Million Dollar Days

Building Resilience Through Better Thinking

Robby Choucair and George Passas Season 1 Episode 148

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One driver tailgates, another refuses to move, and a calm Saturday morning turns into chaos in seconds. That freeway moment becomes our jumping-off point for a deeper topic: emotional control. When you flip out over something small, it usually isn’t the traffic, the scratched rims, or the person “doing 80.” It’s your internal pressure finally finding a release.

We talk about mindset and emotional intelligence in the real world, not as motivational fluff, but as a practical skill set for business owners, leaders, and anyone trying to show up better at home. We break down why anger can be your smoke alarm, how bad days compound when you keep stacking negative meaning, and how the “winning streak” mindset helps you find traction again. We also dig into empathy and perspective, including how context can completely change your interpretation of the exact same event.

From managing employees without losing your cool to dealing with online negativity without giving it power, the thread is the same: responsibility equals freedom. We share concrete tools like auditing your circle, improving your inputs through books and podcasts, and building a personal “tens, twenty-fives, fifties, and hundreds” list so you can reset your state when you’re spiraling.

If this hits home, subscribe, share it with a mate who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find the show. What’s the smallest thing that reliably triggers you, and what would it look like to respond with control instead?

A Relaxed Saturday Recording

George

You know, I quite like coming into the podcast studio doing an episode on a Saturday.

Robby

Why?

George

I don't know, I just feel fresh. I feel that during the week when we do it, sometimes there's a million things going on. So when we come here, it's just like hey, just no zero distractions, no phone calls, my phone isn't gonna blow up. I'm still gonna put on dinner. You're gonna get yeah, absolutely. You're still gonna get you're gonna get a really quality chat, but just a more relaxed chat from myself anyway.

Robby

I um I agree. I definitely feel the same way. I was uh so for context for those listening, this is recorded on a Saturday morning, but this but this particular episode, not all of them. Yeah, not all of them, or almost none of them, yeah. Um, but I I was coming into work this morning, and it was surprisingly cold this morning. It was fresh, yeah. It was like one degree. And uh I got up and your car inside or outside? My car, yeah. It's in the garage. That's it, yeah. Yeah, so it's like there was no misses. You have double garage? Double garage. Oh, what a life. Yeah, yeah. What a life. Living the dream. Only my car. Yeah, just in the middle, right in the middle. You can stay outside. Um yeah, I'm not kidding. Um, but the uh this morning, so I got up, you know, it was a nice morning. Um, had a good sleep, and I was on my way to work, and uh I live in the west. So I was coming on the freeway uh on the way into Elbert Park, and they're doing some work so and there's all sorts of shit, but you know, the freeway is pretty good on a Saturday morning. So I was doing about 120 in the right lane.

George

But you meant you the safe and legal speed you were doing, of course, yeah. Sorry, 100. So it's 100 on the freeway there. Oh, sorry, did I say 120? Yeah, you I think you've just type slipped the uh slipped the slip of the tongue.

Robby

Um anyway, I was driving in the right lane, and for everyone listening, if you don't know this, the right lane, you know, uh we I feel like we don't have this rule in Australia or people don't understand. Oh, it's definitely a it's an unspoken rule. Everyone, I think I don't know if everyone knows because if you drive in uh keep left and less overtaking, it's fucking signs on in the freeway when you drive that. Yeah, but people do not abide by it. Yeah, it's uh it's I know it. If you drive overseas, people know it. Like if you drive if you're in yeah, yeah, if you're in uh uh in Europe, it's people left overseas, they just they do 200k an hour. Yeah, but I don't give a shit. If you are in the most outer lane, so for us it's the right lane, overseas it's the left lane, and you're not you're driving like the speed limit, people are up your ass high beaming, saying, like, move, like this is the overtaking lane, like get out the way, you know what I mean? Uh, and rightly so. I agree with that. I think that's great. Uh, and this morning I was doing a little bit over in the right lane, and I was, you know, cruising down, and I look up in my mirror and I see a car right behind me. What type of car was it? Was it BMW X4 and X3 or X5 or something? Yeah, yeah. New one. And I thought, this might be a cop. I haven't seen it. I just looked up.

George

Yeah, they do drive the highway patrols at B.

Robby

And I thought first glance, and I've seen this guy behind me. Didn't see him coming, don't know where he came from. And I just first glance and I saw him, and I thought, I better just I'll move out of the way. You know what I mean? So I move out of the way and he zooms past me. And I thought sick. So I jumped back behind him, and I thought, this is now they're gonna catch him first, you know. I'll I'll follow him. Uh, and then he is driving down the right lane. I'm driving down the right lane, not not like flying, just like he was just going a bit, he was, you know, like going, he was go going somewhere, he was trying to get somewhere. And uh another car, it was like a turtle kluger, and hey, you know, there's a lot of four drives in Australia.

George

Heaps, man.

Robby

Yeah, it's like everyone's like it's like more than sedans, yeah. It's wild, like everyone's got a big car. Um, anyway, uh and then there's this turtle kluger. Uh I think it was a Kluger. Well, it might have been a Rab Four, the new Rab 4s or something. And um he was in the right lane also, but he was doing like 80 because there's road works coming up, and he was doing like 80, and then this guy comes behind him and he gets stuck behind him, and he's like kind of the guy wasn't like super tailcating, but like he was kind of like, hey, like, you know, get it the fucking way. That was how I understood it. And for when he did it to me, I was like, Yeah, of course, it was the right lane. Go for it, bro. Like, you know, I was going fast. You're gonna go faster than me, go. Like where you go, you're your fucking road. Anyway, the guy wasn't moving, the turtle. So we got a turtle, a BMW, and then Robbie in the ranger.

A Freeway Moment Turns Ugly

Robby

And the turtle was not moving at all. And then the guy in the BMW went to overtake him in the left lane, and he went to overtake him, and then the guy in the turtle. No, don't. I'm gonna leave. Huh? Are you gonna say he sped up? He did not sped up, dude. He I would be so upset if that happened. He fucking lost it. Yeah, like lost his marbles, dude. He was. I I was watching from the back. I was gonna say, if you could see that, I could see him flipping out, dude. I could see him flipping out, and um he flipped out so hard that when the BMW went to overtake him on the left, the BMW passed him and then smashed the brakes and slowed back down. Yeah, yeah. He was like, Oh, you motherfucker, what'd you say? Like, and they were going at it on the freeway, dude. Yeah, and I'm watching this thing from behind, and I'm thinking, like, come on, guys, like it's nice morning, the sun is shining, it's blue skies, you know. I had a really good sleep. Like, how are you so angry at being tailgated? That's at seven in the morning. I didn't 7 30 in the morning. I didn't get involved, I went all the way that I left, overtook them both, and just kept going. Um, but it stuck with me because I was sitting there thinking, okay, like how are you so like that that person wasn't that person wasn't everything was handy dandy and they're wrapped, and then one person tailgated them and they flipped out. You know what I mean? That person obviously is unhappy about something, like something's really really bothering them, you know, and then that was like the the straw that broke the camel's back.

George

I actually don't even think it was a straw that broke the camel's back. I reckon he would be acting like that in any situation like that.

Robby

Yeah, but doesn't that that you know, doesn't that say like, hey man, like you know, you're not okay.

George

Think about and I've been victim to this too, and I'm sure you have as well. Say you're driving and then like someone cuts you off. Say it's by accident, not even on purpose. They just cut you off, they didn't see you, they didn't, and you've just lost your mind, you're on the horn, you're like, fuck this guy, and abusing him and finger out the window and all that sort of stuff. Have you ever done anything like that before? Me? Yeah. Oh, not really. Really? Oh, you know, surely you've said, look at this fuck with or something. You've said, surely you have. Of course. I know every day. Every day. But see how even that even in that instance, the fact that you are swearing at someone who probably doesn't even know you exist and probably doesn't even know they did anything wrong because they didn't see you there, and you're losing it. Like, how out of control are you of your emotions that you can't that you have to react in such a way? Do you know what I mean? That's what I think of now, and I heard that somewhere as well. And whenever, and just using driving as an example, I very rarely get road rage these days because it's like I I feel like I'm now out of control. If I'm I can't control my own emotions just because some bloke made a mistake or woman, obviously woman, um, made a mistake driving. You heard it here first, snip it, quick opportunity, put it on the um on the gram and just get the reactions. Just yeah, get the get the likes and follows up. So the I've lost my train of thought. Yeah, so how out of control are you and your emotions if you can't even just handle something like that? And then I take it outside of the car and go, all right, well, when something happens in the in the business, am I gonna lose it every single time when something happens? You know, I had one of my employees wasn't doing something that they should be doing, it's part of their role. Okay, and I spoke to my GM about it. I said, hey, just highlighting to you, I sent him an email, highlighting to you that this isn't getting done, and it's the probably the 15th time I've told the guy to do it. All right, this is gonna start to become a real issue. This is a real issue, not start to become this is a real issue, and you go, you need to start handling it. Long story short, he spoke to the employee, and then I'd spoken to him as well, just about something else. And he brought the employee brought it up. He goes, Oh, look, I know I haven't been doing that. And he goes, blah, blah, blah. I said, listen, he goes, I know you're gonna yell at me. I said, Listen, Nick. Oh, Nick, there you go. You know who it is now. I said, Listen, Nick, I'm not gonna yell at you. All right, I'm not going to yell. It's not about me yelling at you and treating you like a little kid. I go, you know what you need to do. You know this is part of your role, and I'm paying you to do that role. And if you don't do that role, then why should I pay you to do it? You know, I'm just letting him sink in. Like I and and as much, and as great as he is, like he's a great employee and does really good stuff, and it's just one little element that lets him down. But hey, that's not fair that everyone else is doing everything and you don't get and you get away with doing without doing this one thing. Because that one thing can cost a lot of money in the future, but I but my point is I'm getting at I didn't lose my mind. Okay, there was no point me yelling, because I could have. I could have, I've told you 15 times to do this. You are useless, you are this, yeah. I could have lost my mind, but that wouldn't have got the desired result. I don't think it would, it might, he'd be motivated by fear for a short amount of time, and then in the future he'll probably forget or won't do it again, or whatever it might be. Or maybe he'd be that disgruntled and say, Well, I don't like this aspect of my job. I'm gonna go find a new job. And I need him to finish a project for me now, and he leaves me halfway through. Like, do you know what I mean? There's no advantage for me being out of control. Whereas I got a much better result out of me having a mature conversation with him, and even though that upset me, I didn't let it upset me. And I think that's pretty powerful shit when you can start fucking all aspects of your business, whether uh life, whether it's your business or your personal life.

Robby

Yeah, but like um I feel as though it's great when you have that level of awareness, yeah. But I guarantee you, if I don't know who this guy was, but if I had a conversation with him, if we got him on the should have said, come, come to the podcast. Follow me, follow me, yeah. Hold the sign up on you. Um, but if we had a conversation with him, I guarantee you he would sit there and defend his position. Yeah, he would be like, What do you mean? He fucking tailgated me. You know what I mean? Like, hey, he he was up by up. What are you talking about? Yeah, speeding. Yeah, that fucking winker, blah, blah, blah. And he would start going off.

George

And then you can speak to the other bloke. Yeah. See, the other bloke as well was just in all honesty, that other guy that was behind you initially, he's in a he's not in a good space either. Because he did the exact same thing.

unknown

Yeah.

George

Do you know what I mean? Because he could have very easily just uh look at this guy just going slow, Sunday drive Saturday morning driver. Just pulled over to the left, gone in front of him, and then pulled back over to the right. He could have done that. Instead, he pulled over to the left, got in front of him, slammed the brakes to 60, and then started abusing him and then started. No, no, you didn't he didn't block him off. Well, didn't you say you got in front and then slowed down?

Robby

He he passed him. He was in there, so he'd passed him, yeah. And then because he saw him flipping out, he slowed back down. So they were next to each other.

George

Okay, but then even then, yeah. He slowed back down. Like, why engage? So you could have just gone around and kept I just went around both of them then. Exactly. So both of them actually weren't in a good space. It's not just one of the other. They were both in a bad space mentally. And I'm sure if you got them in a room and started speaking to them, say they're on this podcast, I think the general consensus of their mindset would be a negative one. Oh, so Hattie, what do you think about the economy right now? What industry are you in? I'm I'm in, you know, uh I'm a barista. And like, okay, so you know, I own a cafe. He goes, Oh, what's business? Like, oh mate, do you know how much coffee cups are these days? Do you know how much coffee is? Do you know how much I have to pay a barista these days? Like, I'm sure that would be the conversation, not oh, what a life. I get to smell coffee every single day. What a life. I get free coffees all the time. Because it's my business. Yeah. You know, they wouldn't be they wouldn't be thinking about things on the brighter side.

Robby

Why though? What what do what is it? So I what's the underlying thing? Why was I able to not and I'm not like not tooting my own whole thing? I think I have the answer, but go. Yeah. Why was I able to be like, huh, and just go around them? Yeah. And then they were like instantly, uh, it's like the trigger was so small for them to have a reaction. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm I'm not fucking Gandhi, like come on. I I am. You are.

George

I'll see. I've seen you meditate.

Robby

Do you know what I mean? Like I'm not, like, I'm not I wouldn't sit here and say that and and you know, there are moments where I will flip out about or or you know, crack the shit, or something will bother me way more than I should. You know what I mean? But in this moment, I just could not have cared less about them both. Yeah. I thought what a story this is gonna be on the podcast as I'm on my way on my way in. Yeah.

George

I think there's a a number of things. I think one is you're trained. I think that has to do something, has to have something to do with it. And when I say trained, I mean like you've done a lot of personal development work. You've worked on yourself, you read a lot of books, you're intellectual, and your mind, you understand that your

When Anger Shows You Something

George

mind is a muscle and it's a powerful thing, and you train it. Okay, so you're you're very well versed in that space. So you're not gonna, your first go-to emotion isn't gonna be anger, hate, um, resentment, spite. It's not gonna be that. I don't think you're gonna naturally be programmed that because you're consuming far too many positive things. You're reading a lot, you're learning stuff. Like you're also you're also um driven in an area and in a field that you're really pushing and dedicating a lot of your energy to that you're not gonna then take that energy and go put it into abusing someone on the road. So I think there's a level of that that comes into play when it's uh why you don't act like that. But then it's like, okay, well, there's plenty of people that do the same thing that are have businesses and whatever. I almost say heaps of business. Yeah, and and still lose their mind over stupid. I would say people that are that are uh like brilliant people, people that are doing very well in their life. Yep, yeah, and they will still fucking flip out. Well, so funny. I I was speaking, I was having a conversation with someone yesterday, and they were talking about this high-level executive that got a senior role. So he was in a senior role and then he got the top dog role, let's just say GM of the business, whatever it might be. And this is a multi like a business that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. As soon as he got into the role, it went to his head in the sense of he started abusing people, like talking down to people, being very disrespectful, harassing people, taking things that he felt that he was entitled to, like a company car, like holidays that were gifted to people, he would take it, you know, stuff like that. And um, you know, you would think that this person's gonna be um, you know, should be a leader, should be a person of abundance, but he went completely the opposite way. In a real senior role, looking after a business that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, he went the other way where he was, you know, negative, authoritarian, just all that sort of stuff. And it's like, well, what is happening in your life to have to think that you need to be that way or act that way?

Robby

Uh uh with someone like that, I would dare say that person was always like that.

George

So funny you said that because that's the way the conversation went. Because I was speaking with this guy, because I know nothing of them or anything.

Robby

I don't know, yeah. I don't even know who you're talking about.

George

Yeah, well, I don't would I'm being very vague on purpose. But when I was speaking to the guy, because I knew nothing of their organization or anything, and that's effectively what it came out to. And I go, he goes, Okay, but looking back, you know, is that what he was like? And he goes, Yeah, now that I look back, there's little things that he was doing. I'm like, Oh, you were always like that.

Robby

Yeah, yeah.

George

You was never a moment where you weren't. And even got magnified. So yeah, it got magnified, and then it was a pretty big thing, and you got um taken out of that position, but it went proper with solicitors and HR and all these people, so he got effectively fired. But he goes, You speak to that person, he's the victim. He didn't do anything wrong. It's like, oh, that's bullshit, they're all against me. Everyone just doesn't like me here, and that's why they all went against me, that's why they're saying all these things, they're all lying. You know, oh, I didn't do that. That's that's you know, anyone can take the car, I was just using it, you know, and it's just like, well, mate, you you're becoming a victim of your own demise. And I feel that a lot of people do fall into that category. I think most people always blame, and that's where I think it comes from, too. They blame everything and everyone else for all the shitty things that's going on in their life, never taking responsibility, never taking it.

Robby

Do you think do you think um do you think you've ever blamed?

George

100%. 100% even now, I'll yeah, but it's like not I'm much better now.

Robby

Yeah, yeah. And and yeah, that's that's a very good uh thinking point out. It's not about being perfect, yeah, it's about just improving it. Yeah, without it. It's like cool, man. Like, you know, I used to flip out nine out of ten times, now I flip out seven out of ten times. It's like, hey, that's an improvement, right? Um what is it? What what do you think the difference is between the time because I'm sure what do you think the difference is between the times you've blamed and the times you've been like okay, it's my fault.

George

Or okay, uh, this is not even gonna bother me. I mean, I'm sure there's stuff that trigger every that triggers everyone. Like something might annoy me more than something else.

Robby

You know now Can you share an example? Yeah, I'm trying to think of one. Like a if like a real simple one?

George

Yeah.

Robby

What's a pet peeve you have?

George

Ah, pet peeve. I've got little things bother me. The big things don't bother me. Yeah, yeah.

Robby

What's the little thing like like you know, someone leaves a book on the table?

George

Okay. You know, this is little this might annoy absolutely everyone, actually. You know, dishwasher when you unload the dishwasher. Yeah. So I'm like missus would put the forks with the knives, the knives with the forks, not in the right spot. She'd just throw them in. And I would open up the drawer when I was unloading the dishwasher, and shit's everywhere. Yeah, I would flip. And it annoyed the shit out of me. And I'm like, hey, I go, what are you doing? I go, you may as well just pour the thing out and just close the drawer and then move on. Leave it in there. We'll live out of the dish. Yeah, yeah, just happen, just leave it, I'll do it. Anyway, and then one time she's like, She's like, because I woke up one morning, I wake up early in the morning and I saw it, and I started unloading the dishwasher. Like, okay, I'll fix you up. So I'm unloading everything and I'm moving the dishes, the the cutlery in all the right spots, and it's making noise. And she's sleeping and she's cracking it. She's like, You're making so much noise. I said, Listen, I'm gonna make so much noise for the rest of my life unless you put these things in the right fucking spot. And um, but you know, I could have just I could have handled that differently instead of going the revenge path. I go, cool, you're gonna put these in the wrong spot. I'm gonna make heaps of noise and wake you up at six in the morning.

Leading Without Losing Your Cool

George

Um, but I don't think that's a great example, but uh I thought it was just a little funny story. Um Nicole, put him in the lift your game. She's actually she's since changed her ways, by the way. She's bang on.

Robby

Yeah, dude. Well, I live, I used I used to live with um a couple of mates, and you'll you'll thisful. I I'm one step further there. Like I'm next level. If you were like that was level four, I'm level six. I'll explain why. I would get bothered when say all the cutlery was used and it all went in the dishwasher and then it goes back in and they're not in the same spots. Meaning, like it went spoons, forks, knives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now it's like and I'm like, hey, hey, what are we doing here? Do you know what I mean? Like burying? You live you're living with cavemen? What's wrong with you? Yeah, it would bother me, dude. I'd be like, why can't we just put the stuff back in there? Like, you know, are you guys that fucking wild? Yeah. Like, come on, man. The knives get on the right. Yeah. Yeah, it's not that hard. And um, yeah, so I I completely uh scratched rims.

George

I can't stand scratch rooms. As in when it happens, yeah. Yeah, that's I used to lose my mind.

Robby

There's no upside to that.

George

No, there's just zero upside, yeah. There's just no nothing. I feel like when I drive my and hey, my missus does it, it's not me. Let's be honest. I feel like when I drive her car, and I'm like, I feel like to this morning we saw I had her car, all right? And I felt like saying to you, hey, those I didn't scratch those rooms. You didn't even see them, you didn't even think about it. You didn't even notice it until this moment. But I feel like telling you before I get out, I did not, just before we start any conversation all the day, I didn't scratch those. Okay, that wasn't me. But here's the thing, I could get angry, and I used to, I used to get real shitty about it. I'd say, what could I do to what could I do so that I'm not angry about that? What's what's the solution to the scratch rooms? Driving lessons. It's like, yes, yes, let's put some brat, let's get her 16-inch ribs with fat rubber on it, like that. That's one solution, yes. But let's just say, really, the solution to it is just get it to accept it. Or just fix it, accept it. Yeah, we're just gonna have scrap. Yeah, don't let it bother me, or we can fix it. And I try and look at that even with my kids now, whenever they do something or there's a mistake, or you know, whatever it might be. Anything that it is, right? She people get upset when you like don't cry over spilt milk. Have you heard of that? You've heard of that saying before? Yeah. It's like, but that's the concept, okay? Because what do you do? All right, oh, we dropped an egg. I say, okay, what's the solution here? Instead of us all getting angry and saying you've dropped an egg, what an idiot, blah, blah, blah. Clean it up. And then go get another egg.

unknown

All right.

George

It's the same thing. So I try and look at it from I try and go, well, what's the fix here? This has annoyed me. What's the fix? If it's a simple fix like that, go get your rims fixed. Okay, it's gonna cost money. Yeah, okay, cool. Go make more money. Oh, it's gonna cost time. Okay, do it on a weekend. Do it when it's a nice sunny day. How lucky are you that you get to go and fix your twenty two inch rims? People would love to have twenty two inch rims that they could scratch. They don't even have those.

Robby

But but that's an easy thing to say. It is in the moment. Everything is okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like it's like when it's not, and it's like, okay, let me. Let me let me paint your picture. So it's like when you let's just say, for example, you're having a a shitty day. Um, you know, things aren't going your way, the contract fell through, yeah, work's quiet, cash flow's tight, Nick's still not doing whatever he's supposed to be doing, Simon's called in sick, that your phone's blowing up, and then on top of all that, you look, and then the room's freshly scratched, and you're like, fuck.

George

Like, do you get what I'm saying? I do, yeah. It's compounds. It just definitely is a thing, right? The same way it works that way, but it also works the other way. And this is a concept we spoke about a little while ago about a winning streak. Okay. The same way you're looking, because you will always look for the opportunities that you're looking for, and also the negative things in your life, too. If you're like, oh, Nick's sick today, Simon's this, and this has happened, and then my rim is scratch, and this and that, and then blah blah blah blah blah blah. You can flip it the other way. And this is where I'm saying it's so powerful that when you're trained, when you're consuming good positive things, books, reading this podcast, any podcast that's positive in nature, um, hanging around good people, you can flip the script really quick, really fucking quick. And it's like, hey, Simon's sick, uh, Nick is not doing what I need him to do, my wife just scratched the rims, um uh my client hasn't paid me. But you know what? This coffee is fantastic. This is probably the best coffee I've had today. Do you think that's unrealistic though? No, I don't, I think it's it's uh the say because all of those things, some of those things are small. You're losing it over something small. So flip the narrative. Hey, this is a great coffee. Hey, do you know what? I'm enjoying having a good chat today. I love I'm enjoying coming in on a Saturday and doing a podcast because my phone's not blowing up. How lucky. Hey, I've got the best phone out in the market. How good's this? Is that is that what you do when you're talking about? I think I try. Yeah, yeah, I do because I've had that period this year. I've had it, sorry, in the last three months. I had a time when we we literally, I don't know what happened in the world. It was like all my clients decided to pay me late that month. All of them. I'm like, guys, like, what's going on? These are these are these are not small amounts of money that are due, and it's not, okay, you can handle one, two here and there, but when you have 15 that aren't paying you all at once, that's a lot of money. And it's like that would happen. And then it's like it compounds, and then and then that's when the person's sick. And then that's when your computer stops working, and that's when your car doesn't start. And all these things come, and it's like you're noticing all the shitty things. Whereas if on a great day like you just had this morning, when you walk in and your computer doesn't start, you're like, oh, okay, I'll just get my laptop. Or okay, I'll go grab, I'll go downstairs on the employee's computer and then I'll get the IT guy to fix it next week. Oh, maybe I need a new computer. So it it just compounds, and I think you've just got to flip the script. And right, and that's where that winning streak mindset comes in. It's like, oh, what a great coffee. I'm on a winning streak. How good is that? Um, yeah, I say my wife's car's scratch uh scratch rooms. Oh, get to drive the car today. How good's that? I'm on a winning streak. Uh and then all of a sudden you're just gonna keep finding all the good things in the day. You're gonna walk outside, it's fresh today, but hey, look at the blue sky. I'm on a winning streak. And I think that's where you can change that narrative, uh, even during difficult days and sort of bringing yourself back. Man, if you've got kids, my my daughter's the best for this. She's she's fucking an angel. She always hugs and and she'll she'll always want to give me a hug, always before bed, when I come home, all that sort of stuff. Hey daddy, how are you? And she gets like real tight hugs. I'm like, man, how can I be complaining about anything in this world right now? So there's little things like that that you can do. So you find things that you can ground yourself with out of that state, because it's not a permanent state. And I promise you, when you're on your deathbed, you're not going to be thinking about that one time when you've got a scratch room, or that day when everyone went against you and had people away sick, and then you were sick, and you don't think about those days.

Robby

Yeah, I I look at it like this. So when I let's just say, for example, I um if I was the guy that flipped out this morning, that to me I use as a like a smoke alarm. That to me says, hey, something's burning. I like that. Do you know what I mean? Like something here is not like this didn't bother you that much. Yeah, you didn't almost die. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like someone tailgating you or someone cutting you off isn't the thing that uh that really bothers you. You know what I mean? And and some because like what you're saying is correct, but sometimes it's in the moment you can't pull yourself out because

Small Triggers And Bad-Day Pileups

Robby

your preference is to have that as the release. Does that make sense? So you're like it's nah, fuck it. I don't want to be happy about this. I want to fucking I want to be angry about him. Like, you know, uh and it's like you your body, you're trying to release a frustration. So you will purposefully not let yourself get out. Like, even if you sat there and said, Hey, come on, man, the sun's shining, it's like that I'd fuck the sun. Fuck the sun, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, and you you purposefully want to keep yourself there. And that to me is the thing that says, Okay, hey, like there's something else underlying here, like there's something wrong, and what is it that's causing me to feel this way because of that action? And how do I there then fix that thing? You know what I mean? And it's it's it's easier said than done, but it's like in the moment, if you can take that thing, because we've all had uh the same thing, like we've all had the same thing happen in a in a in a different context, and it didn't bother you at all. You know what I mean? We've all had the same thing where like everything is is uh you know, sunshine and blue skies, rainbows, green grass, you know, smell of fresh air, someone cuts you off, you're like, it's fine. No, all good. They're like, sorry, you're like, nah no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you know what I mean? Nah, no, come on, like it's all good, you know. And we've like most people have experienced both sides, and it's like, what's the difference? Nothing other than you internally, that's right, you know what I mean, and where you were at and where your headspace was at. And um, I think sometimes changing changing the context of the situation can help. And I read it in this book called uh the book was called Emotional Intelligence. And there's there's two there's two sides to this, right? One is like changing the context of what happened. So it's like, okay, George, you're on the way to work, uh you get cut off. And you fucking hey, you fucking almost killed me. What the fuck? You you might get angry about it, right? Like the guy did this morning. Now, what if you found out that the person who cut you off was actually a a mother who's going through a really hard time at the moment and she was driving because her baby's sick, and when she cut you off, her baby was actually choking in the back, and she was trying to relieve the baby and you know what I mean, switch lanes accidentally. Yeah what I mean? You'd be like, Well, I'm a piece of shit. Fuck, yeah, like oh fuck, I hope the baby's okay. Yeah, right. And it's like all of a sudden, what changed? You still got cut off.

George

Yeah, exactly.

Robby

Or the only thing that changed was you didn't have a piece of context, you didn't know all that information, but had you known it, you'd all of a sudden feel differently, right? Uh and then you can look at it any other way. It's like, okay, do you like uh I I I hate running late. Running late bothers me so much, man. Like, there's nothing worse than you know, like if I've if I've got a meeting and it starts at say 8 a.m. and I'm like stuck somewhere and it's 8.06, like that six minutes for me is hell. Hell I'm like, I need to get out of this. Like um I hate running late. But imagine this, you're running late to a meeting, okay? And you're running late to a meeting and you're like, oh fuck me. Like, I need to get there, you're in traffic. And then you turn onto the freeway and then your car pops a tire. Yep.

unknown

Okay.

Robby

And then it's like all of a sudden the late to the meeting thing is kind of minute. You now got a car problem. Do you know what I mean? And then your car tire pops, you get out, you're standing on the side of the freeway, someone hits your car on the side of the road. Now you're your tire, but that was nothing. Now they fucked the whole car. Do you know what I mean? And now you're fucking running around chaotic. Yeah. You trip over, break your leg. You don't give a fuck about the meeting, about the car, about the tire. Now you're like, my fucking leg's broken, man. Like, I don't give a fuck about anything else in comparison to this. This is the biggest problem I have right now. It's like, fuck, I'd rather be just late for the meeting. Sounding just being late for the meeting sounds like it would be the fucking greatest thing in the world right now. Instead, I'm sitting here with no carb pop tire, broken my leg. Do you know what I mean? And it's like, it's and it's all just context, it's all just perspective. You know, I I've been saying this thing um more recently, and I'm like, we're just floating on a rock. That's all we're doing. I made it. I'm glad you should say that. Yeah, I'm like literally, like shit's going chaotic, and I'm like, it's all good, man. We're just on this fucking rock. Like this rock that's floating in the middle of fucking nowhere. Have you ever zoomed out? Hey, have you ever zoomed out? Like 0.5. I don't know what that means. You know, you do 0.5? You don't know what 0.5 is? Come on, man. Kill off the time. I'm 42. Huh? You know what point five is.

George

You know when you go 0.5? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't know the site. I don't know that. Okay, cool. I know that. Oh, I learned something today. Uh five. I know that's not where you went. Zoom out like on in space. It's phenomenal. When it's like you see Earth and it's like this big, and you can see you compare Empire State Building to Earth, and then you go the moon to the Earth, and then you go the planet to the Earth, and then the Sun to the Earth, and it just keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And you zoom out and you go, This is our solar system. Look how big Earth is. And we are on that dot, on that little dot. And then you zoom out again into the galaxy, and it's like this in this little pocket of galaxy, there are one million solar systems or a billion solar systems, and then you're like, And then there's like all these galaxies. Yeah, it's like we're a speck of dust in that, and we live on that speck of dust. Yeah, and it's like we think that we are the most important thing in the universe, and it doesn't matter, nothing matters there. Um yeah, but okay, let's go. You've broken your leg, right? Now you're in hospital, and let's just say you're single at the time. Now, the nurse could come in, and that could be the love of your life, all right? And you could look at if you're in that mindset of oh, my car, my bleeding, my tire, my this, now my leg. And then this beautiful woman comes in and you look at her and you're like, what's this bitch

The Winning Streak Mindset

George

want now? Seriously, just let me go. Or you could be like, Wow, hi, what's your name? It's like I'm Cindy. Cindy. And then you and Cindy, and you start cracking jokes. Yeah, you won't believe the day I've had Cindy. This happened, and then this happened, and this happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She goes, Sounds like you need a drink. I said, I think so. How about this Friday? And like, bang. And then you just met the love your life. But if you were in that, you know what I mean? If you were in a different state of mind, it could go in a completely different direction. So it this is where a ski uh a trained person, someone that's has that mentality with their having trying to see a positive life.

Robby

You keep seeing a trained person.

George

I do. I just mean someone that's done the reps. Like, I don't go, you don't go to the gym and just become big, and just by walking in the gym, you've got to lift the weights. So go and read books. I think reading books, it's like you're exercising your mind. Like you said the other day, AI is doing everything for us. It's gonna be important. I think it's important to still be exercising your mind with certain things, you know, to read, to, to get some knowledge and become better. Now, that can be through podcasts, it can be through hanging out with right with intellectual people or positive people. I was uh a guy that I'm looking to do some business with, he's he's just a positive bloke. Like we you actually people feel what I've noticed is people gravitate gravitate towards him because he's a got a positive mindset, uh a positive demeanor about himself. He he um like he's ambitious, he's driven, he's trying to do some amazing things, and people are drawn to that. Now, if he was the opposite and saying how bad his industry is and this is crap, and this is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and just focus on all the negative, no one would probably want to be doing business with him. No one would want to be around him and continue the relationship with him. So I I think um that the bad situation, as bad as it might be, you can get yourself out of it. Maybe not straight away, but if you have some level of awareness, I think you can.

Robby

Yeah, and I think the um you know, like the the flipping out in the car is the thing that brings you awareness. Because when you when it happens slowly, slowly, you don't notice it. Do you know what I mean? And then the thing, okay. You've you've heard the frog in the boiling water concept. Yeah, yeah. So like if you put a frog in a uh pot of water and it's a cold water, it'll stay in the water. If you throw it into boiling water, it'll hop straight out. Yeah, if you put it in the cold water and then you slowly start to boil it, it won't notice, and then next thing you know, it's a bold frog.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Robby

I think that happens with humans as well. And I think using these moments, so like the the flipping, and it if it might show up differently in your life. For this person, I believe. Imagine this person listens to the podcast and like, oh, that was me. That was me. Reach out. Uh uh if for this person that I'm referring to, it showed up in flipping out road rage. Uh for other people, it might show up with the way you're showing up at work or at home or with your family or in your relationships or how you're you know spending money or whatever it is, like you know what I mean. You all these things are like you trying to numb something in a particular way, and they are signals of how you really feel. And I believe the the boiling uh water analogy is relevant to humans as well, because like you know, it doesn't just go from zero to hero, it's like all of a sudden you find yourself like I'm not feeling great, like all of a sudden, you know, I'm just fucking always agitated. It's like, well, what is it? You know what I mean? So that you you gotta use these moments as the the thing that brings you back and reminds you, because like we're not all fully aware 100% of the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

Robby

I agree. Do you know what I mean? We live so much in our own little worlds, dude. You walked past me the other day and didn't see me.

George

That's so funny. I was so good.

Robby

You I'm literally on the street, so involved in his phone call that he walked right past me. If I extended my arm, it would have hit him, and he did not see me. Didn't see him. And um, but that's how much we live in our own little in our own little bubble.

George

It's the most important thing in the world to us. Yeah, yeah. And it's like that's like and that's with every and if you can understand that about other people too, that's a powerful tool. Because like you you didn't get upset over that, you laughed. No, like but if you like if you did, oh god, what a rude guy. I can't believe I've been working with him for the last five years. See him every single time. Doesn't want to know me in public, doesn't even want, yeah, just pretend he doesn't know me. Like, you could have made that something in your mind if you were having a shit day. Everything was should have. We'd be having a proper fight on the podcast. So it's like, yeah, if you were having a shit day, you're like, oh great, and now George doesn't even speak to me anymore. Yeah, he's clearly an arse. I thought he was a good guy, and then you build something up to think to be what it is, and I'm just like, hey, I didn't even see you. I was in my own conversation and whatever it was and all that sort of crap. People have their own shit going on, yeah.

Robby

100%. And I think you need to use those moments as the thing that allows you to have that mental check-in.

George

Yeah, and I think you gotta you gotta allow as in understand these days are gonna happen. You're not, as you said, you're not Gandhi, you're not gonna be the most positive person.

Robby

No, you're not 100% enlightened.

George

Yeah, that's right all the time.

Robby

Everything is fine.

George

So accept it. In if you're gonna have 30 days in a month, accept that two of those days might be shitty or might be less positive than the other ones. Something's gonna happen there that's not gonna be your inner peace and balance for the whole month. There's gonna be difficult times, difficult conversations, difficult periods where you might even be shitty, you might even lose your temper. But the idea is that you ground yourself back to where you need to be.

Robby

Yeah, Paul Moosey shares that example um of the bottom 10% day. That's right. And I think that it was one of the most profound things I've ever heard him say. I thought it was great too. Yeah, he's like, Do you expect to enjoy your bottom 10% days? And you're like, nah, like that makes sense. Like if you're thinking about the worst 10% days, it's like then I'm not gonna enjoy them. Yeah, it's like cool, you're gonna have 36 of those a year. Yeah, a year. Yeah. So you're like, you know, I've got three a month. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. Like just fucking it's just that day. That's it. And you don't have to go and re-dig it. You don't have to relive, but you don't have to relive that day after it's over either.

George

No, you just gotta say, okay, here's where the the I think the biggest issue is people make those 10%, they make it 25-30%. They turn it into that. So it's a 10% day, but then they prolong it with how they approach things, with the shit on the freeway. They prolong those 10 days when they're not actually bad.

Robby

Do you so you're saying people hold on to stuff? Yeah. Why?

George

I don't think they know any better. I don't think that in their my state of mind and where they're at, they don't know any better. They're agitated, they lean into it. I think it's easy to get angry. It's easier to be upset, like, and depressed and sad and all that sort of shit. I think it's easier to do that than not to be.

Robby

Yeah, but so there's there's two sides to this. I think one, I I

Perspective And Emotional Intelligence

Robby

learned this from Tony Robbins and he talks about um your emotional home. You know, he's like, we all have our emotional home. He he shares this uh story where he talks about how uh people that live in areas that are like a very cyclone, like say, for example, like far north Queensland, right? If you're from far north Queensland, you're listening to this, let us know. Um, but it's like those areas are very hurricane cyclone. I'm pretty sure like in Port Douglas, I've heard, I don't know for sure, but I've heard like they've got to tape up the windows during cyclone season. Yeah, right. Like they put a they put an X on the window so it doesn't shatter. Um and it's like, okay, these people, that's their home. And what happens? Like a cyclone comes in, or a hurricane comes in, or some sort of natural disaster comes in, tears the whole place down, they leave while it's happening, and then as soon as it's gone, what do they do? They come back and they rebuild. He's like, why? Because that's their home. He's like, as humans, you have chosen for whatever reason, when you're a kid or something, like you've chosen what your emotional home is going to be. For whatever reason, you were rewarded for it, you got upset as a kid, and then you know, everyone gave you what you wanted, and you you learnt, oh, like when I get sad, I get what I want, or whatever behavior that is. When I was happy, my life was better, or blah blah blah. You know, everyone's different based on your experiences, but that becomes your emotional home, and you will always go back there by default, unconsciously. You know what I mean? And it's like you need to understand that. And then if you're if you're not happy with what that emotional home is, for some people it's like anger, like anger's their driving emotion. For some people, it's sadness, you know, it's the feeling of uh like helplessness. It's like cool, like you know, every time I've I've you know gone into my helplessness state, someone's come in and done it for me. So, like whenever I just get stuck, and that this is not then it's not conscious thinking. They don't say, hey, I'm stuck, I'm gonna sit here and be helpless, and someone's gonna help me. It's just by default, they go back into that state, and that's what they've unconsciously learned, right? When you when you walk, you don't think, hey, Robbie, right foot first. Yeah, like you just fucking walk. This is the same sort of concept, you just go there, you know what I mean?

George

Yeah, your subconscious takes you there.

Robby

Yeah, and uh I think having an understanding of that and understanding, oh, like you know, I always feel like this. And it's like when you understand that this is where I might unconsciously be driving myself, you can then do something about it because like you need to be aware of what it is before you can do anything about it, right? Uh, and that concept really um changed me. And then the other one was like Gary V talks about uh because you you just shared it's like, oh okay, the person holds on to things, or they and I think one of the best ways to let things go is um it's like empathy, it's like you know, that guy I could have I could have got angry about that guy getting angry this morning. I could have been like, hey man, what a fucking idiot. You know what I mean? You slowed down, you're a fuck we blah blah blah, and absolutely went off my chops. Yeah, I could have. Yeah. Instead, I looked at him and I thought, ah, poor bugger.

George

Like, you know, he's not enjoying this morning. Very true, very true. It's a great way to look at it, and it just reframes everything. And I think, you know, you mentioned to me this last night, actually, one of our videos on Million Dollar Days Instagram page blew up.

Robby

Yeah.

George

But are you getting a lot of negative comments on what we had spoken about in that clip? And you're like, it's funny, your missus, you were gonna send it to me. Like you're ready, you did send it to me. And your missus is like, no, no, don't send it to him, you'll ruin his night. Yeah. It's like, ruin his night. I was like, I'm gonna make his gonna be so happy. This is the greatest thing. And it's like, I'll see those negative comments on there. And I was doing most of the talking in this clip. So most of them were directed to me. And you're seeing stuff like people calling me a clown, can't beat up a blowfly. I'm saying a whole range of things. So for context as well, I'm talking about a client that got in my face many, many years ago and starting to be last or two. It was a couple of episodes ago, but the the incident happened many years ago. Um, and it was the only time I've ever bitten back at a client and said, if you get in my face again, if you put your finger in my face again, I'm gonna break it. Like, don't fucking come near me. I'm gonna see it as an act of aggression, right? And it was like anyway, got blown up uh that scenario, but then also in the video, and it's like I'm looking at all these people leaving these comments, they they don't understand the situation, they don't understand the timing, they don't understand the conversation in as a whole because it was a 30-second clip of an hour and a half episode, and they're coming on there and commenting about me to bring me down to feel better about themselves. Like, I feel like, are you all right, man? Do you want to do you need a hug? Like, I don't I don't feel uh angry at those people, I don't feel resentment towards them. It's like I feel empathy. Like, well, man, if you have enough time to stop what you're doing in your life, watch a 30-second clip, and then on top of that, go into the comment section and write, you're a fucking flog, and then go on to the next post, and your shit's broken.

Robby

Yeah, I think Gary V actually talks about that as well. He's like, So he goes, so there's a million things about me. He goes, You watch a 30-second clip and you're gonna make your judge on me. He's like, You don't know me.

George

Yeah, like you're not even gonna be like, And why wouldn't he? That's why he doesn't get upset over that. And that was a massive thing for me when I started to create content. Is I don't I don't care about what people say, all right. Unless, like, if you're gonna go and be real specific about, say, people I care about, or if you're gonna go and say something just inappropriate, racist or derogatory, whatever it might be, then okay, then I'll delete the comment. I'll probably block you so we don't spend money on ads on you. So there'll be uh aspects of that. But ultimately, again, I still look at you and go, man, your shit's broken. Like it it's and and it's funny, ever since we ran ads, or ever since since we've been running ads over the last three years, four years for our events and whatnot, you do see a lot of that. You know how many people would comment on an ad that we run in a negative way, saying, Well, you don't know what you're talking about, you're you're a shit builder, you're this, you're this.

Robby

It's it's it's like it's it's comical. I saw a comment on one of my ads the other day, and the guy goes, I wish this guy had one clue about what he was talking about. And I'm talking about talking to a room full of a hundred builders, and I'm like, Oh, about you. I just replied saying lol. Yeah. Like, like that's funny. Yeah, I think it's it's hilarious. Yeah.

George

The fact that you went out of your way to comment. No, exactly right. And they don't understand, like, little do they know that you've toured Australia for the last three, four years and spoken in front of thousands of builders about this exact topic, and they've then taken you up on whatever you're talking about, and you've got them the results. And so, why are you gonna get upset over that? Why is that gonna ruin your day now? And if you can take that whole comment approach with social media, for example, and then apply that to the rest of your life. Like, as we said, this guy's like, oh man, he's must be in a rush to get somewhere. I better get out of his way, you know. Or maybe, you know, maybe, and it looks a context. This guy was doing 150 on the freeway. Maybe he had to get to the hospital because his mum was dying.

Robby

Oh, yeah, or maybe his missus was having a kid in the back or something.

George

And then this guy's in the in there blocking him from going 80, and then look okay, granted, the guy slowed down and started to abuse him, but let you don't know the whole concept behind that. Well, maybe that, as I said, straw that broken camel's back. I'm trying to get to see my mum, and you're trying to stop me, and you're a dickhead and and really giving it to him, and then he speeds off again. You know, who knows?

Robby

And there's also um, you know, sometimes like that was what I saw this morning. Sometimes that gets blown away out of proportion. It's like cool, they they get out and they start fighting, or or worse. Seen that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People get out of the car, yeah, yeah. And it's like, man, like this is why because he cut you off, yeah. Because he wasn't going as fast as you'd like, because he was a bit closer to you than you'd like.

George

So silly. You know, when I see that, that's just ridiculous. When people start to get out of the car, it's out of control. It is, it's then then it's that next level. When people can get out of the car because they slam the brakes or whatever it might be and start punching on. I'm like, man, so ridiculous.

Robby

That's the world we live in though, bro.

George

Great entertainment, but uh so ridiculous.

Empathy For Angry People Online

Robby

Okay, so for someone listening who might be like, you know what, fuck, I do fucking I do, you know, I get home and I'm not showing up the way I want to be, or I'm finding that, you know, I crack the shits on the road, or I'm flipping out of my kids, or my missus, or my husband, or my um, you know, parents, family, relationships, workers, employees, subcontractors, you know what I mean? Um what what did that person do? Like what you know? Okay, cool.

George

Like there's all these I don't think I don't think everything you've done to date isn't working. That's the first thing. Understand that. Yeah. So you're not gonna fix this by thinking about fixing it. Do you know what I mean? There's I can't remember who said this. It's like oh actually, I think it was um Chris Williams. Williamson. Williamson. We always get that wrong.

Robby

It's because of your stupid Yeah, Willex or whatever.

George

Get your shit together, Chris.

Robby

Have you been watching Modern Muslim?

George

I listened to an episode the other day, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You listen to it? Yeah, I I when I go for a walk with the dog, I listen to it, I don't watch him. On um uh Apple Podcasts or wow, okay.

Robby

I don't yeah, fair enough.

George

Yeah, I actually listen to him. So don't I don't that's a guy that puts a lot of effort into production on video. That oh I was just about to say that. That's what I was gonna ask to tell you about. Do you know how many cameras he has? No. On no seven. Uh and he goes, he used to have three, and he goes, we used to have five, and he goes, now we have seven. And he goes, look at this. He goes, because of these shots that we can take. Yeah. So I'm upset that we only have two cameras in here today. Uh he speak to the team at Legacy Media, get them to put some more cameras up, get a few more angles of us.

Robby

The I've thought about it, but it's like it's a lot of work.

George

Oh, it's a lot of work. A lot of work. We're not there yet. Hey, we get a few more sponsors on board. We can take it from there.

Robby

Diary of a CEO has nine. Oh, yeah, there you go.

George

And it's definitely, it's definitely a visual thing, 100%. Like there's there'd be science behind the retaining of people by changing the camera angles uh constantly throughout the conversation. There would be for sure. For sure, for sure.

Robby

Yeah. Nine's a lot. Yeah. Like nine is like, what do you have? Three we'd have three, yeah, at the most. Three, three on two people, and then three on each person.

George

Yeah.

Robby

Like that's a lot of angles.

George

I think it would just be up, low, left, and like you'd probably have one directly behind, you know, just all different or other side as well. So it'd probably almost be 360 to a degree. No, you can't do other side.

Robby

Why not? Come on. Because then the camera sees it. No, that's all right.

George

Um green screen.

Robby

Yeah, but like, yeah, that's a lot.

George

Yeah, so where would people start? I don't think oh, so that's the saying is it's like um people who have a mental issue trying to get better. Um no, sorry, sniffing your way out of a drug problem is the same as trying to think your way out of a mental problem. So I don't think you can do that by yourself. And he was alluding to go to the gym, get fit, get healthy before you start working on your mental capacity, because that'll help you get on that path and that trajectory. But let's just say you're not that bad. I think reading some books and listening to some podcasts is a great place to start. There's a book called Ikigai. Have you read that?

Robby

Yeah.

George

I mean, it's not an amazing book, didn't change my life or anything, but there's some really good concepts behind it, and it does show that so Ikigai, for those of you that don't know, it's about uh blue zones in the world where people live the longest and what those what the culture's like, what people are like, what they do, what they do. And there's this um city in Japan called Okinawa, and it's the big it's the longest living blue zone in the world, more than anywhere else. It's a what uh so the common traits of the people in that area, why they live to be so I think the the average death I'm gonna I'm gonna been a while since we read it.

Robby

Oh, dude, I read it like seven, eight years ago. It's in the hundreds, I think. I think it's like it's like 120 or something. Oh, that's a lot. Yeah, or it's like 117. I remember the concept of when someone came and the person that came was like 91. They were like, Oh, you're so young. You're so young. Yeah, and I remember thinking, what the fuck? 91? Like there was a whole bunch of reasons why isn't that wild? Because like we see 91, like someone passed someone past at 91. You're like, good wicket. Good wicket. Yeah, well done. Yeah, and they're like, 91, you're so young. So young, got so many more years to go. You got another life to you. You got another 20, 30 years ahead of you.

George

Imagine that, man. Imagine that. That would be full on. That'd be hectic.

Robby

Considering, like, yeah, that's that's you would you would be so different.

George

Yeah, man. Like at that point in life, we are wise ninja, just knowledge ninja just sitting there with my cane. A big Gandhi. Yeah, you'd be floating and everything. Yeah. So uh one of the concepts is uh there are a few, but it's the stress level and just the calmness about them and how they live their life, and they're not getting upset over all these little things. And you know, you can take a lot from books like this, and you can start making little changes in your own life. Okay, you don't have to go and live on a remote island in a remote city in Japan and the yeah, the stress levels for them and like how they were um how they took like the happiness levels, their um the way they approached problems and issues and all that sort of stuff. Like they weren't gonna let things really bother them as much as it, but their lifestyle also led to that too. They had a lot of purpose. They spoke about being they never retire.

Robby

Community. Yeah, the community was another one.

George

So one thing is they actually never retire. So they always they allowed. If you're a cobbler, for example, like in your profession, they continue to repair shoes up until 120 years old. Yeah, as much as they can. Not because of I want to do this to make money, but this is a purpose for me to fulfill in my years. Now, I used to repair 30 shoes a day. Now I might repair one a week.

Robby

Yeah.

George

But that one a week I do gives me so much purpose and it's the best and it's this, and I give it to that person and I don't even charge them for it. So there's a whole range of things that you can do. But I would start if I was in that, if I feel like I'm in that bad space, is start to look at some books, some podcasts, hang around people because people can be a huge influence too. If you're around your mates and all they're doing on the on a Saturday night is getting absolutely smashed, or drinking, smoking, um, drugs, whatever it might be, or you're just around them and you're having a couple of drinks and it's like, hey man, how was your week? Oh, dude. Seriously, I hate my job. I hate my job. I hate my fucking life. I can't believe I'm I'm here. You know, where are the days when we just used to go out partying and go to the Greek islands and go on holidays and just hook up with chicks. Now I've got to go home. I've got my kids are sick, my wife's a mole. Like I just, you know what I mean? And if you're hanging around that all the time, then that's what you're gonna become as well. So who are you hanging around with? You really need to audit your circle. And maybe it's at work. Maybe you're hanging around the worst people at work because you're with them more than you are your family sometimes. Maybe you hate your job, and that's what's making you miserable. Maybe you then need to go, well, shit, if this is where I'm gonna be, if this is where it's at, I need a change of scene. I need to go and work at another company. You can still stay in the same industry if you want. Or maybe you hate the industry. You go, I gotta get out. My my missus used to work in property management. She hated it, hated it. She hated the company she worked for, and then as a result, she didn't like the industry either. And it's for her to get back into the industry now, into work, of course. She doesn't want to go and work in property management again. She goes, that would be the worst. Couldn't think of anything worse. So, okay, great, change your environment. Go and work in wherever. Car dealership. I think like do something else else that's going to bring you a change of scene. So you have to have a little bit of self-awareness to snap out of it and go, well, what needs to change in my life? What am I actually really sad about? What I what don't I like? Am I waking up in the morning? I'm like, oh, cannot be, I cannot wait for Friday. I live for Friday. Gary V was massive on that. Because if you're living for Friday night, so you can go out, and so it's a weekend, so you have two days away from the place that you're at five days a week, your shit's broken.

Change Your Inputs And Your Circle

Robby

And he was one of the first people to vocally go out there and say that. And he he he hit the nail on the head.

George

He did very much so.

Robby

You know what I mean?

George

Um, yeah, and I I also think I'd love to get Gary on this show. Yeah. Next time he's in Australia, I'm gonna shoot out. Let me shoot him a text. Say guys. Oh freak if he can't. It'd be so cool, man. Huh? It'd be so cool. He'd be the type that would come on a show like this as well.

Robby

Yeah, he he you know, you want to talk about people that do it for the love of the game.

George

That's why he would do it. Because he would love to see that he goes, What? He goes, You've done this for a hundred and two hundred episodes. What? This is your thousandth episode, and you haven't missed a week. 100% I'm coming on.

Robby

He he's yeah, he's one of the people who just loves the game. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, um, does it for the love of the game, and or or at least that's the perception he's painted.

George

Iconically, do you know what? He's been too consistent for too long, for too long, for that not to be his MO.

Robby

Yeah, I've also never heard anyone be like the only negative things I've ever heard about him was people be like, he's a lot. It's like, yeah, he is, like he is, but that's who he is. Most most people but no one ever says, like, oh, he's not. You know how you hear about other people? It's like, oh, they're not who they're not who you think they are, like they're not who they portray themselves.

George

Yeah, well, I've even heard people say, like, Gary, you always say the same thing. Like, you don't change your tone. It's like, yeah, because it's it works. Like, why would I make something else up just to sound different? Because this is the game, this is what works, and this is what we have to talk about. Yeah, he's um cool dude.

Robby

Yeah, cool dude. But yeah, so I think changing your environment is one of the it's probably the biggest thing you can do. Um, what I like to do is if I'm like in that space, it's like, all right, like what's like just for a moment, close your eyes and just be like, what's if what would make me feel better right now? Like, you know what I mean? What's the one thing? Huh? Like what's the one thing that would make me feel better right now? You know, there is a uh when I was in real estate, they introduced us to uh uh this coach, his name was uh Dr. Fred Gross. I I might have completely mispronounced it, but he's got a book called uh The The Ninja of the Mind or The Black Belt of the Mind or something like that. And he he shares these concepts, and these are these are all tools, right? Like if you don't do anything with anything share, it doesn't do anything, but he shares these concepts, and uh this is I think you'll like this. I don't know if I've ever shared this with you. Uh and he shares this concept and he goes Okay, they they got this thing called tens, twenty-fives, fifties, and hundreds. Okay, and he goes, What he wants you to do is he goes, your goal is what what can we do every day to make every day a 10 out of 10? Okay, he goes, and your tens, twenty-fives, fifties, and hundreds are the things that will make your day better. He goes, So take some time and write down tens are the things you could do on a daily basis that make your day better. So, like, you know, I like to exercise like stuff you like, not he says, do you don't have to justify it? Yeah, hey, I like a glass of wine, cool, put it there. I like to have a beer, put it there. I like chocolate, put it there. I like to go for a walk, put it there. I like sunsets, put it there. The stuff you can do on a daily basis, and then he's like, then there's 25s, which is the stuff you can do, you know, once every now and again, maybe once a fortnight. So, like, I like to go fishing, I like to go camping, I like to, blah, blah, blah. And then he's like, 50s, I like the the holidays that, you know, I want to go to Europe, I want to go to Greece. And then hundreds is like the I want to go to Greece first class, blah, blah, blah. The big, the fucking, you know what I mean? He's like, and this becomes your arsenal of tools. He goes in every day, have a check-in and be like, all right, what's today? Today's a six. All right, what would make it a 10? And then look at that thing and be like, all right, you know what? I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna go for a walk, I'm gonna go see the sun because I know I like that, and I'm gonna watch the sun set, I'm gonna spend some time with my missus or my kids or my family, I'm gonna go see my mum, and that would make this day much better. And it's like, and you got this thing, or you know what? Fuck it, I I haven't been fishing, I'm gonna plan that trip for this weekend because this day is fucked. Do you know what I mean? And like you kind of like lock that thing in, and then it's like, okay, cool. Like I I I improved this day. And doesn't mean every single day you're gonna get to a 10 out of 10.

George

Yeah, but you you might get it to an eight when it was a six.

Robby

Yeah, 100%. Do you know what I mean? And it's like, cool, man. Like, I've got this arsenal of tools that are for me, you know, that I can pull from when

Building A Personal Reset Toolkit

Robby

I'm not having a great day. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, cool, I'm not having a great day for whatever reason. We can fix that later, but like right now, it's like, what's the thing that's gonna fix me now? Because you're not gonna fix the day while you're shitty. You know what I mean? You're not gonna fix your life while you're in a bad mood. It's like getting yourself out of that state, um, you know, and ideally don't have anything in there that's harmful to you. Like, you know, I want to do crack. Like, don't put that on there. Um, but have stuff that's that's gonna allow you to have a list of things that you can pull from every single time. Be like, cool man, like you know, I know that when I go for a walk or when I have a stretch or when I see the kids or when I play with my dog or whatever it is, and it's like okay, shit day, where's my list? Because you won't think about it in the spot. You're not gonna be like you gotta have this thing there so you can pull from it because those things won't come to your mind. Because what does our mind do? It goes to like if everything's shit, what do we start to notice? Everything's fucking going wrong. It's like cool, have the thing, the external thing that you can lean on that you can pull from every single time.

George

Why do you think that's a go-to? As in why the the default is a negative thing for most people, for almost everyone, actually. Survival. Yeah, that's right. That's what I think too. It's a biological thing.

Robby

Yeah, 100%, dude. Your brain is not hardwired to make you happy, it's hardwired to make you survive. Yeah, you know what I mean? We're constantly looking out for the next thing that's gonna harm us. That's right. Do you know what I mean?

George

Yeah, so if you have to attack something so it doesn't harm you, that's what you gotta do.

Robby

Yeah, and that's why that's why they say um uh women are actually more negative than men because they like especially around kids and stuff, because they care so much, and it's like they are wired to make sure that their baby stays alive, yeah. And that's why they're like, no, no, don't let them do that, no, no, don't let them do that, and the dad's always like nah, do you know what I mean?

George

It's not because it's because they're stereotypical now, but uh, but yes, uh sorry, as in very generic um comment, blanket comment, but very true.

Robby

Yeah, it's very true. Yeah, it's because women like genuinely care more about the kid, right? And they're trying to they're trying to protect their being, you know what I mean? And it's like the protection of the being and keeping it alive tends to have a log a lot of negative forces. It's why they say women are again, blanker comment, but uh inherently more unhappy than men. Yeah, right. Do you know what I mean? Because yeah, well, this was Jordan P. Peterson quoted. Yeah, and he's like be it's it's the nature of life because they are more focused on keeping the kids alive and and then they are always looking out for more danger, just the way they're they're wired mentally.

George

Yeah, that's right. You know what I mean? Although those those risks aren't necessarily there anymore. That's right. They're still hardwired that way, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Whereas we're not definitely a thing. It's definitely a thing. I mean, uh, you look at so many aspects of life, and even from a fitness point of view, people like life's easy. We need just we're hungry, we go to Kohl's, we go, we get Uber, we get pizza, we do whatever we want. We don't have to go and hunt for food anymore. We're not um we're not required to get take more effort. It's easy for us to go down the path of least resistance now. Also, it's very rare that like you go outside and get eaten by something. No, that's the other thing. You don't have to be fit so you can run away. Yeah, you know, like you to to be able to hide or be strong to defend yourself. You don't have to do that thing. That's why you're seeing frail people.

Robby

You don't have to walk outside and be like, there's no animals. Yeah. Like, all right, cool, man. Oh, that's good. Yeah, and maybe I'll walk to work today. Yeah. You don't have to worry about that. You kind of walk out, you're still half asleep, and you jump in your car. You haven't paid attention to anything on the way to the car.

George

Nothing.

Robby

Yeah, but that's that's the life that we live in. It's become a scale.

George

And then I think that's why to win in this game and life and fitness and everything, that's why you've got to do these little things. And you you just don't know what you don't know. And I reckon once you like it was a bit of an epiphany for me when I started to think like that and act like that, that I saw a huge change in my life. Huge. And before that, like it's like I didn't know what I didn't know. I didn't know that I was unhealthy and not fit and not strong. I didn't know that I wasn't the best leader at work and the best um person to be around. I didn't know that I wasn't the greatest father or the greatest husband or anything like that. And it's like, well, once I started to uncover those elements of my life, I'm like, oh, this is what it's like. This is what it can be. This is all I have to do. It's not even that hard. It's not that hard. And I'm like, once I put those things into place, I was like, well, this is this is a game changer. I'm gonna beat everyone. It's a roadmap, it's a roadmap to doing everything that you want and everything you want to achieve.

Robby

Yeah. I I think a really good book that this was actually the third book I ever read that was recommended to me by my first ever coach. And it was c it's called Mindset by Carol Dweck. And it the purpose of the book, I believe, is to it it talks about, you know, growth mindset versus. Uh fixed. That's the whole that whole concept, growth was fixed. Anyone you've ever heard share that concept with you comes from this book. This is where it originated from. And you know, the idea is like to transform your thinking. You know, get you looking at things just a little bit differently. Because uh your perception is your reality.

George

Very true.

Robby

Yeah, I mean, and if you go out every morning and you think everything's fucked and you're upset and you you you know you get angry at the person that cuts you off, yeah, exactly what it's like. You're gonna live that life. You don't you don't fuck, there's a sick thing. Okay, I'm gonna screw it up. But there's a sick thing Tony Robbins says is like you don't live your reality, you live the perception of your reality. You know what I mean? And it's like something like that. And it's like you're living how you see your life, not you know, not what your life actually is. Yeah, you're living your perception of it, yeah, and you control your perception, and that's the best part, and that's why you can choose to say, cool, man, like today's a great day and the sun's out and the shadows.

George

There's so many aspects of your life, if you're listening to this now, that other people would die to have. So many. And I think that's uh something that's always grounded me too, you know. And it's again, it's harder to think about those things because it's easier to think about what you don't have than rather than what you're doing.

Robby

Yeah, but so do you know what good practice is? Good practice is thinking about those things not just when you need them.

George

Yes, yeah, you know what I mean.

Robby

Like it's like think about those things not just when you need them, so that when you need them, the neural pathway is is built. That's right. Make that connection already. It's much easier. I already won the lottery. That's right. I already won the lottery, dude. Like, hey, if you're if you're listening to this and you're in Australia, you won the lottery.

George

Like that is what's going on in Spain at the moment? Do you see that? I I've seen headlines, I haven't looked into it. I only watched the I saw it last night briefly, but I was out, and then I saw it again this morning. Yeah, just mass people literally invading the country.

Robby

People in Spain?

George

Yeah, from coming from Africa or wherever it was, just upon the tens of thousands, dude, just literally swimming in the ocean and just coming into the shores and they're just running in.

Robby

Are you serious?

George

Yeah, all military grade men, military, military aged men. Military aged 18 to 30. Yeah, 18 to 30 or whatever it is, just like droves of men from here. Yeah, that's it. From where? I think it's from Africa or something like that. I don't know where they how they came there, from a boat, whatever it was, but if you look at it, it's into Spain. Into Spain. And there's no and the the whole concept about it is it's like they're filming it, and they're like, hang on, if this is mass migration or you know, they're coming from war-torn countries, where are the women and children? Why is it only men 18 to 30? This is an invasion, and again, the Spanish government's doing nothing about it. Like you would should have the army there just literally putting them into camps, but they're not doing that. Anyways, interesting to see. That's wild. It was wild, yeah.

Robby

Um, well, that's not happening here.

George

No, exactly. Exactly. It's not happening here. They say it is happening, but it's just legal. That's all they're doing it down a different path, but that's a topic for another time. Just ask Pauline Hansen about that one.

Robby

Yeah, we get her on. We get her on. Um, but yeah, change your mindset uh change your life, I think.

George

So true. So true. I I've seen it firsthand. I've seen it firsthand. Me too. You know, and it's like I'm at a point in my life now where I've been in business and I've had a family. Um I've got some years on my shoulders, you know. I've got some runs on the board. And I look at opportunities that are presenting themselves to me today because I could very easily feel very sorry for myself because I've worked very hard over the last, say, 10 years in business, 20 years in construction. I've worked very, very hard. I could very easily sit back and go, how come this hasn't happened for me yet? How come I don't have this? Why don't I have that? Why aren't I at this level yet? Why aren't I flying first class? Why don't I have the yacht yet? Why don't I have all these things that I thought I would have at this age? Why don't I have? I could sit there and be very sorry for myself. Instead, I'm still looking for opportunities. I'm still trying to grind. I'm still seeing the positive and going, wow, look how far I've come. Look how far I've come in 10 years. Look at the experience I've had in 10 years of being in business and the things I get to work with and the people I've gotten to work with, good and bad. I'm very grateful for the bad people that I've worked with because they will make me better in the future. And as a result of that, having that mindset today, it presents other opportunities that I would never have been looking for if I was sitting there and saying, woe is me. Like I'm talking some amazing fucking opportunities that this, the opportunity that will may or may not come to fruition on this podcast in the near future, it could be life-changing for myself. It could be, I could look back at this time moment in my life and go, at that time when I made that decision to do this thing with that person, that's what got me where I am today. That's what got me the Porsche, that's what got me the cows, that's what got me the holiday house, that's what got me the jet, that's what got me all these things, that decision at that moment. But me, everything back here in my past, if I always looked at it and said, well, industry's fucked, can't make a dollar. Some people pay me, some people don't. My employees suck. Life's, it's hard having kids. Don't have any more kids. I had two or too many, you know, uh, missus bust my balls all the time. If I had that mindset, you'd

Extreme Responsibility Creates Freedom

George

never be looking for that opportunity. That opportunity would never present itself, nor would you grab it because you wouldn't be looking for it, it wouldn't exist. And then you're just gonna always be a victim. And that's something I've never wanted to do. I've never wanted to be a victim. I've never wanted to be poor George. No, no, fuck it. George is doing everything. This is all my fault. Everything. All the good is my fault, all the bad is my fault. Everything is my fault. And I think that was a powerful concept that I learned. I can't remember who it was. About taking extreme responsibility. Um was it?

Robby

I don't know. Everyone says that.

George

Yeah, I I can't remember who where I got it. Jocko's book is called Extreme Responsibility. Yeah, it might it might be some it might have even been him. It's like, man, the car the something like that. The car crash in the morning that made you late for work, that is completely your fault. Because if you left to go to work 15 minutes earlier, you would have avoided that car crash that happened that you weren't even involved in, but just caused heaps of traffic. So if you'd left 15 minutes earlier, so if that's the case, then it's in your control to have avoided that. Extreme, yes, I get it. Your fault or your problem? Both. It's your pro you're in the you've got the problem once it's there, and it's your fault because you didn't take the action to change your trajectory. Because if you had left at 6 a.m. in the morning to get to work for the job that you start at 7 to get there at 6.30, you you win the day every single day. And people are like, oh no, then the work gets half an hour earlier out of you. Just go sit there and read the paper, if that's what people do now. You know, scroll on social media, do whatever you want to do until you start work at 7 if you want, or just start a bit earlier. Maybe you get to leave a bit earlier and avoid traffic on the way home too. Maybe you can negotiate that with your that with your boss. Just tell me if you had an employee right now and said to you, what time do you a guy start work? 8 30. All right, if he said, Hey Robbie, do you mind if I start and what time do I finish? Six. Six. Cool. Do you mind if I start work at seven, can I leave at 4:30? I've put it to them. Yeah, like, but you would you care?

Robby

No. Exactly. You'd be like, no, man. Yeah, I think I think there's got to be within reason. Like if they said, Hey, can I do my eight hours from midnight to eight a.m., I'd be like, no.

George

No, no, because that's not business operations. But people are operating within those times. You know, and I I would look at it from the perspective of in your case, yes, some of your clients may not be operating at seven in the morning. Actually, a lot would be because you're in construction. But also, he'll probably get some deep work done between seven and eight thirty because not many people are gonna bother him. So he might be even more productive during that time. And then he gets to come home, come to work early, avoid all the traffic, get home early and avoid all the traffic, and he's happy both ways.

Robby

That's what I'm I'm gonna start doing that. It's great. I'm gonna start leaving at four.

George

Yeah, it's a it's a massive. Oh, you were doing that for a little while though, anyway. You start you were in the office at like five.

Robby

Yeah, but then I was like, I was finding it too difficult to go to the gym in the middle of the day. Oh, well, yeah, I wouldn't go. Yeah, me too. I'll just get caught up, and then I'm like, okay, I can't like this is great if your business is super mature and you have you are not involved in any of the week-to-week operations or day-to-day operations of the business. But if you are, like you can get very easily sucked in. That's what I found happened to me. So I was like, okay, cool. Like, and then like now I'm back to training in the mornings. Yeah. It's just okay, let me get my gym session out of the way, and then I can sit down and and lock in and yeah. It just doesn't work. Yeah. It didn't work for me.

George

Yeah. I used to do that before I lived 500 metres from the office. I used to do that when I had an office in Hawthorne. And I used to be up real early, get up at, you know, I'd leave home at six, so I'd be at the office at 6 30. So I'd never had any traffic in the morning. It took me 15 minutes to get home in the morning. Uh uh, sorry, to get to work in the morning. But then at night time I would leave at five and it would take me 45 minutes to an hour because the traffic was just yeah, five o'clock is the worst. Yeah, it was chaotic at that time. Really, I should have just gotten to work even earlier and just left at four and not had that traffic, but that's fine. Um regardless, it's uh taking control, you know, taking control of your life, taking control of all the aspects, and everything is your fault, everything is your responsibility. And when you start to think like that, that's when shit becomes a lot easier.

Robby

I don't know about easier, but I think better.

George

Well, sometimes, yeah, better, but it can be easier too, because it's like something that was you found difficult to even handle is now easier to handle. But yeah, I agree, better.

Robby

Yeah, in the sense of it it gives you a level of uh power or control.

George

Power. I like yes, it gives you power and and even freedom too.

Robby

It's like you're relinquishing you're relinquishing control when you blame something else.

George

Yeah, exactly. You're giving that all the power 100%. And that's I I try and drill that into my children a lot as well from an early age because I want that to be a subconscious thing for them. So, hey, you're responsible. You know, you did this thing. My I can't remember, my son did it the other day. He goes, Oh, it's not my fault that the the glass broke. I'm like, hang on, who put the glass there? All right, did I did I put the glass there? Is it my fault? Did I put the glass in that location? He's like, no. Okay, did I accidentally knock the glass over? He's like, no, who did? I did. And so then why, how is this not your fault? You need to take responsibility for that glass knocking over. Even if I put it there, whose fault is it? It's still yours because you've done that. But I could then turn around and say, no, that's my fault. The reason that glass broke is I didn't put it in the dishwasher and I left it on the bench. So that means that's my fault now. I'm gonna take responsibility, even though you broke the glass. But that's not to relinquish your responsibility because you're the one that did the action. So you take some responsibility here too. And I think once you start to drill that into your everyday life, everything you do, then yes, great, everything is your fault.

Robby

It becomes second nature.

George

It does. Like I was talking this morning. I had this um uh this situation with a third party, and I'm like, I'm glad I'm going through this sit through this position. Okay, this is actually my fault. All everything that's happening right now, it's my fault because I didn't follow our process and our systems, and as a result, I'm finding myself in this difficult difficult situation. So, what's that mean? A, I'm not giving power to that person, and B, I'm gonna make sure that that doesn't happen next time because I'm learning from this failure in process and system, and I'm gonna do that because I could very easily sit there and go, fuck this guy, he's doing this, he's not doing that, he's not giving me this, he's not acting this way, he's the bad person, he's the bad person, not me. Because it's easy to pass the blame, but it's harder to look within. And when you can look within and take control, you're gonna start to win the game.

Robby

I

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Robby

agree. I concur.

George

You do concur. Well, another episode down. What a life. You know, by the time this airs, we'll be en route.

Robby

Are you trying to do the map?

George

I'm trying to try to do the maths. I think we'll be en route to uh Sydney. And if it's not just, hey team, just make this episode come out on the Monday that we leave for Sydney. So we will be en route to Sydney. We've got our uh Builder Summit event coming up. Very excited about. It's gonna be our biggest tour to date. Lots of people expected, lots of registrations, lots of opportunities for us to help people on their business journey in construction and absolutely dominate the space. It's gonna be a really, really fun trip. And if you haven't registered your ticket yet, look, there is probably still time. I reckon you could jump on the website on the landing page somewhere, just go to any of our socials, websites, wherever you want to go, you'll find the page. And if not, shoot us a DM and we'll shoot it back to you so you can register for your free ticket to the Builder Summit in Sydney, Brisbane, and Melbourne on the 11th in Sydney, 13th in Brisbane, and 18th in Melbourne. You heard it here first. You did indeed. Awesome. Well, thank you very much for joining me, for joining us on um on the Million Dollar Days podcast. You know something I haven't said in a really long time? I hope you have a million dollar day. Why do you reckon you haven't said it in a long time? I just think I've forgotten about it. Just got complacent. And you know what? It's all my fault.

Robby

I blame you. All right, thanks everyone.

George

Thanks, guys.