have even been out for a week yet. But you've probably heard of what ChatGPT is. And right now, Chat GPT or OpenAI has developed their own browser. Okay, your browser. So think the thing you open when you want to access something on the internet, your Microsoft Surface or your uh Google Chrome, most people use, or if you're an Apple user, some people use Safari, right? OpenAI has developed its own one and it's got chat GPT built in. Meaning anything you're doing, you've instantly got access to chat. You can you can be like writing an email if you're using the uh uh your emails on the browser, you can instantly be like, hey, reply to this person. And it's already read everything that's there.
George:So can I log on to my okay? This makes it a I think I was in a headspace about that.
Robby:Let me continue on, let me continue on. All right, let me continue on for everyone. Okay. So I brought George into the room and I was like, George, come into the room, you're not gonna believe this. It had been out for 11 hours. I was like, George, come into the room, you're not gonna believe this. Um come, come, come, come look at this. And he comes into my office and I'm like, check this out. And I had Chat GPT working on my computer for me. And I said, Hey, go find George in the CRM and send him a text. And it went through the CRM, searched for George, found him, jumped in, sent him a text. And I looked at George and I was like, I was like, you know, like, wow. George just looked at it and he said, I could have done that way quicker. And I was like, What? Like, how are you not? You would eight, by the way, I've shown maybe at this point, it's been out for 24 hours. I've shown maybe six people. Everyone blown away has been blown away. Every single person except for you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I've still not blown away.
George:That's cool, but I'm not blown away. Yeah, I'm all I think I was more pumped about jumping on your trampoline. Um you were you were jumping on your trampoline. Um I'm not doing these things. You were, dude. Like I remember day one when you said, Hey, I've just tried this thing out called Chat GPT, and that was what, a week?
Robby:Yeah, and dude, there's still people. I get people now today coming to me saying, I wish I'd listened to you.
George:Yeah, cool. Saying, I'm good.
Robby:I wish I'd listened to you. You told me to try it, and it took me two years.
George:Just like you could be the new Gary V. We'll call you Robbie, we'll call you Robbie. Robbie V.
Robby:Robbie C. Robbie C.
George:That's still that flows. C double E. C double, yes. Fuck, that's so good. Change your change your channel. I'm gonna update my uh your profile name. My Robbie C.
Robby:Instagram handle. The handle, that's what I was that's what I tried to do. Instagram handle, uh, Robbie C. Robbie C.
George:George, if it's available, I'll do it right now. That's fucking cool. You think I won't do it? I don't even know how to do it. I am pumped. Hey, hey, I've got some fantastic news thing as we're talking. Actually, before we get into that, before we get into that. So I think that I was I was when you called me, I was fucking flustered, not flustered, I was just in the zone. Deep work. So I think when I came in, yeah. I think when I came in as well, my mine's still with numbers and shit I was doing on my computer and whatnot. So yeah, that makes a bit more sense now. It's an actual browser like a Chrome, like um Safari. What's the one? Edge, is that what Microsoft has?
Robby:Yeah, what did I call it? Service. That's a computer. The service, yeah, sorry, Edge, whatever it is.
George:Yeah, those those ones.
Robby:So who now uses Microsoft then? Who does who uses PCs? That's silly. That's yeah. Oh, and does it have PCs yet? We should add that it's only available on Mac.
George:Yes, that's what I was gonna ask you. Because I've I only use PC. That's the joke for everyone. But the so if you were logged onto Facebook on the browser, you could be like, hey, find this photo. Would it go onto your computer to find something? So like a file, a folder on your desktop and a picture of you. So, hey, go look at this folder and find these photos and post it at 7 p.m. tonight and put a fun cover.
Robby:So so okay. So let me let me give you a visual that's gonna allow you to understand how the world works. Not not our world, the AI world. Yep. The internet is its own world. Yes. Okay, they live on the internet, they can't come to the world. That can't come into the real world, yeah. Okay, so you're the only way they can come into the real world and have physical impact is when they're coded onto a device that's connected to the internet.
George:Okay. Does that make sense? So pretty much you'd have to be logged on onto whatever tab, let's call it, that's open on your browser. Does the tab have to be open?
Robby:It can open stuff.
George:Yeah, so we could go, you could go say you got favorites saved.
Robby:Yeah, yeah.
George:You could go and find go to this wherever and find this.
Robby:But it's it's got full built-in memory. So like it might the first time it might struggle. Yeah, like your history. Oh, yeah, I know now. Yeah, okay, yeah, no, no, I know that. Now I I did that once and now I know how to do it. Yeah, so you wouldn't use Chrome or anything ever again. Well, no, I I'm so close to moving everything over. Yeah, well.
George:It's probably in 24 hours. Yeah, of course.
Robby:I'm so close to being like, well, why am I gonna like this seems silly to continue working on on the older platform, yeah.
George:Yeah, it's like, why would I not be able to do that? Because it's funny, I was thinking the other day, it's like, what's uh Gemini? Is that Google? Yeah. So I was thinking the other day, because I've got um one of those screens at home. What are they called? The Google Home. Google Home, yeah. Yeah, and it's in the kitchen, just literally it tells a time. And the only thing I use it for, honestly, is to set a countdown timer for when I'm soft boiling eggs. Five minutes and twenty seconds, everyone. But is that your time? Five minutes and twenty seconds will give you perfect soft yolk eggs.
Robby:Are they running come out of the fridge?
George:Yeah, out of the fridge. Large eggs? Large eggs.
Robby:Five minutes and boiling water?
George:Drop them into boiling water, five minutes, twenty seconds. Do you put them into cold water after it? Straight away.
Robby:Well, that's not long. I do seven minutes.
George:Do you?
Robby:For soft. I'm talking runny. Soft, yeah. Nah, mine's uh uh uh not runny, like like soft to the points where they're just not runny.
George:No, mine's runny. So the the egg white is solid, and then the yolk is runny. Five minutes, twenty seconds.
Robby:Okay, no, no.
George:Uh uh mine's soft. Oh, okay. No, I don't do that. Yeah, I don't do that.
Robby:Okay. So anyway, that's pretty much 20 seconds. If you haven't learned anything from 105 episodes now, you know how to become if you ever haven't Georgia. Figure it out. You'd be like, cool, five minutes, 20 seconds, George. I got you. Just how he likes it.
George:So that's all I use it for. And I was thinking the other day, like, why the hell wouldn't they integrate Gemini into that so it actually has intelligent and proper conversation? No, I think it's funny enough, I got an email notification the other day, and I think it's just starting to integrate it now. But for the longest time, I was like, why wouldn't you do that? Because you can ask it things now and it's stupid. Like it's it doesn't, it doesn't respond like chat would, for example. You know, you can have a proper conversation with chat, you can't do that with Google Home, which to me was a bit silly. Like you you've got the thing there, use it, utilize it, let's go. So okay, that's cool. So you would use that, it makes perfect sense for you to be using that as your primary browser now and just running everything through there because as you said, you could you could go downstairs, you could say, say you got a meeting downstairs, you could say, Okay, before I go, can you do this, this, this, and this? Go.
Robby:And even if it takes it an hour, it is a just a disclaimer for everyone listening, it's not as quick as you would be. Yes. At the moment right now, yeah, yeah, it's going to be way fucking quicker than you eventually.
George:Yeah, but also let's think of as you said, as you said yesterday.
Robby:I don't think people are fathoming, it can see the screen. Yeah, because when I saw it move. Think about that. It is it can see the screen, like it knows what it's looking at, it knows what's in front of it. Yeah. Was it moving the actual mouse? It's got its own mouse. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it doesn't touch your mouse. Um, and it's cool because it can do handovers. So if it gets to a point where it's gonna say login, it can turn around and be like, Can you log in? Can you log in? I can't do that. And you can be like, but like this is where I think it's gonna go. So a couple things. Wait, did uh did I answer your question?
George:Yeah, yeah. But so it's and this is what I asked you. It's like a its own AI agent, then, isn't it?
Robby:It's it is, it's the agentic version in the browser, built into the browser. Yeah, that's it. So it's like it can do basic tasks for you. Now, it still has to be prompted and triggered. So the difference between an AI agent we build is we can have it based on something happening. Do you know what I mean? So I can build an agent for you, and that agent can respond based on the email being received, whereas this will only respond based on you prompting it. Yeah. Make sense? Yes. Because every reaction is caused by an action. Yeah. But this will only be caused by you doing something. So it sits in your browser, it does whatever you want. So you can be like doing something, and then you can be like, you know how uh you wouldn't use this much, but we use this a lot. And it's like you get stuck in a particular situation building something out, and you can kind of screenshot it and take it to chat and be like, hey, this is where I'm at, what's happening? Now I can do that in the browser. So I don't have to take I don't have to go and come back and like you know what I mean? I can do it in the spot, I can be like, what the fuck's going on here? And it'll tell me. Or I can be like, Can you sort this out and it'll take over the screen? So I tested it.
George:And then you can go do something else.
Robby:You can go do something else. So I tested it before with our web developer. I got him on um a Zoom call and I was like, let me show you my screen and I'll show you this thing. He just came out, blah blah blah. Show him. He's like, What the fuck? And I'm like, what's what's a task you normally do? And he's like, he's like, let's go. So we went into like a back end of a website, WordPress, and I was like, Cool, uh, what's something like what's a basic task you do? And he told me and I was like, Cool, can you go do this? And the fucking thing did it. And it went and did what he would. I I didn't even know how to do what it did.
George:Yeah. And you asked her to do it.
Robby:Yeah, and it went and updated the page title. So it's now now it's like, hey, if you want to go and manage your own website, you probably can.
George:Yeah, so I won't need to pay someone to do that.
Robby:That's what I'm saying. And you can go and manage, like, update your own website. If you want to change some writing or add something in, you can go be like, can you go add this onto this page? Yep. Dude, I even said go duplicate. Here's a here's the blog post. Here's a Google Drive link for a blog post. It need add it to the website, duplicate the pages they currently have. It went, duplicated the current style, added the new blog post in and posted it. And I was like, we just added a page to a website. Didn't need to do anything. I didn't need to do anything. Yeah. I don't I don't know how to do that myself. Yes. I used to have to give it to my team. I did it. So now you're fired, guys. Hope you're listening. Yeah.
George:So if you're listening, this is uh this is your notice. This is your notice. Two weeks' notice, pack it up. But technically as that sounds, yeah, though, but you're looking at that aspect of what they do now, they're gonna start to become very obsolete like that.
Robby:No, no, no, no, no, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not. This is where people are getting it wrong, and we're thinking like humans. So this is what people's jobs are gonna become.
George:It's agent.
Robby:Yes, it's no longer the doing the do. Oh, I need to now go in and fucking blah blah blah blah. It's like now you might have an operation of 12 screens, and you're like, cool, go do this, go do this, screen two, go do this, screen three, screen four, screen five, screen six, and you instruct them all, and now all of a sudden your output is 12x. Yeah, so it's gonna enhance what you're doing now because you can you can do 12 multiple things all at once, but you know, separate tabs.
George:I suppose it still does to a degree, because if you had before you had 10 people doing that, now you can have three people doing it. Yeah, so to a degree, it does have a level of replacement, but that so does any automation in business as well.
Robby:Look at all technology, yeah. That's all all uh farming and advancing, like yeah, yeah. If you think about agricultural advancements, it was like they had a hundred people uh what's seeding or whatever the I don't know. I don't know the first thing about farming, you do. But they had a hundred people seeding or watering or whatever, and now it's like done by this big machine and one person drives. Do you go to the supermarket? Never, sometimes.
George:Yeah, okay. Do you ever go to a checkout chick? Me? Yeah.
Robby:If I've got a lot of stuff, yeah.
George:If you have a lot, so you still want to do it yourself. If I've got a lot, I've got a what's a lot, like a trolley.
Robby:Yeah.
George:Yeah, okay. So if you've got a trolley, okay. Basket? No. Generally you do it yourself. Most people these days will probably prefer to do it themselves than to get go to a person. And like you think back in the day, people didn't know any of that. Yeah. You know, people like, no, no, person, person, person. And now everyone's used to it. They used to people used to crack it saying I don't want to do it myself. I'm paying coals to do it myself now, you know, or bullies or whatever it is.
Robby:Technology advancements.
George:It's the same thing now.
Robby:Yeah, exact same thing. It's very much the same thing. There used to be milkmen. That was a job once. You were a milkman and you had to deliver milk to everyone's house. Yeah. Who's a milkman now? Do you know anyone that's a milkman? You know one. One looks just one. Do you know one milkman? If you're listening to this and you know a milkman, send me a DM.
George:Yeah. Send me a DM and send and send me some milk.
Robby:And um, we're gonna be out of milk, bring us some to the office. We're gonna sign up to a milk subscription. Um bring but bring us a cow. But that is that is the uh evolution of things. Yeah, you know what I mean? And I think people haven't quite gathered that oh, okay, like the same way. What's something that was like super difficult? Because now it's like the super difficult things can become easy. From a tech particular getting on the internet. So getting on the internet in the early 90s was like you had to be a fucking tech wizard to get on the internet. No, but that was like that was late 90s, early 2000s. Yeah, yeah. I think like early 90s. I think when like Jeff Bezos got into Amazon like that early, and it's like um that's a right, no. You had to really, really understand aspects of technology that most people didn't. Yeah, now this is making that less valid. Like now, all of a sudden, like if you can write, you can instruct some you can instruct the AI agent to go and change something on your website.
George:Why do you think they haven't got it on PC? I thought that's a bit odd, don't you?
Robby:Yeah, but like there's two types of people people who use PCs and normal people.
George:Right? People that and people that order peppermint chock tops. Yeah, and and then and then people No, but that's still like to me, you aren't you I don't know, is it 5050 PC and Mac? I I I'm sure they are maybe coming up with that.
Robby:That's true. That'd have to. Yeah.
George:That'd have to eventually. They're the two main operating systems in the world, PC and Mac. But I yeah, like because if it had it, I'd I'd probably use it now. I'd have it. I would have downloaded it already. I was I was um because I use Outlook for my emails, but then I would probably open Outlook on my browser as well if it can help me do certain things. Yeah, well, say any email from these people or from this person, just either But it's it's not gonna work by itself. Oh, it won't you have to ask it each time?
Robby:Yeah, it's like chat GPT.
George:Okay, so I can't so it's not an agent like what you were saying, where it can you can program it to do that task all the time throughout the day. No, okay, cool.
Robby:No, we can build those agents, yeah, but that has to be based on a reaction. So that has to be triggered every time something happens. Yes. So it's be like, cool, when every time we get an email, I want you to read it. And if it's from this person, I want you to reply. Or if it's from these five people, don't reply, everyone else reply.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Robby:You know what I mean? Things like that, you know, or if it's and you can teach it like that, but that's not the version that's built into the browser.
George:Yeah, okay.
Robby:The version that's built into the browser is like an assistant who's there, you're like, hey, do this.
George:Yep.
Robby:You know what I mean? Whereas the other agentic version, which which operates in a similar manner, but just is on a different system, so you you can build it based on an action.
George:Yeah, so the other day, because you got it to you said, Hey, go onto George's Facebook uh Instagram page or something and like all these photos.
Robby:Yeah, so go onto Instagram and just keep liking every go like 20 photos. Yeah. It's like this is gonna be a lengthy task. And I'm like, do it.
George:Why then my question is why didn't you like them already?
Robby:That's a great question. Probably because the Pascal Instagram page was uh missing for 60 days. I was crying the whole time. Hey, by the way, shout out shout out to those people who were able to get it back. That's a great contact. I think you should share them with me because that's a quite a unique I don't know if they did the job in the end. Oh, what?
George:Yeah, I don't know. I think it was a coincidence.
Robby:Oh what? Yeah, I think oh so you don't reckon it was them?
George:No, I don't. Then it was me. It could have been, it could have been you. So if so many cases if your account gets hacked, make sure you contact Robbie. Give Robbie a buzz, call me, ridiculous. Yeah, that's what we specialize in. Yeah, so for those of you that don't know, my Instagram account, the Pascon one, um over a thousand photos. I genuinely thought I thought, oh, they must have a way. Like they must have look, all they did when I contacted them was literally do what you did. Yeah, absolutely. The only difference was he goes, when you're speaking to them, be overly nice. I am not just not nice, not just hey, thank you. Overly nice, like Love Heart, every fucking message they say. Thank you so much. You're amazing. Have a wonderful day. But he reckons they've tested thousands upon thousands of different interactions with the with the meta crew, but it's that's unblunt ones. Yeah, but he goes, it was overwhelming the result they got when they were overly nice, as opposed to Yeah, but that's probably applicable in all.
Robby:It could very well be. Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna get more of what you want if you're nicer to the people.
George:But think about when people contact Meta, generally speaking, hey, where the fuck's my page? Like, what are you fuckers doing? Can you sort this shit out?
Robby:So I had an issue with my page for two years. Wow. Two years that's a long time. I was convinced that like it was gone. I was gonna start a new page. Yeah, it was I was actually very close. But I didn't have ownership access. Oh, remember partial access. Yes, I remember that. And every now and again I would go to give someone access and I couldn't, and I would get pissed off. Yeah. So I'd go go back at them like every three months. And uh one day I just got a girl and I was having a bad day, and I was going off at her, and she's like, I'm gonna fix this for you. And I was like, Everyone fucking says they're gonna fix it, blah, blah, blah. Um, you know what I mean? And then she fixed it. And then we And I was like, Hey, can I take you out to dinner? No. What's your name? What's your name? Couldn't even tell you my name. Um, but I was so because they all say the same thing. It's like they've Yeah, it was really and I'm like, hey, like this. I've spoken to like 25 of you at this point. Yeah, and you've asked the same question extract. And you all ask the same question, and I tell you, and then you give me back the same excuse at the plant and then you close the case, and then you know very frustrating because I started doing that, and that's all he was directing me to do. Yeah, and I was just doing that over and over and over, and I I I got it back.
George:Yeah. So uh for us, it was it's been down for about it was down for about two months where just no access, they just shut it down all of a sudden, and it was random, random, random, random. I just literally went to log on one night and said, doesn't you you've breached our community standards or something like that. And last two nights ago, I got a notification again on email saying, Hey, we've um unlocked your page, you can log in again. Thank we made a mistake after further review. We made a mistake. We apologize for the inconvenience, but trying to keep our community safe. Obviously, posting too many sick houses that we're building. Yeah, it's like yeah, slow down too much. Slow down. But yeah, it got me thinking as well. Like I was very close to just going, fuck it, let's start again. So it's still a new page. So 20 over, I think we had 23,000, 24,000 followers, over a thousand posts. And I was just like, all right, cool. Part of me was like, All right, how cool would it be to do it again and actually build it up but quicker? And then the other part was me like, fuck, can't be bothered. Like just let's just go. But it also is a lesson for everyone, like not to be omnipresent. Uh sorry, not to be what's the opposite? Single channel focused, yeah, single channel focused, exactly. Like, imagine how I only ever post it on Instagram. That's it. Because I couldn't be bothered because Facebook doesn't give me much, or I don't get much on Facebook. Facebook doesn't give anyone much. I know, but it's free. That's what I said. Yeah, like it costs nothing.
Robby:You're getting a bad return on your investment. Yeah, exactly.
George:Pay. Yeah. I just I actually just paid now. I don't know if it's gonna make any difference, but I got um meta verified on both of the accounts. So Facebook and Instagram. Um, not from a perspective of getting more likes or anything, I just think it protects the account a little bit more when they see that you're verified. And we spend quite a bit of money on ads, like yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't think they make the connection though.
George:Really? Because a guy I was speaking to said that because you're paying for ads and you've got a track history of spending, you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars, he goes, I'll prioritize you a little bit more. Oh, really? That's what he said. Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know. Interesting. Yeah, so we got it back, which was great, good result. But you know, if you do have social media accounts, which everyone in business these days does. You did an event, we did an event at our last one at Built Mastery, and I think you asked a few people, there's a few people who didn't have websites, there was a few people who weren't on social media as well.
Robby:There's a couple of people who had in the room any platforms either.
George:Uh any which? AI. Oh, that's what it was. That's what I was a bit surprised at.
Robby:Yeah, and they were like, no, I've never used it. And I'm like, dude, yeah, listen to me. It's like saying you're riding your horse to work. Your life's going to be rattled. Um, yeah. I think people are grossly underestimating how full on this is.
George:Yeah, I agree. And I tell you why, why do you think that is? Why do I think that people haven't said like how come it's not headlining news? How come people aren't going out tonight and talking about it when they get home? Like, why do you think people don't know what you knew?
Robby:Even when chat GPT came out, people went. Yeah, but why do you think that is? And now they're like, oh my god, it's my therapist and blah blah blah. And it's like it's just an agreeable, it's agreeable.
George:Yeah, you still use it wrong.
Robby:Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's now gone to the next level. It's gone from So think this. The internet was initially a place you could go and type and get some information. Then it turned into I could type and they would type back. And it was like, whoa, like this thing's replying. Now it's like I can sit there, hey, go do this. And it'll sit there. Like, think about that. And then soon it's gonna be like, hey, come in. Come in, yeah. Bring in the bots, bring in the bots, send set up all the cameras. Yeah, you sit there. Did you turn the alarm off when you left? Go get me my lunch. That's gonna be great. That's pump. And then yeah, the bots angry at you in it since they're poisoning your lunch. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. Take it too far.
George:I just relax. Let's relax. But back to my question. Why do you think it is? Why do you think people aren't doing it? Why do you think people aren't as pumped right now about the um the search engine?
Robby:The browser. I I think most people have no. I I can almost guarantee everyone listening to this right now, this would be the first time they're hearing about it. Yeah, oh, without a doubt. But you're getting to hear about it because you follow us. That's right.
George:Imagine what else we could teach you.
Robby:Yeah. Like this is uh this is I posted about chat DPT six weeks after I came out, and I was fucking early. I showed you this 11 hours after I came out. After I got dropped. I was like, I saw it and I was like, I'll check it out. Like, let me just have a quick look. And I was like, whoa. And I was blown away.
George:Yeah. Does Josh uh have a Mac downstairs? Oh no. Yeah.
Robby:He's gonna work um in the main age. Yeah, told him get a shovel, so um you know, speaking on that I think we I think we're we're facing a serious problem. In society? Or you and society How old is your youngest employee? Uh 27, 28?
George:Okay, so late 20s. Oh no, younger. Yeah, 27.
Robby:Okay. I don't know. If I look at this has been my experience. I I've heard other people say similar things, but I feel like and I don't know if this is a generations thing, I don't know if this is an AI thing, but I feel like people lack and and this is gonna get worse, lack the ability to actually do the do. But then it's like I I almost want to turn around and say, Well, like, do I need to know how to fix a tractor? I don't. You know what I mean? And people probably back in the day, you said, you don't know how to fix a tractor. Just for the record, I probably do. I used to be a mechanic, but everyone else, you know, like um Do you get what I'm saying? And it's like, are we thinking like that? Are we thinking that type of old school? I'll give you an example. I spoke to someone today and they had a they hit a wall with an they're trying to do something on an account, and they're like, Oh, it's not working. And I've I've I've taught them this many times, and I'm like, hey, when something doesn't work, what do we do? We isolate the problem. Okay, like let's isolate the problem. Okay, cool. This account is not being added on this. Well, let's work out is it the account, is it the browser? Like, what are the all the variables? And let's test them one by one to work out what the problem is. Because then you can work out, oh fuck, it doesn't work on this browser. Oh, it's the client's account, oh, it's the email we were trying, oh, it's the fucking platform is currently doing it with everyone. Whatever it is, we can work out what it is. Oh, it's this time or whatever. We can work out what it is if we isolate each variable. They don't know how to do that anymore. Like they don't know how to think a problem, they don't have problem solve. But am I thinking old school and be like, we don't have to problem solve anymore, we've got AI. Yeah, true. Do you know what I mean? Like, we've we've got AI. What do I need to problem solve? The AI can do it for me.
George:In the last um, I'm gonna call it month, I've replaced two tires on a car. Yeah. On an actual vehicle. Now, my car uh and I had a puncture, and I fixed the puncture myself. So I pulled the car off, pulled the tire off, fixed it, put the back, put it back on. And then the other day, one of my employees on their car had the same thing happen, which is actually my car anyway, but had it happen there, and we had to take a change the tire there. And it's funny because my brother-in-law is the type that will never change your tire. Not because of not knowing how to, he'd be like, the first thing he would think would be like, I'm just gonna call RACV. They can come, jack up the tar, the the car, change the tire, move on with my life. Whereas my first trainer thought was, okay, let's let's pull the jack out, change the tire and move on, rather than calling someone else. So I think it's also it comes down to the the programming and how people have have sort of grown up and how they're trained. And I think people, as from a habitual perspective, they focus on what they're doing and that's it. And then everything outside of that, they'll catch on eventually, if at all.
Robby:Yeah, but like, okay.
George:Because that's why I asked you the question. Why do you think people don't do it? Like, say for I'm just gonna go back to construction. You're looking at their builders are on site, they're busy, they're running around all day, they're calling people. Yeah, they'll send some emails, they'll hear about this. They might go and chat to go, what's the square meter of how much does this cost a square meter? That's probably the extent of them using it, if using it at all. Then for them to de dig in deeper, I feel like it's oh, I have to learn how to do that. Oh God. You know, it's just like another task for them to do. Even though by investing half an hour, it'll probably save them tens of hours in work. I feel that people are really hesitant to go and do something new. And that's why they don't catch on early enough. And then eventually, when it becomes the norm, like every you saw when we first started doing events and we put our hands up. I remember the first time you mentioned Chat GPT at an event, there was six to ten hands that went up in a room full of 80 to 100 people. Now you go, and it was one or two that haven't got their hand up, yeah, you know, and that's only A year and a half, two years later. It's and I feel that that's where this browser is gonna be also the search engine's gonna be, as far as that is concerned. Like everyone's gonna say, Oh, do you use Google Chrome? Why the fuck would you use that? Unless Google Chrome then has Gemini built into it. Do you want me to do I want to give you a quick slap in the face?
Robby:Yeah, let's go for it. Fuck, that's fucked. That's fuck. That's fuck. Turn three in less than a month. That's oh sorry, sorry, just over a month. That's silly. Yeah, and the next month. That's silly. Yeah, the time's flying. Line. Flying. Um yeah, but so to go back to what I was saying, do you think it's a problem? Because I haven't worked out if it's a problem yet or not. What you think what's a problem, sorry? The whole dependency on tech. Like in the sense of like, hey, yeah, I've mentioned this before. I do write emails. Do you write emails?
George:Yeah, fucking on every day.
Robby:Yeah, but like, do you write them?
George:As in Yeah. Yeah, every day.
Robby:Okay, yeah. I just like if I'm gonna send a quick email, I just write it. Yeah. If I ask certain people on our team to send an email, I'll be like, hey, email so and so about this. And they'll go into chat and be like, can you write an email? And it's like, hey, write the fucking email. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you you that's you're not being quicker by doing that. Yeah. You might sound a little bit better, but you're gonna sound less, not less you.
George:Well, here's the thing, yeah. That's the thing now, right? People, I can you can tell when emails are generated by chat GPT.
Robby:Yeah, because people are using words that don't know how to pronounce.
George:That's right. But also it's like the way it structures the email with lines and hyphens and bold writing here and there and all that sort of shit. You go, okay, cool. That was just the chat response. So I think you're actually getting a little bit more credibility when you hand actually write an email yourself these days. But aside from that, I'm big on efficiency, but yes, I think there is I think that's a problem. What you see, yes, I do. I think you need to have a level of practicality about how you operate, and I think that'll be advantageous to you in the future. But is it being able to not necessarily doing it, just being able to, but is it what that's what I'm saying to you?
Robby:Because that's like fails, yeah. But that's like saying now, do you if you were in a okay?
George:If my car broke down, I shouldn't learn I should know how to ride a horse.
Robby:Yes, that aspect, like okay, cool. Now, so if all cars just stopped, like do you don't know how to ride a horse? I'll figure it out. I do.
George:You see, the thing is I for myself, uh knowing how my brain works, I'd be like, all right, let's fucking ride a horse. Whereas most other people would be like, no, no, we can't ride that. I said, Well, fucking we used to, I'm sure we can figure it out right now if we have to ride a horse. So there's probably needs to be a level of I don't know what the word is.
Robby:I think we're losing that thing though.
George:Yes, that's what I mean. I think we're losing it 100% because things are just there now. And so I said it the other day. Why do I need to learn my times table? Why do kids need to learn their times table? You know, everyone zero benefit. Everyone carries a calculator in their hand in their pocket. Yeah. Everyone. You don't need to learn your times tables, you don't need to learn a lot of history stuff. Okay. Who the who was the the 14th Prime Minister of Australia? Do you know what I mean? There you go. You can find that out really quickly. It's there's a lot of things that because of this device that we don't need to know or learn, or is not useful to us to sit there and study. And okay, if you don't know who the 14th Prime Minister was, well, you're gonna get a fail in your history exam and now you're dumb and you're not gonna go to uni.
Robby:Yeah, but like so, okay, so we don't we know we don't need that now. Yeah. But the next thing becomes like, how much do we not need? Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, like how far does this how far does it go? Because like stuck, okay, cool. Hey, we can still, you and I, like we can still do some basic math. Yeah, you can't. Like if I sit there saying seven plus four, you don't sit there saying, one sec, seven plus four, then you don't need a calculator. Now, if I tell you like a big number, okay, that's fine. But like, I think it'll get to the point where kids might sit there and be like, I don't know what seven plus four is. Let me you know what I mean? Let me check it out. Because I haven't worked out how to manually do it.
George:I saw a team, uh I actually think it was on social media, and they were showing some kid, they they called two kids in and said, you know, it was an American show. They're like, Who was tell me about the the Fifth Amendment in the Constitution and all that sort of stuff? And the kids just look at him and say, I don't know, is that something about freedom or some shit like that? And he's like, Yeah, cool, you've answered the question, thanks. And then he goes and gets his daughter, who's homeschooled, and he's goes, Tell me about the Fifth Amendment. And she's like, Oh, it's about this, this, this, and this. And then she goes, No, no, no, don't tell me what it is, tell me why we need it. And she answered the question, it was just a young kid, and she answered the question in a intel like what you were just saying, in an intelligent way, in a practical way, in the reason of knowing what it is and what it's about and all that sort of shit. And those kids that are taught the traditional way or distracted by their phones or just get everything from the phone couldn't answer or understand the question, whereas you had someone else who was taught in a different way.
Robby:Yeah, who could. We're losing the ability to critically think. Yes, and I think that's important, especially but but but is it that's what that's my argument. Not an argument, my I don't know the answer yet. Because like I do think it sounds important, like it seems to me. That's what I mean. Like hey man, if you don't have that and I have that, I'm gonna crush you. Yeah, I think from a level of indo innovation, did they think the same thing 50 years ago and think if you can't fix the cars and I can, I'm gonna crush you. And it's like, well, you didn't because tech made that thing uh less valuable.
George:Okay, but uh it'd be interesting to ask Elon that question. Call him, call him. Yeah, I will. After the podcast, I will. But do you know what I mean? Because he he's a critical thinker, yeah. Yeah. It'd be interesting to ask someone who is a critical thinker, or would he then say, no, no, well, I'm gonna stop critical thinking now because I've got this. It thinks 50,000 times faster than me and more critical than me. But the questions he asks it would be a lot more intelligent than the person that's always reliant on this. You know, and again, I saw another post the other day. It's like, we're the last generation that grew up in a time before technology and then saw the technology come in and evolve to what it is today. We're gonna be that we are that last generation. We're like that. What a time. What a time to be like how fucking how's the timing on that? Man, we could we we won the lottery there. Or was it millennials? I think it's millennials. I don't know how the fucking generations work, but my generation, your generation, we grew up with analog TVs, like you used to go outside, ride a bike, used to come home when it was dark outside. That's how you knew the time to come home. There was no cell phones, your parents didn't know where you were, or whatever it was. Like I used to, I remember I used to ride my bike from Mount Wavely to sorry, from Burwood to Mount Waverley, or Billwood East to Mount Waverley to see my friends. And you had to get back in.
Robby:There was no way, no case.
George:Yeah, just had my had my watch. You had a watch. I'm like, okay, cool. Or I'd go, hey, let me can I call your mum, can I call my my mum on the house phone and on the landline? So I'd go, hey, I'm just at John's house. We're just gonna chill out here for a bit. I'll be back before dinner.
Robby:And you had to memorize the phone number.
George:Yeah, 98038113.
Robby:Call, call someone. They don't live there anymore, so I heard you uh I heard your mother made some turmoil.
George:You you could have heard it or you could have eaten it. So which which might I've only heard it at this point. Um but I will have some. It's in the fridge. Yeah, hey, it's better than that place we went down the road, by the way. Uh E. That's that's that's offensive to compare the two, I think.
Robby:Oh shit. That's good. Should have should have got my sister working here earlier. But yeah, yes, yes, um, but yeah, that's that's my my dilemma. I think it's a valid. I'm seeing it with team members now, and I'm like, hey man, like you should you need to.
George:I'm gonna say yes, man. I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm hoping I'm not being biased because that's what I'm not.
Robby:Well, that's what I'm saying in the sense of like, did they say yes back then? But and think like how are they better by not? How are they better by leveraging that? It's not, it's not, it's like it's irrelevant, it becomes irrelevant. It's like you're not better for it because the thinking process has become so advanced that even though you know how to think, it doesn't matter because we all depend on this thing that thinks way better than anyone.
George:Yeah, however, way better, sorry. However, you're the boss, hey?
Robby:You're the boss for now, until you're not, until it can observe everything, until all of a sudden But then won't you then use that tool at its at another level as well compared to all everyone else?
George:Yes, yes, but that's what I'm saying.
Robby:No, no, you're not gonna become stagnant, but it is like I'm saying you as a critical thinker. Okay, so let me I'll put it to you this way: think about the uh agricultural, what's it called? The uh industrial revolution. Think about the industrial revolution, okay? So for those, if you don't know what the industrial revolution is, it was when machinery came into play, right? So everyone, 95% of jobs were in agriculture, in farming. And it's like everyone was working in that industry because the biggest thing for humans was we just need to make sure we can keep eating. We need to make sure that everyone's fed and this is all, and then it's like all of a sudden machines came in and it wiped out all the people that were doing that job. Now, if this was 1800 and/or whenever, I don't know what the time frame is. It's I think it's in the 1800s. Uh before the Industrial Revolution, it would have been massively beneficial for you to be bigger, stronger. You would have a massive up. Like you would have a huge upside. Yeah, big to be big and strong, yeah, and able to work. And all of a sudden, now you can advance further than I can. The industrial revolution leveled out that playing field. Now it doesn't matter if you're tall, short, fat, skinny. I can be fat and disabled and stuck in a chair all day. And like, look at some of the smartest people in those, like Stephen Hawking, for example, right? Genius like mentality couldn't move, but could think because that was the next stage. Now, this is gonna level out the thinking field in the sense of how intelligent you are is gonna get heavily leveled out.
George:It's gonna get irrelevant.
Robby:Yeah, because all of a sudden it's like, oh, like, okay, so so I'm this smart. And for those uh listening to this, like let's just say I'm at level one and you're at level three, and it's like you have a huge advantage over me. But when AI is at level 4,000 And every day it's getting smarter, and it's irrelevant, every day it's going up by 100. Whether I'm one and you're three, it doesn't even make a difference because this thing is well beyond all of us. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
Robby:It's like it's like you can't, if you're a faster runner than me, none of us can outrun a car.
George:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
George:And it's also say, say you go back to your industrial revolution. What if someone sat there and said, Yeah, but what if all the machines break down one day?
Robby:That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and then there would have been people saying that's in there, like, nah, it's still good to be able to.
George:We need to be able to do this.
Robby:It doesn't matter.
George:It doesn't matter now. If the machines break down, we're all fucked. And then you're gonna call me up because I'm the biggest, strongest, baddest guy in the f in the field. Yes, picking corn. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
Robby:Do you get do you get what I'm saying though? Like in the sense of there would have still been the person saying, oh no, no, but we still need the skill that we originally had. That I'm just playing the other side of the argument. I still believe the ability to critically think is gonna be the thing that determines your survival or not for now. You know what I mean? You want to stay away from danger, you want to be able to problem solve. Yes. For now. But is that going to become completely irrelevant as AI starts to do everything for us? Like you saw yesterday, just sent you a text message.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Robby:You know, now I had to tell it what to say, but who's to say in the future it won't be so fast that it consumes all the history and all the notes of everything between them? It's like, cool, I got everything on these guys. Yeah. Because I just did a quick Google search, took all their transcripts from every single podcast episode, and I've got Robbie's voice down pan. I'm actually gonna call George and pretend I'm Robbie, he's gonna have no idea.
George:I'll be so pumped in that day. It'll be great. Especially when he starts swearing at me or she or it.
Robby:Yeah. Like we we are not ready for what's coming. I'm telling you right now, like still, still, till this moment now, we're all thinking like, oh yeah, I'm AI, I'm this, I'm that. Tell people like that. Tell me, I love using AI, man. We want to get on the AI bandwagon. Still grossly underestimated.
George:Yeah, it's funny because I'm finding a lot more, especially in your presentations at our events, I'm finding a lot more people are resonating with the things that you're talking about now. Have you noticed that? Yeah, I feel like you're getting a lot more engagement and a lot more people wanting to get on board with a lot of the stuff that you're doing.
Robby:Yeah, I think the AI thing is that's what I mean, is a big part of it. That I think also I think I've I've bettered the presentation. Oh, without a doubt.
George:Uh yeah, you get better by it by default.
Robby:Yeah, just by repetition. Um, but yeah, man, that's my and then it's like, do we need because it because I won't lie, it pisses me off. When I sit there and say, what do we do here? And they're like, I don't know, and then they try and type it into chat straight away. And I'm like, hey, like just fucking think for a moment.
George:Like give it a crack.
Robby:Yeah, like just it I'm cool, I'm cool. If we're gonna get the answer like that, that's great. But like every little thing, you know what I mean? Uh email error. Hey, chat, it said email error. And it's like, hey, it said email error because you fucking typed the email wrong. Like, look at the email.
George:Yeah, that's it. You know what I mean? Like, that's right.
Robby:That's my I was playing um, I bought a Nintendo Switch, you know. Totally run and bought a Nintendo Switch. Bought a Nintendo Switch too. I was playing Super Mario.
George:Like it?
Robby:I was fucking great. Mario Super Mario. Yeah, the old one though. The old one? Yeah, yeah. I was playing the old one.
George:You bought the latest game to play the oldest game.
Robby:It comes with it, it's a fucking great game. I know, I got it too. And um, I was there playing Super Mario. Oh, how good. The nostalgia. Oh, it's fucking the even the music. Yeah, I got stuck on a stage. Chad fixed the pass this level for me. So, like, I'm like, I got stuck on the stage, and then I'm like, how do I um and you know how there's like secret doors and all this jazz? And I'm like, I couldn't work it out. So I messaged someone and I said, Hey, how did you pass this stage? And they sent me a YouTube link, and I watched the YouTube video and it showed me and I went and did it. Yeah, and then I thought, dude, like that wasn't available when this game came out.
George:How funny, I'll do that too. I've done that before. On I was playing, I started playing some uh Zelda, like I don't know.
Robby:The most recent one?
George:Oh, the one that's on Switch, whatever the one that is, one of them. It was just my one of my son's games. I was just bored by kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I started playing it and then I got to some level and I couldn't figure it out.
Robby:Yeah, and then I literally just went on YouTube and typed it in and like And then it shows you, and then you're like, but then the thing becomes like, hey, how did you work it out initially?
George:Back in the day. Like that it was like trial error, right?
Robby:It was like I'm just gonna keep running around, then I'll go back and I'll come back and I'll go back and I'll just fucking yeah, until I work out what thing I needed, what I had to pick up, or whatever it was.
George:You ever get real pissed off that you had to turn it off? Me because you couldn't figure it out. Story of my life, yeah. So I used to I used to get so shitty sometimes, I couldn't figure it out, and then I'd turn it off and go away, and then I wouldn't play it for days and then come back and pass it the first time. Yeah, but now we've got that thing where we're like, okay, cool, let me go.
Robby:Yeah, but it's like and it's like, is that a bad thing though? Is it like I don't know, I I don't know if it's a bad thing. Do I think you'll get more out of it by critically thinking? Yes, but is that gonna become something that's completely irrelevant, just like your ability to run super fast?
George:I'd say from the perspective of I'm gonna say yes, it is. I'll tell you why, but like it being a disad a disadvantage to you. To to do to do that, yeah, for people like to always be reliant on on a chat. Because it's not always, I mean, is it literally gonna get to the point where you've got it plugged into your ear 24-7? Of course it's gonna get to the point. Yeah, so then maybe it's not. Because like I'm saying from yourself, no, no, but I'm just saying from today, right? If you're young, you're you're the younger employees are just like, oh, it says email error. Why is it saying email error? Because you put three atts after the fucking.
Robby:Because you didn't look at what you typed. Yeah, exactly. Open your eyes.
George:Yeah, um, but then in the real world, like say we go to your coffee, like me, we're going for coffee, and there's a problem with the table because it's out of balance. All right, that's the the thing moves, and everyone goes out onto chat. Like, why is this coffee table bump moving? I said, Yeah, what the fuck? Just put a napkin under one of the legs so it stops bouncing, or whatever you do. Do you know what I mean? Is that I feel like is okay.
Robby:Is that a bad thing? Let me give you another example. Okay, that's uh that might be relative. When you something happens to a body part, you get a headache, you feel some type of sickness. What do you do now?
George:Yeah, take band at all, go to bed.
Robby:Huh?
George:It's not a pain, it's something I I don't Doctor Google, but yeah, what you say. What do you do? Uh I don't know. Probably just depends what the pain is.
Robby:Like, what do you reckon your doctor does? You reckon? You don't reckon? You reckon just Googles it? I reckon they're chat GPT.
George:I'm gonna call up my mate and be very upset.
Robby:Call him, call him now.
George:I'm gonna be very upset if he just goes, if people okay patients come in and see him and say, Hey doc, I've got a weird rash. It's like, oh interesting. Okay, yes, just take this crazy replies.
Robby:Where the doc's on chat GPT and the guy's like, I fucking hope he's paying for premium. Um, I'll be upset. I've got to call my mate. No, no, but like, so okay, take take the doctor aspect out of it. Yeah, what do most people do?
George:Yeah, they'll go on Dr. Do Dr. Google and try to figure out they got is that person?
Robby:Yeah. Which which is but I think it's more accurate now. Like I think if you jump onto Google or chat.
George:Oh, dude, remember when we went to the States and I literally my hernia came out of the States. Yeah. Like that's when I kind of felt it, like I had that bump of the state. And you Googled it. I Googled it. Ah, there you go. So there you go.
Robby:So it was exactly because it was like, I've got this weird bump underneath, and it's like, oh, so when you get something weird, something happens to your body, you've got some type of pain, some type of rash, whatever it might be, you go and go. Yeah, yeah. So now the old school way would have been like a rub some garlic on it. Yeah. Now, are you better or worse for Googling it over knowing to rub some garlic on it? Even though, hey, even though I've heard of old school things where they're like, go rub an onion on it and it fucking works. Yeah. Right? The placebo. Whatever it is. Placebo, if it works, it works, it works. Like, who gives a fuck? Oh, but it only works because you believe it. And I got the result. Who cares? Um give me some garlic. Yeah, give me some fucking garlic. Is the person better for knowing that stuff, or are they better for having the ability to go and search? Like right now, if you and an old person. Same difference. So me and me and my best friend. If you if you and an old person uh can't wait for you to get fucking gray hair, we're in a chimney. Yeah, we're in a position like that. It's like you're probably better off. You're probably better off because you can probably work it out and they're probably gonna try and rub garlic on it. Like, or whatever their old school methodology is. You know what I mean? Drink fucking peppermint tea, whatever they do. Like they have all sorts of, you know, you got a stomach ache. What it what do what do Greek people do with stomach aches? Um Lebos make you put your feet in hot water.
George:And it fucking works. Hey, I've heard I've heard that for migraines. Oh, dude, it boils boiling water and put your feet in it. Put your feet in it. What put your very hot water and put your feet in it um for a migraine. I actually haven't tried it before, but I want to. I don't know if it's a stomach ache, works a treat.
Robby:Oh, never knew that one. Wild. Yeah, there you go. You heard it here first.
George:Heard it here first. Um, yeah, maybe a chamomile tea or something like that.
Robby:Yeah. Have you I've heard that if you've got I wouldn't even say a chamomile tea is still a more recent is it? Like as uh a 90-year-old's not gonna be like we used to have chamomile tea in the 30s. They're not gonna say that. They're not I don't know what the I don't know what the equivalent is. Um but do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. In the sense, so are you better off for being able to do that now? Yeah, now yeah, absolutely. Okay, so are these people gonna be better off for having the nouse to go and search everything straight away instead of wasting their time trying to figure it out? Yeah, it's the equivalent of if you if you were to zoom in a little bit and you said, like, okay, cool, I'm fixing a car with someone, an old school mechanic, and his thing is like, I'm gonna try and work it out and look at it, and you watch the YouTube video with it.
George:Let's let's let's do let's do this. Let's pretend we're at the cafe and everyone here, there's six people, and they're all trying to figure out like the tables lopsided.
Robby:You've got a serious table lopsided like that.
George:All right, okay, go and they're all there and they pull out and like they're all doing that, right? They're like, fuck. And they all pull out their phones, all six of them, and they're like, Why, or all five of them? Why is the table lobsided? And by the time they finish, I've already gone under and fixed the table. And they look, they all look at me and they go, Wow, like what the fuck? How did you do that? Do you reckon they would then be impressed by that? Do you know what I mean? Like, in the sense of how did you figure that out? Are you some sort of a fucking genius that you did it without chat? That's fucking weird, man. You're a freak. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It's like I don't know. Is there a level of people like becoming too like would they become too dependent on it? Yes, yes. That's what I mean. So then not to be able to critical think from a let's see, I'm just like survival of the fittest type scenario. Or are they the fittest and we're not? Do you know what I mean? Like, is is is there a level of needing to have critical thinking? Like, should I step in front of the tram? Should I step in front of the tram? Let me fucking just get chat at right now. Yeah, I don't think we I don't think that that's exactly to that extent. But I'm saying does it get to the table? I get what you're level does it get to the level where you're even if it's plugged into your ear, hey Chatch, what's what's the what's the issue with this table? And then before they've even got the answer, someone's just gone there and fixed it. I don't know. Is that I still feel that there's gonna be a level of people being able to think for themselves.
Robby:A specific scenario.
George:I know a specific one. I'm just trying, but why why can't we? Um if we can't apply that to other specifics.
Robby:Yeah, I think it's gonna get less that'll become less less the same way. Someone you could be like, I've got this pain here, and they're like, go do this. But out of a hundred people, there might be one person who can give you a home remedy now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Robby:Whereas 60 years ago, 80% of people might have known a home type remedy. But it's just become less prevalent because now it's like, well, go see a doctor or go see a having easy access to doctors, has that been better or worse? Because it's definitely made you know less about yourself because every time something goes wrong, they need to go to the doctor. Yeah, potentially, but this is the same. But but the thing is critical thinking is so fucking important. You know what I mean? And um yeah, I don't know. I'm playing devil's advocate here, by the way. I do part of me heavily thinks it's important and I believe unless it becomes completely irrelevant, I think it's gonna matter. Which is irrelevant. That's my two cents. Heard it here first. So if you want to be a critical thinker.
George:Okay, you know everything you know right now. You're ahead of the game. Would you say you're ahead of the game when it comes to AI?
Robby:What's the game?
George:Are you ahead of 80% of the people when it comes to AI?
Robby:90% of the people. Wait, I'd be I'd I would go on as far as as saying I'm in the point zero one.
George:Yeah. I walk into your office. Yeah. Sorry, anyone say something?
Robby:No. But I was gonna say, like, most that's because most people have no fucking idea.
George:Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's right. So I walk into your office yesterday, I'm like, how you going? And you go, I'm not a billionaire yet. You're pissed off. I said yet. Yeah, but you're pissed off. Do you feel that this is the vehicle that's gonna take you there? Because I've heard so many things that AI is gonna make more multi-millionaires than anything else in the next five years.
Robby:Yeah, but like, so you've got to look at it like this. The people who invented things that were applicable for the internet wrote a big wave. So think like someone who made YouTube back, millionaire. But like YouTube was just a platform that leveraged the internet. So this is gonna be something similar. Like it might be someone who creates a particular mechanic for a robotic arm that allows it to feel.
George:Does that make sense? Yeah, so if I've lost my arm and I have a robotic arm, and when I pick up the Coke can, I can feel that it's cold.
Robby:Yeah, like think about that level of technology. Yeah, I'm not gonna invent that. Come on, give it a go. I just I'm not a field I'm interested in. Um not interested in that. But I think there is a huge opportunity with uh helping people implement this into their lives, you know what I mean, into their businesses. You know, uh we've been doing AI implementation sessions, and to be honest, I'm sharing some basic stuff and people are blown away.
George:Yeah, but is that from our recent training?
Robby:Yeah, and people are blown away though. They're like, oh, I never knew you could do that. I'm like, dude, like this is not this is not even new.
George:Are you finding people are coming back from those sessions?
Robby:Yeah, I think we're finding people are have we're finding custom solutions for people to save them time. Yeah, because that's what it's gonna do for you, AI. It's gonna save you time and allow you to do a better job. And we're finding particular things based on people's businesses uh where they'll invest you know a thousand dollars and they'll save 20 hours a month. And then it's like also like 20 hours a month for a one-off investment? It's like fuck that's a pretty fucking good return on on your money. Um that's all we're trying to do with people right now. But I I think there's a huge opportunity there. Huge opportunity. And I think this is I've said this before, I've said it a million times. This is creating YouTube videos in 2009. You know, and everyone's like, no. Like, think about it. What were we doing in 2009?
George:I was in 2009. I was in year nine. So what? Am I 2002? No, sorry. It was 1999, I was in year nine. So 09. Yeah, I was working, man. What were we doing? How old are you? I don't know. 30 uh uh 26? Yeah, so mid-20s? Yeah, what were we doing? What were you doing? Working at a I think it was Abbey Group at that stage.
Robby:So imagine I can't uh it's just the my job. Yeah, but I want you to think specifically to like a a particular event at that time. Okay? So what were you doing? What what what site were you working on?
George:Yeah, on a school. Building schools. Where about Cranburn.
Robby:Fuck. Cranberne's been around since 2009. Fuck. Anyway, then then imagine George you didn't we were you didn't know me, but I was one of the workers there. And I turned to you and I'm like, hey George, we should make videos of us at work. And you would have looked at me and said, Don't touch me. Fuck off. That's what you would have said. You would have been like, You're a fucking idiot. And do some real work. That's what you would that you especially you especially would have said that. You'd have been like, fuck off, go do some real work, stop being lazy.
George:I remember when the iPhone actually came out. When did the iPhone come out? The first one. You know what you are? 2004. Was it that early? Was it then? I don't think it was then, then. Or five.
Robby:How old was I no no, hold on. 2000. Yeah, no, no. Something like that. Really?
George:I thought it was later, man. I thought it was like around 09. I'll tell you when it was. Okay, I've got a bit better memory now. So I just started at Abbey Group in 09.
Robby:2007.
George:7, 8, 9. Okay, so yeah, all right. I remember when one of the first well the first iPhone I ever saw was an employee, one of the guys I worked with showed how to phone. All right, you remember that beer app? Yeah, and it'll hold it and pretend you drink that. He showed me that, and I was like, is that what it does? Yeah, cool. Look at my phone. G'day, mate. Hi. Um, what was the point of that story? So, yeah, that was when the first that's the first time I saw an iPhone, let alone ever having one or a smart device. So, yeah, had you had you had even said to me, Let's make a video, I'd be like, did the first iPhone have a camera in it?
Robby:Did no?
George:Yeah, I think you could take photos, yeah. But I don't think you could uh other than that, that's pretty much it. But I'm saying, what a weird concept for someone to say, Hey, let's make videos and just you know, we'll we'll post them on the internet.
Robby:Yeah, but most new concepts before we're used to them sound weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Robby:Like in the sense of if you told people like, hey, take a photo of your food and post it, most people would be like, Why would I just wild, what a wild thing to do until one person did, and then everyone was like, Oh, that looks great. And then it was like, Oh, like, look at the positive reinforcement. You know what I mean? And now it's like we've got a fucking there's people who make livings off that now going around and eating food. I was doing p2 reviews. There's people that go around making a living. Hey, I'm well overview. I'm also overweight. That's what I'm over.
George:Um I had a pizza the other day. Pizza's good. We should have a pizza night. Here? Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
George:Yeah. Let's do it soon. Next week. Oh not next week. What next? No, we're busy next week. No, I'm busy. We're both busy. Uh the week after. Done. Why? Why are you both busy next week? Um I've got a training on next week. I don't know. I think weren't you away next week? No, it's not this. It's the week after. This we're still in October. Yeah, no, didn't you say you on Melbourne Cup weekend you're going away, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh November.
Robby:Yeah. Um but yes, we should do that. We should have to do that. Let's go get the guys here, get some guys here from site. Um how did we get there? Yeah. Most most new things people tend to have a little bit of pushback on. And right this is now that. This is the same thing, George.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Robby:Do you know what I mean? The same way people weren't using chat when it first came out. Just because it's had a quicker uh adaptation than or adaption than most things, like people have adopted to it much faster.
George:It doesn't Yeah, that's right. People have it. I think people do adopt to things a little bit more now.
Robby:Well, it's just less strange. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, we kind of information spreads faster now. It does, it spreads way faster. Yeah. So it's like we be we we hear about it and become, but there's still people who don't use chat. My mum won't use chat. Yeah. She freaked when she did talk back to me. How funny. You don't you know if you talk to chat in a different language, it replies back in the language.
George:Yes, that's so cool. My dad did it the other day. We were talking Greek. He he was using he's got a paid version of Gemini though. And then he starts talking English and then he goes, and he starts swearing at it at just out of just it was funny. Um and it started responding back in Greek. And we couldn't believe it, it was so funny.
Robby:Yeah, yeah. It's they speak all languages. All of them, who would have thought?
George:Yeah, it's it's funny. It is like especially people that don't my wife, I don't think, uses it very much at all, if any. And just the other day, I was like when I was just having a call, I was asking, I was speaking to chat on there, and she was like blown away just because of the way it was responding to the questions I was asking it.
Robby:I think um and and you're always gonna have the people who don't adapt. There's still people right now that are like the internet, you know what I mean?
George:Honestly, I was surprised at our last at the last training I did that there was someone in the room who had a business but didn't have a website. And not like I've just started my business and I'm still building it. I've been building for years and I don't have a website. Like, why don't you have one? Don't need one. It's like saying, I don't know, I find that odd. It's like saying I don't have a mobile number. Just call the just fax me.
unknown:Yeah.
Robby:Imagine that I'm sure there's someone out there who does that.
George:Do you know there's I see on email signatures or even like invoices and some or some shit, I still have a fax number. That upsets me. That upsets me a lot. A fax number. I'd send you a fax.
Robby:Speaking of having stuff on your invoices and stuff, nothing bothers me more than having it at gmail.com.
George:Nothing bothers me more. Silly. If you're listening to the and what you mean by that is Robbie Holmes at Robbie Robbie Robbie Digital Marketing Pt Y L T Dobbby Cmail.com Robbie C at Gmail.com. Um Yeah, that's the biggest it is, it's silly in this day and age. Absolutely silly.
Robby:But yeah, that's my AI rant for today. I think uh if you have a MacBook, maybe by the time this comes out, maybe they've dropped it on PC. I'm not sure. On Windows.
George:Let me know. Oh, you won't know.
Robby:Me? I wanna know.
George:I'm gonna ask it when I get out.
Robby:Yeah. Uh but maybe they will. And then if it has, I think I highly recommend if you've got a MacBook, you can go check it out right now. It's free, yeah. So if you've already got chat, you just need to sign in. You don't have to pay for it. It's literally like downloading any other browser. It's called ChatGPT Atlas. Uh, you can type it in search, you can Google it. Google it to replace Google. Um, and then download it, give it a crack. I think it's quite cool. There's also a YouTube video where you can actually watch a 20-minute presentation on Israel app. Uh good question. Let's find out right now if there's an app. I don't think so. But that's not to say that there won't be. Chat GPT Atlas. No. Not yet. But it'll come. Um, and then it can do things for you. And I think I genuinely think, unless you're in the middle of calculating your numbers and jumping on a trampoline, you will most likely be impressed. Uh, but if you do get a chance to check it out, I would love to know what you think. Send me a DM. Send me an email, send me something.
George:Get even better, get Atlas to send Robert something.
Robby:Atlas. Yeah, that's what we call it now. That's it. It's changed. No more chat? No. Do you ever go to say hey chat and it writes hey Jack? And then you're like, ah, fuck it. I'll just keep I'll just roll with it. I'll just roll with it. Mine says Chad.
George:Chad? Yeah, so I'll be like, when I do voice to text. Or when I'm speaking to it, it says hey Chad. I'm like, I didn't say Chad. I said Chad. C-H-A-D.
Robby:C-H-A-T.
George:No, I it it it hears me say it thinks I said Chad with a D. Yeah, so it's better than Jack. Much better than Jack. Do you know a weird thing? And just the in closing. I feel like used to always happen to me. Always happen to me. And it I used to think it was just a coincidence, but it's it happens too often not to be. I'll pick up my phone, someone calls me that I don't know, or whatever it might be. I said, hello, George speaking. Alright, that's generally how I'll answer the phone if I don't know the number. And they respond with, I'll get A. Stewart. No way. I swear to God, bro. I swear to God. Actually, what would be funny? Check this out.
Robby:What's his name? That's a um I'll tell you what I think that have you ever have Keep going.
George:I'm gonna call the guy on space. Because seeing as we're calling people live, I I have never corrected him. He actually saved my name as Stuart in his phone, I'm pretty sure.
Robby:So every time I call him, he goes, get a Stuart. What do you mean they have a phone call on the podcast? I'm just gonna go take up on him. So it's so many. Sorry, mate. Sorry, I'm gonna meet off. By the way, if you do that, if you get calls and you pick them up and then say, sorry, I'm in a meeting, that is one of the most on both sides. To be the person in the meeting with you is annoying, and to be the person calling you, you pick up the call and then you introduce yourself and then like oh I'm in a meeting. And it's like why'd you answer though?
George:Yeah, you don't want to talk to me.
Robby:Why'd you answer the call?
George:Let it go through to the key.
Robby:Yeah, why don't you just let it go through? I would have left you a voicemail, sent you a text, and called you three more times that day.
unknown:No.
George:Or you could have just left one of those voice messages to text, because Robbie loves those. Yeah, big fan.
Robby:Big fan. Voice uh what are they called? Audio memo. I don't know. Audio memos. Um, yeah, go check it out. ChatGPT Atlas. Um, you can check it out, Stu.
George:Yeah, 100%. Stu. Get on to it. Yeah, I will. As soon as it's available on PC, I will definitely download it. I will definitely download it. Not gonna go buy a Mac. I'll not find a Mac. Never be Mac. PC all the way. Although I've got an iPhone and I won't change that.
Robby:Creature of habit. Man doesn't like change. Creature of habit. Um check it out, you won't regret it. Uh it's pretty cool. And it's pretty user-friendly too.
George:Yeah, that's what you want. Want it to be easy.
Robby:Don't want it to have to learn how to write code to use it. And let me know if you do. I'd uh I'd love to hear what you can get it to do.
George:Excellent. Well, guys, thank you so much for tuning in on another episode of Million Dollar Days. I hope you're having a million dollar day.
Robby:And if you're not having a million dollar day, it's probably because you're not where you're at where you want to be with your business. Probably not. And so, George, what's happening on November 18th, November 20th?
George:Well, if you are living in Melbourne or Perth, or are you living no no Melbourne or Perth? Yeah, no, like Adelaide's in the middle. Oh, you didn't let me finish. Oh, sorry. Okay. So let me start again. So if you live in Melbourne or Perth, or any other state within Australia. Except Tasmania. Except Tasmania. We don't like you guys. It's too cold. Way too cold. We have the Builder Summit coming up. A one-day interactive event. Not interactive, that's probably not the right word. Intensive event, where you guys get to come in and spend the day with us, where we get to teach you all systems, processes, practical things that you can implement into your construction business. Robbie will be starring the marketing and AI presentation part of the day. And then I will be focusing more on proper systems and processes that you can use within your construction business to help you scale, to help you grow, and to really get into 2026 with a bang. Because I find at the moment most people in construction anyway are just solely focused on getting to the 20th or the 19th of December, their last day of the year, and moving heaven and earth to try and either finish a project or get to a certain stage. And where they trip up, in my opinion, and what I've seen over the years is they're so focused on the next eight weeks, they don't even plan for 26. And I think that's a mistake. I think that's leaving it to your competition to take care of. And when you do that, you will lose. So if you want to win, register your details for the Builders Summit. I'm sure the boys will link it in the comments or something below. Girls. Of course they will. Girls. The girls. The girls. Girls good. Girls can do just as much as what the boys can do. Yeah, probably won't be as good, but shit. Shit.
Robby:Shots. We'll just get shorts wet.
George:When I mean by boys or girls, we're talking about chat will do it all.
Robby:Yes, of course.
George:It's not Robbie's not going to do it. AI is uh gender neutral.
Robby:That's right.
George:Yeah.
Robby:That's right. It's uh non-binary. It's not non-binary.
George:It is that. So he'll get his AI agents to do all the work for us to make it easy for you to register. And the beauty is it's a free event. It is a free event. We do we have done everything in our power to make it easy for you to get to the event. All you have to do is rock up. Now, there are paid versions too, or paid option bonuses. If you want some of the bonuses, there are bonuses there. I'm not going to go into them, but there are gold and VIP tickets available for which you do get a little bit extra and a few more perks. But either way, it's going to be an experience like no other. Yeah, you don't want to miss it.
Robby:And and touching on what you said just then as well about the people who are focusing on the future and trying to get to December 19th. Is that the last day?
George:Yeah, it's going to be for me. Like a Friday. Yeah, Friday.
Robby:Yeah, okay. So people focused on that. I heard this great quote today, and I shared it to my story. And it was Jimmy Carr. And he goes, People are so focused on the future. Like we're always focused on like getting that thing and the next thing. It's like, you know, oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna can't wait to get the next year, or can't wait to finish this, or can't wait until I finish work today, or like, you know, fuck, it's been a rough week. I can't wait for the weekend. We're always like focusing on and he's like you will give up in 25 years, you will give up everything to have today's health. He's like, you'll give up everything materialistically, you'll give up all ever all the money, everything you've earned, all the goals, everything you've achieved to have the health you have today and how you feel today, like the physical ability. Like you would give it all up in an instant to come back to where you are right now. And that really grounded me when I heard it, because I was like, I feel all right, feel good, might go get a pizza. Um and I think sometimes we just need to focus on the present, like now, like this is now, right now, nothing else matters. Now that's it. This is all that you have in front of you. And whilst it's good to have goals and work towards things, it's like be present in this moment. I think that's the most powerful thing.
George:So powerful. It is so true though. So true. So true, yeah. Look, we're goal-making machines, aren't we?
Robby:Yeah, it's like the thing. Even uh Alex Homozy did $100 million in three days, and then he kind of celebrated, and he's like, Thanks, everyone, and then like thanks, thanks, thanks. He's like, All right, we've celebrated for three minutes, let's move on to the next goal. And he said it as a joke. He's like, Isn't that what we do? Like we always do that, right? We you know, work our asses off, kick the thing, and then be happy for three minutes, feel good about myself, and what's next? And I was like, like you said it in a joking way, but there was a part of it you could tell that kind of meant it. Yeah, yeah.
George:So do you think it's important then once you do achieve that goal to have that like that rest and that reward for yourself? Like, yes and no. Do what you want. That's what you want. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with it. But you were saying with grounding yourself in the moment.
Robby:Yeah, but I think like even when you don't get the thing, like, hey man, you're fucking here now. You're alive. Do you know what I mean? Like you're here right now, and it's like there's points in life where like you would kill to have these problems and these problems alone. You know what I mean?
George:There's this thing that I want to do at a training because I think it's a really powerful thing. And you know how we do little things like you know, how many weeks you got left in your life and all that sort of stuff. But there was this one pro thing that I saw, it was a guy and he was reading off a piece of paper because it he had to, unless he memorized everything. It's like for you to be here right now, to be sitting in this chair talking to me, you had to have two parents. All right, you had to have four grandparents, you had to have you know, so on and so forth. And he kept going up until and it was only like you can't count past four, huh? No, fuck sixteen, four, fours of sixteen. Well fours. No, so because each person would have two. Two, yeah. So what's that? Eight, eight, and then six, so it doubles each time.
Robby:It just yeah, doubles each time.
George:Okay, whatever it's gonna be. 32, and he kept going. I should have. You should have. And he kept going all the way. He only went whatever it was 10, 20, generate, whatever it was, and the number was astronomical. Yeah, and it's like it's like 1200 astronomical. Yeah, yeah. But that's like those 1200 people had to meet. Yeah, unless like their their lives had to meet at some and intersect at some point in time.
Robby:Unless your parents are cousins. Why? Because then they'd run through the same single. It's like a you've you're ruining my vibe. Haven't you heard that thing? Yep your your family tree is like a one-sided branch, like it's like it's like kids, cousins and cousins. I haven't heard that. Must be a libero joke.
George:It has to be a libo joke, 100%. So, but it was just it was cool just to really just go, fuck, you know what? That is so true. There's like 5,000 people that had to meet at an exact moment in time and have sex at that exact moment, and for that one millionth uh piece of whatever, for you just to be sitting here right now, like the probability, and I think Gary V says it as well. It's like it's like 400 trillion to one. And people don't fathom that. Like when he says that, people don't, oh yeah, whatever, I'm lucky. Woo-hoo. But when you actually look at it from that perspective and go, look how many of your generations had to come together for you just to be sitting here today, and what the fuck are you doing? You know, and you're just what are you wasting your life? You're feeling sorry for yourself. How lucky are you to even be fucking alive right now? It's the law of familiarity. Yeah. Uh it is, but and that's why it's great to be grounded when you hear things like that and to have that mindset and to have that level of in the it's funny, dude.
Robby:In the exact same clip, he says, I think we suffer from life dysmorphia. He goes, We forget how great our lives are. He goes, hundred years ago, he goes, like you you could be having a warm shower and not even care. He goes, hundred years ago, anyone you respected from a hundred years ago never had that pleasure, never got to have a hot shower.
George:They probably just didn't have them because it was so unpleasant.
Robby:So unpleasant?
George:Yeah, like they didn't have showers at all.
Robby:Yeah, no, they didn't have showers, yeah. They didn't and they're gonna have the ability to have hot water running at whatever pressure you want. Yeah, you know what I mean? And it's like we get all these things and we just it's normal.
unknown:Yeah.
Robby:When was did you jump in the shower and sit there? Wow, what a shower. What a life. Yeah. Most people don't. I'm gonna do it tonight. It's gonna be great. All right, on that note, guys, thanks for listening. If you haven't already, we're still trying to grow the subscriber channel. It's grown a little bit, but we're nowhere near near it. What we need to do. Jump onto YouTube. We're gonna uh implement a couple of changes. I've got a couple of things I need to discuss with you. Good, do it. Also, you're probably gonna see more clips because we're going to have. You know what? I'm just gonna leave it for the people to see it. Cliffhanger. And um leaving it on a cliffhanger. And we're gonna leave it at that. But if you really want to know what it is, you're probably gonna have to check out the Instagram page.
George:And also YouTube. We need to grow the YouTube. Yeah.
Robby:Get on the YouTube channel, subscribe at million dollar dayspod. Anything else you'd like to tell them, George?
George:No, that's all. Just take the action and appreciate the moment. If you're lucky to be here. And download ChatGPT Alice. Boom. All right. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, guys.