Why You Need More Urgency

Time is moving faster than it has any right to, and that speed exposes a brutal truth: you can hit the goals you once dreamed about and still feel unsettled. We talk about that gap between achievement and contentment, why the “I’ll be happy when…” plan keeps failing, and how comfort quietly turns years into a blur. If you’ve ever looked up and thought, how has it already been two years, you’ll feel this one.

From there, we zoom out and back in, using everything from elite UFC event production to everyday business decisions as a lens for standards, systems, and personal responsibility. George breaks down a real fork-in-the-road moment: a potential life-changing construction project that brings up fear of failure, fear of loss, and the temptation to stay safe. We pull apart what it takes to step up in entrepreneurship without pretending it’s easy, and why the decision to act matters more than the perfect plan.

Then we go personal: health habits that actually stick, walking as a “win” that builds momentum, and the tension between freedom and commitment when you think about kids and family. We debate what parenting changes in you, what you sacrifice, and what you gain, including a haunting question from the movie Arrival that reframes love and risk. If you want a mindset reset with practical takeaways on fitness, comfort zones, time management, and building a meaningful life, hit play, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people find the show.

Transcript

What Would You Change About You

Robby 0:00

I got a question for you, John. Fire away. If you could change something about yourself besides the obvious, what would you change?

George 0:14

Hard hitting questions first up. Jesus. I'm asking how my day was. Besides the obvious stuff, what would you change? If I could change something about myself. I So if I could go back say 20 years. Is that what we're sort of along the lines of what you're getting at? I don't know. I don't know. Look, I would I would um I would put more of a focus on investments back then.

Robby 0:47

Nah, nah, not decisions.

George 0:49

Not decisions, myself as a person, like what character traits, like that sort of thing.

Robby 0:53

Just you in general, like George Pass. Oh, okay.

George 0:55

So if you could change something about yourself, besides the obvious, what would you change?

Robby 1:00

I don't know.

George 1:00

There's nothing that really sticks out at me that I'd want to change about myself.

Robby 1:04

That's good.

George 1:05

Yeah, nothing that I would like. I'm thinking of like, well, what would I change? What would need to change? Because change for the better, obviously. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's not like you're exactly right. So take away a leg. Yeah, that's it. I I feel that I'm working towards all the positive changes in my life. That's what you want. No, that's right. I think that's all you can ask. Now, am I where I want to be? No. No, but I I think um But I'm I I feel that every day I wake up, I have a lot of challenges in my life, I have a lot of things going on, and I'm like, well, no, no, today's another good day because

Goals Met But Still Not Content

George 1:40

I've taken a step in the right direction.

Robby 1:41

Yeah, and also there are times where and and we'll dive into this, but like I think there's times where you would have loved to be where you are right now.

George 1:54

Yeah, I'm sure there's definitely times.

Robby 1:56

I remember I remember thinking to myself. Dude, yeah, I remember thinking to myself, I would love to just be able to replace my income outside of my job. Like I'd love to just go and do something else and just just not even not even earn what I'm earning, just be able to cut cover my cost of living. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like I I wasn't even interested in making as much as my salary. I was just like, as like if I could just cover my cost of living, man, I'd be fucking wrapped. And it's like you pass that and beyond, and then you're still not. And it's like, okay, that's not the problem.

George 2:35

Yeah, that's right. Because you said that Moses says it. Yeah, he says you've achieved things that you said would make you happy. All right. And it's like, oh, well, you're right, but then why aren't you happy right now? Or why aren't you content? Because you said once you achieve these things, yeah, what a goal, what an amazing achievement. But hey, look at where you are and what you're doing still. The um what what prompted that question out of curiosity, the one you just asked me? What would I change about myself?

Robby 2:58

Someone told me not. Oh, really?

George 3:00

Ah, there you go.

Robby 3:01

The question, but so there's an element of truth to the question, but the the joke in the question is also supposed to be like, besides the obvious, yeah.

George 3:07

Like, well, it's the obvious thing. Yeah, yeah. You're saying I need to uh fucking get a nose job or something. It's like I was gonna ask that.

Robby 3:15

Yeah, so besides the obvious. I asked you like three times. Yeah, you did. Um but uh just on that note, George, as

UFC Production And Big Show Energy

Robby 3:22

well. Uh I uh recently, well, I say recently, on Monday that just passed, so a week ago from when this will air, uh I watched the UFC at the White House. Yeah. And I know you're a super avid.

George 3:42

God bless America, dude.

Robby 3:44

Let me tell you, no one puts on a show. No, it's no one comes fucking close. Hey, what like I couldn't I was watching it and I was like, this is first of all, flawless. Like not a single thing went wrong. Like nothing, like apart from like a small portion where the sound didn't sound the same, and it's like they were just working it out at this at the start because they hadn't had a whole crowd there. Yeah, apart from that, nothing went wrong. I just like you know what? I get it, money helps, and I think they spent 50 mil or something on the event, but that is elite production, yeah.

George 4:22

We went to our uh home and away games when we're in the state, it's uh in Vegas, and man, just that was phenomenal. And I'm just looking at everything they were doing, they just go bigger and better and bolder than anyone else when it comes to the entertainment space. I still don't think anyone does it better than them.

Robby 4:40

Yeah, we went to the hockey that was sick. That was so cool. I was so pumped. Yeah, I didn't even know who was playing.

George 4:46

Yeah, uh till now. No, no, it's the uh what's it called? Yeah, those guys, yeah. The um the Vikings, the Vikings, not the Vikings, yeah. The yes, them. Is it fuck? I've got a hat. I've literally got a hat at home.

Robby 4:58

That's what I'm saying. You don't even know who's playing. Oh man, it's that's I do know that's the worst part.

George 5:03

What a it's the Vikings. No, it's not the Vegas, it's not Vikings, but the Vegas the Knights, it's the Golden Knights, that's who it is. 100%, I'm telling you. Are you sure? Fucking gonna Google it now.

Robby 5:16

The Las Vegas Golden Knights. Yeah, you're right, yeah. 100% you're right. I've got the same hat.

George 5:23

Yeah, it was the Golden Knights, Vegas Golden, yeah, Golden Knights. Okay, so that was cool. That was so entertaining. Who are they missing? Um, Atlanta Giants. They're missing Boston Boston, no idea.

Robby 5:35

The Boston, some weird animal, broncos, something weird. Yeah, today.

George 5:40

Remember, all our American viewers are gonna roast us. I'm sorry. Sorry, apologise. Sorry, Australian, and hey, fuck you actually. That's what. Because Australia beat Turkey, and by the time this airs, you're gonna hear that Australia beat the USA in the World Cup. This will I hope they do. This will eight. I hope they do. This will it's gonna be fantastic. Well, you're either gonna go mild. There's so much smack being talked about the Aussies in the World Cup, saying that they're useful, that they're just no names, they're shit, they're this, they're that. They knocked off Turkey, who were favourite to win the group. Yeah, to take that Turks. Yeah, that's it. Uh actually, do you know they want to be called Turkey now? Did you hear that? No, what do you mean? Yeah, so they want to be called Turkey. All right, so because that's more in line with from the English translation of Turkey, all right. Well, it's called well in Greeks Greece calls them Turkia, right? Which I imagine Turkish when they're saying it in their mother tongue is the same. And yeah, that's what they want to be called in the English tongue because it's more in line with who they are as a c as a country, not with the animal.

Robby 6:49

Yeah, look, you know what? That's not a bad idea.

George 6:51

I don't think so either. I don't think so either. I was listening to what you described. I noticed everyone was saying that I was listening to S E N the other day and Turkey. Yeah, they were talking about the World Cup and they were they'll kept saying Turkey, but they were saying it like that, like in a real Aussie way. I'm like, that just sounds weird, guys. Why the fuck are you saying that? And then someone got online, uh someone got on the mic and actually explained it, as I just did.

Robby 7:12

There you go. There you go. You learn something new to anything from this podcast to date. Yeah, you just learnt uh you just learned something there.

George 7:19

That's what it is. So anyway, um, as long as the the states put on a a great show at the World Cup, we'll be happy. They've got a lot happening, dude. Heaps. They're like they're going to wars, World Cup, UFC at the White House, all backing around, all at the same time. Sunday.

Robby 7:39

That's wild. Yeah. That is wild. Operating at another Donald Trump must be um he must be cooking. There's no way he's he's operating okay. Like he must be he fell asleep at the at the NBA finals. Like he's old, man. He's old. I fall asleep just at when I get home. Yeah, I get it. I understand. But like also go to bed.

George 8:02

Yeah, I do.

unknown 8:03

Yeah, yeah.

Robby 8:04

I go to bed early. He doesn't like for him. Like, go to bed, bro. Like, what are you doing? Like, why are you staying up till midnight? You're 80 years old now.

George 8:11

Um, so yeah, on that, massive, they're playing a bigger game. They're just there's so many levels to so many things in your world, in your life, in everywhere. And that's just one element of it. Like, we put on events. Imagine, like, it's like fuck, we we had an event in Sydney last month, yeah, and it's like the mics weren't working properly, and we're like, what the fuck? Like, losing our mind, and we spent 1500 bucks on venue hire.

Robby 8:35

I was having this conversation with someone, and I was like, they're like, What do you think? This is funny because they're like, What do you think of the UFC? And I thought, and my response was, man, they didn't have a single blunder on the event. He goes, You saw everyone get knocked out, all these fighters, everything. He goes, And you you're focusing on there was no errors in the event. How funny where our attention is, and I was like, Yeah, I guess I just know what it's like. Like, we have a hundred-person event, and there's 400 things that go wrong, and you're trying not to like everybody.

George 9:04

Yeah, while you're on stage, you know what I mean?

Robby 9:05

There's a whole bunch of stuff happening, and you're trying to and it's like this appeared flawless. Yeah, and I thought that was amazing.

George 9:12

And how and how much would people have hung it on someone if like you know, the lights went out, or that's what one of the mics just stopped working as Dana was there talking about how good America is, and then it's like and then it just goes, Yeah, and then I can't do it, and then it's like but then I can hear a bit like everyone would go, oh what a what a disaster, you know.

Robby 9:32

That's what I'm taking, or a light type or a light flickers, or you know, some someone something happened, someone fall, like something, you know, that thing they built the thing on the grass, dude. Yeah, like yeah, like there was so much that could have gone wrong, and it's like nothing went wrong that we saw. That we saw and I thought um I thought that was phenomenal, but I've also been looking forward to this card since they announced it. Really? Was it that good of a card? The card. Yeah, the card was off its head, dude. Was it okay?

George 10:04

Yeah, I didn't I didn't I didn't honestly didn't follow it too much.

Robby 10:07

Seven fights, not one went the distance. Oh, right. Every single one was a knockout. Yeah, right. This is like a great card. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great card. Any UFC I will debate you. Any UFC fans, I will that was a great card. Yeah, you know what I mean? I think there was ridiculous expectations set on the card initially. Yep. And then when the card got released, people were like, oh, what's USB? It's like it's a good card. Great card. Good fights, everyone performed. Um, yeah, it's cool. Recommend watching. Like even if you're just like watching fights, like watch it, or some serious fights. Yeah. Um but I remember thinking when they first announced it, um, that you know, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, and then it's like, now it's gone. Like it was so far away at one point, yeah, and now it's gone. And now I was like, I was looking at the date today and I was saying to you just before we add, I almost wrote June 2025

Time Flying And Health Slipping

Robby 11:10

today. You know, and and I'm not I I know it's 2026, like you know what I mean. I'm well aware, but I I just think time is moving so damn dude, it's like we're we're going into a new financial financial like FY27. Like time is just fucking not slowing down for no one, dude. And I I feel like I have never felt it go quicker in my whole life. And I feel like like every time I look up, it's like, oh, six months gone. And you know, one of my one of my goals that I'd set at the start of the year was to get my health in order, and I've I've fucking completely fallen off, and I'm like, all right, cool, like I need to do this, man. Like it's like enough. So I get on the scale, and I'm like, all right, cool. This is what we're gonna do. Here's the plan, blah blah blah. And I've done this many times, and every time I fall off, I just gotta get back on, just get back on, dude. Like, it's gonna work, I'm not gonna stop.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah, yeah.

Robby 12:13

And I remember thinking to myself, it's okay. Like you dude, you were 75 not that long ago. 75 not that long ago, remember? 75 hard, you did 75 hard, you you hit 75 kilos, two separate numbers, but yeah, you hit 75 kilos when you did that challenge. Um, that wasn't that long ago, that wasn't that long ago, you know. You did the carnival diet, should you do the carnival diet again? And I was like, fuck, when was that? When was that? And then I realized that was that was over two years ago now. And then it's like, holy fuck, like two years? Like, well man, yeah. I feel like I'm doing the same thing now, like not the health thing. I feel like I'm doing the same stuff I was doing life, same life thing. I've just moved houses, yeah. That's the only thing that's changed. Yeah, it's like I I'm just working the same and doing everything the same, and just doing the same stuff, and it's like two fucking years, dude. Like, hey, at best, yeah, at best, you get that if that's a time span you're looking at, you get 50 of those at best, probably more like 35, 40. And it's like that was one of them gone. Yeah, and I feel like I'm doing the exact same thing.

George 13:29

And I reckon that a lot of people would feel like that. I do, and I admittedly feel the same way. I admittedly feel the same way. I've been going through. I'm just I always get frustrated when it comes to stuff like this, when I'm thinking like this, you know. I'm just like, oh, it's always the comparison is the thief of uh all joy. But it's not it's not it's not about comparison. Well, it's it's also like but all doing the same thing every every single time, every single, every single year. I think there has to be that break point, right? And you've kind of maybe hit that when you said with your weight, with what's happening with uh business and life and work and all that sort of shit. And it does get to that point where you go, all right, something's gonna change, something's gotta snap. And then I think in those moments, that's when you achieve it. I I reckon there's moments throughout the times where things happen. I don't think the whole year's gonna be extraordinary or that whole period is gonna be extraordinary and massive growth and massive change and massive challenges and massive everything you want. But I think there's periods where you go, okay, cool. At that moment I made that decision and this led to that. So for example,

A Risky Project And Fear Talk

George 14:38

I remember earlier in the year, I was looking, uh, I was looking at the books. I'm like, okay, I need a project to start around now. Another one. We need to secure another project. And I'm working on it, and I started to make calls. I called past clients, I called new clients, I called a whole range of people. And I hit the phones for about a solid week, week and a half, and it got me opportunities. I went and saw this person, I went and saw that person, went and did whatever it might be. And now we're in the final days, weeks of signing up a project, which is perfect timing because I wanted it to start sort of next financial year. And I was thinking back to it, I was like, you know, had I just gone through and done everything I was doing, like I always do, busy, busy, busy, come in, clock in, clock out, do what you got to do, that never would have happened. You know, that project never would have come up. And then again, it's like I another one's come up again, all from a phone call, right? From one phone call. I was, it was my very first client ever. And he, I called him up. I was driving past a site in Richmond, and I was, I thought, I'm gonna give him a buzz and say good day, first of all, because I saw the site and it just reminded me of him. Said hello, how are you? What's going on? He's like, hey, great to see you, blah, blah, blah. He goes, hey, come, I'm busy, I'm in a meeting, but come and see me next week, we'll have a chat. Went down there, had a chat with him, saw his operations, like gentleman, lovely guy. And now we're looking at a project, that one that I drove past, it's been sitting on a shelf, which he offered me many years ago. And he's offered it again and said, Listen, I want you to build it. You're the only person I trust. I want you to look at it. This is where the number is that I want it to be. Where does it sit? So on and so forth. This will be, if I take it on board, the biggest project I've ever built myself. Ever. And it's huge. We're talking 10, like close to I think it'll be a $25 million project. Massive, like life-changing project, assuming all goes either way, it's either gonna go really well or really bad. It's gonna change my life. So life-changing project. And um, you know, at the time when he offered it to me last year, or late the year before, five times going. Yeah, exactly. But exactly right. He came and saw me, he drove up and saw me at my one of my apartment projects that we're building. And he's like, here's the job. And I said, Look, mate, thank you, but I'm out. I I don't want to get into that space. I don't want to do this type of job. You know, we're focused on this, we're focused on that. And now it's come back full circle again. And I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay, give me the reasons why you wouldn't do this. You're saying that to yourself. To myself. So give me the reasons why I wouldn't do this. And like every excuse I come up with, I just it wasn't justified to myself. I'm like, no, that's not a good enough reason not to do this. That's not a good enough reason not to do this. And it's now led me down the path of, well, fuck it, let's do it. So if I didn't do it and said, look, mate, I thank you so much again. I'm gonna pass. This isn't for me. Get someone else to do it. What's the next 12 months gonna look like? You know, what's the next two years gonna look like? Is it gonna be the same shit that I'm doing now? Like, I'm keep saying to myself, like, I want, I want the most out of my business. I want the most out of everything I'm doing. Well, if you fucking want it, play that. Like practice what you preach. So this is where now I'm actually not can I'm convincing myself, but I'm I'm talking to myself and saying, hey, wake the fuck up. This is what you asked for. Everything in this world that you've asked for that you want the fucking life, the business, everything. It's right here, and you're fucking saying no. So why exactly? I think, and that's what I was asking. So, why was I saying that? And I reckon, in all honesty, it comes down to not ability. I reckon it comes down to fear in the sense of like, what if it doesn't work out? What if I go broke? What if I make a mistake? What if, you know, it's all the negative things that come into play. And you know what is easy for easier for me to do? It's like, no, no, just let someone else do that. I'm gonna put say here, where it's nice and safe. I'm gonna build my one to five to six to seven million dollar homes, like that's it. I'm happy there. I'll turn over, you know, 10, 12, 15, 20 million dollars a year, you know, I'm happy to sit in that space. I can do that. That's comfortable for me. But how do I make sure that the next 12 months is the best 12 months? And are there are there other people out there delivering projects like this? Of course, of course. And much bigger. So then why not us? Why can't we do that? I've got the skill set, I've got the uh resources, I've got the people. Like, why not do it? And I think that's what the turning point was for me just recently, by the way, like two weeks ago, you know, just recently there was that turning point and that click in me saying, Well, fuck it, man. I don't want to. I keep complaining that, you know, oh, two years has gone by and I feel like nothing's changed. Well, you have to change it. No one else, I'm not gonna come in and change your life. I'm not gonna come in and say, hey, let's go for a jog. First of all, fucking hate jogging. But second of all, I'm not gonna do that to you just to help you get better. Not because I don't care, but it just it wouldn't come in my train of thought. It was never gonna come in. I'm not gonna walk past your office in the morning and say, Oh, you know what? I reckon Robbie needs to start getting in shape. I'm gonna start pushing him into do that a bit more.

Robby 19:52

I can't believe you haven't done that. I know. Um I know. I will yeah, I I need it right in front of me.

George 19:57

So now that you've told me.

Robby 19:58

What's the um so so what's the are you gonna say yes?

George 20:04

Yeah, I'm at the moment I'm doing the feasibility on it. So I need him to say yes at this point in time, as in to agree to the fix. Yeah, no, no, but you've you've chosen. I've chosen to put my hat in the ring now. Yeah. In the sense of, look, he's told me blatantly, he goes, Look, I want you to do it. He goes, because I've he actually said a really nice compliment. He goes, You're the only builder I've ever worked with that I've never had any issues with during the build, got along with really well, and uh no issues post-construction. I said, mate, thank you. You know, that's that means a lot to say that. And I'm like, why wouldn't I do it? And I all the reasons I kept coming up, he's he's probably one of the only people I would build a project like this for as well, because of the relationship we have and the type of gentleman that he is. But again, looking at it, if I want things to be different in my life, it has to be me. If I want to have more happiness, have more freedom, have more health, have more success, you've got to just give it a crack. And I think for yourself, as you said, you might have been standing in front of the mirror, you might have been eating a pizza, whatever it was. You're like, fuck, fuck this. I have to do something about it. And I think that comes in every person's life. And that's they kind of call it like the midlife crisis. You know, that's the whole premise behind it, where people look at their life in their you know, 30s and 40s, some 50s, and that's when they go by the Harley, that's when they go on the holiday, that's when they do that because, like, oh, what have I done with the last fucking 20 years of my life? Now, even if you're in your 20s, think like that. Now, think like that. That's such such powerful thinking. Go, fuck, I'm 28. Shit. I remember when I was 21 and I'm still partying with the boys or the girls or whatever I'm doing every weekend. I need to get my shit together. I want to go be going on holidays or traveling or Ferraris or work or whatever it is, businesses. Get your shit together from then. Make your life extraordinary, but it's always up to you because it's so easy to play in the comfort zone. That's where and honestly, dude, that's why you're the shape that you are because you can or the the health level that You're right. What shape am I? You're round. Come on, man. Come on, bro.

Robby 22:05

Still holding it together.

George 22:06

It's just the jacket's puffy. It's not a puffy jacket. I thought you um you got you look like you've got big arms. I reckon you could bench a lot.

Robby 22:16

I can. I reckon you could bench more than and that's what's allowed me to get away with it for someone. Yeah, exactly. I'm strong. Yeah.

George 22:23

And you're not fat. I'll batter you. You're you're it's not a level of being, you're not unhealthy. I don't look at you and go, hey, this guy's if you were, I'd say, hey, you're 100 kilos. Like sharpen the fuck up.

Robby 22:34

But imagine that. I would love you know the only reason I'd love to eat 100 kilos. To say you'd have.

George 22:44

You know what I mean? Like, wouldn't that be cool? But it'd also be cool to say you can bench a hundred kilos. Yeah.

unknown 22:49

Yeah.

George 22:49

It'd also be cool. And look, coming back onto what you were just going through, I was the exact same thing with my health. So I've been training for quite some time with PT. And I've got some great results, feeling a lot better, fitting into clothes heaps better, but still not the exact body shape or fat percentage or physique, anything that I want to be. And it only clicked with me. Like I went to the gym on Sunday, I went again yesterday. I won't go today. Today's my rest day. But I will go tomorrow and so on and so forth. And I'm going to step it up because

Comfort Zone Versus A Bigger Life

George 23:20

I'm like, well, I noticed over the last probably three weeks, ever since we went away to the Builder Summit, I have just not been eating as strictly as I was. And I let the little couple of little bad habits come in, had pizza one night, have whatever. And it's like I went from being about 81, high 81s, to 83, 2. So I was about a kilo, kilo and a half difference in that time period. But like, well, imagine if I kept with it and I went the other way and it was high 70s.

unknown 23:48

Right?

George 23:48

But I didn't. I got complacent. I got comfortable. Oh, come on, man, you've you've dropped a lot of weight. You know, you've been training hard, you've been working hard. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You know, we went to Meat and Wine Co. as a tradition. Whenever we go into state, yeah, get the dessert. Come on, get the dessert. Of course. What's the matter with you?

Robby 24:05

Is if we're not gonna get dessert. Get the entrees. Yeah. So man, I'm hungry. Oh, me too. Um, yeah, but like it's more like so the the goal is one thing, you know, and I would dare say most people don't hit most of their goals. Do you reckon it's the goal?

George 24:21

I think there's a level of the challenge. Yeah, I think that there has to be that sense of adventure in what you're doing. Do you know what I mean? Like, what the fuck? Why just keep like if someone told me right now, hey George, you're gonna be all right, you're gonna make good money, but this is what it looks like. The next 10 years is gonna be like the last. All right, because I've been doing business now for 10 years, and they they they say to me, it's crystal ball here, say, look, if you change nothing as you are right now, the next 10 years you'll be cool, but it's gonna be the same. I'll tap out now.

Robby 24:53

Yeah, but so that that comes down to what you value.

George 24:56

Yeah. You know what I mean?

Robby 24:57

For some people, they'll sit there, thank God.

George 25:00

Yeah, that's right. Thank God. That's right, okay. So I'm gonna be okay. Yeah, exactly. But that's the comfort zone, isn't it? And it's like they don't. It was funny. I was listening to a video and they did a survey, and they're like, you know, who are the most content at the happiest people in the world? Like what socioeconomic person, the the age, whatever it is, like who are the happiest people? And they tend to say that looking at everything and everyone, generally the most happiest people are the ones that are middle class. Both parents, both people work, they have their holidays, they have their kids, they love each other, they grow old and they die. They don't ever look and go, oh wow, I can't believe I went to that holiday. We went to the Maldives and we got flown by the chopper and went on the super yacht and did all those sorts of things. And obviously, not the extra other extreme being poverty. Um, but those people tend to be the happiest. Why? And it's well, exactly right. Why? What is it? What's that? What's the goal? Is it happiness? Some people it's not. Some people are happy not to be happy, you know. It's not that I don't have to walk around and being happy every single day. I want to go through and achieve, I want to do this, I want to have that sense of adventure and danger. And I think that's what, for me, that's what I want in my life. I want that sense of adventure or that sense of challenge. And, you know, there's so many aspects and times in my life where I could have walked away or I could have taken an easier route, but I haven't. I'm still here, I'm still pushing event space. Like I three years ago, we never thought it would be where it is today. Never. Never. If someone said to me, hey, you're gonna be touring the fucking country doing this four times a year, plus all the other shit that you're doing, making this much money, I'd be like, get fucked. I'm not gonna do that. I'm a builder. Why would I ever step into that podcast? All right, we're here, we're talking, we do this every single fucking week. I never in a million years, honestly, hand on heart, thought I would ever do this. I and I I mentioned it, I'd put it out there and said, Oh, you know, I'd like to do a podcast. I never thought I'd do it with someone. I thought I might do a podcast myself, and I guarantee you, if I did this by myself, it would have stopped. It would have stopped. Yeah, I agree. Without a doubt. I don't know how you feel about it, but I would have stopped 100%. I would have stopped. It's hard. And you know how many people like people will give you shit along the way as well. Like, people aren't going to be in line with your dreams. Like, okay, I was speaking to my old man the other day about this job, and he's like, fuck, 20, 26 million dollars, that's a big job. Like already insinuating, hey, do you want to take that on? That's a lot of stress, that's a lot of work, that's a lot of this. Trying to protect me, stay here where it's comfortable, where it's safe with me, where you don't have to go out there and stress yourself. Uh, you'll get a lot of criticism along the way, and that could be some other people. Like, that's what some people might think of too. They go, Well, I'm not gonna do this because I'm gonna get criticized heavily by doing so.

Robby 27:45

Yeah, but see, I think it's a challenge against time. Because, like, okay, if you don't do this now, when do you end up?

George 27:53

Yeah, exactly. Do you want to do it when you're gonna hurts a lot? Like, what's what's what are you waiting for? And that's my fitness goals around that perspective too. It's like, well, you know, I could again very easily, hey, I'm 40 now, man. Like, fuck. 40, I got the wife, got the kids. What do I need to work out for? I'm set. You know, I've got the business, I can just sit here and just be unhealthy. No, fuck that. Fuck that. Go get the six pack, go have the best fucking body and strength and health that you can possibly get at 40. There's no reason. Are there are there people that are amazingly healthy in the best shape of their lives at 40? Of course, there is. So why can't you? Why have you bought into the no no? I'm not gonna do that, I'm not gonna stress myself. So yes, I think you're 100% correct.

Robby 28:34

Yeah, and I just you know, I'm uh I turn 35. Yeah.

George 28:41

Closer to 40.

Robby 28:42

I look at I look at time and I just think, fuck, like time is fucking going, huh?

George 28:50

It's funny because I look at that and go, fuck, I'd love to be 35.

Robby 28:53

Hey, don't you turn it 42? You already turned?

George 28:56

No, no, in July. Uh it's like fucking three weeks away.

Robby 29:00

Um Yeah, it's just like hey, like this is all this is all passing by. Like you know. Uh maybe and maybe you can see like you look at your parents now and you're like, like oh like you're getting like I can see age is it's happening to everyone, like to everyone around you. Like you look at yourself now, you said they're like, hey, like fuck, mid-30s, huh? Like that's what and you you look at your parents and you start to notice they get older. I'm sure you look at your kids, yeah, and you start to think, fuck.

George 29:32

Like I copped that a few years ago, and even more so now. It's partly why I'll get into that in a second, but do you look at your parents or your mum and say, you know, do you in her in your mind is she younger than what she is now? Yes, yeah, same here. Yeah, same. I think I think of my parents as like 40. You know, like I think of them as when I was a kid, that's how old they are in my mind. They're they're 40 to and that was old. I was old as fuck.

Robby 29:59

Yeah, 40s

Parents Aging And Kids Growing Up

Robby 30:00

old.

George 30:00

Yeah, it's like it's no good. And it's um, you know what I loved a couple weeks ago doing the podcast with my dad? I just loved that we had that moment doing the podcast together. Yeah, that's because I never would have thought that that would ever happen ever in my life. Yeah, like but how cool is it gonna be that one day we have shared that moment? And it's and you'll come back once the robots are here and he can say, I told you, I fucking told you so. Yeah, fucking told you. It was great to have that connection live on TV, on air. Yeah, and now it lives forever. Lives forever.

Robby 30:34

Yeah, it's online, it's always there in the airport.

George 30:36

Anyone can look at it, my kids, my children's children, like they can see that interaction. Hey man, I'm gonna do a shout-out. Can I give a shout out? Yeah, my cousin in Greece, his name. Do you want to give him a drum roll? It's George George Passes. No, swear to God, my first cousin. He messaged me the other day, George. If you're listening, this one's for you. Shout out to George. Shout out to George in Lesbos. You're just making me say Skalokori. Yeah, that's right. That's right. His name's Joshua. You're gonna clip it.

Robby 31:01

You're gonna clip it?

George 31:02

You'd be like, no, but he's saying he listens to every episode from Greece, from a little village, Skalokori in Lesbos. He listens to it every fucking week. So shout out to George, thanks for George. All our listeners in Greece listening to this right now. But yeah, my dad went there a couple weeks ago, he left, and he was saying to everyone in the village always listens and watch. He goes, half of them don't understand, so we've got to get that whole Mr. Beast thing that translates to Greece to Greek, we can do it so they can understand it. We can do it, but um that's gonna be weird, but we can do it. But yeah, back to what I was saying. Like, great that I could share that moment with him there. And you mentioned now the kids. I there's a part of me that wants to have more kids, all right, because I miss that toddler phase, you know, when you're open. How old are your kids now? So nine and eleven turning 12. So the my my son's turning 12 in July. And it's like I'll open the door when I come home. No one's running down the hallway anymore. No, they don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. They're gaming, they're in the zone, you know, they're eating dinner, and it's like no one comes down and does that. And my daughter, funny enough, did that I don't know, four weeks ago, let's say. And she saw it. It's like a one-off. It was a one-off. Like I opened the door and she happened to be in the hallway when I opened the door, and she's like, Daddy, and she comes home, comes over and gives me a hug. I'm like, that's a great thing. I've actually got a video on my phone of when they were both young. Like, I could talk. Yeah, it was fucking the greatest thing ever, you know. And I had a realization that fuck these, they're and I'm thankful that I realized it early enough when they were young enough, that selfishly I needed to make the most of every single one of those moments when they were young because they're gonna get old and they're not gonna do that one day. So you knew that early on. I I realized that when my son was about five years old, five, six years old. And my fuck, he's growing up, and so is my daughter very soon. And they're not gonna be, they're gonna both be at that age where they're not gonna be running to me when I open up the door. And I wanted to make the most of it. And then there's part of me now thinking, fuck, I would love to have another kid. I'd love to have a little toddler that I'd come home and just hug and kiss and just play with all the time. And it's uh it's funny how often people take things like that for granted. And I understand that the charge most of the time for the man of the family because he has to work and he's got to sacrifice that time with them to give them the life that they need and they deserve. That is a sacrifice. But when you are home, when you are with them, being present is really powerful and really important because again, one day you'll be on your deathbed and you're gonna be like, fuck, let me check that email. Let me just clear my inbox. You're gonna be like, I wish I spent more time with my kids, I wish we had spent more time with my family. I've seen it, a lot of people have that regret. Um, but then again, this is the whole sense of adventure. Sorry if I'm rambling, but we're going, I'm going to Singapore soon. We were going to go to Greece and I was going to can't, but the flights got cancelled. We were going to cancel the whole trip and not do anything. But then I'm like, no, no, fuck it. Let's go. Let's go do something and create memories and have that time because I'm not going to look back at this and go, oh, I'm so glad I didn't go overseas and got to stay at work for an extra two weeks, you know, and and keep working on tenders and invoicing and fucking this and that and HR issues and whatever it is. You know, so we're like, no, no, let's go because our kids, they're still at that age where they want to do these things with us. So we're making the most of those opportunities and going out there. Because I don't want to get to the end of this year, get to the end of next year, get to the end of the year after that, and be like, man, it's still insane space.

Robby 34:32

Now they don't want to do it.

George 34:33

No, no, they don't. But it this is this is just every aspect of your life, you can look at it like that. This podcast. Yeah, it's wild. Would you be? I think I would be somewhat disappointed if the conversations were exactly the same in two years' time. I'd be somewhat disappointed if this was we're just going through the motions that you know, if we don't have the audience of XYZ by that stage. Do you know what I mean? I would be there'd be a level of like, well, what's the point? Why do we keep doing this day in, day out? I can talk to you for an hour just by just for going by going for a coffee. Yeah, why do I need to sit there and do that?

Robby 35:11

Dude, I'm trying to find a video for you now. You just reminded me of something. And I can't find it right now.

George 35:16

But If you want to find it, I can talk a bit.

Robby 35:18

I will find it for you. And you gotta remind me though. Yeah. Because I think this is something you're gonna want to fuck. I got no idea what it is, but it's something you're gonna want to hold on to. So I didn't know this, and I'm gonna fuck it. If we're shouting people out overseas, I'm gonna show that overseas. Um on your 40th birthday, there's a video that I hadn't seen until like two weeks ago.

George 35:42

Yeah, right. So the one that you made? I didn't make anything. No, as in the you know when Nicole came in and you guys were doing a video together.

Robby 35:49

That got that screened. Yeah, okay. So you know when that screened on the big screen? Yeah, there's a video of your reaction. I didn't know, I don't know if you knew you were being taped. I didn't know right, right. Yeah, and there's a video of the video playing and a video of you watching it. And I think it's really cool. Yeah, I only saw it. And I messed it again. I was like, hey, what I I I never saw this video, dude. How funny! Yeah, it's like a chopped thing, like you know, you say someone's watching, and then the video that's playing, yeah, it's sick.

George 36:16

Yeah, it it's it's cool.

Robby 36:18

That was so cool.

George 36:19

That was such a great surprise.

Robby 36:20

It's so cool. Nicole DeRuna when she asked where she can use the projector.

George 36:25

Oh no, obviously, I knew something was going on there. Jesus. Um yeah, that was funny as.

Robby 36:31

That was so funny. That was funny as, but yeah, there's a cool video remind me, and I'll I'll I'll get it for you. But I'm gonna take this conversation in a oh, and also shout out to Iggy. Shout out to Iggy, yeah. OG. Um Yeah, he messaged me the other day. He saw videographer. Yeah, that's right.

George 36:47

Who the fuck is this? Fuck this guy.

Robby 36:50

Um anyway, so um everything you're saying, time time is passing, yeah. Like and I'm gonna give you convince me. Why should I have kids?

George 37:09

Oh, sick.

Make The Case For Having Kids

Robby 37:12

You just spoke about it. It is something that I've thought about and I go hot and cold on the topic. Yeah. So sell it to me.

George 37:20

I'll sell it to you.

Robby 37:20

Because let me hey, I'll I'll I'll I'll take this in a second. I'll tell you something pretty personal. And everyone's and and maybe, yeah. Not just and maybe, um, I don't know, maybe someone can relate. I've always thought for a long time, I thought you grow up, you think you're having kids.

George 37:36

Then yeah, the natural progression of life.

Robby 37:38

Yeah, you're kind of like, yeah, yeah, you know, like that's what everyone's doing. Go to my house, get old, and then I had a period in my life where I thought there's no fucking way of having kids. And then, because I came like late 20s, I thought, nah, nah, this is I do want this, you know what I mean? And more recently, like maybe a year ago, I I reckon I'm recorded on this podcast saying yes, I want to have kids. And then um more recently, there has been times where I've thought, you know what, like if the idea of having kids went off the table, I would feel a level of relief. Which is a weird thought. Because you're like, why do I feel relief? Is there pressure on me? How am I applying this pressure to myself? Where's the pressure coming from? Why do I feel that way? I shouldn't feel good. If I feel good about the option being off the table, then maybe I don't really want it. You know what I mean? So and now I'm like hot and cold on it. I'll do it, I don't give a fuck. But have an army, sell it to me. Yeah, like because because I'll tell you the concept that I uh debate in my head. Most people that have kids, most turn around and say, don't have kids. Yeah, really. Yeah, most of them say like your life goes, your your life's gone, your next 20 years are gone.

George 38:53

Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I I think just on that, I think the majority of people live in that world. And I think they're not fit to have kids. All right, we see people like fuck, how do I say this? We see people, my wife and I, I won't say who, where, what, how, say who, say where John Anderson at 43 Wallaby Way Sydney. Right. Um Nemo. You fucking knew the reference, me, of course. Oh my god. B. Sherman 32 Wallaby Way Sydney. Fah, you know. Hey, I got kids. Look at all the things you're gonna miss out on. Um, yeah, so you know, just there's people that I see that go, man, you should never have had kids. They are an inconvenience to them. You know, it's like I still want to go, they still want to go out and party and have the top get smashed on the weekends, just live their life, go on holidays, have no obligation, but then their kids are oh, I've got to take the kids to basketball, oh, I've got to there this she's sick today, so I've got to stay home. Oh, you know, and it's like fuck, dude. I don't think you will properly grow up until you have kids. Come on, dude. I'm adult. You're not, you're not you know until you until you love someone more than you love yourself. But you say you don't think And I'm not talking about your missus or anything like that. I think about your parents. Huh? What about your parents? What about them?

Robby 40:15

You don't love your parents more than you love yourself? No, not at all.

George 40:19

Not at all. If I okay, if if you said if you said if you said now like would you die for your parents?

Robby 40:27

Yeah, but your parents wouldn't let you know. No, but that's not the question though.

George 40:31

But would you die for your parents? Like a lot of people would say, Yeah, I would die for my parents. Yeah, I would. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. And I love my parents. I'm not saying anything bad. I wouldn't die for my parents. It's not the natural order of things. No, no, sorry, Dad, you've got to die. I've got life to live, and I've got my my kids, my kids, and so on and so forth. But the question I would want the same for my children as he would want for me.

Robby 40:52

The question here is would you be willing to? That's the question. And and I think, like, for example, like if you had to jump in front of a bullet for your mum, wouldn't you? I'm pretty fucking sure you would, dude. You wouldn't be like, nah. You wouldn't, dude. You wouldn't. It it wouldn't come. Yeah, look, there is a yeah, I understand what you're saying here.

George 41:13

Yes, I know what you're saying too. Yes, but I I don't think I don't think they would want me to either. Yeah, I think. You know what I mean? It's like be like, no, no, like no, like never you exactly. That was fucking dumb. I'd be annoyed if my child that to me. I get that. You know, so there is a level where I've got to like, hey, you're right. Like you've lived your life, regardless of how long or short it is. Anyway, off topic. We're talking about you having kids. Now, first of all, you that it again, a very personal question, and it's not my job to convince you to do that. It is audience. This is 100% your fucking well, how else are you gonna call your kid fucking George? I'm not saying that's my that's a George Chekair.

Robby 41:50

Um that fucking has a good ring to it. Sound that G C I'm not saying convince me. Don't no, I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

George 41:58

It's just like you're seeing a lot of people, yes, exactly right. It is it is until you love, you'll see the love that you have between a child and yourself that there's no describable feeling behind it. You know, when you genuinely love something more than anything else, more than yourself, more than your partner, more than anyone. And it's like all sense gets taken away, like common sense, knowledge, whatever it is, whatever you want to call it, there's no logical reason, but you love them more than anything in this world and you would do anything for them. That's first of all. I think you do grow as a person, they will teach you things, no doubt. There will be challenges, there'll be everything. But the what I say with that is it's it's again, it's an adventure. All right, you've got to go through that the the shit phase where you know they're changing literally changing shit every day, where they they're sick, where you're worried about them. It's like the greatest joy and the greatest uh stress in your life, you know. You want nothing more than for them to be healthy, and then if they are ever sick, God forbid, you know, that's one of the worst things ever. And you hear stories and you know, touch wood of of terminally ill children, and it's like fucked, you know, and all the bad things that happen in this world, it's like, why would you bring children into this world with rapists and murderers and fucking pedos and all this shit going on and world wars? And it's like, why would you bring children into this world? I think there's a huge level of um uh it's just the connection, and I I I do believe you will truly grow up as a person when you have kids.

Robby 43:30

What do you think? I I would yeah, okay.

George 43:32

You will change your whole mindset, will change like everything, but for the better for the better. And I think this is where I say it has to be a decision with you because if you look at it and go, No, the kids would be such an inconvenience, right, to me in my life in the future, whenever it is, like it's gonna be such a huge inconvenience. You're never gonna sit back on your deathbed and go, Oh man, like I'm so glad we never had kids. I I reckon 90% of the people out there that make the decision, and you know, power too you're no judge.

Robby 44:00

Yeah, but like hold on. So are you living for your deathbed?

George 44:03

What do you mean? But like is that the whole No, no, no, but we're talking about even now having an a you know, a meaningful and impactful life. Yeah. I think for me, children fall into that category.

Robby 44:14

Why?

George 44:15

Because that's a that's a challenge in itself. That's a growth thing in itself. That's a love that I you'll never experience if you don't have if you don't ever have kids. It honestly is. It's a level of love and just connection that you will never like without having kids. I can't describe it to you. It's like everyone can appreciate, oh yeah, I will I can appreciate what it's like having kids and and being a dad or being a mum. Why can no one describe it?

Robby 44:40

Because I feel like, I feel like, and maybe you'll pull this clip up one day, but I feel like if I chose to have kids and I did, or I could, yeah, I feel like I'd describe it. I feel like I feel like you could. I feel like I'd be able to put it into the XL. Yeah, this is exactly let me say I'll give you the 10 steps. Yeah. I feel like I could um I could give an analogy that would be very relatable. Yeah.

George 45:10

There's there's um I'm sure there's plenty of analogies and reasons, but it's the emotion behind it. I think it's the the person that you become on the journey of having children. For me, they're not an inconvenience in any way whatsoever. If something's happening, if something needs to be like I, you know, we were we was out for breakfast the other day, and there was a kid kicking a chair and throwing shit, and I was just laughing at that. Like I thought, like other people around's like, oh, shut your kid up. Like, man, fuck. I I think that all the time. Yeah, but I would look I look at that as a father and go, that's the greatest thing ever. Like, you need to embrace that because one day he's gonna be sitting there, not fucking talking to anyone on his phone, and he's not gonna be kicking the chair, he's not gonna be doing those things. Like, you've got to you have to have the good with the bad. It's not just everything is great and everything is amazing. There are things that you have to do and you have to sacrifice, but it's all worth it. It is all worth it at the end of the day. And you know what? There's a whole level of logic. Kill you with logic. Okay, there's uh you get to pass on your seed and your generations for years to come. You get to teach them to be men, to be women, to be whatever they're gonna be when they grow up. There's um your name lives on, you know, from a logical point of view. Uh your influence in the world lives on. I think you would make a great dad as well. Sick dad. Oh, you'd be sick, dad. Exactly right. Exactly right. You would teach them core values that you've learnt over the years, uh, and it would be it would be a very fulfilling part of your life, more so than anything you have ever done before. That's what I believe. I genuinely believe for everything you will have and will accomplish in the future, there will be no greater achievement that you will make in your life than having children. And you will look at that the day that you do have them, assuming that you do one day, and you will look at that and you will go, George, you would fucking bang on. And we're gonna clip this here, and then you're gonna replay it, and we're gonna go, yep, you are fucking 100% right.

Robby 47:09

Yeah.

George 47:10

It's definitely a um yeah, do you think about it more now as well because you're in

Money Fears And Relationship Alignment

George 47:20

a more committed relationship?

unknown 47:23

Of course.

George 47:25

I'm saying you're in a relationship now, so you think about it. So to give you context as well, my wife, when she before we were married, she didn't want kids either. And she was very much of the opinion, like, no, no, I'm not gonna have kids, fuck that. All right, but it's like, well, also when you find someone that you love that you want to have a family with, that you want to have kids with, and you want to go on that journey with as well. That's also a part of the experience because there'll be challenging times between you and your partner as well during the time that you have kids. But so it's like a um I'm trying to work out how to say this without sounding like a No, I'll just say it because it's all at the end of the day, it's not I think your intent of what you're trying to say is out there. You're just putting it out there in words.

Robby 48:09

It's I I I don't think the like everyone seems to worry about the financial elements. Oh, it's not even a question. I don't think about it at all. I'm like, bro, you spend way more money. Like no one's gonna say kids don't. I I think I could be completely wrong about this, but I think kids don't cost that much. I think it might add three, four hundred dollars a month. Yeah, from the perspective of keeping them alive, you know, like nappies and food. I think it's the emotional toll that is the like this is a big deal. Like you can't you can't sit there three years in, sit down on doing tapping out, yeah. You can't do that. That's right. It's a lifelong commitment, yeah. Or at least 20 years, like you know what I mean, like at least we're at least 15. I was saying, like, until they're an adult. Um, but it's like yeah, I don't know, I don't know. My my thing that made me question it was like, huh, why did I feel a sense of relief? Like I shouldn't have felt that if this is what you want. Um I guess my fear around it obviously there's the fear of like you know, knock on wood, anything ever going wrong. That's that's fear number one. Yeah. And then and then fear number two is almost like a it's almost like a selfish fear. Like in the way of like man, like if that happened and I was still in the same position ten years down the track, like you know, what if you not I don't say you blame the kid, but like fuck it'd be it'd be because it obviously it's all it's your fault if you are and you're not happy with it. When you say your same position with what? Like I imagine you're still sitting there slogging away, working, not making as much money as you want.

George 50:00

Yeah, but here's the thing though with that too. I think it's been statistically proven. You actually go out there and make it.

Robby 50:05

I've heard, I've heard, yeah, yeah.

George 50:06

I've heard because now you have dependence, now you have things. It's like, you know, when I made the when I made when my wife and I made the decision to send our kids to private schools, I was looking at it, it's like, fuck, serious? It's another wage every year, you know, that's a lot of money. And it's like, cool, we'll like we'll make it work. Get them in there, let's make it work. And you do, you keep finding ways to make more money, you keep finding ways to grow, and it becomes the new normal. That's what'll end up happening with yourself, too. You've got to go out there now. Whether that's with um with your partner and whatever she's gonna do as well, like there's that element of it as uh as well. Um yeah, I do think that that fear is something you should be. Not the money, you should emotional toll. The emotional toll is a gift, yeah. Is it how you have to look at it? It's a gift. Everything that you've got, like all the good experiences and all the bad. It's like we said it, you know, the other day. Do you want that life where you know it's just gonna be this? You're just gonna cruise by for the rest of your life. Nothing good's gonna happen, but nothing bad's gonna happen. That's exactly what having kids is like. The kids is the extreme highs, extreme. When I say fucking extreme, the top of the top. You'll be in bed one day and your two-year-old's gonna come over to you and say, I love you, daddy, right? And hug you. And then you're hugging this little fucking animal like that you like that you made that loves you more than anything, that you are its entire world, and you're like, fuck me, I will obliterate civilizations for this child. I will defy all logic and commit genocide across everywhere for this one child. That's where I'm saying it becomes illogical and what you will and won't do for that child. In the same token, you'll get extreme lows where they might get sick or um they break a leg, or they're just fucking the naughtyest child on the planet. You know, went out a few days ago with some friends and they've got a a three-year-old, and he was losing his mind because he didn't get a lemonade, you know, and he's like causing a fuss in the restaurant. I'm just there laughing. I think it's the greatest thing ever. They're like stressed out to their hill, like, sit down, like, be quiet, you know. Boy, okay, here's your lemonade, shut up. Kid didn't even drink the lemonade. All right. And it's like the this is this is what you get. You get the good with the bad. And one day that kid's gonna be 18, 20, 30 years old, and he's gonna be out and ordering his own lemonade, or he might even hate lemonade, who knows at that age, but it's not going to matter um at that point in time. So my my uh take on it is it's the person you'll become that you never thought would even existed, and the journey that it will take you on. You'll become so much better. I might like you more. I don't know. Might be better friends. Um so what's stopping you? Having more kids? Yeah. My wife. Um, no, look, for us, it's it's a different stage in our life now. You know, had we made this decision five years ago, I think I'd be more inclined. So okay, so I got looking.

Robby 53:06

I hope you stop it too.

George 53:08

Um I think Sue was yeah, felt right. That's probably the best word for it. Yeah, boy, girl. Um you know, if why if we had a kid today, then it's another year before it's born, then it's I would be a 52-year-old with a 10-year-old. You know, I'd be one of those that I know, I know, but that's what I'm thinking. That's the am I there's a big age gap between him and my Tony Robbins had his uh had a kid at like 60. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, and my intent and part of the reason why I've put such a big emphasis on my health is because I want to be that 50-year-old that's jacked and still playing with his kids or whatever it might be, just my son walking past me at you know 18 years old, giving me the shoulder, but then thinking fuck, I better run because this my old man's gonna beat the shit out of me, you know. So there's a huge element of that too. So I know I'm gonna be, and it's like you said, there's no question about it. I know I'm gonna be fit, I'm not gonna, I know I'm gonna be strong at that age. It's um, yeah, I think it's more a lifestyle thing for us at the moment. You know, we're out of nappies, we we go on holidays when we want to. You know, we've got a jet ski, we've got the cars, we've got the life. Like at the moment, it would just be a huge culture shock for us and the family.

Robby 54:17

So But isn't that the exact same thing what we were just saying?

George 54:21

Yeah, yeah. But I think both people have to be on board with it too. It's not just one, it's not just me or my wife raising the I think it's important that you know what you're saying here too. I think it's wildly important, no, just critically important that your partner is on the same boat, you know, because if she doesn't and you do, or you do and she doesn't, there's a huge disconnect there. She'll resent you one day, or you might resent her, or you'll be like, Well, you wanted to fucking have kids, like, deal with it. All right. Um, so I think you have to be on board with your partner when it does come to kids too. Because I've seen too many people, they'll either end up in a divorce, or you just have what I just described to you before where the kids are an inconvenience to the adult's wife, and they're like, fuck, I can't wait for you to turn 18. So you can get the hell out of this house and go rent somewhere.

Robby 55:07

So what you said you believe most people live in that space.

George 55:10

Look, not most people. I think a lot of people do though. Yeah, but they're more than half, like more a majority. Look, I'd like to think no. You know, I want to think I know. I'd like to. But from what I've seen is a lot of people say, Oh no, I love my kids. And it's like, yeah, but there's a little priority there. Like you'd much rather be out with the mates and having beers or I'm sure everyone loves their kids. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I I agree. I agree with that too. But it's like, how much of a priority do you put on them, or do you wish you could still live the life that you lived when you were 23? I don't know. I see a lot of that. I don't know, maybe that's that because the people that I'm hanging around with are midlife crisis type people, you know, in their 40s and looking back at their life going, fuck, am I doing the same thing every single day? Maybe they just don't have enough fulfillment in their life that when they come home in a groundhog day and doing the same shit every day, that they look at that and go, Oh, I wish I was 23 again. I've got to take the kids to basketball.

Robby 56:03

Yeah, that that but a lot of people fall into that trap.

George 56:06

I think they do, but we were talking about that now, and we could fall into that trap in business.

Simple Health Habits That Stick

George 56:10

And that's partly why I'm trying to challenge myself from a physical point of view. And I think you're bang on with starting the health thing again. And what are you gonna do, by the way? Are you gonna go do 75 hard or are you just gonna know no specific diet or just like stop eating? Are you still going to the Saint?

Robby 56:25

Yeah, but I'm about to stop.

George 56:26

Oh yeah? Come to good life, we'll train together. Yeah, you get a global membership there.

Robby 56:31

Yeah, they pissed me off, dude. Yeah, did they?

George 56:33

I just gotta go there.

Robby 56:35

Like, hey, you're gonna charge a premium price and have like, but you can't go and sting every dollar and every opportunity yet.

George 56:42

Is that what they do though?

Robby 56:43

Do you feel like you gotta pay for parking?

George 56:46

Oh, okay.

Robby 56:47

You gotta pay you know what I mean. It's like you guys, every single opportunity you can get an extra buck out of us, you're taking it. And it's okay. Like it's good. I mean, but Ice Buff.

George 56:59

Yeah, that one time I went with you, it was like it was a cool gym. It's not like it was nice equipment, it didn't have all the stuff that I wanted, as in as far as equipment was concerned. But yeah, I could see it's a nice place, uh place to hang out. But you know what the thing is, they get oh, you go there for networking because you're seeing high-value individuals that can afford a $15,000 membership for the city. That was the concept, yeah. I look at it, and if someone comes up to me at the gym when I'm working out, I say, Don't fucking touch me and don't talk to me, go away. Yeah, well, I also am that guy that doesn't want to be talked to, spoken to, yeah, or like put my headphones even.

Robby 57:28

Yeah, exactly.

George 57:29

Like you're in the zone. Like, I don't talk to anyone at the gym ever, uh, unless I'm with the person that I'm training with.

unknown 57:35

Yeah.

George 57:35

That's a little bit different. And I like like I'm all for having a training partner to actually go there and and because you can you can push a bit more when you have someone spotting you as well. But yeah, I think um I I'd much rather I I was gonna buy a membership, honestly. I was gonna go there not long ago and get one. But then I thought, you know what, I'd rather have uh PT and do the training with him as opposed to um putting it into there.

Robby 57:58

Yeah, that's fair.

George 57:58

So that's how I looked at it instead.

Robby 58:00

Um yeah, so I'm not gonna not gonna do anything every time I've done a dramatic shift, going back to the health thing, every time I've done a dramatic shift, it hasn't lasted.

George 58:10

Yeah, it has to be a lifestyle change. It can't just be for the next three months.

Robby 58:14

I want to just get into the habit of like just stop eating like a fat person.

George 58:20

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, because it doesn't stop. Yeah, and especially if you're not moving.

Robby 58:26

You know, focus on like today. I just went instead of sitting down and having a whole lunch, I just walked. I went for a walk and I picked up a protein bar and I was just like, I'm just gonna get some steps in, like just get some movement in. Yeah, and just building like little daily habits. Like even yesterday in the morning, I just got up and went for a walk.

unknown 58:44

Yeah.

George 58:44

Well, if you do it again, let me know. We'll go for a walk. Yeah. I actually I I found it funny enough, a walking buddy, like one of my mates, he lives in South Melbourne, not too far from me. And we'll often catch up almost every week and we'll go for a good two, one and a half to two hours walk. Almost every morning, like when we had the long weekend, Friday, uh sorry, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday mornings. Went to his house and went and walked, you know, through botanical gardens, through the tennis center, through the city, and back through South Melbourne again. And it was like a you know, we walk 12,000 steps or whatever it might be in that in that stint, and we just talk shit, like it's a good catch-up, it's healthy, like we're out and about. It makes such a big change to your the rest of your day. You know, you're starting off with a win like that.

Robby 59:27

Yeah, just doing like um like walking meetings. A lot of people do walking meetings.

George 59:31

Yeah. Um I find my conversations don't go for long enough. So I'd have to call multiple people during that time.

Robby 59:38

Yeah, well, just do that. You just call people you yarn, but yeah, just changing. I guess I I guess the point where I'm like, all right, what I've been doing isn't working in the way that I want. So I'm just gonna change some shit. Yep.

George 59:50

As you said, it's just gotta be that lifestyle change, I reckon. Yeah, yeah. And look, man, go go have the donut every now and then. You know what I mean? It's not, it's not, no one meal is gonna make you fat at the same way no one meal is gonna make you skinny.

Robby 1:00:04

Yeah, but it's like, okay, cool, like you go get a burger, like eat one, don't eat two.

George 1:00:07

Yeah, yeah, that's right. In moderation, exactly. Yeah, and the same thing. Like just have one burger, yeah. Yeah, just have one donut, and it's like that sort of stuff. I I couldn't agree more with you uh when it comes to that. It's like the time when we went to Meat and Wine Co. Yeah, we ate, we actually worked out that day. I went to the gym, but it's like I still had dessert, and I was like, well, fuck it, man. It's like I can reward myself every now and then. It's not a matter of me not being able to eat this food. Um, it's just not gonna happen every single night.

Robby 1:00:34

Yeah, and I think that's all it has to be. But I think what it did for me, because like I've got no I've you don't mean you know you've done something, you're like, I get this. Yep. I know I can do it. It's more like the huh, like that much fucking time passed. Yeah, and you just you just you didn't even feel it. You know what I mean? It kind of like just went, and then the next thing you know, you'd be 40 and you're old. Nah. Like me. Nah, like, dude, next thing you know, you're 50.

George 1:01:01

But you know, as long as you know joke about it, dude. Like you it'll come so fucking quick. That's what I'm saying. And you're gonna be we're gonna be at your 40th party.

Robby 1:01:08

Yeah.

George 1:01:08

All right, and it's gonna be like teasing George, you just teach George about this now here. Um with your with your two kids. Yeah. Two kids by 40.

Robby 1:01:19

Um Yeah, that would make sense, huh? Anyway, the then you're 40, then you're then you're 50, then you're like, oh fuck, like I've got you know 15, 20 years of work left, maybe and then I'm done.

George 1:01:35

Look, even my dad was saying that, he goes, Hey, I'm 69, you turned you just turned 69 years old. I'm like, hey, like you could still live another fucking lifetime, right? You could still live another 30 years, like you couldn't get the bucket yet. You keep saying, you know, I'm at the age, I could go every day now. Yeah, you could, yes, you're right. You could get the fucking knock on the door, but you could also live another lifetime. You could see great grandchildren. Okay, yeah. Like you could be old enough that touch wood, your children go before you, like you know, it can happen. These things can happen. Happens to people all the time, happens to people all the time.

Robby 1:02:06

Yeah, they they're they're 85 and they're 60 and get sick and and people die. 60, dude.

George 1:02:12

Like happens all the time.

Robby 1:02:13

They've people die in their 50s, and um, yeah, it's just like that mortality reminder, dude. Yeah, like how quickly time is going and how it just goes quicker and quicker.

George 1:02:24

I feel that at the age that you and myself are at, it's just becomes more prominent, it just becomes something that's closer that you just look back and reminisce a little bit more. And I think when you have that that moment with friends, with family, with yourself, whatever it might be, and you go, Fuck, okay. I reckon there's um there's a moment that exists like that multiple times throughout the year. My dad had this exact same moment, actually, funny enough. So we were at a couple years ago, he went to Greece and he was quite large and he put on a lot of weight because he ate like a fucking animal when he was there. Right, because that's what they do, they just sit there, eat and drink. And he came back and he was 130 kilos. Right. Now, if you saw him on the podcast the other day, he's probably around 100 kilos. He lost 30 kilos.

Robby 1:03:09

He said that to him, I was like, yeah, he lived in Slim.

George 1:03:11

Yeah, he lost 30 kilos, and it was for one person that did it for him. All right, my wife. She goes up to him, and he knows Nicole's quite blunt at the best of times, and she we're at his house, and we'll just over for lunch or something like that. She goes, updoor talking. She goes up to him, she goes, Hey, she goes, You're not gonna see your fucking grandkids. You're fucking fat. Like, start losing some weight because you're not gonna be around to see them grow up. And it's like he told me this only recently, like last month. And he goes, That moment right there, he goes, I don't know if she caught me in the right moment, I don't know what it was, but in that moment, he goes, I made a decision to change and and lose that weight. So he got up, started walking, eating healthier, not binging, not you know, having one burger instead of two, and so on and so forth. Yeah, just like and it's like he's done that and he's at the point now where he's in great shape for his age and he's doing well and he's still losing a bit of weight and he's still going on his walks and he's fitter, better version of himself as a result of that one moment that he that hit him at almost 70. Yeah, at almost 70, right? And he lost it. 30 kilos. That's a lot of fucking weight. 30 kilos. 30 kilos is huge. That is a lot of weight. You'd roll around differently. Yeah, but that's what I mean. He's he can breathe better, he can sleep better, you can move better. Everything's uh positive when it comes to that. But he had to have that one moment where it's like, okay, I need that wake-up call. Now you've had it recently, and you're not even in that bad shape, but it's like, no, no, I need to do more because you know you can do more. You are you know you can achieve it, and you've just bought into the comfort of uh fucking the donuts of the junk food or whatever it might be. And I think everyone does that. It's the comfort killer, and that's why I refuse to don't get me wrong, there's times of comfort. I'm not David Goggins where I'm like, no, you gotta fucking stay hard all the time. But I also think there's a huge level that you need to be pushing yourself at.

Robby 1:05:00

Yeah, I think it's the you gotta get comfortable with the it's never gonna be that comfortable. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like you're always it's always gonna be a little bit of a push to be like, no, no. Like you know, like A, like don't get the palm, I get the

Mortality And Stacking Quick Wins

Robby 1:05:20

salad. A like you get the the salad is more than enough food. Do you know what I mean? You get the you gotta get the chicken salad or the lent, like that's more than enough food and it's gonna keep you slim. Yeah, and it's like those decisions. Yeah, you know what I mean? I'm like, nah, but I'm gonna get the palm twice and some entrees and the garlic red. Um yeah, it's that those sorts of decisions. Do you know what I mean? And um yeah, but uh the the looping back, I think the the time reminder of oh fuck, yeah. You know, look how long you've let this slide for. And for for you listening, that might be you know, fuck man, I'm still in this job. Or that might be You know, we're still in the same position as a business, or I'm still, you know, I I I'm still in this relationship that I don't want to be in, or I'm not in the relationship that I do want to be in. You know what I mean? Um whatever that is for you, you know, mending relationships, family, friends, like fucking time's passing, man. Like time is going so fucking fast.

George 1:06:24

You know, I think we really attract that to us when we're doing events as well. I think the people that are in the room are those people, are the people where they're at a point in their life or their business where they're like, fuck, I need to do something more. It's not just I'm gonna go here because I'm gonna have a bit of fun, even though we do have some fun at the events and we joke around a little bit. But I find that the vast majority of the people that are in the room and that also take action to then come to the next training or be part of a bigger program are those people where they're like, fuck, is this what it's gonna be like? I need to do something different, I need to do something more. And I feel that that there's a lot of people that are like that in this world, they just don't know where to begin. Okay, if you are like that, where would you begin? I know if you were one of those people where your life's not where it needs to be, where would you begin?

Robby 1:07:12

I would I would try and get the quickest win I can get.

George 1:07:15

Yep. Yep, I think that's good. That's right. Stack up some wins.

Robby 1:07:18

Yeah, and I would focus on seriously, like everything above everything else, it's like, dude, and maybe this is just where my head's at now. But like, if you got sick tomorrow, like fuck, you you would drop the business, you would drop the clients, you would drop everything in a heartbeat. I've seen it happen to get your health yeah, I've got to do it.

George 1:07:37

I've seen people on there's a bloke I know who got real sick at a brain tumor and sold the business, sold the fucking everything.

Robby 1:07:45

Everything, not nothing matters anymore. Yeah, nothing matters. It's like all of that goes straight out the window, and it's like I need to get this sorted. Because if I don't get this sorted, that's not gonna be the world I reckon seeing someone you know die does stuff to you. And I think it makes you realise that the world moves on. You know what I mean? It's like like that person's gone now, they're not here anymore. Wherever they are, who knows? But they're not here. And everyone, like, you know, most people went to work next week. Yeah, and their lives carried on, and people were sad, and some people grieved for a bit longer, and it's like we're all working towards that point in time. Fucking wild, dude. Wild. And it's like when you get those reminders, like, oh, I'm just closer to that now, and I'm just closer to that, and I'm closer to that, and I haven't gotten the thing I want to get, or I haven't been able to, you know, or the goalpost keeps fucking moving. And it's like yeah, it's just this is take this as your your reminder.

George 1:08:53

Yeah. I uh you bang on with what you said. I think the the health thing's where you've got to start. Dude, I think it has to be no matter where you're at in your life, even if you are relatively healthy, like you've got to start, I think, physically, because then the mental will follow.

Robby 1:09:08

Yeah, I also think though, like so. If you're for example, if you're let's just say you're you're significantly overweight, and you can get a quick win somewhere else, like you can get a quick win in business, I would get the as a as as a bit of a gamble, but but I feel like the momentum, like get momentum, man. Life is momentum. Do you know what I mean? I feel like I don't do enough, and I also feel like I like that though. Hey, I like that though.

George 1:09:33

The the feeling or that I said that? No, no, I think but both. I think it's good that you feel like you don't do enough.

Robby 1:09:38

Yeah, I feel like I don't do enough. I also know that people look at me and say, fuck you, you got a lot going on.

George 1:09:44

Heaps, yeah. I see that all the time. People don't know the how do you do I get it all the time. Like, how do you do your construction? How do you do your build or late? How do you do podcasts? How do you do all that sort of shit? And um, yeah, as I said, you'll get criticized along the way too, some from from most of the people that love you the most, right? Trying to keep you safe and in the comfort zone. But then from other people who are just like, oh, try to bring him down. You know, he's doing too much, he's showing us up.

Robby 1:10:07

That's uh welcome to earth. Welcome to Earth. Um, yeah, so so take this as a as a reminder, you know, it's already um it's already halfway through 2026. You know, George, COVID happened in the last where we are just to so you understand, like we're three years away from COVID happening ten years ago.

George 1:10:35

Where did it start?

Robby 1:10:36

It started in 2019.

George 1:10:37

Did it really?

Robby 1:10:38

End of 2019, yeah. We got shifted to working from home at the start of 2020.

George 1:10:42

Oh, that's right.

Robby 1:10:43

Yeah, so like three more years, three and a bit more years. That's right. It's gonna be a decade.

George 1:10:47

Because I went to the I went to CGC in the States 2020.

unknown 1:10:51

Yeah.

George 1:10:51

And I got back, and that was when like the first lockdown was.

Robby 1:10:55

That's what I'm saying. So it's like we're we're three and a half years away from COVID being a decade ago. Like, think about that. That was that was a a a significant moment in life that is soon gonna be talked about because it was ten years ago.

George 1:11:11

Like that's how make movies about it.

Robby 1:11:15

Back in the olden days. Yeah, time time is flying, man. And uh It ain't gonna slow down. Stops for no man, no one, or woman. Um yeah, do something.

George 1:11:33

Do something sick. Go out there and challenge yourself. Because you can achieve a lot more than you you are probably currently doing, I reckon. I think everyone can, and that comes back to your comment about I know I could I feel like I could do more. Because as I said, I think you do heaps.

Robby 1:11:47

Yeah, but you also you you want to like it's the I know I'm gonna kick the bucket one day. And it's kind of like the you know what, man, like I want to kick the bucket and be like fucking gate, let me tell you, gave this thing a good fucking shake. You know what I mean? Gave this thing absolutely got nothing left in me.

George 1:12:07

And that's where I think coming back to the children conversation, it's not an there's no element of it being regretful. No element. I hope everyone listening to the movie. There's this movie, there's this I I hope so too. I I would I'd like to think the vast majority of people would, even the people that their children are inconvenienced, they would agree with me. They would still say this is the greatest love I've ever had. Can't

The Arrival Question And Dog Wisdom

George 1:12:30

be fucked going to soccer training, but it's the greatest love I've ever had. Um there's this movie called uh we'll finish up on this Arrival. Obviously you've seen it. But the premise of it is would you it's actually an alien it's an alien movie that has nothing to do about aliens makes sense. Yeah. So the whole premise, and I'm gonna spoiler alert, so turn the podcast off, subscribe before you do. Yeah. Uh but if you don't want to know what happened in the movie. So the whole premise of it is the lady has a child, and then she has the option, she ends up finding out that when she when the child turns 14, it's gonna die of cancer. And the option is put forward to her, would you still have the child knowing that it was going to die at 14? And that was the option put forward to her, and she chose to have the child, knowing fully well that no matter what she did at 14 years old, that child was going to die. And then um, the husband that she was married to found that out too, that she knew and obviously divorced and said, How could you do that? We should never have had her. That's so selfish of you. And it just begs the question like, would you still have the child knowing what you know, but also you're denying her that life, but you also know how much you're gonna love her and she's gonna love you, or would you not have it to save yourself the pain or the child the pain? It's a very um very interesting question. And I don't What's your answer? Yeah, that's the question that that's the answer that it begs. Fuck, bro.

Robby 1:14:09

Because like it's a it's that's a that's half an answer. Yeah, but can they have another kid?

George 1:14:15

Um that wasn't the question.

Robby 1:14:19

Can I call a friend? Um, no, yeah, yeah. Very it's two sides to it. Because then you can say, like, hey, it's like having a dog, man. Like a dog lives for that long. And I I get it, I get it. Before everyone fucking flips out and says, This is a kid. No, no, no. Like, I understand.

George 1:14:33

You learn so much from dogs. You know, like the I'm telling you, dude, like you look at a dog, I've got sick. I've got a dog. Man, I go home, my dog runs to me every fucking day when I open up that door. And you look at the kids and you're like, fucking what you're doing. But what I'm saying is a dog's time is so limited in this planet on this planet. They've got what, 10 to 15 years at the most. How many times? And if you're if you've got a family dog, right, and it that's looked after, not abused, like looked after, how many times you look at that dog and it walk around like it's abused, like it's abused, like it's sad. Like, oh fuck, today's the same day. Are you serious? Oh man, I'm just gonna eat and shit. And they get so excited from the littlest and the smallest. Let's go for a walk. And then it's like they're up like this the greatest day ever. Like, what? Yeah, what the same dog food again? Are you serious? I cannot believe I've got this. Like, look at how much they are like how joyful they are and how happy they are, and how much love they bring to you and to family and to everyone. Like they're and their time is short, and they don't waste any of that. They don't waste any of that worrying about fucking the fact that their dog food is the same, the fact that they're in the same home, walking the same route every single night for the dog walk. They don't care about any of that. They're just happy to be alive, they're happy to be there in the moment, they're happy to m have the most of every opportunity. Yeah, you're gonna learn a lot from fucking dogs. Dude, and what do they live for? Like 700 weeks? Yeah. Amazing. It's not that long. You put out that into perspective with us, we don't live that long either. You know? Okay, you're saying, all right, we live, we could live to 100, most of us live to 70, whatever it is. We don't live that long either. Before you know it, it's fucking gone. All right, no one worries, you said, all the people that have gone before us, most of the people on the planet right now are not thinking about them. No one's thinking about the Queen. Queen Elizabeth. No one thought about her today. Yeah, all the people who have made change the world impact on the world. Yeah, change the world, let alone your own family. So sick. Good good chat. Good chat.

Robby 1:16:42

Um urgency.

George 1:16:45

Have some urgency.

Robby 1:16:46

A little bit of urgency.

George 1:16:47

Yeah, I that's a great way to sum it up. Have some urgency. Like, come on, like you need to go. Need to fucking move. Now, that's the truth. Speaking of going, that's what we're gonna do now.

Have Some Urgency And Wrap

George 1:17:02

Thank you very much for tuning in again, million dollar days podcast, episode 1483. That's not correct. Don't fact check me on that. But one day we will say that. One day we will. One yeah, and when we do say that, it's not gonna be from a place of going through the motions or regretting anything, that's for sure. It's gonna be through a how fucking good is this? That's what you're gonna say. Listen to uh ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, a hi. Uh let me introduce you to Mr. Joe Rogan. Listen. X, how does it feel to have the second biggest podcast in the world? Uh, too good. Too good.

Robby 1:17:45

That's it. That's all, folks. Thanks for listening. See you later. We'll see ya.