Million Dollar Days

Be Exceptional in 2026: Roll The Dice

• Robby Choucair and George Passas • Season 1 • Episode 115

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Ready to make 2026 the year you stop flirting with your goals and start owning them? We kick off with a bold reset: set “exceptional” as the baseline, not the bonus. That shift pulls everything else into focus—clearer standards, faster decisions, and the courage to pick risks that actually make your stomach flip. If the mind quits before the body, we build the kind of daily rules that carry us when motivation vanishes.

We unpack how comfort becomes the quiet ceiling on growth and why comparison is only toxic when it steals your joy. Observation, on the other hand, is a lever; study bigger players to spot your constraints and redesign your systems. We talk real stakes too—rolling the dice on a $10M+ project, using long-term strategy to eat small costs and win bigger trust, and building resilience so a hit that once ruined your week barely dents your morning. You’ll hear practical tactics for replacing hype with habits: no-snooze mornings, non-negotiable blocks, and micro-bravery reps that compound into macro wins.

There’s also a mindset audit: choose courage where fear lives, aim for bigger problems that elevate your capacity, and protect your home life from business shrapnel. We’re bringing in more guests this year—people who don’t always agree with us—to sharpen ideas and stress-test beliefs. If you want to play a bigger game, this conversation gives you the playbook: standards over slogans, discipline over dopamine, and smart risks over safe routines.

If you felt this, hit follow, subscribe on your favorite platform, and share it with a friend who’s ready to roll the dice in 2026. Then tell us: what’s your word of the year—and what scary move are you committing to this week?


George:

Hey. Hello. Happy New Year. Happy 2026 is here. Living in the future.

Robby:

What a time to be alive. Living in the future. We're halfway through the uh the 20s decade. You know, in three more years, it'll be a hundred years since the Great Depression.

George:

That long. Yeah. Feels like it was I was only depressed yesterday.

Robby:

Yesterday. Since the Great. One day they'll say that about COVID. Like the Great COVID.

George:

The Great COVID.

Robby:

Yeah. COVID the Great. Um, but welcome. Welcome to 2026. This podcast has been going on since 23, George. That's sick. Established 2023. Should put that on the hats now. Gonna get some new merch rolling in for 2026, but I hope your years are off to a magnificent start.

George:

Yes, all the new year's resolutions that you've made.

unknown:

Yeah.

George:

Just the ones that you threw them. The ones that you haven't fucked up yet. Have you joined the gym yet? Have you stopped smoking? You're losing weight, you're going for walks.

Robby:

Yeah. Are you eating better? You're booking that holiday. Are you quitting that job? Firing that client, taking that leap of faith, hiring that person, asking the girl, whatever it is for you, or guy. Definitely another guy. Whatever it is for you. I hope your years come off to a flying start. Um George, what's gonna be uh what's gonna be different this year? It's 2026. You know what I mean? Time is going. What's uh what's different for George in 2026?

George:

I think something life changing is gonna happening. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You know that's how pump time I can't even put a sentence together.

Robby:

Yeah, all just fell apart. Something life-changing is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I reckon it's gonna be sick.

George:

I reckon it's gonna be a good yeah. Yeah, it's uh like I'm talking just like just sick shit. Uh 25 was a good year. Twenty-five was. Yeah, it's got its overall, I'd give it a tick. Try to give it one or the other, it was a tick. Yeah, it's very rarely. As much as there were challenges and and things that came up, as there always is, it was a good year.

Robby:

Anything uh anything exciting or uh out of the blue, you know, any big announcements for 2026? Anything that's gonna kick off the year?

George:

Yeah, I'm gonna win a project that's over ten million dollars. That'll be one of the things at PASCON. What I not when I say me, I mean the company will win a project that's over ten million dollars, that'll be a significant business uh goal and milestone. The um and I just feel that something's just gonna go boom and just click and explode, and we're like, all right, let's let's fucking go.

Robby:

And now last episode you said uh your word of the year was persistence. What's the word for 26?

George:

Or starting off the year now, you're in Aquarius. Of course, of course, it's the only way to be the word of the year I'm gonna go with exceptional.

Robby:

Why?

George:

Because why be anything else? Why be anything else? Why should I have not why should I man I can't talk today?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm gonna okay, guys, episode's over. Maybe make it uh maybe make it nervous.

George:

Yeah, I'm nervous. It's my first time 2026. Word of the year, nervous. Um exceptional because what I mean, why why go for ordinary? Why set my horizon so low? Because I can achieve it. Why not have an exceptional year? Why have why be like, oh, it's gonna be okay?

Robby:

What's one thing this year now, and I'm hope everyone listens to this, you probably already set your goals. If you haven't, you're fucking around and you're leaving that to what do you can do, set it in February. Um, what's one thing that George that's gonna change for George in 2026?

George:

I'm gonna be a lot more aggressive in the sense of pursuit of of pursuing things that I want. Yeah, like like I I feel that sometimes I'm so busy and there's so much going on in so many areas of my life, both professionally and personally, that I want to actually really challenge myself and actually pursue these things that I really, really want and not procrastinate at all. You know, have a reputation for getting shit done, yeah. For you know, for excelling in that sp in in whatever I do. You know, when someone says, okay, George has got it, fuck, it's done. He did it yesterday. If it's with yeah, exactly right. Not oh, it'll be done next week. Oh, he'll get to it when he gets to it, oh he's he's busy, you know. No, no, it's done. Consider it done. So I really want to have that mindset throughout 26 and then continue that forever on in a day as well.

Robby:

What um you know even people like people to look at you and just go, fuck. You know, what's what is that though? Like, what's the next thing? Like, for example, when we first started this podcast, yeah, we would always talk about uh you know playing a bigger game, and and at the start it did this felt like playing a bigger game.

George:

It was massive. When you first when you go from nothing to this, yeah, yeah.

Robby:

It felt like a huge step. Yeah, and it was like, and now like you know, neon sign. Yeah, you've that's uh if there's any sort of signal, what's the emblem? What's the word I'm looking for here?

George:

Um Aquarius.

Robby:

Aquarius. I want like some kind of verification if there's any sort of sign that you've made it, but not the word sign, but you know what I'm trying to say. Um it's when you have a neon sign in your podcast room. Um but you know what I mean? Like when we first did this, it was like cool, that was really stepping out of your boundary. I think one of the biggest uh I don't want to call it a fault because it's not necessarily a fault, but it's something that I think most people tend to do is you can get really comfortable with where you're at. Like the the thing that pushed you initially no longer becomes a thing. And I I share this thing about you know, we we you and I met as part of a business group, and you know, we go to all these business groups and they talk about getting out of your comfort zone and doing all this sort of stuff, and uh people in those groups would say, Yeah, yeah, you know, we're all about that, we're all about getting uncomfortable and go, and then they would stay in the same group for seven years.

George:

Yeah, and then you're like, Well or even when they leave, they're still doing the same stuff, yeah.

Robby:

And that yeah, and then it's like, well, it's a very paradoxical statement because it's like you're saying you're claiming that you do the thing that you don't like until you start to like it and you don't want to do something else, and you're like, no, no, it's fine, but this is already that uncomfortable thing, but it's only uncomfortable for a period of time. And then it becomes a new norm, you know. Do you ever feel like um like does this feel out of you know, do you feel like you're stretching yourself now? I don't like in the sense of with this stuff, like it's like, okay, well, how do we, you know, do we do we start dropping two episodes a week? Do we start dropping uh do we go for bigger productions, bigger guests? Yeah. How do we take this thing to the next level? Yeah, uh, and I I really think about that question a lot of the time. Is there people you see in Australia specifically, where you're like, that guy's playing a way bigger game than I am.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, oh absolutely.

Robby:

You know, and I know we said I think about comparisons, a thief of joy and blah blah blah, but it's not like yes, it is, yeah, but if you let it.

George:

Do you know what I mean? I would like to compare myself to an elite athlete or someone that's the same age as me in the best condition that they're in. I don't look at it and go, look at that guy, he's absolutely jacked. I'm I'm sad. Do you know what I mean? No, but I think well done, dude. Like good stuff. Like maybe I connect with you, or hey, that's a goal that I want to achieve, and I'm gonna I'm gonna put in the effort to do that.

Robby:

Yeah, but so observation without comparison.

George:

Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a great way to put it. Yeah. It's like you can look at the so but you want to also compare, but because there's a level of being compared to as well, because okay, well, I look at that, I'm not there yet, or I'm not that.

Robby:

And that's the part where the sadness comes in. If you let it, if you let it make you sad, really, yeah, it says it's human nature, like in the sense of not in the like I know what you're saying, like a little drivey and blah blah blah, but you know, observation is like that's a cool car, man. I'd love to have that one day. Comparison is that's that car's way cooler than mine.

George:

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, it's already it's a negative um thought. Yeah, do you get it?

Robby:

So um I don't think there's anything wrong with observing what's around. I don't think there's anything wrong with measuring the gap between you and someone else and saying, how do I get there? Yeah. Um, but yeah, I think if you're always looking at what other people have, I think that can lead to an unhappy life. But the reason why I say that is I I see some people, mainly Australia-based. I don't, you know, you look at people in the States and it's like a whole different world.

George:

Yeah, it is. It's funny how that that that happens.

Robby:

What do you mean?

George:

Like it's just you wouldn't think it's that different, but it really is.

Robby:

It's like a whole different one.

George:

The cultural differences are massive.

Robby:

Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I like it. Shout out to the you were just there. Shout out to the um story for another time.

George:

Uh I look at some people in Australia and I see what they're doing, and I think like fame like as in known people, or just your barber.

Robby:

Uh I'll I'll give you nah nah. Like a a really good example is like uh an Adrian Portelli. Do you know what I mean? You look at him, you're like, fuck boo, like this guy's doing well. Like, good on him. You know what I mean? Or like a couple of guys been following uh more recently is there's two brothers. Um fuck, I forget the surname, but uh one's name, one of the name's Frank, pretty sure. They're building an AI app. Oh, yeah, okay. And have you seen him? No. They've he's been in real estate world. Uh Frank and I think Jacques, Jacques, Jack, I don't know how it's shock.

SPEAKER_00:

It might be French. No, it is, it's Jacques. You know, no, no idea. But it's definitely that.

Robby:

Anyway, and um they're doing some cool stuff, man. And I look at them and I think, and like they're launching this whole like they're doing a full startup thing, they've made no revenue in their business, and they like they got like a million bucks in payroll. And he did this video about payroll tax the other day. And I look at them, and I and they did a$180 million exit in their 20s. And I just thought, like, that's fucking cool, dude. Like, good on you, good on you, good on you for doing it, good on you for getting back in the game.

George:

Don't have to.

Robby:

Yeah, wild. Um, but yeah, look at people like that or people that have done significant things that are like younger than me. And I think, huh, like you're playing a bigger game than me.

SPEAKER_00:

So is that taking your joy away?

Robby:

I think the consistent comparison can, yeah, yeah, can make you feel like you're a shit kicker.

George:

Yeah. Demotivating a little bit. Yeah, that's why I Because it's not through a lack of effort. Yeah. You know, you are trying hard. And when I say you, I mean people, you'd like the person. You're trying hard. But are you focusing your energy in the right thing? It's like, you know, I'll we we discuss it all the time. Like, what is it that's gonna the thing that we're doing today isn't gonna get us the yacht, but what is it? Or is it a part of that process? Like, is this the step 38 that we're at before we get to step 100? And then go, I needed to take those steps to get the yacht.

Robby:

Maybe.

George:

I'm just gonna you're getting through pumped.

Robby:

Yeah, we're getting it's we're warming up. We're warming up. We're gonna throw this and hopefully not knock out half the world.

unknown:

Ah, fuck it.

Robby:

Anyway, um, yeah, I look at people like that. I don't I don't necessarily compare myself to them. I don't know anything about them. Like, I don't have enough data points to compare. But I I look at what they're doing and I think, cool, like, how do we start doing more like that? Do you know what I mean? So, like a big thing for myself in 2026 is I want to roll the dice a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, good.

George:

You know what I mean? Like take more risks, yeah.

Robby:

Bite off a little bit more than I could chew.

George:

Yeah, and that's exactly how I feel too. And that's but I feel that but in doing so, that's where the change comes. That's where those things happen. You're gonna have to. It's like I've had so many people say, Fuck, a$12 million job, man. Why do you want to do that? Like, that's that's scary. Like, that's how are you gonna do it? Figure it out, man. Like, we'll get I know how to do it, just execute, just do it. Like, what's the worst that's gonna happen? Yeah, you have there has to be a level, there has to be a level of bravery in it, but you can't be brave without the absence of fear. Otherwise, you're just existing. Like something you have to be in order to be brave, you have to be there has to be something that you're scared of to be brave.

Robby:

Yeah. Uh uh there's a good saying around that with courage. Yeah, it's not courage, it's not courage if you're not scared.

George:

Yeah, it's something like yes, that's right.

Robby:

Um, yeah, I I wanna I want something that's gonna scare me a bit.

George:

Yeah. Yeah. And and like don't get me wrong, but it is intimidating saying, okay,$12 million project, but it's also all right, I know I've got this, like I know I can do it. Yeah, but like and then soon you'd be like, is that the and then you go, oh, is that all? Is that all that project's worth?

Robby:

Do you know you know like those people that really push the boundary, right? Uh think like uh Grand Cartoon. I watched someone an interview once and he's like, I want to do a I want to do a$100 million project or something, something like that. I want to do a hundred million dollar investment, single investment. And then the guy on the interview goes, Why not a billion? And he's like, Whoa, whoa. And you like you see, like even people like that have a boundary. Do you know what I mean? And he like the other guy pushed him to the point where it kind of scared him a bit. And that was like, I don't know, seven, eight years ago. So now he probably he would do it. Pre-COVID. It was pre-COVID, yeah. Yeah, it was pre-COVID.

George:

Because he made a lot of money over COVID. Yeah, he's when people were selling and people weren't doing anything, he went in and just flinked up. Yeah, he went and bought all this stuff, and he always said it too. Because I started following him late to late tens. Is that how he say it? Teens, 2018, or somewhere like that, something like that. I started following him. 20 teens? Yeah, the 20 teens. I don't fucking know. We're just making up words now.

SPEAKER_00:

All words are made up.

Robby:

2026. Someone made up the words, that's true. All words are made up. All words are made up. Um until Webster puts them in a dictionary.

George:

Now I forgot what I was saying. Oh, and he used to say in GFC, like in 2008, when the first GFC hit, like he was scared, he was unprepared, he almost lost everything. And he goes, he learned from that lesson. He goes, the next time there's a GFC, he goes, I'm gonna be a fucking multi-millionaire. Like it's going to, he goes, I'm gonna make so much money. And to his credit, he did. He went out there during that COVID period. And I remember that because he was high, he had about 200 employees, 300 employees. He fired like 60% of his workforce overnight, just like that, because the government shut everything down. He goes, Cool, you're all fired, fuck off. And he fired everyone, but then he went out and bought all this property and then he hired 500 people, you know. So even though he got rid of 300, he then came out and hired another 200 on top of that. So he he grew and became bigger and better. He protected the ship. He was prepared and he was willing to take the risk, and it paid off. He learned from that difficult period, and that's what I'd like to think. You know, uh, I've always said that COVID was a difficult time for me from a professional point of view, also um personal, but from the perspective of the next time that happens, I'm going to be much better prepared and much read, much more ready for what is to come.

Robby:

Do you feel like you've been playing small?

George:

I feel that from time, purely because I get so I'm so consumed with what's going on.

Robby:

Yeah, I think there's that element. I think there's also the element of like, nah, I'm ready to what are you talking about? I've got a podcast and I've got and then you like I've got this other business putting all this content out to bring the country, and then it's like, but that becomes normal.

George:

Yeah, it is. That's right. Like the fuck. When we started doing events, I look at the event space now. It's like we did a few in Melbourne. Like, oh, we'll do two this year.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

George:

And then it's like, like, which states are we going to? Like this month. And you're like, cool, let's go to Perth. We go to Perth. Like, it's three hours away. That was great. That was a great thing. That was a great event. All our Perth friends, and see you all soon. A built mastery in a couple months. Um, yeah, but and then it's like, well, fuck it. Let's go into let's go international.

Robby:

Is that are you making an announcement?

George:

Yeah, I'm yeah. I reckon we could go, I reckon there's a good chance we'll go to New Zealand this year. Just fucking say it now. Hey, pull it. I'm going to New Zealand. That's it. Build us. Fucking build the summit. New Zealand. The summit New Zealand. I'm going to teach you how to build properly in New Zealand. Not like you did. Maybe they build properly and we don't. Maybe they'll teach me something. Maybe. I doubt it. Let's be serious. Yeah, come on. Come on. Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Get to build New Zealand episode.

Robby:

20 podcast episodes you got.

George:

Yeah, but like you're right. You're right. I like, and sometimes you believe the own your own hype. Sorry, not your own hype. You believe the hype. Oh, how do you do so much? Wow, you're so busy. Oh man, you're everywhere. Oh, you're killing it. Oh, yeah, I am. I am killing it. I do put out a lot of content. Oh, you know what? Like, I am busy. Yeah. I'm doing a big job. I do great projects. I do have a team. And then I think that's dangerous as well. The people around you? No, in the sense of you starting to listen to the noise. Like the same way you don't. I'm pretty good at blocking out negative things, whether it's you know social media content or people or whatever it is. I'm very, I'm pretty good at it. It doesn't affect me too much. But in the same token, you have to use it on the flip side and block out all the praise as well. Because I think that can be just as detrimental when you start to buy into the hype of how good you are, and oh, you're killing it and you're doing this and you're doing this, and wow, you're the best. I think that can be really detrimental to you getting goals, get achieving your goals or achieving the things that you want. Because you start to buy in and you take your foot off the accelerator.

Robby:

Yeah, taking your foot off the accelerator is a it's a real thing. It is 100%. 100% everyone does it. Yeah, and you you don't notice, or like you almost, and it's like, can I explain it? It's very common to get comfortable. You know what I mean? It's like all of a sudden, like, okay, cool. Like it's human nature. We've made a bit of money. Yeah, it's human nature, man.

George:

It is. It's a butt to protect what is it? Um survival instinct. That's right. Yeah, from it, like it's a really energy preservation. Yes, yes, it's exactly that. You're comfortable. Hey, you made a million, we've got a million bucks in the bank. Oh, yeah, it's just brief. How good's that? Yeah, go and go have a nice meal. Yeah.

Robby:

Like, yeah, that's it.

George:

Just relax. You've earned it. Well done. Like, no, go get 50 mil. So so what is it? How do how do you I think. You have to have to you have to train yourself to not stop. Yeah. There has to be that constant thing in your head of no fucking keep going, keep moving. I'm gonna be real honest for a second. Just for one second. Then I'm gonna go back to lying. Yeah. So I would be lying and remiss if I ever said that I never like I'm I've been working out uh I've been working out for the last say year and a half, and I've got some great results. I had an operation early last year, so then there was a good six months that I didn't really train that well, and then I've gotten back into training, say, over the last two months. Well, yeah, for six months. I reckon, so when did we get back from overseas? So mid-year, yeah, well, probably four or five months. Yeah. I reckon I didn't train for a good four to five months, yeah, after operation. Because it was a period in which I actually because I had hernia, so I didn't train when I had the hernia. And then it was the period when I got the surgery, which was a couple months after I found that I had the hernia, and then it was a good four months, four or five months that I didn't train really. Light training, not I would consider. But then I got back into the gym, I called my PT up, I said, hey, let's get going, we've got to do it again. Got back into the gym and like instant strength. Like I felt strong again, almost instantly. So it's good. I had muscle memory, I didn't feel like I'd I'd lost too much. But I'd be lying if I ever said I didn't doubt at times that I will never achieve, or not that I will never, that I won't achieve, say, six pack abs or the body that I desire. There's like that little inkling in my first operation? No, just regardless. Even before.

Robby:

Okay.

George:

You know, it's like, oh, you know, I'm it's all right, like I'm in good shape. I'm not overweight. Yeah, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I don't smoke, I eat well. But you know, okay, I've still got a bit of a spare tire. But that's all right. I'm 40, I'm a dad, I don't need to be in the best shape of my life. Like that doubt sets in because you start to believe the hype and you go, well, cool, look, I've got some muscles, I'm all right. Look, I'm fit, I'm pretty strong, look, I can lift some heavy weights. Doesn't matter if I'm not in ripped condition. Like, no, why do I allow myself to think that and believe like that and have that self-doubt? So, no, it's not this isn't negotiable. This has to be done. You are going to do this.

Robby:

Is it self-doubt or is it um acceptance? It's is it like a I can't, or is it like a you're all right, man?

George:

Like, yeah, I reckon it's the it's that comfort. Yeah, it's that you know, the angel and the devil, it's the comfort. Hey man, just have the donut. Hey, like fuck, man. Donuts, yeah. Let's go, let's go sideways for a second. You know that one time we went to the airport and we got a crispy cream donut, the Homer Simpson one? Changed my life. I changed it. I've never had one, like I've never had a crispy cream like Homer Simpson donut. And I just remember that day we got it, it was like the best. I don't know what it was, whether we just had a big day out at the Builder Summit and we just had something sweet. It was the greatest thing, yeah. It was the greatest thing I've ever had. Greatest thing ever had. And every time I go to an airport now, I just I want to get one.

Robby:

It's uh good memories. Donuts uh when I was a mechanic, you know, it was my uh breakfast or two things, cigarette, red bull, and a donut donut, red bull, ciggy that was and then smoker, sausage roll, red bull, ciggy, yeah.

George:

Yep, how good you don't make them like this, that's it, built different. Um, yeah, so there was that level of doubt there, but in order for me to push through that, like I've got to go and I've got to block. How'd you get on the donuts from that? Um, the angel of the devil, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Have another donut. So yeah, it's there's that, and you look at that aspect and go, okay, well, where else does that show up in my life? If I've got that self-doubt of going, okay, I'm never gonna have washboard absorption, it's okay, George. You don't need to.

Robby:

All right, just make yourself believe it's too difficult and it's or it's acceptable not to.

George:

Like, why not? It's just all right, man, you're in good shape. You don't need to have washboard abs. You know, like just live a little, have the donut. But then you look at that and go, okay, is that the standard that I want to set for myself? Is that the standard that I want to set for others in my organization, in my life? It's not for my kids, my partner, my friends, my family. No. So I think there is that constant battle on a daily basis where you have to, it's like it's like uh Goggins calls it, the you know, he's in a bitch. The inner bitch talks to you. I say, hey dude, relax. You don't need to go to the gym today. Why? Go to the gym every fucking day. Just because you went four times this week, you can go and have ice cream. No, go again, go twice a day. It's like with the podcast. Cool, film it twice a day. You're telling me you couldn't find an hour every single day to do a podcast? Yeah.

Robby:

I I I think everyone has an hour. Yeah, exactly. Right. That's the reality. Like, I think we waste so much time.

George:

Yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt. You you if you can pack your whole day with like really impactful things, like you'll kill it. You will kill it. Yes, you've got to be organized, yes, you've got to be disciplined, you have to hit those targets, like they're just gonna be not negotiable things, but you can do so much throughout the day.

Robby:

So get more done.

George:

It's just the discipline. It's a discipline, it's the habit. It's not a matter of you being motivated. I think motivation is it's not a thing you can turn on. You know, you can't wake up in the morning and let's go, I'm motivated now. Or you can't be like, cool, four o'clock hits. I'm gonna be so fucking motivated to do this task. I'm gonna be so motivated to go to the gym at 4 p.m. You're not. It's the discipline that's gonna get you there, it's the habits that's going to get you there. It's that unwavering belief. It's like you with you and your ice baths. It's like your mind is telling you, what is it? Yeah, it's your mind. You'd say, fuck, this is cold. Telling me no. Yeah, remember, buddy. But you're there and you're saying, like you're saying, hey, hey, this isn't negotiable. I say go, we go. Yeah, you know, every single time.

Robby:

I reckon, even till now, every single time in the ice bath, I try and convince myself to get out earlier. I said, don't worry, just get out two minutes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robby:

Just two minutes today. Yeah, just do two minutes today. Like, this is cold, man, it hurts. Yeah, just do longer than anyone else is doing it.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like no one else is doing two minutes, they all get in game. George is not doing it. Yeah, George's not doing it. George's never done it. He's never done it, he's not going to do it.

George:

You're in here for two whole minutes.

SPEAKER_01:

Fuck that guy.

Robby:

Yeah, but then I always say, like, if you give in at that moment, you're setting the precedence for the day.

George:

It's like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, I went to the gym today and I was doing leg extensions. And the first set I did, I like, it's funny. When I'm working out, I was with my PT, it's like I get to eight and it just dies. Like I get to a certain number, and then I've got nut I can't lift. I can't do it. I can't lift, like my leg, my body just doesn't want to lift anymore as much as I want to. And then the second set, I was like, nah, fuck this. I'm doing 12 now. I'm gonna go 12 the whole way. And I did. Like, what had changed in that moment? I was still, it was still the same muscles, it was still the same weight. If anything, I should be more fatigued because I just did a set. But in the second one, I got through. I'd I talked myself into it. In my own mind, it was like, no, we are doing 12. You don't worry at eight, it's gonna burn and you're gonna keep pushing and you're gonna keep pushing. And did I got killed? I got up limping, like, but I did it.

Robby:

And that was the worst feeling.

George:

Uh, it's but it's a horrible feeling. It is, it is, but you gotta like you want the growth.

Robby:

It's not fun though. You've got to be uncomfortable. Uh, but most um most of the time you just need to convince yourself mentally, right?

George:

It's such a mental game. Like it your mind will give up before your body does. Uh no, is that it? Yeah, your mind gives up before your body does. Your body actually has a lot in it.

Robby:

Uh, there's a great saying by Joko Willink. Do you know Joko?

SPEAKER_00:

You do. I do.

Robby:

But no? If you show me, 100%. The big guy, the the navy seal dude.

George:

Oh, yes, yes, yes. I know who you're talking about.

Robby:

Yeah. Uh his thing is all failure is psychological except for death. Wow. I think that's it. I'm pretty sure, yeah. All failure is psychological except for death. So anytime you feel like you failed, it's a mental thing.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Robby:

That's all it is. It's because you chose that the failure is mental because you chose to say I'm gonna hit this thing and you didn't hit it.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

But apart from that, what in that is failure, apart from saying that you tried and didn't achieve it.

George:

And didn't get the achievement, yeah.

Robby:

Yeah, it's like it's all psychological. Um we could probably do a whole episode on the power of the mind.

George:

Yeah, without a doubt.

Robby:

Okay, so what uh 2026. What's one thing? What's one habit Georgia's gonna bring in? Or you've already started to bring in. Maybe. Probably not.

George:

I don't know. I I'm definitely gonna I'm definitely gonna get my six pack body this year. Oh, you calling it? Yeah, fucking high. Absolutely. Calling it. I've already started off great. Like I started off late November.

Robby:

Two months head start?

George:

Yeah. Six weeks. Yeah, that's it. Like I started off uh I think it was mid-November with training, and then you see the results. Like I've already seen results, and it's like, well, cool, keep it going. Over the Christmas break, like there's the excuse, ah, we're on holidays. It's all right, have the donuts, have the ice cream, have the beer. Like, no, don't want it. Don't want it. I got no like I went out for dinner a couple weeks ago. Um, you know, especially coming into the end of the year with all the parties and all that sort of shit coming up, and you go and meet people and clients. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, oh, have a drink. I've said not hamper. Doing the carnival diet. Yes. And like, oh, really? How is it? And it's funny, it's as soon as you say I'm doing the carnival diet, it's like they don't push alcohol anymore. Whereas if you're like, yeah, or when you're telling them you're training or whatever it might be, I find that people sort of back off a little bit. Whereas if you're like, oh, I have a drink, nah, I'm all right. I'll just have some water. Come on, mate. What's wrong with you? Don't be that guy. Don't be If you are that guy. I'm him. I am him. Um, so yeah, that's one thing I definitely want to achieve from a personal perspective is get into really, really good shape um and be really strong and really fit and healthy.

Robby:

Is there anything you're gonna do that scares you, George? Like do an ice bath. That doesn't scare me. Hey? That doesn't scare me.

SPEAKER_01:

Then do it. I don't want to. Come on.

George:

Um, I might, uh but it's not like bucket list stuff. Bucket list. You know, 20. Do you know? The other day I was at a party at my house, and just the Christmas thing with the family, and I put my hand in the ice bucket to get a drink out for someone. I actually left it in there for a bit, and it fucking hurt. Yeah, imagine that's your whole body. I was like, nah, fucking. It doesn't, yeah.

Robby:

Your hands and hands and feet hurt the most.

George:

Why would I do that? Um scary, scary, scary. I'm gonna do okay. I know what I know, I know, I know, I know, I don't know. I'm going to make a decent investment, financial one. In a development, in stocks, in something. So that's gonna be something that'll come up next year. This year, sorry.

Robby:

Make your money work for you?

George:

Yeah, absolutely. I think that's where I've I've always been a the grinding type. Work at it, keep going, keep pushing, keep making the money, keep doing that. And now it's now I'm at that stage where I could be like, cool, let's start being a bit smarter with this. You know, why do we have to wait 10 years before you make the$10 million? Why not make it in two months? And that's what I mean. Oh man, I I feel that it's not far. Like, I just want to get to that point where it's like, cool, you're having the the million dollar months. A million dollar days? No, days will come. Let's get to months first. All right, like the million dollar months, yeah. Like, why not? Why not be turning over three, four, five, ten million dollars a month? Like, go do it. There's people, is uh is tell me, is there anyone out there doing it? Many people. Yes, exactly. So it can be done, it's not impossible. Are there marketers out there doing it? Are there builders out there doing it? And fucking why aren't we doing it? What's that missing link? And that's what we ask each other a lot. And this is what's great about having someone in your corner that you can have these discussions with. Because there's not many people. Look at your friendship group. Do you have those discussions with them? Yeah. Same. No. Never.

unknown:

Yeah.

George:

We've got one mate who's a business owner, and we we have that conversation from time to time, but not like me and you, we see each other almost every day. And we it's like, I think about it. I go for a walk with a dog and I think about that stuff. What is it? What am I not doing? Should I become a fucking crypto bloke? Why not? I think Do you know what I mean? Like, why if there's a shortcut? One of those guys. Crypto George. Crypto George. Crypto G. Yeah. Crypto G. Top George.

SPEAKER_00:

I am getting that tag. Crypto G. Yeah, the crypto G. Give me a can scan handle. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. That's the word. Um, you can.

SPEAKER_01:

So you're welcome. Thanks. Um, I had a headache today. I've got an excuse.

SPEAKER_00:

You're the social media guy that hands out New York and Phillips in the middle of the day.

George:

He did, he did. I'll pay you back.

Robby:

Um, yeah, I I think it's it is a great question. Do you know what I mean?

George:

It is so good.

Robby:

People need to And you reckon Is there an answer? Like one thing.

George:

Yeah. Is there an answer? Probably.

Robby:

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, probably.

George:

And do you reckon when you get it, you'll be like, fuck. I think at all that times doing all those things when I could have just done that one thing.

Robby:

I don't think that's it, man.

George:

I kind of agree with you what you're about to say.

Robby:

I think it comes down to like your ability. I I purposefully believe, purposeful purposely, sorry, believe that you will stop yourself from doing something that you think is going to cause you more harm. And that's why the growth tends to tends to happen in increments. Because you now, like now, something happens now, you're like, like, let's just say, for example, something that is quite serious and happens in your business. Now that happens to you seven, eight years ago, and you're messed. Yeah, you're fucked. Yeah, you're fucked. You're like, how am I gonna get out of this? Yeah, oh my god, like what am I gonna do? And then and then now you're kind of like, all right, I'm just gonna walk it off.

George:

I remember yeah, I remember a client once not paying me$15,000.

Robby:

Yeah, that's that's that that happened to me once. I was very, very upset.

George:

Yeah. I was completely upset. Like, don't get me wrong, I don't I don't enjoy that now. No, but but it's like you I said it to my nephew the other day. We're uh I was having a coffee with him and and and his uncle his m his parents and we're talking and like oh I'm like we're talking about something like oh yeah, they they owe me 15 grand. I was like, what? It's like 15 grand. I said, whatever. I I rode that off a long time ago. It's not worth my time now to chase a lot of people.

Robby:

Constantly like to constantly be upset about it.

George:

Yeah, but also the mental like the time it's gonna take me, I'll make 15 grand here. Why am I gonna worry about 15 grand with them? Negative energy, bad people, like karma's gonna come get you one day, or if it hasn't already, like fuck yeah. Whereas back when I first started my business, if you said 15 grand, like I would stay awake for weeks, yeah. Like, don't like don't talk to me. It's like, what's the matter with you? You're pale. It's like, oh, just fucking 15 grand, he's not paying me. I don't know what to do.

Robby:

And that's a that's a real thing because you don't have the resilience muscle.

George:

And yeah, that's right. That's right. And it's like uh uh you mentioned GC before, and I was listening years ago to something you were telling me. He goes, He was telling you, yeah, he's told me personally, I was having a chat. I've met GC before, shook his hand, he's a lot shorter than you. You've seen the photo is a lot shorter than I first, you know. When you see him on stage and just his personality, you'd expect him to be a really big guy, as in in stature and height, but he's a more guy.

Robby:

He's a good dude, either.

George:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, doing sick shit. Anyway, and he was like, you know, you don't your problem is isn't the client that hasn't paid you. That he's not the problem, because the problem is you don't have enough clients. Because if you had 200 clients, and if three don't pay you, you don't give a fuck. So whatever. You're your your weeds, like someone go sort here, you just throw 50 grand to your lawyers and go, hey, just sort them out so I don't have to fucking talk to them. All communications through you don't come to me unless I'm signing a checkbook. That's it. That's it. No ifs, no buts. That's what it is. Go and you know that that hit home when I first thought about it. It's like, yeah, but you're right. So the problem isn't that I've got you know a problem with his one client, it's that I don't have 200. So go out and get more clients. That's what I did.

Robby:

But then that that's uh that becomes the next thing.

George:

It's like you can't handle how you're gonna manage 200 clients.

Robby:

How are you gonna manage 200 clients? Because then you're gonna have 200, and then 10 of them are gonna have big problems. Yeah, and then it's like, well, I couldn't even handle one big problem. So you there is a part of you, I believe, and maybe this is just an excuse, but there's a part of you that is going to not allow you to see the thing that it believes is gonna hurt you. Does that make sense? If you've got a very bad association to growth in your business, there's gonna be some part of you that's going to limit that. And you gotta spend all your waking time trying to find what that is. You know what I mean? And I think Elon Musk is like it's like it's like uh it's like growing a company is like staring out into the abyss and chewing glass. It's it is it's painful, dude. There's there's days where you just think man, like what the fuck am I doing? Like what I just went through then was not worth anything.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

Do you know what I mean? It's like this is not worth what am I doing? Like this is fucking in the hope, in the hope that you get to a position where it all pays off and then you think, all right, that one's worth it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Robby:

And most people that tend to get to that position tend to say, yeah, it's worth it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Robby:

I don't know anyone who does it all and then says, Yeah, that was fucked.

George:

But also, I don't know, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone that's in the business space or made this money ever turn around and say, zero hard days. Like zero problems. We went from zero to a million. Man, I've yeah, and it was like smooth. It was the easiest thing I've ever done in my life. Yeah. Now I'm sure once you've made those for that first 10, 20, 100 mil, the next millions are easier because you know the game a bit better.

Robby:

But that first hit, that's um, yeah, the hits all the hits get bigger, but you get stronger.

George:

Yeah.

Robby:

So you start to learn, okay, cool. Okay, yeah, I've been here before. Um, we know how to get out of this situation. Yeah, you know, blah, blah.

George:

It's a game, man. Like there's it's there's strategy. Yeah, sick fucking. That's right. There's strategy behind it, there's wins behind it. It's like, you know, the other day I had my one of an architect I was speaking with. He's like, Oh, you know, client doesn't like this, doesn't like this, and blah, blah, blah. He goes, Oh, it's it's gonna cost seven grand. Oh, look, don't worry about it. I'll wear it. I'll wear it. Because long term I knew this seven grand was nothing. Right. Now if I made the architects because I was in the right. Okay. Now if I made the architect look like an idiot because he didn't document something, and then I made the client pay for that documentation. You know what I mean? This architect. Yeah. Oh, so okay, cool. Seven grand. You lose the next job. But exactly. Look at what this architect, he's already lined me up for another two projects. And I was like, I'm going to worry about$7,000 now. I'm going to lose sleep over that. When I've got a guy who I'll look after, he'll look after me. He'll give me more work. There'll be other projects that come up. And he trusts me. He knows he can work in with me. So it's never going to be a matter of, oh, you know, I can't give him more work because he's just going to screw me over again if I miss one little thing or make a mistake. Yeah. Hang him out to dry. So you it's a part of the game. You have to be able to take some wins, but uh take the losses as well as the wins. That happens a lot in the construction space, huh? Yeah, heaps, man. Heaps. Every single, like as I said, there's so many different packages that you've got to deal with. Like you're going to have a package where you make lots of money. So when I say package, say you windows. Yep. So you're going to get windows and you've allowed 200 grand in your budget and then you find someone to deliver it for 150. And you go, great, same product, quality, everything's there. You've just picked up 50k. And then you do your carpentry and you've missed this section of cladding. And that's going to cost you 10. It's okay. Well, cool. Well, it's swings and roundabouts. It's you're going to have your wins, you're going to have your losses. But overall, the intent is you protect the money that you've set out to make on the job. That's what it's about. It's a game. It's a good game. Yeah, it is, man. And that's with any business, though. All right. You're a brewster or you have a cafe, you pay 30 cents for coffee cups. Okay, 30 cents each for a coffee cup. And then you find a place in China that you can bulk buy and they cost you five.

Robby:

Like that's a win. Yeah, you reduce your cost. Play the game better. Play a bigger game.

SPEAKER_00:

Play a bigger game. Some might say. Some might.

Robby:

But yeah, I I think that's gonna be a real core focus for me this year. Just being bigger? Yeah, it's like did this, did this, did this, did this. Now it's time to do this.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

Robby:

And for those of you who are like, what are you talking about? I went up and plateaued and up and plateaued. Um I forget people listen only to this. But yeah, I think that's gonna be a core focus. I think it's like, cool man, let's bite bite the bullet. You know what I mean? Let's bite off more than we can chew. Let's see. Let's take a roll the dice.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Robby:

2026, the year of the dice, I'm gonna call it.

George:

That's your word or phrase. We'll call it your phrase, but yeah, roll the dice.

Robby:

Roll the dice. Alright, roll the dice. I like it. It's got a nice uh roll six. Um yeah, I I think that's gonna be core focus. A real, real, real core focus. Like really, you know, swing the pendulum. Push the pendulum, whatever the fuck they call that stupid thing. Fuck that thing. Fuck but yeah, really roll the dice, take a few risks, and um take this to the next level. We're not gonna get out of here alive.

SPEAKER_00:

It's risky.

Robby:

So it's like let's uh let's roll the dice. Anything you'd like to add to that?

George:

How can people roll the dice? You know, if they're if they're in that space now. They want more. Maybe they don't even know it. Maybe they could be doing so much more, but they feel that, oh man, I'm doing heaps.

Robby:

I felt like that.

George:

Maybe they don't like they don't they feel that they've hit the ceiling with their own abilities and their own um restrictions, beliefs. Right? Oh, how could I how could I ever have more than one cafe? How could I'm a butcher? How else could I, how can I cut more meat? Like this is it's where I get my meat from. It's good quality meat, and this is how much I sell it for. Like, how much more could I do to make how will I ever make a million dollars as a butcher?

Robby:

Have three butcher stores.

George:

Yeah, like what do you need to do? And sometimes that's what it takes. Like, I think if you're there and you're it's like, okay, nothing's changing, it's the same thing, you're not doing bad, right, but you're not doing amazing, then sometimes it's a matter of you going out and seeking knowledge, either reading books or listening to this podcast, obviously, but seeking a mentor, seeking an advisor, someone that can give you, even if it's not the exact advice you need, at least it might spark the interest of you to look in a certain area or connect with a certain someone.

Robby:

It just takes one conversation, huh?

George:

Yeah, that's all it does. It's all it takes. Literally, one decision, and your whole life can change.

Robby:

Yeah, you can just get shown one perspective. You know, that whole thing about every book has a million dollars in it. Yep, and even if you don't like the book, that's gonna be a big push for me this year, too. More reading? Yeah. I feel like I didn't read enough.

George:

Yeah, I agree with that, actually.

Robby:

In 25.

George:

Like I always feel that, and it's funny, whenever I finish reading a book, I feel like, oh, that was sick. Like, I'm glad I learned that. Yeah, I think that's I'm glad I'm better at that. I'm better for having known those things. Now, what's the next thing I'm gonna read? And then it's like, oh, you need to leave it a month. Like, oh, yeah, okay, I'll read that next.

Robby:

Try to punch it out in the mornings or in the evenings. Yeah, make the habit, find that hour. Ten days. Uh ten days, ten pages.

George:

Ten pages over ten days.

Robby:

Ten pages over ten days, and um you'll read a book by the end of the year. Uh but yeah, that's that's um I'm looking forward to this year.

George:

Yeah, things will be different.

Robby:

I'm looking forward to see what it brings. Or to see what I bring to it.

George:

Bring new problems.

SPEAKER_00:

Bring bigger problems. Bigger problems, much bigger problems.

Robby:

Yeah. Oh, that's that's a hundred K fix. Don't talk to me. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm gonna I gotta deal with the bigger problems. That's gonna cost, you know what I mean, like that get to that point.

George:

There's levels to it, man. There's levels to it. Oh, there's definitely levels to it. I think um and you forget it though. You forget how what it was like comfort thing, dude. You fucking fall. Imagine when you were 16 years old. Like if you lost 250 bucks.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I would have flipped. You would just for the record, just for the record, I'd flip down.

George:

Just for the record. Just like$250. You know what I mean? The other day, one of my employees came to me, he's like, Oh, you know, I gotta do this, I've got to change this shower screen, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, he just kept talking. Like, I'm like, shh, I go, what's the solution? He goes, Oh, they want to charge us 250 bucks. Okay, so if they if we pay them$250, you stop talking to me. He's like, Yes. I go, fucking pay them$250 and get this thing done. Like, that's the easiest solution to this problem. But some people, like even for them, they're like, oh,$250, that's just annoying. You know, why do we have to pay it? It's like you've wasted more time on this than what it's what the solution is.

SPEAKER_01:

Different people at different levels.

George:

Yeah. Yeah. If you if you took a because your employees won't be at that level either.

Robby:

No, no, but if you took a like if you took a half a million dollar hit on a job, you'd be like, fuck.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Robby:

But then Tim Gurner would sit there, like, nah. What else? Yeah. Well, is that it for today? Fuck. Good day. Good day. What a day. That was a good day. Got off easy. Yeah. You know, and then you think, fuck, but then you think there's gotta heat. He would have had points in his life where you know he took hits. It's like your ability to take the pain and move forward, dude. And I'm gonna try and do that and just be as miserable as I can throughout it.

George:

But get to the other side, pumped. You know, that's uh that's a good point you bring up though. Because there has to be with that difficulty and that pain, you do have to man like learn to hand handle that too.

Robby:

Yeah, I think it's a muscle.

George:

Yeah, but if you like then take it home, take it to your family, take it to your friends when you're out, like it'll start to affect other aspects of your life too. You know, if you're if we went out, yeah, it will, because it's just but you need to start training yourself, as you said, it's a muscle where you go, no, cool, I've got to put this down. So, do you have days where you're just like just like today?

Robby:

Like, I just can't like uh I'm I've had uh fuck this day. You're actually and today you have that today, no, today's not uh only lost 500,000. Sorry, yeah. Uh Robbie Gunner. Um you get what I'm saying though? Like you have those days where you just think, man, like today, fuck and even though you know, like you know, like alright, we're gonna we're gonna be okay. I think uh do you know Cody Sanchez? Yes, yeah, the female Yes, yes, yes. She's just a female, is it?

George:

That's her claim to fame. She's the uh what are they? What's one of those? What is she? She's a what is that? She's a mogul or what's a female.

Robby:

Uh female. What is a woman? She's actually a weapon. Give her a fool. She is a fucking weapon. Yeah. The content she puts out, the stuff she teaches. I read a book. Uh, and she says I think she'd like her dad taught her that thing of uh if you're not there with your if you haven't sat there up one night with your head in your hands, thinking, what the fuck am I gonna do? You're not in the game. Do you know what I mean? And it's like until you've done that, you're not in the game. And I'm not saying that you should aim to do that. Don't don't make it a goal. Um but it's like play the game at that level where it's like that's that's this is I'm talking to myself here, but it's like that's that's let's take those leaps. Like I take them now. I'm in my 30s.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean?

Robby:

Let's go bankrupt now.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's go.

George:

Hey on the scale of going bankrupt to being like the worst thing in the world, right? It's not that bad.

SPEAKER_00:

It's not that bad. Yeah, it's not that bad.

George:

Yeah, I I'm not gonna walk past your office knowing you've gone bankrupt and be like, oh shit. Don't want to talk to that guy.

Robby:

Still talk to me. Thank luck.

George:

I'll get I'll get I'll talk to you through my PA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, can you email Robbie to change the alarm code?

Robby:

Don't think close the door when I'm look fast.

George:

Don't have to look at me anymore. Um do you know what I mean? Yeah, like it's gonna be, yeah, it would have been difficult, yeah. I'm sure it's like it's not gonna be that fun. It's not like yes, bankruptcy, tick.

Robby:

It's but you I feel like you'd come out of the other side so aggressive.

George:

Chip on your shoulder, yeah. You must show you. I'll fucking show you. Like fucking. I'll fucking show you. And what a story, huh? What a story, man. Yeah, and like the bounce back from all that, and it's like again, you see so many millionaires, so many billionaires that have gotten to where they are, and like, dude, I went back, I went broke three times. Have you seen Bill Ackman?

Robby:

Do you know who Bill Ackman is? Never heard of him? Oh he's like a hedge fund manager or some shit like that. I don't know. Some guy in New York. Um, but like billionaire, worth five billion or something. Only lost everything at five bill. Yeah, at five bills, lost it all, went for a divorce at the same time, like lost his whole life was fallen apart.

George:

Oh yes, I've heard of this guy.

Robby:

I think I've seen a clip on him. And then um he said that he's like it was the like he's like the only thing I had to tell him, like, what's the next like what's the next thing like at that point in his life? There's a the he's on um Lex Friedman's podcast, and I think he says something, and I've heard uh Hormose talk about the story as well, and he's like, like, what's the next thing I need to do right now? Like what's the yes, what's the next thing I just gotta focus on what's the thing that's gonna get me closer to where I need to go. Yeah, just do that one thing. Yeah, and he's just gone through this whole fucking thing.

George:

And it might just be get out of bed.

Robby:

Guess how much is worth now? How much? Nine billion. Yes, built it all back, yeah. Um and then donated the hundred grand to the guy that tackled the shooter in Sydney. Oh, did he really? Yeah, how cool. Did it go fund me for him?

George:

Yeah, I think I've heard it's like over a million, over a million dollars at the moment.

Robby:

Yeah, shout out to uh to Bundai and you know everything that's um that's happening.

George:

Well, let's hope we get none of none of that in 26.

Robby:

Fucking or or 27 or 28 or 29, 30, fucking 40, 50, and everyone.

George:

Let's not just leave it to 26, have a good year, and then all the other years are fucked after that.

Robby:

Um yeah.

George:

But yeah, you know, went through that whole fucking period, and and it's like, okay, unless this kills you, yeah, and and like back on what you just said with Bondo now that you brought it up, it's like there's people there that are never gonna get that shot, you know, and like no disrespect here, but I'm just saying, like, think about that. How quickly your life can change and how much of an opportunity you have, because I guarantee being alive, or say some of the people that survived, maybe they've got injuries that they're gonna hold for the rest of their life and then unable to walk. Right? And you can get up and you can walk, what a life. And yet you take it for granted. You take everything you could for granted, like every breath you take, you take it for granted. Did you wake up this morning and say, like how good I can breathe unassisted? Of course you didn't. Because you do it every single day and you end up taking these small little things that for for granted that really are so critical to you even being here. It's the the human condition, huh? It is the human condition. So this is where back to similar with you know, fighting the the inner bitch every single day of your life, there's also a level of going uh of practicing gratitude too, and going, you know what, this like I haven't practiced gratitude for a few years. I I know you're off it, but I still think it's there is there's power in it from the perspective of even if you use it from the perspective of like I'm still here, man. Like I'm not sick, I'm not dying, no one else around me is dying. We're good. Like, big deal, man, that you've lost this money, big deal that you've lost that friend or that relationship or whatever it is. You're still here, you can still contribute, you can still have an impact and a meaningful life.

Robby:

That's true. Heading up the year ahead to look forward to.

George:

Yeah, and you know what? Given that we're at the very start of the year, do you know what the best thing you could possibly do to kick your year off? What's that? Just subscribe to this podcast. Now, whether it's on YouTube, following us on socials, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

Robby:

Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, I was gonna say Chat GPT Podcasts, yep, everything, all of them, every single one, every single one of them.

George:

Go and subscribe to each and every one of them. Soon you'll probably just be able to get your AI bot to do it for you. Just say, hey, chat, go and subscribe to everything that Robbie and George do. Keep me in the loop because conversations like this are only going to get better in 26. We're gonna bring a lot more people on and have a lot more guests on our podcast this year. Yep. We're making that a target to do, and it's going to, as a consequence, bring a lot more diverse conversations, you know, conversations we probably wouldn't have just the two of us.

Robby:

I agree.

George:

You know, and even interviewing people that yeah, different perspectives, people that don't agree with our point of view.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, different thoughts, different perspectives. Happy to have those conversations, different people, yeah.

George:

You know, the ability to be able to be able to have a conversation with someone that you don't agree with. I think it's powerful.

Robby:

Yeah, it's insightful.

George:

Yeah, you don't have to always agree with everything, but I think if you can see merit and logic and their point of view, it'll either reinforce your beliefs or it may even change your beliefs. You will be better for it. I think you'll be better for it, yes.

Robby:

Yeah, and we'll be better for it. And you'll be better if you have clicked that subscribe button.

George:

That's it.

Robby:

All right, guys, thanks for listening. Episode one, 2026, 51 to go. We'll see you next week.

George:

Thanks, guys. Bye.

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George Passas

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Robby Choucair

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