Work Harder Or Work Smarter: Sleep, Fitness, Focus

What if your “fun night out” quietly steals a full day of your best work? We dig into a rare midweek blowout that turned the next morning into a slog, then use that hangover tax to dissect what actually drives sustained performance: real leverage, deep sleep, clean inputs, and simple recovery habits that compound.

We get practical fast. Instead of worshiping long hours, we separate $100,000 decisions from $25 tasks and talk about how to defend your best brain hours. Alcohol takes center stage as a cultural norm with a real cost. The confidence it buys is short-lived; the bill comes due in slower thinking, duller judgment, and lost momentum. The point isn’t moralizing—it’s picking connection without sacrificing tomorrow’s output.

Sleep anchors the whole system. We compare Oura and Whoop as feedback loops, not flexes, and share the eye-opening daylight savings pattern linking an hour less sleep with next-day spikes in heart attacks. That’s how vital sleep is to cognition and health. We then zoom into daily levers: food choices that avoid the 2 p.m. slump, caffeine without the rebound crash, and a recovery stack that actually gets used—sauna, ice, strength, mobility—so you age into capacity, not out of it.

We also challenge the allure of pricey “preventative” health packages that upsell fear but deliver vague insights. Better to build a simple, evidence-based routine: regular bloodwork with clear targets, a training plan you can keep, and recovery tools you’ll use weekly. The through line is ownership: stop collecting knowledge you don’t apply. Set non-negotiables—sleep window, training days, alcohol boundaries—and guard them like revenue. That’s how you win more days than you lose.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Camera Setup And Banter
• 2:40 Framing The Topic: Sustained Peak Performance
• 3:35 Barber Shop Story And The Myth Of Luck
• 7:45 Leverage, High-Value Tasks, And Time
• 13:20 Culture Of Drinking And Its Costs
• 17:40 The Rufus Night: Choices And Consequences
• 27:30 Hangover Recovery And Self-Assessment
• 33:20 Social Pressure, Zero Alcohol, And Identity
• 41:40 Sleep, Wearables, And Tracking Readiness
• 49:00 Preventative Health Scans: Hype Vs Value
• 1:00:10 Defining High Performance Inputs
• 1:06:30 Gym Vs Wellness: Recovery As Strategy
• 1:14:40 Discipline, Sauna And Ice, Food Traps

Transcript

George: 0:25

I'm not exactly in the center. I don't think you have it like that anyway. I can move myself physically.

Robby: 0:40

Only because when Josh did it.

George: 0:42

So you're more okay, so you sit in your spot. You're more in the center now than I am. I'm to the right slightly. So I have to move closer to the side. I mean to have the mic in the middle of the screen. Oh then that I think the mic's in the middle of the screen.

Robby: 1:00

Mike's in the middle of the screen. Huh? Mike's in the middle of the screen. I'm just Yeah, Mike's in the middle of the screen, but you might have to move over to line up with me.

George: 1:08

So if I'm talking about it then my face is then my face is over the mic.

Robby: 1:11

Yeah, but I'm gonna move your camera.

unknown: 1:14

Okay.

Robby: 1:15

Does that make sense? So move your mic over a bit this way.

Speaker: 1:21

Yeah. Okay.

Robby: 1:24

Lean forward.

George: 1:26

That's that's where I'm gonna be.

Robby: 1:27

Yeah, cool. Because last time you caught it, your thing was half the edge of the screen the whole time.

George: 1:31

Yeah, right.

Robby: 1:32

And I had to edit it. Oh, that's alright.

George: 1:36

Alright, you happy with that?

Robby: 1:38

Yeah, that mic's in the middle.

George: 1:39

Yeah, yeah. I think it's in the middle. I'm saying I'm I'm slightly not.

Robby: 1:43

Yeah, no, you need to be slightly off. Like same thing with me, you say I'm slightly to that side. So they leave the the whole thing is like the open space should be the conversations. You talk into the open space. That's what they say. Fucking videographer. Expect nothing less. Master.

George: 2:06

Um we said we were doing welcomes and we don't we don't do it anymore, but then you're like we should do it. Almost listen. Okay. We can try it. Are you ready?

Robby: 2:24

Um I'm always ready. That's wrong. That's right.

George: 2:37

That's right. What are we talking about? I don't know, I was gonna go into that the whole I reckon maybe how you stay at peak. Like how do you constantly perform at work? Maybe things that you can do. Yeah.

Robby: 2:56

Okay, so alright.

George: 3:00

We can talk about say exercise, sleep, um obviously share the story of what of Thursday night. Um what else? I mean food would have to come into that too. Yeah, let's I I've got a good story to open up. Okay. You can open up first then. With your story, that is.

Robby: 3:30

With my story. Okay, so uh George, yesterday I was um I was getting a haircut. Do you like my haircut?

unknown: 3:39

It's good.

George: 3:40

First thing I just said that I did to you this morning.

Robby: 3:42

Nice fade. Fresh fade. Um I was getting a haircut, right? And I'm very I'm very lucky, by the way. I've got a haircut uh barber in my building. I've got hair, yeah. I've got a barber in my building. Oh, they're very uh much more efficient. Yeah. Depends how you look at it. Uh and aerodynamic. Yeah. I've got a barber in my building. So I literally just have to go downstairs and there's a barber there. It's a good barber, obviously. Yeah, I like I like him. Um and yeah, so like if my barber appointment's at 1.30, I leave at 129. Literally, and I'll get there right on time. And I'll walk in and the sea toys available, walk straight in, sit down, bang, out. And yesterday, I was getting a haircut, and I was sitting in the seat, uh, and there was there's three barbers that work in the store, right? And it was I was getting a haircut in in the in the right-hand seat, and there was a guy and getting a haircut in the middle seat next to me. I didn't know the guy. I know the barber, he's cut my hair before, but I didn't know the guy sitting with him. But they were talking like they were mates, and they're talking and they're going back and forth, and I hear them saying all this stuff about uh like, oh yeah, you know, that guy still going hard and he doesn't sleep, you know, like you can message him at 2 a.m., he'll reply, and then 4 30, he's at the gym, and then you message him at midnight and he's still awake, and then you're like, like, when does this guy sleep? And they're talking how about this guy's going super hard and taking all this risk and hasn't stopped and he's doing it because he's been through the mud. Um, blah blah blah. And I'm sitting there thinking, and I'm listening, you know, when you're listening to the conversation, but you're not looking at him, and I'm listening to the conversation, and I'm thinking to myself, I wonder who they're talking about. Like, I'd love to know, right? Anyway, so and then I found out who they were talking about. Cool. Yeah. They're talking about Adrian Portelli.

Speaker: 5:40

Yeah.

Robby: 5:41

Yeah. And then and then they're talking about how he works even now. Uh I don't know him or them. They could not know, I don't know if they know him. I don't know if they Well, they sounded like if you message him, so maybe one of them did. Yeah, like maybe. Yeah. Uh but I don't know if they just know him through business, if they know him personally, if they what the the situation is, but uh yeah, I think because they're from like the but I live in the West, and I think he's from the West.

George: 6:13

Yeah.

Robby: 6:14

Yeah, and they were from the West, and I was like, maybe maybe like he's a local boy, and they yeah, that they knew him from when they were younger or whatever. Uh but yeah, they were talking about how he's always working, non-even at that level, you know, and I found that um I found that really interesting. Because if there's one thing this year has taught me, it's the people who are doing more than you are doing more than you. Damn straight. Do you know what I mean? Like they're actually doing more than you. It's not most people don't get lucky.

George: 6:48

Yeah.

Robby: 6:48

There might be one. Yeah, there's there's a rule, there's an exception. Yeah, there might be the exception, but most people aren't getting lucky. I completely agree. Most people are doing way more than you're doing. Yeah, the harder you work, the luckier you get. Yeah, and that's just the reality. And it's like we can't even fathom that. Do you know what I mean? Because you think, oh, but I'm you know, I'm doing 12 hour days, I'm doing this, I'm working Saturday, I'm fucking and it's like you your output is shit. Yeah.

George: 7:12

Yeah.

Robby: 7:12

Like you are you might be working, but you're doing $25 jobs, $25 an hour jobs. Yes. Yeah, the very wasting all that time doing that, and you don't understand how to actually get the most leverage out of your time.

George: 7:24

Yes, I completely agree. And that's definitely something that's hit me this year as well. You know, I've I'm at a level, been doing this for 10 years as far as business is concerned and running my own business. And this year is probably the one year I've asked myself that question more than ever before, particularly because I had short staff shortages, I had difficult projects. When I say difficult, they just really consuming projects that needed a lot of my time and attention. I've had um other businesses as well that were going on. We've got this podcast, we've got like a thousand and one things going on. And to me, it's been like, well, what's what's the best use of my time? Like, am I doing the $25 task right now or am I doing the $100,000 task? And I think that's that's critically important that you ask yourself that because there's that rule, there's that saying that's like if if being the king of the jungle, oh what is it? If hard work is all it took, then the donkey would be the king of the farm.

Robby: 8:20

If hard work was all it took, then the donkey would be the king of the farm.

George: 8:24

Yeah, the donkey works harder than anyone else. So that's because you're I'm thinking in extreme. Yeah. That's right. Like if you're like uh hey, a laborer probably works a lot harder than I do. Yeah. A dedicated, yeah, a dedicated laborer that is gonna work that goes, I'm gonna put in a really solid day work day in, day out, because that's what I'm about. And by the way, if you are that person, apply within.

Robby: 8:48

Um Pascon.com. Oh, 100%.

George: 8:51

Get in touch. Get in touch, find me, just find me. If you're uh if you're a hardworking laborer or that type of person, leading hand, give me a buzz, 100% interested. But a side note, that person does work really hard, but is he going to be more successful or make more money than someone else that doesn't work as hard as him? That understands utilizing their time and doing all that sort of stuff. So, you know, that's great. Uh it's good to hear those sorts of stories, right? Especially for someone at that level who has made so much money and is still grinding and still working really hard because arguably he probably doesn't have to work another day in his life with the amount of wealth that he's created, or he could just put his business under management, say he you sort the shit out. And just go on the board and rock up every month to see the figures.

Robby: 9:39

Now, this is where figuratively speaking, these guys could have no idea.

George: 9:43

Absolutely. You're in a barber shop.

Robby: 9:45

This guy could be like not working at all.

George: 9:48

But uh he seems like he works. I mean, he's still creating, I still see his ads. It's not anyone else on the camera, you know. So he's still creating the ads, he's getting more people involved, yeah. But yeah, he's still doing the work. Do you know what I mean? There's the element of him not needing to do LMCT plus anymore, as in him, and I'm sure he has people behind him, but I'm just saying, like, there's an element of him not even needing to be there anymore, ever again. But he still is so good on him for that. Now, if I if someone do you drink alcohol? Like if someone says do you drink? Like, what would your answer to that be? Me. Yeah. Muslim. You're Muzzy. Don't touch it. Haram. Okay, so if someone was to ask me, do I drink? I would generally say no, not really. And I'm um not that I don't drink alcohol, I do, but I wouldn't consider myself a drinker. Like I have been intoxicated once this year. Once this year.

Robby: 10:51

When was that?

George: 10:52

Thursday night.

Robby: 10:53

Just passed.

George: 10:55

So on Thursday night, I went to Rufus, uh, Rufus DeSoul, an Australian. I don't know what they are. Are they a band? Are they DJs? I'm not too sure. Music producers. They're music people, they make music, people, bit sounds. Yep. And went to a con went to their concert. We booked it last year. So funny story, not that funny, but anyway, I'll tell it. So I booked tickets in October last year to go see Rufus, thinking it was in November. I was like, oh, that'll be a great night out. So I booked tickets for November thinking it was November 24. And then when I got the tickets, it said November 25. So we had to wait a whole year to actually go to the concert. So there's a bit of a build-up for it. So Thursday night we went to the concert, and just as a play, I had no intention of really having a big night out. It was just to go there, do the thing, and then come back home. And went out with mates. So we try to catch up on a monthly basis, but generally it's you know every couple months. And these are my close mates for the last 20 years. So I went to Middle Park Hotel first and I met with some people there because I I had um something to do with my son's football club. So had a couple of drinks there, then went to another friend's house. When I got there, he's like, Oh, do you want a scotch? I'm like, All right, I'll have one, no worries. So I had a scotch there, caught an Uber to the concert, and then saw my other mates there, and they're like, Oh, do you want a drink? I'm like, Oh, well, if you get one, I'll get one. And then they got four, so I'm like, All right, I'll have one. So the night just turned out to be a big night. If you get one, I'll have one. So they're evil. So they got four, yes, as you do. So it ended up being a really big night and didn't get home till 2 a.m. And yeah, it was me, and but by the time we left, it was me and three other mates. We ended up at Arbury afloat and then to the casino, and then yeah, ended up home. The next day, the next morning. So I'm an early riser. I'm normally up between 5:30 and 6 is generally when I'll get up, and then I make my way to the office anywhere between 6 and 6.30. I didn't get out of bed until 9 on Friday. And when I got out of bed, I was groggy. I was no good. No good whatsoever. I was like headache, dry mouth, needed to brush my teeth 15 times, had a cold shower, like nothing worked. Headache. And then stumble into the office, look at my phone, I got missed calls, and like, all right, let's get started. Up until at least two o'clock, I was working at 30% capacity. At least. It actually got to the point where I was gonna go home. Just because I'm like, what the fuck am I doing here? I'm not, I am not useful at the business right now. And I was gonna go home and then I had a Greek coffee and magically came good straight after that. So maybe that's the remedy, everyone. If you ever hung over, have a Greek coffee. But I felt good after that. But it got to two o'clock and I felt okay, but regardless, I was at half capacity. Yeah, it was probably time, yeah, because I was drinking water and whatever, had something to eat at that stage. So it could have been just time, but didn't come good to about 2.30, 3 o'clock, then did a couple of hours and then again, home. Uh got home, did the usual routine, and I was in bed by, I don't know, 9.30 and out like a light. And I've woken up fresh this morning. I feel, like I said to you this morning, feel totally fine. It was interesting to do that. Like, look, I had a really good night. I had a fun night out with my friends. Okay, and it did fill my cup. I enjoy going out with them and having a good night. But the next day it suffered. The next day for me was inefficient. Like I should honestly, had I not been at work and answered my maybe a few phone calls at home, I probably would have achieved just as much. So it was interesting though, and I'm glad I got to have that happen to me, that experience, because it then made me think, well, what sort of thing should I be doing if I want to be at optimum levels? Like someone yesterday beat me. Someone in else in construction, an owner of a construction company, he won the day over me. I lost it. So, what do I need to be doing in order to be at my best and always showing up and being the best version of myself? So uh that was a question I did ask myself. And the answer was do not go and see Rufus with five of your mates on a Thursday night. Do not book Rufus, do not do it. Do not do it. Uh, was the content good? I had a great night out. I had a lot. Yeah, it was content was great. Yeah, yeah, it was. I think it was, yeah. It was fantastic. Like we had, I knew all the songs, like it was just they were great entertainers, great musicians. It was Rod Label was sold out, like packed. And it was just a really fun night out. Like my mates were even the next day on WhatsApp, we're all talking about it, we're sending photos and videos and just stupid shit. But it was just it was just a really good night out. So yeah, I I still feel that okay, good. I filled the cup of the life aspect up in that night. However, the next day I I paid for it. And it's like you said it today. Like, you how do you feel today? I said, Yeah, I feel totally normal. I feel like nothing happened. But there's probably an element of me sitting on the couch today and then I'm gonna start to drift off because I'm still feeling the after effects. You know, there's probably still something. I'm probably not at 100%. I might be at 80 or 85. But you feel way better than yesterday. I've like yesterday.

Robby: 16:08

It's all um, it's all relative, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like someone who feels good today that's been operating at 30% their whole life gets to 70% and says, I feel amazing at felt this good. Like it's not even at full capacity.

George: 16:20

Yeah. So there's an there's that, but there's also I mean, age probably comes into play a little bit too. Yeah, you are I'm old. I'm old. Hey, and don't forget, like also that day, I woke up at early on the Thursday. So I was up at at 6, 5:36 again, and then getting home at two, like that's a long time to be awake and moving. And the body's just naturally doesn't is tight. Like I struggle when I don't get my sleep. So there's that element of it as well. Even though I got up at night. I wouldn't have slept well. No, I wouldn't have slept well, it would have been rubbish. I actually never checked my my aura ring. I should check that. But yeah, it would have been a rubbish sleep. Do you check it regularly? No, not not not so much. No, I probably should. You just not like you just don't think about it? I just don't, yeah. I got so much on I don't think about it. I used to, because the rep main reason I got it was to track my steps more than anything. And then I don't um yeah, I haven't been studying the sleep as much lately. But I'll I I think I will. And I might one day. Oh, you're not wearing a watch. I thought you weren't wearing your whoop for a second. No, is it the risk?

Robby: 17:20

It doesn't go off.

George: 17:21

There. So I might get one, but the whole reason I didn't want to I got the ring was because I didn't want to get a smart watch. So and then I at that time I didn't even think about the whoop. I don't know if I knew about it. Well maybe I did, but yeah, it's having two things on my wrist. Anyway, so uh you know, the age probably comes into it. You don't bounce back as quick as you used to when you were 20 and having big nights out like that. And yeah, so alcohol is the devil. That's okay, that's the moral of the story. That's the conclusion. That's the conclusion. Well, it is poison. Absolutely. Like, look, but it's also like um I'm glad I'm not a drinker. Honestly. I'm glad I don't have that thing in me where I'm like, oh, it's a Saturday afternoon, the sun's out, let's go have a six-pack. And I'll call you up and say, Robbie, come over, let's have a six pack, or let's just go get smashed, let's go to the bar. I'm glad I don't have that mentality. I feel that would be so detrimental to me if I was like that personally. Maybe look, for everyone else out there that loves drinking, like power to you, but it is poison. You are drinking something that has zero, zero upside to it. Like it has no health benefits to you whatsoever. Alcohol. Yeah, but like alcohol, I'm saying. Like not forget wine's good for your heart and all that sort of shit. That's bullshit. Alcohol. Yeah, I've heard that's bullshit too. But the alcohol aspect of it has zero benefit to your body.

Robby: 18:41

Yeah, zero benefit to your body. It only the only I guess, like, because you gotta think if something has zero, zero, zero benefit, yeah, no one will do it. Yes, yes, yes.

George: 18:51

It's the Dutch courage that it that it brings out in people. It's Dutch courage. Like uh it's like so when you have a few drinks, you get your confidence up. Dutch? Yeah, Dutch courage. I don't know, I don't know where that's derived from, but I have heard it's a thing. It's a thing you can you can um no, just ask chat.

Robby: 19:09

Uh did you uh did you uh do you know what a Dutch auction is? I don't. No? No, no, Dutch auction's where the auction actually goes the other way around. And the owner buys the seller's shit. No, they start at the top. Oh, okay, and go backwards. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And the first person to bid.

George: 19:30

You get a house ten mil, right? Do I have ten? Do I have nine? Do I have eight? Do I have seven? First bid gets it. Oh, I like that.

Robby: 19:36

Yeah, so it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, if someone takes it, you're done. Fuck that.

George: 19:41

Fucking taking it. That is cool. Man, can hey, can any real estate agents out there please do it? Call me, I'll bring a camera.

Robby: 19:48

But isn't it uh it's an interesting concept? Yeah, I like it. It's like the more you wait, the more likely you are to lose because someone might snoop in, like swoop in. See, that would probably work.

George: 19:58

That would work well at say a real high-end product. Yeah, super competitive.

Robby: 20:02

And that was someone who really wants it, and they're like, I'll pay a mill over. Anything like that.

George: 20:06

Go do it at a house on uh do that on a house in Turak or something, that'd be cool. I'll do it, yeah. Tomorrow. You should. You're uh you're an agent. You ex-agent.

Robby: 20:14

Ex-real estate agent, John's Greg.

George: 20:16

Yep.

Robby: 20:18

JC. Um mate. Yeah, so some Dutch courage.

George: 20:22

Yes, that's the benefit. Yeah, there's there's probably that.

Robby: 20:25

But as I said, I don't know because there's a social aspect of what if you're there's people who drink at home by themselves. Yeah, they don't need courage to get up and make something.

George: 20:34

That's a level of addiction or depression, I'm sure, might be there with them, like with them if they'd need to drink a slab to enjoy the rest of the night or to get to sleep. Yeah, like this. I'm sure there's people out there that do that. Yeah, or it's a drug, like it's it could be addictive. It is a drug, yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's a drug.

Robby: 20:49

So there's a level of so it's caffeine, by the way. Shout out to our sponsor for the day. Dundas enforcer. You weren't gonna do it?

George: 20:57

I did it. I did it. Hey, you know what? It was a good coffee tonight. Uh today, and you know what? We went to the local cafe and they weren't fucking open. Yeah. So get your shit together. So we got in the car, drove down, and got a coffee. It is um fairly early in the morning. Yeah. On a Saturday. On a Saturday. Well done. So uh coming back to what we're saying, like, but there is no benefit of it, and I'm glad I'm not a drinker. I'm glad I don't do any other recreational drugs and never have either. So I'm glad I I'm not in that space or feel the need. And this is the other thing I want to make a point of. Had I gone out on Thursday night and not had a drink, or maybe had a couple, I would have still had just as much fun.

Robby: 21:37

Oh, that's a really are you sure?

George: 21:39

100%. Yeah. I would have. I've never needed to drink to have a good time. Yeah, yeah. But so need I'm sure, I'm sure it was it it enhanced this experience. Yeah, so you wouldn't have had as much of a good time. I would have had a good time. Yeah, yeah, but not as bad. Maybe not, okay, arguably, yes. But then if the is if you take not just the moment but the 48 hours either side of drinking. Okay, yeah. So I could have had a good time and then had a great Friday as well.

unknown: 22:07

Yeah.

George: 22:08

So I would trade that off as I would say I would trade that any day of the week. Okay, cool. I would like to, I would still go out and have a night out and be fine on Friday. So I would happily do that more. I would prefer to do that more than having a big night out on the pierce and then being fucked on Friday.

Robby: 22:26

So the the accumulative greatness of having it is greater than the amount you had on one night. Yeah, I feel that on the second day.

George: 22:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robby: 22:38

Um that's a fair, that's a fair statement.

George: 22:41

Yeah, and I yeah, I I know there's a lot of people out there that are probably going to disagree with that and feel that it's a very cultural ex culturally acceptable thing in Australia to be drinking and getting pissed.

Robby: 22:55

Yeah, I feel like it's almost um a thing you do to fit in.

George: 23:02

Absolutely. And I think we've said this before, but or maybe in just private, it's like you go somewhere, say you go to um a barbecue and after Friday afternoon, a Saturday afternoon barbecue at someone's house, and there's a lot of people there. It says, Hey, can I get you a drink? And I say, No, I'm okay, thanks. It's like, are you sure? Yeah, like come on, man. Come on, you're not drinking, you're not drinking. I was like, No, no, I don't want anything. He's like, What you're pregnant? What's the matter with you? Like have a fucking drink. What are you a Muslim? Yeah, like you're a muzy. I didn't know that. I wouldn't have invited you. We got pork on the Barbie. Yeah. Um is we're gonna we're gonna get cancelled. It's okay, everyone, for clarity reasons. Robbie is a muzzy and he loves it. And I love it too. Um so, but yeah, so it's a it's one of the only places in the world where if you don't drink. You reckon it's hold on, you reckon it's one of the only places in the world? No, I take that back. Yeah, I think like America Yeah, America would be Western society. Western society, let's say, yeah. But it's one of the places where and I think drinking in Australia is very culturally acceptable too. I think, I don't know, maybe more so than anyone else. I don't know if maybe that's just because I that's all I know. But I feel that that's what it's like. So is something wrong with you if you don't have a drink? Oh, well, uh, you're on a health kick. Oh, okay, that makes sense while you're not drinking. Oh, you're pregnant. Oh, well, obviously, yeah, that makes sense. You're not drinking. Like, oh, you don't drink? You don't drink it. No, I just don't drink at all. Oh, do you have any zero um alcohol um beverage? I found it super weird. Weird? Yeah, one of my ex-employees used to do that. He would just have zero alcohol beer. But I mean, I kind of see the difference, like he also would not have any normal beer. What do you mean? Normal beer?

Robby: 24:44

The same thing. Alcoholic beer. No, but he because he was he was having he was off alcohol. But I've seen him drink other like different oh maybe one-off as a one-off thing. And it's like, but I've never seen him drink a normal beer.

unknown: 24:58

Okay.

Robby: 24:58

And I'm like, that's interesting. I don't know anyone that's not.

George: 25:01

But then uh, yeah, me either, not like that. But and that's probably why I fired him. Because he just what did not drink beer. As again, it's culturally wasn't acceptable. If you want to keep his. So if you want to know, just yeah, just bring a slab. So but that but in saying that, maybe he just likes the taste of beer. See, I personally hate beer. No one likes it. No, I personally don't like. I'm not a beer drinker. I wouldn't, I wouldn't go out and go, oh, nothing better than a cold beer on a hot day. There's there is. There is many things better. But maybe he actually likes the taste of beer. So why do you need the alcoholic content of it? It's like, okay, if you like it that much, it's the same with Coke. Have a Coke without alcohol in it. Okay, hold on, hold on.

Robby: 25:39

So let me ask you a different question. You're drinking what are you drinking right now? Everyone listing coffee. Um latte. Soy latte? No, no, no, no, not soy.

George: 25:49

You think I am a woman. What the small latte? Uh uh skinny latte. I was gonna say skinny.

Robby: 25:57

A small, skinny latte. That's my poison of choice. So you're drinking a small, skinny latte? Yeah. Do you like the taste of coffee? Yeah, I do. I do. Why? I enjoy the taste. Like, what do you mean, why?

George: 26:10

But so like, do you think coffee actually tastes nice? Now I do, yeah. Maybe not when I first started drinking it. So what's the difference? Uh now my taste buds are better.

Robby: 26:18

Like, I don't know. That's not what it is at all, man. Well, what is it? This and this is why it's the same thing with beer. Like, people who think they like the taste of coffee or people who think they like the taste of beer, you like how it makes you feel. You reckon? I'd love it. I don't know if no one ever sipped a black coffee first time and said that tastes sick. No one do you know what I mean? Also, no one ever sipped a beer or had a shot of you know, whiskey or anything and said, This is amazing. Yeah, let me give me more. No one, yeah, and it's like you don't you make the association to how it makes you feel. You drink the coffee, you're like, uh it's a bit bitter, and then you have it, and then you're like, oh yeah, that was a good kick. And then you have it more, and then you're like, fuck, I love a coffee.

George: 26:56

You know, the only reason I started drinking coffee, it was when I was in, I was at uni and I was working for a company building fences, and people would come out, like the people we're building the fences for, they would come out, hey guys, would you like a coffee? And I'd say yes, only so I could have a break, so I didn't have to work for that 10 minutes and have a coffee break. And I hated coffee, but I would get them to make me a coffee just so I could sit there, and then I started drinking it, and then eventually I just kept drinking coffee. And you get addicted.

Robby: 27:23

I'm now a kind of drunk at it. But yeah, people get addicted to the well, they make an association of the flavour to how it makes them feel. That's the only I there what alcoholic drink would you drink if it wasn't alcoholic? That's why I find the zero zero beer thing so weird.

George: 27:46

And it's usually people who love maybe he still has that association with it though, because the taste triggers the thing in your becoming in your brain. Yeah, maybe.

Robby: 27:55

This could be that, like, but you're not getting the after-effect of filter. And I'm like, what's weird? I've never tried zero beers. No, I actually don't think I have either. Um, but yeah, it's like most of those drinks don't taste nice. They don't have a a nice fl you don't drink it all very rarely. Very rarely, I should say. You should you drink one and think that tastes amazing. They usually taste poisonous.

George: 28:24

Yeah.

Robby: 28:25

And people make the association to the drink to how it makes them feel. Yeah. And it's in the moment. It's not the aftermath, you know, it's like a delayed. So you you think delayed gratification. It's like the opposite of going to the gym or eating clean. Because it's like eating clean doesn't do anything for you in the moment. But if you do it over a long period of time, you see the benefits.

George: 28:47

Yeah, absolutely.

Robby: 28:47

Going to the gym doesn't do anything, or you might get a small, small pump in the moment, but like the benefits are and then this is like the delayed effect. Your your uh positive benefit is in the moment. So you go and you have a drink, and it's like all of a sudden you feel better. Took the edge off, like hard day, had a big week, uh, out and about. I'm with my friend, I'm at a restaurant, whatever it is. Uh, and then your experience is in the moment, and then the delayed after effect is the downside. That's right. Because you'll wake up at 9 a.m. on a Friday and not anti-phone. Yeah. To all the employees. All of them.

George: 29:25

All of them. It was off. They couldn't get me. So it's um, yeah, it's definitely something that was interesting to see because I haven't done that in a very, very long time. Like, man I I can't even remember it in the time I've started my own business being like that. So at least 10 years. Vignight, huh? In the sense of coming to work the next day and not being able to function. I don't think I've ever done that in the last ten years. Do something. Because I've had nights out. Yeah, but it's generally been on a Friday or a Saturday. But this was because it was a midweek thing Thursday. So it was unique for me to be out on a Thursday, have a big night out, and be at work on a Friday. So yeah, I can safely say that hasn't happened for ten years. That um I belt I felt like that.

Robby: 30:13

How does what's that like with kids? In what way? Like there's anything different.

George: 30:21

What do you mean? Like on the I don't understand. I wasn't around them when I was hungover. At all? Like you didn't see it? Yesterday. On Friday. No, but by the time I got home, I was fine. I saw they saw me in the bed in the morning. My daughter comes in and kisses me before she went to school. So that was different. You know, she says, Hey daddy, I was like baby. Have a great day. Get up. Gonna get up. So yeah, it was. I mean, I didn't have to do anything. Yeah. So if I had to be at home and take them to school and all that sort of stuff, yeah, I'm sure that would be different. I'm sure that it'd be groggier. They would have missed out on school that day. Yeah. We're going to school on that day or go on late.

Robby: 31:03

So so what would you do? Well, okay, what's the what's the lesson here? Like what what has what has changed? I said uh I was talking to someone yesterday and I they said this thing to me. They're like, I sent his meetings for this reason and I said to get knowledge. And I was like, Well, what changes? He's like, nothing. I was like, what's the point of obtaining the knowledge if you're behind the other thing? Nothing changes. And he's like, Oh, that's a really good point.

George: 31:26

So many people do that though. Yeah, yeah. Um with the knowledge aspect of things. Like they keep going to events. Like we see the same heads at some of our events now. Yeah, so you didn't do anything. Well done for coming. Well, you know, committing to come again and trying to learn. I go, but then they leave the room and don't take the next step. What are you doing?

Robby: 31:44

So with that in mind, you now have obtained some knowledge from your experience. Yep. What changes? Drinking does anything change. Drinking is the devil. Drinking is the devil. I'm never doing it again.

George: 31:59

George is becoming Muslim. Yeah. George is convert. Converting. Uh never. Yeah, look, I I don't reckon I'll do that on a weekday, that's for sure.

Robby: 32:10

That's okay, yeah. So you I'll drink again.

George: 32:14

It'll happen. Okay, I've got no doubt about it. And I've gone out and had one or two drinks. I'll have one or two drinks here and there. Yep. Just to clarify, that's the first time I have been drunk all year. 2025? Yeah, maybe, maybe once before. That that drunk. But yes, that's what I mean. I don't drink. I'm not that's the most drunk I've been all year. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Look, I wasn't stumbling home. I was still able to function and do everything I needed to do. Would you have gotten behind the wheel? Oh, no chance. No chance. Yeah. Yeah. Like I left my car at a friend's in the car park at my friend's house.

unknown: 32:50

Oh really?

George: 32:51

Yeah. On you know, on um on Rouse Street, there's that car park. Opposite the there's a car park opposite the Rouse Cedary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I left it in there. Okay. Because there was no car parking when I went to his house anywhere, so I just drove it in there and left it there for the night. And then my wife dropped me off and picked it up in the morning. But yeah, look, I'm good like that. I will never ever I've never driven intoxicated and I never will. Absolutely worth not worth just fucking dumb. You're an idiot if you get behind the wheel and you've had a drink. Not worth what could come out of it. Exactly. No good could ever come out of that. So yeah, I don't think I'll do that again during the week. I I just I felt bad for myself and for the business. Do you know what I mean? Like you didn't. I always say I'm a high performer, even though it's like you you fall into the excuses, ah, it's just once. Come on, you'll be right. Live a little. Yeah, exactly. You start, you yeah, you buy into the hype. Yeah, you've worked hard, you deserve it. You haven't been out with the boys for a long time. Like, you know, have a have a night out of citizens. Like I told one of my Don't be that boys.

Robby: 33:54

Yeah, I hate when people say that you piece because I am I am that guy. You are him. I am definition of I am that guy. Like I'm the guy where everybody's like, we're going out. And I'm like, I see you, boys. Yeah. I am that guy. That's it. Time to leave. You couldn't think of anything. Houdini. Hey, Houdini. Yeah, yeah. I remember we went to a box one night. Houdini's undone. In my career. He's part-time magician. Yeah. I'm like, I'll see you there. Yeah. Like, where is he?

George: 34:19

And I'm like, I remember once we were at a buck's at a at a Bates Bucks. And then the time was like, all right, we're going to a bar or something. You're like, hey, I'm out. See ya. I'm done. Like, we even walked in. Credit to you. You walked in. They're like, hey, this place isn't for me. I'm going. I was like, fair enough.

Robby: 34:38

I'm just left with you. Yeah, I know I'm not that guy. I'm the guy who's going to disappear. And I so I'm the guy who always gets the don't be that guy. Yeah. And I'm like, dude.

George: 34:49

Definition.

Robby: 34:50

That is me.

George: 34:51

I am him. You should just say don't be a ro don't do a Robbie. From now on. When you're out with your mates, you say, hey, don't do a Robbie. That's all you got to say.

Robby: 34:59

Um, sure, I'll own it. I've got no I couldn't think of anything worse than being at Rufus. That sounds like a horrible. You are that guy. A horrible night to me. Yeah. I just like I don't know. I don't know what it is. I that does not seem fun. I would just to be intoxicated to be there. I would not like I could not just stand there and be like.

George: 35:23

Well, especially if you don't like the music as well. That's gonna play a big part in it, too. Of course. Yeah. So yeah, the lesson was I won't be doing that again during the week. And oh, and that's what that's just that's what I was saying before that. So I spoke to one of my employees who happens to be my cousin too. And he's like, he goes, Where were you? He goes, I was trying to call you, couldn't get on to you, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, oh, I've told him, I said, I had a night out. He goes, I'm fucked. He starts laughing. He goes, Yeah, he goes, Good on you. He goes, You never do that. He's like, well done. He goes, You deserve it. It's like, yeah, I do deserve it. No, but it's like it was funny to see that. Like that's his perception of me. Now, George is just that hardworking guy that doesn't take a break, that doesn't take a minute, that keeps going, that doesn't, he's I've never seen him pissed at any family functions. Like, what on you know, you good on you for having a drink. Like, see, socially acceptable. It's a bit drinking. Yeah. And that's funny. Yeah. Yeah, it was. It wasn't Simon, by the way. It was Nick.

Robby: 36:14

Oh, wow. Okay. Simon was there.

George: 36:16

I saw that photo of Simon. I thought that was such a cool photo.

Robby: 36:20

I was so thinking that was Simon.

George: 36:22

No, no, it was. I was like, But Simon acted very getting a bit every time every time I looked up at you, he goes, You had a drink in your hand. I said, We did not stop. The whole time we were there, I actually had a drink in my hand.

Robby: 36:33

So um dude, I thought that was Simon. How funny. I was like, that is Simon to the T for sure. No one else would say that. No one else. But anyway, Nick. Shout out. Shout out to Nick. Um yeah, so I won't do that again. But also was that uh comforting for you? Which having someone say to you and meet nothing. You mean nothing, Nick. It's nothing. Don't talk to me.

George: 37:01

Don't call me again. Next time do some work. Send some send me a text next time.

Robby: 37:04

Yeah. Send me an email. See me, see me in the email.

George: 37:08

Don't even send it to me. Um, but yeah. So yeah, I pride myself on being a high performer. I pride myself on doing more than others, being that guy. Do you know what I mean? Being unreasonable. And wanting to achieve a level of success, achievement in my life means that is going against it in every sense of the word. So moving forward, I'm never gonna drink ever again. Stopping drugs immediately.

Robby: 37:34

We're actually going to the mosque, aren't we? Yeah. Um it's a very religious episode. It's uh we could make all our episodes religious. But we should be onwards. We should. And if you're not religious, what's wrong with you? Okay, so let's go to the opposite end of that um spectrum. So what were the here's a great question, actually. What did you do on Friday morning? Like, did you have anything where you're like, hey man, make let me make you know how like barocca. I had a baroca. Baraka's 100% the way to go.

George: 38:01

Yeah, I had a baroca and I just had some toast. I even came to the office and I couldn't stomach a coffee, so I didn't have a coffee. Oh well. Yeah, I thought that was weird. I tried and I was like, no, this is not going down, so I didn't drink it. Baraka's a solid move. Yeah, I think so too. Like a very safe yeah, so I just had the baroca, and then I just kept drinking water all day. Because all your a hangover is effectively your body being dehydrated. That's what it is. So I just knew I just kept drinking heaps of water throughout the day.

Robby: 38:30

Yeah, I think there's there is a dehydration aspect. Oh, it but that's what it is.

George: 38:33

I've I've studied it. Oh, you're just in a medical facility.

unknown: 38:40

Yeah.

George: 38:40

I did it myself. No, I've I've read it or read or heard it or whatever it might be from a doctor. It is your body just being dehydrated.

Robby: 38:47

From your your uh GP friend?

George: 38:50

That's right. Yes, yes, the GP. I'm actually the only GP.

Robby: 38:55

I'm the real GP. I uh sent a message and went to say ask G V and I wrote ask GP and hit send, and it sent an emoji of a doctor. Oh, that's right.

George: 39:06

How good. How good. That's my new nickname, the doctor.

Robby: 39:10

The doctor.

George: 39:10

The doc. Just doc. Uh C O C call me doc, top doc. Dr. J. Doctor Dr. George.

Robby: 39:17

Dr. George. Yeah, so you had a broca.

unknown: 39:20

Yeah.

Robby: 39:21

And that was it. Had some toast.

George: 39:22

Had some toast and then came in straight into the office. And then just throughout the day was drinking water. And then just that was it, really. I think actually around, I think it was around lunchtime, I still had a bit of a headache, so I took a singular neurofin. Just one, because I only had one in my drawer, so I just took one capsule and that was it. And then coffee in the afternoon, and I felt pretty good. Or I felt better by the afternoon. So that was the only remedy that I really did. Other than that, get into it. Get into it.

Robby: 39:50

And then that's it. That was it. Okay, and so what do you normally do? Let's go to the other end of the spectrum. That's what that's that's what caused you to feel like shit. That's how you got out of it. Now, what do you normally do to maintain the high performance? So what what's what are some things that you do, you know, uh day to day, maybe weekly, maybe monthly?

George: 40:12

I reckon one of the main things, I reckon it'd be great to get a an expert on the topic for this. I'm an expert. Are you? What's the topic? Sleep. I'm pretty good. Yeah? You're pretty good at sleeping? Yeah. Number one, you have a full eight hours. Yeah. I honestly reckon because so as a consequence of me getting up so early, I find that I'm tired earlier too. So come nine o'clock, my eyes are like, okay, I'm starting to drift off. 9 30, 10 o'clock, like I'm not ready, not wanting to stay up. And as a consequence, I've been getting because I've been getting up early, I go to bed earlier too. And I feel that that has been me. I get a solid, I get a really good night's sleep most nights, except for Thursday night. Pull up your no, no, don't worry about it. Pull up your stats. Don't worry about it. Um, except for Thursday night. I'll compete with you. Okay, that's what it's pull up your stats. I don't know what I'm looking at though. Sure. What do you mean? Show us your recovery. Oh, low battery on my Auro ring. Oh, do you call it an Auro ring? Aura. Continue. It's been refreshed. Come on. Waiting to get sleep data. It's catching up. So I yeah, I feel that sleep is a huge thing to having a high level of performance. Because uh so 80, what do you look at? I've got a score of 87 for readiness from last night. Yeah, so like that's like your kind of like your recovery, right? Yeah. So sleep. Oh, here we go. Let's look at my sleep. So if I look at yes, deep sleep. Okay, so total sleep time last night was seven hours thirty-two minutes. Efficiency eighty percent, restfulness, good. Uh restfulness. REM sleep, one hour and fifty-four. Show me, show me. Is there like an overall so you got total sleep? That's from last night.

Robby: 41:56

84, okay, so like that's your score.

George: 41:58

Yeah. Is that the same? Let's see let's see if I can see Thursday. Okay, yeah. Sleep, here we go.

Robby: 42:09

Where can I find it? I don't know how uh aura rings work. But whoops is uh much easier to understand and consume.

George: 42:20

Yeah, I'm sure. I like I don't know how accurate like this is on your finger, I don't know how accurate it is. I'm sure it's better than other things, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty good, man.

Robby: 42:28

Is it?

George: 42:28

Yeah.

Robby: 42:29

Anyway, so i if anyone's wanting to, you know, track their sleep, uh George wears an aura ring spelt. O-U-R-A. O O-U-R-A. Uh I wear a whoop. Whoop spelt W-H-W-O-P. Uh I've worn a whoop for just over three years now.

George: 42:47

Yeah.

Robby: 42:48

Yeah. Yeah, you've been wearing it for a while. Yeah, I got onto it. Um I read Tony Robbins' book about Life Force. It's called Life Force. Uh and it was one of the things that was mentioned. They actually mentioned both, and I just didn't want to wear a ring. Uh, so I got this. And honestly, man, I I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I think I'll always make sure that I can have it on because I think it just allows me to well.

George: 43:13

I mean, that's a that's a level of of you doing that, right? And being that high performer because you can see stuff and you can track it and you can go data for your body. Yeah, it's data. Like, look, why wouldn't you want to know this? You know data for your business. Why wouldn't you want to know data for your body? Yeah, this is the last month.

Robby: 43:27

Every green. Yeah, every green is a is a decent night's rest. You can see there's a couple of like what three nights in the last month or in the last 30 days where I've had uh really bad recovery.

George: 43:43

Yeah, you know, it's probably because I didn't sleep well, or I had like just a whole bunch of stuff on here's here's my yes, here's the Thursday night score. So I found it 64.

unknown: 43:56

Okay.

George: 43:57

So it went from 84 to 64. That's not too bad, dude. I get five hours sleep, REM was 47. Yeah, so it was bad. Worse.

Robby: 44:06

But are you able to see particular aspects of the sleep, like why you didn't sleep well?

George: 44:11

Uh, probably not, maybe not in that display. Again, I haven't studied it enough. I do have a play with it. Like even like go watch a video. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Maybe look it up on YouTube. Yeah, so I mean 15-minute video so you can get the most out of it. Yeah, that little thing is an element of me tracking my performance, right? So I love that what you said, like track the performance of your body. We track the performance of our business. What? Why wouldn't we do it here?

Robby: 44:31

Well, I'm dude. People pay, people get an uh like a uh sensor for their car so they can see what their car's oil life is. It's like you're doing that for your car, that's great.

George: 44:40

But do it for your your body own vehicle and your fucking 150 kilos, your own vessel. Your your car doesn't like that it's a hundred yet your 150 kilos, doesn't like it. Yeah, it has to carry all that extra weight, stresses out your car's data. That's it. The suspension on one side it's hurting. So something I'm actually going to do, which I haven't booked in yet, but I'm going to, is this there's this place in Bayside somewhere, I don't know whereabouts it is, and you s you pay about three thousand dollars and they do a full what's it called? Overlap. It maybe. I did it, don't do it. Is that what did you pay that? Yeah. I'll find out which one it is. If it is that or if it's not. But I did, I wanted to try, I wanted to go get the. Can you find out right now?

Robby: 45:23

On the reason, I'm gonna I'm gonna grill this company because I paid. I paid. It was the fucking lowest experience. Oh, okay, good. I'm gonna I can tell you right now because Nicole sent it to me. So do it, do it. It's it's about getting pre-checked. Yeah, it's about like uh find out before it's too late, blah, blah, blah.

George: 45:37

Well, it was more not so much find out before, it was more. No, it wasn't. It was this one. Yeah, the very similar. Yeah, it could be. It could be. Um future of preventative health. This is I'm not gonna give them a shout out because I don't know what they're like yet. So anyway, long story short, regardless of if it's a waste or if it's not, I'll be but I'm definitely after the show we can talk about your experience. It's about $3,000. Now, how many people do you know would go and spend $3,000? And I'm gonna do it for myself and for Nicole. Okay, would spend $3,000 on just getting a checkup. Like there, you spend the whole day there. I don't know what your experience was like, but apparently you spend the whole day there. They do bloods, they do scans, they do tear, like everything, everything you could possibly think of. And it's not the traditional medicine going, okay, well, you're low on this, so take this, take that, take that. It's more, okay, well, this is where your body is at. And for you to be here, which is what I do want, I want to be that guy, you know, that's in the best position, the best condition mentally, physically, spiritually. Um, because now I'm joining a mosque, as we said. Yeah, um, of course. So I want to be in that position, I want to be that guy. Um, and I'm gonna spend that money to go and get those checks to go because, well, why would I would go spend it on a car? I would spend that sort of money on a car, I'd spend that sort of money on a house, I'd spend that sort of money on a holiday. Why don't I spend that on myself? So that's gonna be an element of me being performing to my optimum levels. And alcohol, drugs, partying, whatever you want to do on the fucking weekends or during the week, doesn't align with what I want. So for me, although I had a lot of fun, I had a great night out with my friends and a night out that we will remember for a very long time. And like, oh, remember we went to Rufus and we did this and we did this and we had that and said that and whatever and drank that. Although that was great and we had some core memories, it's not in line with what I want in my life. If that was the trade-off to never do that ever again, I would do it. As in still go out with them, but not drink, I would happily do it. If someone said to me, George, you can never drink ever again for the rest of your life, not an issue. Not an issue. I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Robby: 47:52

Okay. I I agree. I think you should I think it's a good idea. Oh, obviously, I did it.

George: 47:59

You did it, yeah. Um it's a shame that that was a bad experience. Yeah, I don't know. Did you pay uh how much did you pay for it?

Robby: 48:04

So there was two, there were two levels. There was a uh I think it was like a $1,500 one and then a uh $2,900 or $3,000 one. The $3,000 one had physical testing as well, like movement and joints, and I was like, I don't need that. So I did the $1,500 one, which supposedly included some scans, blood work, blah blah blah. And they're like, it's all about preventative, and we do one hundred biomarkers on your blood work, and you know, we can sell us super early. And so I was like, all right, cool. I just I got in my own head about it. I was always wanting to do it, and then I was like, Imagine you don't do this. Because like it's still it's still fifteen hundred dollars. Yeah, of course, yeah, of course. And I was like, Imagine you don't do this and then you find out something, and I was like, that would be the worst decision to not like to not doing it, yeah, be the worst decision ever. It's like so I was like, all right, whatever, fuck it, I'll just go do it. Um so I went and did it not that long ago, I mean like two months ago. Oh, no shit, yeah, yeah, really. We were talking like before I met you. Oh no, no, very recently. I drove from here to go to the thing to get scanned. No shit. Yeah, and um I went and did it and they did uh like I did the blood work.

George: 49:16

Yep. Yeah, so I mean, if it's recent, you know what you're talking about because you've been looking at this shit for a while.

Robby: 49:21

Yeah, yeah. I I I almost feel like I knew more than the doctor when he was going through it with me. And I'm like, Yeah, and I'm thinking to myself, yeah, like this is fucking stupid. Yeah, like what the fuck have I paid for? And then I'm like, hey, you guys haven't scanned me for anything.

George: 49:36

Oh, that's that's extra that's extra. Yeah.

Robby: 49:38

Oh yeah, do you want to yeah, you can get a full scan. I don't think you need it, but if you want it, it's three thousand dollars. And I'm like on top of what I've already paid, and like, yeah. Like, what the fuck have I paid for? And like, oh, you paid for the consults and the blood work and the the they do one full scan where they and I'm like, but that hasn't you haven't confirmed I don't have anything a hundred percent. And they're like, Yeah, but your blood show, like your blood work looks okay. I was like, I know my blood, I've got my blood done every six months. Yeah, I know, yeah. Like I fucking do this.

George: 50:06

I actually know where my levels are at.

Robby: 50:07

Yeah, it's this and this. And he's like, Oh, have you got you got this? I'm like, I'm aware of that. That's because of this. And they're like, Oh, okay. And I'm like, and I'm thinking to myself, and then all I felt was they were just trying to upsell me the whole fucking time, dude. Upsell me to the next thing and the next thing or the next year, like they want me to come back next year. And I was like, What's the point?

George: 50:26

Yeah, exactly.

Robby: 50:27

I got nothing out of it. Yeah, didn't get any reassurance, didn't get any, didn't learn anything new.

George: 50:32

Okay, uh go back a step. Had you not known anything and walked in there, would you have walked out with something more for yourself personally? Like, say you knew nothing about your blood work, say you'd never done anything like that ever before. Would it have been worth it then?

Robby: 50:46

Yeah, like it comes with a fancy app, like I'll show you. Yeah. Um, like it comes with a fancy app where you can see all your metrics. Who gives a shit?

George: 50:57

You know what I mean? But that's from that's from the test you did two months ago. How is that still tracking? Oh, you there's no live. Yeah. No, no, no.

Robby: 51:06

So you can get that printed on a piece of paper. Why do you need the app? I've literally got that.

George: 51:09

Yeah.

Robby: 51:10

I told you, I go to the doctors and I'm like, here's my previous blood test. It's great.

George: 51:15

Like, no, no, we only want to be like we only want to give you we only want to give you reactive uh consultations.

Robby: 51:20

Yeah, and they're just like, I don't know, I wasn't I wasn't convinced that it was I don't feel like it was worth it, to be completely honest. I was like, you know, they're sitting there telling me my biological age is way younger than what I am. I'm like, I don't think that's the case. Everything I I got three separate things that measure my biology biological age. I went and got my blood done by these guys, uh, and they did body scans and got my biological age. I went and I've got the scales they give it to you, and then this thing gives it to you. Oh, you're cool. Yeah. This thing and the scales both say I'm over and they said I'm under. And I'm like, well, who do you believe?

George: 51:54

No, exactly right. I feel like they're saying you're under to make you feel good, like as a sales, oh look, you're actually doing really well. And and it's probably okay. Here's the thing. I think they base a lot of that data off the average person. And the average person, like when you say, Oh, you're you're better than average, that's horrible. That's fucking shit. So you're not telling me I'm I'm great. And that's when I like that's funny, it's when I sat and I did my blood, when did I have a blood test? It was about a two year the first one I did in ages was about a year and a half ago, two years ago. And they go, I was sitting with my GP, who's been my GP my whole life, mind you. And he goes, Oh, okay, look cool, everything's come back. He goes, Yeah, it's all looking normal. I'm like, okay. He's like, Yeah, yeah, that's normal. He goes, Yeah, that's normal. And I said, Doc, Doc. Pretend Doc, I'm the real doc. But said Doc. What is there anything except is there anything exceptional? Is there anything that's great that you look at and go, You George, you are a super blood cells, you are fucking super fire, fucking human. Okay, go to the tattoo uh parlor and get an S put on your chest right now. That's how good you are. They go, Is there anything like that? And he's like, Oh no. He goes, but no, no, nothing's bad. Nothing's bad. I don't give a fuck if nothing's bad. That's what they're looking for. Exactly. That's what I think that's the biggest problem with GPs in general. They're very book smart, textbook smart. This is what everything should be like, and if it's not like that, take this pill. With all due respect. With all due respect, because one of my best mates is a GP. With all due respect to every GP, yeah, GPs have no idea. I'm sorry. I feel that they they are told by the industry this is how.

Robby: 53:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, medicine is one of the you know what the half-life of medicine is? Half-life. Half-life of the knowledge of medicine. I've read this in uh Tony Robbins book. Don't quote me on this, but this is actually in the book, and they say within everything people learn in the medical space, in 18 months' time, 50% of it's expired. Yeah, right. 18 months, it's like half of what you learnt is gone already is irrelevant because it's been outdated, it's been proven otherwise, it's been and that was three years ago.

George: 54:01

Yeah, and I feel that there's a lot of people like that that have just gone, no, no, this is how you solve this problem like this, because this is how it's always been solved. And then when you come out and do stuff, like you know, even things like when you did the eating just meat, for example, and then people say that's bad, you can't do that, it's no good for you, you'll be dead, you'll do this, this, this, it's not but and it's been proven that there's so many benefits to doing that. It's been proven by eating certain diets and doing certain things and everything that there's benefits to it, but people are like, no, no, no, no, that's how we always eat. We eat like this, this is how you always have to eat. Yeah, that's the best diet.

Robby: 54:36

Vegetables, yeah.

George: 54:37

You need this, you need this, yeah.

Robby: 54:39

Rice is good for you, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Three, what's it called? The three portions. I don't know. Carbs, proteins, fats. Yeah.

George: 54:49

Um, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, so I'm gonna try look, I'll do a bit more research before I dive in and see what it's actually like. But yeah, I I wanted to do something like that to do a check because I haven't really done a check of that nature anyway. And it's not so much to go oh try and find something wrong. It's no, no, no. I personally want how do I get from here to here? Yeah, yeah, okay.

Robby: 55:10

But also, like, so I do that thing. The blood test, that's covered under Medicare. That's right. Yeah. Like they just gave me a script and go get these markers checked. And then they kind of walked with the results. When you get a blood test anyway, you know they give you the where your range is. Yeah. They've just kind of put it on an app that goes green and red. Yeah. Big deal. Like, and it's like, you guys haven't even paid for that. Like that's not even a that's not even part of the cost of what I've and I get it. They're gonna make money. Like, I understand that. Yeah, and they're cashing in on the space too. Yeah, yeah. I I just I felt like it was could have been way more impressive.

George: 55:50

Like I was I think it's because you have a level of that. Because here's the thing, right? We had some friends who have done that exact same thing. They went and did it. Now they're they're the I guarantee you they've never done anything like that before in their life. Right? They're wealthy and they're like, oh yeah, we'll go do that. Here's you know, three grand each, and they went and did it. And they're both they're both unhealthy. They're both, did I say they're unhealthy? Did I say that? You didn't say that. No, you said they're wealthy. No, they're wealthy, that's right. So they're wealthy, they got plenty of coins, so for them it was like no no-brainer to go and do it, but they're not exactly the fittest people on the planet either. Right. So they were never athletic. Let's just say they're not, they're not obese or anything like that, but they're not, they're just your average. Yeah, they're just living life. Yeah, they're living life. They're your average 40-year-old that you would see. And then they went there and they were blown away because they'd never done anything like this ever before.

unknown: 56:43

Right?

George: 56:43

Whereas you have a level of experience with it, you get your bloods tested regularly, you do all those sorts of things. So there's probably that element that you're more educated than what they uh for in that space than what they gave you credit for. And also you knew what you were looking at. Whereas someone that went in there and the doctor says, Oh, you've got to do this and this, like, oh wow, I'll get this app. Look at me, I'm really high in this or I'm really low in that.

Robby: 57:06

And yeah, and there's also like the I felt like the person I had received wasn't on the ball. Yeah. Like didn't quite understand. Yeah, are you even a doctor? Yeah, I was like, Oh, like, do you have you like you seem like you haven't been working here long? Like you're not clear on the process, you're not, you know what I mean? Um, so fuck them.

George: 57:27

That's okay. They lost me, they've hurt me. Can I just say I'm not going there now? And now and because you've just told me, like, I won't go. If you if that same place that I showed you said, oh yeah, that's them, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have lost, yeah.

Robby: 57:38

They would have lost a complete client. And everyone listening.

George: 57:41

Um, but yeah, I just mean we're not we're not trying to bag someone, but like if you're gonna charge a premium for a service, give a fucking premium service. I agree. You know what I mean? Like, I don't I don't go out there and charge what I charge to build a house and then build a the same fucking spec home a month that Metricon does.

Robby: 57:58

All I feel like is everything post-it. Like I haven't been no one's checked in, no one the only time I've been contacted was to find out if they I want to upgrade. Like constant messages, emails, and it's like fuck off. Yeah, like I have not enjoyed this. This is this has sucked. Yeah, I feel like you guys ripped me.

George: 58:15

Yeah.

Robby: 58:16

And now you just want more. It's like stop. Screw you, Everlab. Stop, stop. Um, okay, cool. So they were they were blown away, you said.

George: 58:27

They were perfect.

Robby: 58:28

Send it to me, send it to me.

George: 58:29

Yeah, I'll send it to you. I will check it out. Uh they were blown um so yeah, so coming back to what you said about you know how do we be high performers.

Robby: 58:35

Just touching on that before we move on to the next thing. Uh, can you find out why they were blown away? Like what did they actually get out of it? Yeah. I'll suss it out. Because I know a lot of people. They're actually friends, they're friends of friends, but I'll be able to suspect it. But if you can start a connection and just say, hey, like, you know, what like specifically? Because most I know a lot of people where they're like, this was amazing. And I'm like, well, what did you get out of it? Yeah, specifically. It was just amazing. Yeah, it just felt like it. It's like fucking tell me what you tell me what the fuck you got out of it.

George: 59:00

It's like when you go to courses and stuff, like that was a life change. Yeah, you're like, well, what did you learn? Yeah, well, what have you done supposed that? Or what what's changed? What's the behavior that's changed after that event?

Robby: 59:07

No, everything's normal. I had fun. Yeah. And you're like, that's not the point. Right. Um, yeah, so if you could call them now, call them now. Hello. Anyway, yeah, moving on.

George: 59:17

So moving on. Sleep. Uh exercise. Definitely gonna be important, especially as you get older, you know, that 35 to 45 range. I think you need to be uh consciously going to the gym, working out, building muscle. Um is gonna be a massive contributor to that. The things you're actually putting in your mouth and the energies that it gives you throughout the day, I think that's gonna be critically important to you um operating at optimum levels. Something I was thinking about the other day. Now, when we went to the Saint, is that what it's called? Saint. The Saint, the gym that you go to? Saint. Just Saint. Saint, it's called Saint Black. Saint Black. Whatever it is. It's an expensive fucking gym. It's nice gym, smash. It's a nice gym. I hey look, I enjoyed it when I went. I probably expect it. It's not a gym, it's not a gym. It's a wellness center. Yeah, and I think when I got there, I was like, oh, I was a little bit underwhelmed. Yeah, gym equipment.

Robby: 1:00:16

Someone else's like, oh, derimot's better. I'm like, it's not it's not derrift. Yeah. Like it's not the same. Yeah. Um Deremt's still around.

George: 1:00:23

Deremt's for now. I I actually called them the other day to see if I could if my membership was still. Yeah, they're still open. Yeah. I just called to see where my membership was at because I I it may have expired by now. And it just went straight to voicemail saying, This voice box is full. I couldn't answer like, okay, you kind of answered my question. Yeah. So anyway, I was thinking about Saint when we went the other day, and I was like, look, uh the health club, I go, it's great, I would go to the gym, I like it. But I said to you, I said the reason I wouldn't pay is I wouldn't use all the other things there, like the sauna, the but why not? That's what I'm getting to. Hang on. Why are you interrupt? Sorry. The sauna, the ice bass, the core, all the all that shit, all that extracurricular recovery shit that you've got there. Not shit, but you know, it's stuff. And then I was thinking about it the other day because now I'm at that point where I go, oh, well, I've got to get a new gym now. I've cancelled my I'm not gonna renew it at Derrima. And that's no, I'll probably go back to good life where I used to be. It's also a little bit closer for me, so I'll probably go back there. Or I don't know, or maybe go to the Saint. And I was thinking about it, and I was like, I wouldn't do it because I like going to the gym, doing my workout, and then leaving. So I like I'll I allocate an hour for the gym. And then I was thinking, well, hang on. We're talking about performing at optimum levels, talking about being the best version of yourself physically, mentally, spiritually. Maybe I should invest at least once a week, half a day. You know, and go do my workout in the morning. I'll get there first thing in the morning, do your workout, and then go do the sauna, do the ice bath, do the recovery stuff, and then feel fucking amazing.

Robby: 1:02:05

Yeah, or or like just to give you another way to do it is like, okay, maybe you train four days a week, and the other three days you just go in and you go do sauna ice bath jump.

George: 1:02:17

Yeah, maybe you do that.

Robby: 1:02:19

Yeah, just or you go and sit in the because there's other like there's the hyperbaric chambers.

George: 1:02:23

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Robby: 1:02:23

Do the other recovery take something else other than leave.

George: 1:02:27

Yeah, yeah. Or maybe you just walk on the treadmill for half an hour or something.

Robby: 1:02:30

And I've done that. I go in and I'll do like the stepper for 30 minutes, and then I'll just jump in the sauna, ice bath, and I'm out after like an hour.

George: 1:02:38

Yeah. So that yeah, there could be that element of it too. Because then it got me thinking, like, why not do the red light therapy, the all the other shit that comes with it? Like, that's makes sense then. It's there for a reason. That's right. That's right. But it's also I would be better as a result of doing all those things.

Robby: 1:02:52

Yeah, I fucking hope so.

George: 1:02:54

Fucking hope so for the money you're paying as well. But the other thing that I kept driving past, I've been driven past it a few times over the last couple over the last couple weeks, and I've always noticed there's no parking out the front as well. Just FYI.

Robby: 1:03:04

There's a car park.

George: 1:03:05

There is? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there is Robbie just parks anywhere and doesn't pay the fine anyway. So, LAPD, if you're looking for Robbie, call me. I know where he is. So, yes, sleep, food, exercise are definitely going to be What made you move to the car park thing? Oh, because I always I just always look at it when I drive past. There's no, because I'm like, because if I'm gonna go, that's a determining factor. Oh, yeah. I'd hate to get there and not find a park and after fucking reasons not to go. Yeah. There you go. So I can say you can park anywhere. Literally.

Robby: 1:03:39

I parked at McDonald's.

George: 1:03:41

You then got Maccas after drive-thru. Protein. That's it. Um yeah. Um, so there's that, there's that, and then there's there's also I suppose the discipline has to come in there too to do those things because none of those things I just mentioned are easy. Going to bed early, not necessarily easy. You think it would be. A lot of people want to stay up and watch TV or play games or I don't know, do whatever. Have you done have you done an ice bath? I've been in not an ice bath. I've been in cold water at like the springs before. What's the one in Road Red Hill? There's one in or Rye. Down Peninsula, there's a hot springs down here. Yeah, yeah. So I've got no cot. Yeah, it's alright. There's one where you actually're natural springs. Yeah, so there's been in the mountain or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's alright. It's good, you get some hot water there for sure. Like some real hot ones where you're like, fuck, this is too hot. I'm cooking. Really? Yeah. Oh, I've felt like that anyway. And then there was I've so yes, I've dipped in it before, yes. But that was what, like eight years ago or some shit? That was a long time ago.

Robby: 1:04:52

Yeah, I think when you don't do it, like I do it quite regularly, but when you don't do it, or when you don't do it for a long time, you will realize it'll hurt. Yeah. Like physical pain.

George: 1:05:03

Hey, hey, hey. I emptied the SC the other day. I had an eskey in my car and I had ice in it with drink, and I put my hand in there to get the what my hand was hurting. And I thought to myself, I go, imagine my whole body was in this fucking thing right now. Headbutt people.

Robby: 1:05:17

There's a level of uh inflammation that builds in like your joints and all that. And then it's like when you haven't done that and then you do it, it's like that's the stuff like it hurts. Like physical, it's like your feet, dude, you kill.

George: 1:05:30

Yes, like when I okay, so when I put the jet ski in the water for the first time this season and you gotta get in the beach or in the lake, like my feet start to ache because the water's so cold.

Robby: 1:05:41

Yeah, but then that's because you're inflamed.

George: 1:05:44

Yeah, right. Yeah, so I don't know that.

Robby: 1:05:46

If you do I'm pretty sure. No, it could very well be. But if you do the uh the ice bath regular regularly, yeah, yeah, that goes away. And like the certain goes.

George: 1:05:55

It's in the gets. No, no, no. I'm saying in the moment it'll go away, the pain will go away whilst you're in the cold water. What happens when you're outside of the water? No, no, as in as in juct throughout the day. Yeah, yeah, but like nothing. No, but you so you're saying the inflammation goes away. I don't have pain now that I'm sitting here. Yeah, but my joints don't hurt now sitting here, so what are they gonna feel like when I'm out?

Robby: 1:06:14

Nothing changes from that aspect. Yeah. But the next time you go in, you don't feel the pain. So what if I never go in? I never feel the pain. Yeah, but you're you're removing something that's not good for your body. But it's not how is it not good? I don't feel it now. But inflammation leads to other diseases, direct pain now, yeah. See, I don't know that. Yeah, inflammation can lead to other effects and so forth. That's how it starts. It all starts with like inflammation.

George: 1:06:37

Yeah. So my back hurts sometimes when I'm sleeping, like on the in the bed or whatever. So that could be a level of inflammation. Like my lower back. Oh, I don't know about back. I don't know.

Robby: 1:06:49

I'm just trying to think of something that aches at my body. I'm not a doctor. Archer, I'm not a I'm a GP. Oh, you're a GP, you're not the GP. Not the GP. Okay. Uh no, I don't know. I'm not sure. But uh I'm sure you know, some level of muscle training and posture. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Stuff will really help.

George: 1:07:06

For sure. So maybe new metro. So, so yeah, maybe. I think I've got a good one. I think a good one. Um, so yeah, the discipline to actually do all of those things. Because it is, it's hard not to put shit in your mouth. Like you've got to eat healthy, you've got to eat proper proteins and fats and carbs and all that sort of stuff to get all the macro macronutrients that you need. To go to the gym and work out, it's difficult. To get in an ice bath, it's difficult. So I think there's a huge level of come with that.

Robby: 1:07:32

For some people, it's like the the the other way around. Like they can't sit in the sauna for long.

Speaker: 1:07:36

Yeah.

Robby: 1:07:36

If they sit in the sauna for five minutes and they feel like they're gonna die. It's like you need to push through. You need to push through, yeah. You need to spend some time in there and not let your mind talk you out of it. Because you might end well.

George: 1:07:48

Oh, we've got to.

Robby: 1:07:49

I mean you've done enough, get out.

George: 1:07:50

Hey, it's okay, you're 40, relax. You no, no, half the 40-year-olds aren't even in the gym. You're here, good on you. Hey, you worked out, you worked out, yeah. You worked out a week, you worked out all week. You always work hard. You always work hard. You deserve that. That's like my friend, yeah, it's like my cousin said. He goes, Oh, well done. You know, you haven't had a drink in a long time. You you know, you deserve to have that. And then, like, do you believe that talk by others, by yourself? Like um Coggins calls it, You're in a bitch. Have you read his books?

Robby: 1:08:16

Yeah, how'd you find him? Uh, I like the first one more than the second one.

George: 1:08:21

Yeah. The You Can't Hurt Me?

Robby: 1:08:24

Yeah. Is that the first one? Uh I think so. What's the second one? I can't remember. Never Never Stopping or some shit. Oh, okay. Um, I'll tell you right now. But the first extreme guy. The first one's quite good because like it's his life.

George: 1:08:37

Yeah.

Robby: 1:08:39

Uh David Gogg's book. Yeah, so Can't Hurt Me is the first one, and then never finished is the second one. Yeah, uh, I liked Can't Hurt Me. Never finished, I never finished it. He is here all week, ladies and gentlemen. He is here all week. Um, yeah, never finished it. That's the truth, you know. And but like, you know, that's his fault. He put that in my head. It's in the title. Yeah. Uh yeah. So your fault, David Goggins. If you got a problem, we'll fight you. Catch me outside.

George: 1:09:08

Yeah. We'll fight ya. So, uh, they're things that I do or that I see. What about yourself?

Robby: 1:09:17

Uh yeah, very much the same, man, to be honest.

George: 1:09:20

Yeah, I think I mean the core principles, aren't they? Yeah. It's like I mean, even you, you've got yeah, I think sleep's massive. Like I I almost I've got an upcoming training in a few months' time that I've got to do for vitality. And I I want to try and deep dive a little bit into sleep and the importance of it. And even if I can find an expert in that area. Can I come? Yeah, I'll be the expert. Are you just gonna sleep? Share with it.

Robby: 1:09:42

Okay, here, exhibit A, and then just Robbie's in the corner in a sleeping bag. I'm gonna share a stat with you. This is gonna blow your mind. Well, you know what? I might look it up so I can give you the specific numbers. Uh, or I'll I'll paraphrase and it'll be pretty close. Yeah, do that. And then look it up and and fact check this. Uh, but I heard this from a sleep professional was mentioned in Tony Robbins' book. It was this blew my mind. Sleep is so important, like so, so, so important, right? Uh losing sleep or not getting enough sleep to what you need increases your risk of like heart disease, cancers, everything, right? People say, like, uh uh who's that guy? What's that um Um Guzmani Gomez? That's a great place. You know him, the the Doctor dude.

George: 1:10:30

The doctor uh Brecker?

Robby: 1:10:32

Nah another guy. Sound like Brecker, but the other guy who's always on like every podcast, he's on like Lex Friedman and Joe Rogan and Diary of CEO. Anyway, I'll it'll come back to me.

George: 1:10:44

Yeah, I'll think about it too.

Robby: 1:10:45

You know him 100%. Um he says this thing is like if you like that night where you sleep four hours because you're like, I just fucking just had to not get much sleep because I'm busy or had a late night, had to get up early, whatever it is. He's like, your risk of not killing off your cancer cells that day increases dramatically. But this is this was the one stat that blew my mind. He goes, like, uh, this was from a different guy, a sleep doctor, and he goes, There is actually a uh a global study that is done every year by default, and it's called Daylight Savings. And he goes, Did you know on daylight savings when uh we go back one hour? Sorry, when we go back one hour, you get an extra hour sleep. When we go forward one hour, you lose one hour's sleep. So when on the time that we go forward one hour and everyone loses an hour's sleep, uh heart attacks increase by 46% the next day. Oh wow. Isn't that wild? And then the other way around, when we go back one hour, everyone gets an extra, there's a there's a decrease of a similar amount of heart attacks on that on the following day. Like that's how important it is. And it's like it just it there is a direct flow of impact just because on that day people got less or more sleep. Yeah, man.

George: 1:12:03

I believe it, dude. I believe it. I because this this change in me, as in it's honestly been a lot since we've moved to this office, more so. But the change in since I've been getting solid sleep in my day, like I just feel awake. Like come six o'clock, I'm not just I'm not in the office groggy, tired, you know. I am awake at six, I'm ready to fucking go. And I don't feel tired at all through the day. You know, a lot of people like, oh, you get up so early, it's like, aren't you tired? I said, No, not at all. I get tired at nine o'clock and I go to bed. Yeah, I don't push through it and go, let me watch the next six series of these, the next six episodes of this series.

Robby: 1:12:40

I also think um when you if you're getting tired throughout the day, you're usually crashing from something. You know what I mean? So I would look at like what you're eating, what you're like, it's like there's something you're doing throughout the day. Yeah. Like I'll I'll uh I'll give you an example. I know if I have like a sugar-free red bull, that I'll usually crash like two hours after. Yeah, right. Yeah. I I know that for a fact. I'm like, if I have a red bull, I'm gonna feel it, I'm gonna pay for it in a few hours.

George: 1:13:10

Is that something you do normally?

Robby: 1:13:11

What?

George: 1:13:11

Like to have a red bull? Like, would you if you feel low on energy, would you be like, all right, I need to go have one of those energy drinks?

Robby: 1:13:20

Not unless I'm like, nah not really. No, I don't do it for energy. I like I don't mind a red bull.

George: 1:13:25

Yeah, it's very big. I actually on the is it really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I I I had the no sugar one the other day. I looked it up for that exact reason just to see, you know, what it was gonna, what the effects on it, and it wasn't that bad, but yeah, I'm sure the shit in it is great. You know what I mean? It's all the other stuff. I don't think it's calories aspect. From calorie aspect, it was fine. But I had one, so I drove somewhere and it was an hour and forty minutes away, and I was driving back the same day and I was like, I just want to have it because you know I want to get tired of driving and sip on something that's right, refreshing, refreshing. It was more just the action, I did it more for the just to keep me awake and alert. Yeah, it does and it does. Yeah, so on that basis, I was happy to have it. But yeah, I don't it's not normally a go-to thing for me ever.

Robby: 1:14:07

Yeah, but I just find like that's something that a pattern that I've picked up. Yeah, but like if you find that, you know, if anyone listening, if you find like a fuck man, you know, as soon as we hit 2 p.m., I'm like, you know, all the people that say like after lunch, man, like it's like, well, what are you having for lunch?

George: 1:14:21

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's not the lunchtime that does it, it's what you're consuming.

Robby: 1:14:25

Yeah, yeah. And it's like it's a really probably fine. Yeah, if you uh whatever you consume creates an ongoing effect in your body. So like if you have carbs, you might have a uh spike in glucose uh or insulin or whatever the fuck the thing is, and it's like that might be causing you to feel that way and just look at what you're doing because most you should not really and I didn't notice this until I did the carnival diet because it was a big thing that people said where it was like you shouldn't um your energy levels balance throughout the day when I did the carnival diet. And it's also like that people said that thing about mental clarity and blah blah blah. And I was like, Don't feel any different?

George: 1:15:06

I didn't feel any different, but I also didn't feel bad because you weren't that bad beforehand anyway. That's the thing. And this is what this is where I'm saying with with those people that did the test, they did nothing before. So it's like when they did the test, it's like wow, this is amazing. So I'm taking that into consideration too. Is it actually amazing, or is it because you're fat fucks and don't do anything anyway, that it was amazing? Yeah, right? Because if I go in there and as you said, they go, Oh, you need to have a little bit more vitamin D. And shut the fuck up. Like, no, tell me what I want to know. I want to be specific. So and I'll probably say that to them. I'm gonna preempt them before I get there. So, guys, I'm gonna be very disappointed if I get out the end of this and you just say, Oh, I could have got every all the information you give me, I could have got from a normal blood test, or just doing my own research. Well, it is a normal blood test. I I get that, I don't see it's anything different, but I'm talking about all the other scans, all the other things. Like, I want to be blown away when I if I'm gonna spend three grand on this test, like I want you to give me like if I'm gonna go spend three grand on new turbos on my car, I want it to go a lot fucking faster. I agree. You know what I mean? So turbo me up. Let me know. I'll be very interested to hear how they go. I'll do a bit more research before I actually book it in, that's for sure.

Robby: 1:16:19

Yeah, they tend to be very vague as well.

George: 1:16:21

Yeah, you get that's the thing, right? I I'd love to go somewhere that someone's someone who's a health expert tell me to go. Do you know what I mean? That'll be good. Hey, and if you're listening, reach out. If you're a health expert, let us know. Let's have it, let's have a chat. If you're a health expert, and if you've got any tips, uh, we'd love to hear them. Yeah. Do you know what else we would love? What's up? We would love it if you went over to our YouTube channel and subscribed. Press the red button. It is a red button on YouTube, I think. It is now. Oh, maybe it goes red when you press it. Either way, go and find out. Because we want to try and get to a thousand followers by the end of the year. Now I know it's a big ask, but it's not impossible. Nothing is impossible. So Robbie's gonna put it a link in the show notes, in the comments, in everywhere you could possibly think of. But all you have to do is go to YouTube and look up Million Dollar Days Pod and subscribe to the channel. And if you can't be bothered doing that, then subscribe to anywhere you listen to podcasts to this channel because it helps us grow our audience, reach more people, help more people, and connect with more people, and that's what we are all about. That's right.

Robby: 1:17:24

Almost at right almost at 500.

George: 1:17:27

Oh, cool, cool, thank you. So we're halfway, nearly halfway, guys. Get us how much till 500?

unknown: 1:17:33

How many?

George: 1:17:34

How much are we up? 15. 15. Easy. That's child's play. 15 people in the next week. Absolutely, absolutely, you could do it. So that's what we would love more than anything. To get 15 more people on board. And we've got heaps of content on there too, yeah. Like all the all the full podcast goes on there. So if you ever missed out on any other previous episodes, you can watch the whole thing. Or if you want to watch snippets of some of the best parts, you can go on there and see all the short clips. Um, you know, I think our most watched clip was something about being racist potentially. Oh no, I know what it was. Welcome to country.

Robby: 1:18:15

Yeah. Nothing to do with race. But welcome to country. And George just will take this moment to welcome you to his country. Thank you.

George: 1:18:21

Thanks for being here. Thank you. Great moment. Great. Do you want to thank the people before us though, as well? I mean, I haven't done much research, so I don't know who actually owns the country. Who owns the country now? Uh Kanye West. Albanese. Thank you, Kanye West. He owns the country. Yeezy. Well, if anyone was gonna buy it. If anyone was gonna if I wanted anyone to buy it, it'd be him. Australia's a wild place. Speaking of wild, off topic, I saw a snake the other day. And I sent uh put it on my socials and I was really surprised at how many people flipped. Yeah, snakes are um people are scared of snakes, like full phobia. I'm scared now. Don't have snakes in your office. It's gonna definitely be detrimental to your performance. I think it's the year of the snake. Is it?

Robby: 1:19:18

How exciting. I think it's the year of the snake. So it is. We'll wrap up with that. Alright, guys, thanks for listening. If you haven't subscribed, um please make sure you do. It's the only way we get to reach more people. Uh as always, if you haven't shared this with your mother, please do so now.

George: 1:19:36

That's it. And I hope you're having a million dollar day. Peace out, guys. Have a great week and see you next time. Thanks everyone.

Robby: 1:19:48

It is the year of the snake. See what I was at an Asian restaurant yesterday. Fucking Asians.